Re: Scot Finnie's Newsletter questions about TB features
Gee, Scot seems very hung up on a feature I don't understand why I really need. He seems very fixated on the one feature very few may need.I have multiple accounts, forwards etc and never missed what Scot think's is so important. Dave in Phoenix www.libchrist.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Feature wish: Editor improvement
I am a new user of Bat.. It took many years for me to find a better E-mailer than PMMail that I have been using for well over 10 years, originallyback in my OS/2 days. Bat has been discussed on the PMMail discussion list and I know there are other that are now switching to Bat. The only feature I miss from old days, is seeing the text in the big editor window and being able to highlight with mouse the text I want to quote and right click to have JUST that text quoted. With Bat it seems it is all or none and if none have to go to the tiny upper screen and copy and paste with quotes. Not that hard but miss the old way. Leaving all the original text whether before or after is terrible in my view and a total waste. Only small amounts of quoted text should be needed.What is really a mess is on a discussion list in digest mode when some folks just leave all the quoted text, which makes digests huge and very hard to find what you want to read that is new. Dave in Phoenix www.libchrist.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Feature wish: Editor improvement
Actually I think I just solved the problem..learning new ways I can highlight and copy from preview screen and then paste as quotes in reply modegee..didn't realize I could make it so easy..still learning..obviously. It doesn't include who said it but that is minor. But why not stop using the mouse, Because I get hundreds of E-mails/day and am use to just sitting back and using my mouse until I have to start actually typing a reply. I never use keyboard shortcuts...hard to train an old dog new tricks :) Dave in Phoenix -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Feature wish: Editor improvement
Highlight the text, press F4 as I have done here. Ah...I highlight in preview mode and press F4 and get my blank reply window (have it set to now show all the quoted text. But as I found highlighting in preview, I can right click mouse and copy and paste as quote in reply mode... The other problem... I think I have...I have some very long canned replies with many paragraphs that I inport or paste into a message. Even though I have word wrap on, when I paste large paragraphs they are L O N G line I have to scroll to read. Another note said ALTL but that only wraps the paragraph the cursor is on the the entire text which may be many paragraphs. I try select all and AltL and it makes everything 1 huge paragraph..word wraps but eliminates paragraph breaks. Also suggested: You can also dynamically have this done as you type by turning on A; the autoformat feature (Shift-Ctrl-F or Utilitiesmenu/autoformat). When I do that it will take care of the current paragraph, but have to make a change in them all... also as above...makes it hard to have a line between Also suggested and the quoted text since without a paragraph break (2 blank line I assume?) it formats all together as its designed to with autoformat. All these are minor points I have to learn best solution to, but there are MANY other things I very much like about Bat! hmmm.. auto justification does some strange things it looks like with fixed fonts.. Dave in Phoenix experimenting and learning :) -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text
DAC If I understand your question, the answer is to highlite the text and hit F4 I am still confused by this. All I get is a blank reply screen when I highlight text and use F4 using latest 1.60c Bat and WinXP. This is the only feature I really miss (being able to highlight and reply and have only highlighted text as quoted text) Ctrl-F4 doesn't do it either. Dave in Phoenix Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text
Main Menu/Message/Specials/Reply Quoting selected text. What key combination do you show for that? On mine it's F4 and always has been. Nick Yep it shows F4...but all I get is a blank screen with my Signature when I highlight with mouse and then F4. I pasted above from little review window. When I edited my reply template could I have deleted something needed for F4 to work? I have it only showing my signature. Dave in Phoenix Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text
On Thursday, March 28, 2002, 11:54:06 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: Dwight Problem must be in your reply template. OK.. that fixed it Thanks... the only thing I don't like is if you don't highlight it quotes all the text. I seldom use quoted text or just a very small amount via highlighting since I think it is unneeded in most cases. What would be nice is a way to reply and no text is quoted unless highlight some text and do F4. I am just fussy but still like Bat over all others I've tried! Dave in Phoenix Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text
On Friday, March 29, 2002, 7:00:59 AM, Gene Gough wrote: Well, I used shift-F4 to create this reply without quoting. Thanks for everyone who replies I think I've got it! Now works fine for either blank reply or just highlighted quoted via F4. Dave in Phoenix Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pasted Text reflow
OK one more little thing from ex PMMail Customer :) The reflow and wrap options work fine when I am typing a message directly. But if I paste either from clipboard of a file (I often use pasted canned messages) it doesn't reflow but shows up as one very long line you have to horizontal scroll to read. I can ALT L to get it to left justify and reflow, doing a paragraph at a time. If I highlight all the text it all gets combined in one huge paragraph which of course I don't want. I have auto wrap and auto format on and wrap at 72 lines. But doesn't if pasted text. Am I missing something simple...probably... Dave in Phoenix Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Pasted Text reflow
%WRAPPED=%INCLUDE='c:\foo.txt' Low and behold it seems to work :) Thanks Dave in Phoenix Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Pasted Text reflow
On Monday, April 1, 2002, 10:37:45 PM, Anthony Xin Chen wrote: %WRAPPED=%INCLUDE='c:\foo.txt' Ooops I spoke to soon that it works... Worked for just long text in template but not from file. I have: %WRAPPED=%INCLUDE='D:\-upload.net\-SEXWKS\Phoenix Private\A Welcome see attached.txt' %SUBJECT=Phoenix Private Mailing List %ATTACHFILE=D:\-upload.net\-SEXWKS\Phoenix Private\2002 1st Quarter.txt Everything works except the the included file is not wrapped. The text of the include file is included so is finding the file..just not wrapping Dave in Phoenix Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Pasted Text reflow
On Tuesday, April 2, 2002, 1:49:41 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: Does your text file consists of multiple paragraphs? (text separated by empty lines) In that case the wrapped-macro won't work. Yes lots of different paragraphs I wonder how much of an issue it is with different readers. Do most mailers take care of the wrapping or I wonder if I am driving 800 folks on my mailing list crazy and they are being too polite to tell me! Someone using AOL mentioned it but she easily opens message in a text reader which takes care of the wrapping. Dave in Phoenix Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[3]: Mass mailing by macros + limits question
On Tuesday, April 2, 2002, 2:22:42 AM, Marcus Ohlström wrote: In the address book use the mass mailing to individual addresss option with a Template. Must be blind. Where do I find that function? If I understand the question.. Address book...select all (not sure if needed) and then still in address book: FILE / MASS MAILING USING TEMPLATE. That seems to be only way to get individual addressed E-mails not BCC's or CC's. Dave in Phoenix Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: reply-option
Or if you prefer using the mouse highlight the text, hold Shift and click 'Reply' button. Doesn't seem to work at least using WinXP. But the highlight F4 does Best wishes Dave in Phoenix http://www.sexwork.com http://www.sexworktoronto.com http://www.touchangels.com http://www.libchrist.com Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Signatures.
I've been wondering about the tiny print grey signatures also. Using the normal bat viewer for example Nick Andriash's signature and all beyond including the bat links for FAQ etc tiny grey. Best wishes Dave in Phoenix http://www.libchrist.com Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Automate the task
Can we automate the task to send out an e-mail to let known the sender every times it detect a virus?? if can, how?? As someone else pointed out with the current big Klez virus you will be sending the note to the wrong person. Often From addresses are found by the virus in address book or cache file for browswer. I two websites that have over 2000 different visitors a day (not porn) and my address is in lots of cache files just from people browsing the site. Daily I get bounced messages that were supposded sent by me with my return address which bounces to me if to address is wrong (usually from infected computers address book usually outlook). I never sent these messages of course and I have never been infected. Yet, my return address as from and reply to shows up in many virus messages just because I assume the virus got my address from one of my websites which the true unknown infected sender visited...or in people's address book, but it seems to be more website taken than address book. The co-founder of one site (libchrist.com) uses a special E-mail that is only used on the site, not for responses or personal mail. It would not be in anyone's address book. Yet he gets bounces that are showing him as sender with the used on website only address. Sadly this virus cam make folks get upset with the wrong person - who had nothing to do with sending the virus but whose return address is on the infected message. Best wishes Dave in Phoenix http://www.sexwork.com http://www.sexworktoronto.com http://www.touchangels.com http://www.libchrist.com Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Automate the task
Make that Windows Address Book (WAB) instead of address book Good point, I've never used a WAB so I forget most people do..that haven't found TB yet! OK, about the cache file in the browser I didn't know. Do I need to click on the address on the web page in order for Klez to use it, or is it sufficient to just view the page? As I understand it you do not need to click on the address just have a cache file from browsing the page where it is. I have my E-mail on the bottom of hundreds of pages which is why it gets found unfortunately so often by a virus. One of the virus sites had all this info including about how it uses cache files, but I forget which one it was Dave in Phoenix Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text
On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 23:33:41 -0800, Nick Andriash wrote: In that case, don't highlight any text and hit F4. If I do that, the entire text gets quoted (if I have template set up so it will work with F4). Usually I do use an empty reply with only signature since usually I don't feel it is necesarry to quote text especially in personal mail, only usually need on discussion lists. But when I do I can't just highlight that text and F4 unless I change the template each time (if want to avoid everything to be quoted) I guess I am just too use to PMMail where I highlight, reply and only the highlighted text is quoted and if just reply no text is quoted. Dave in Phoenix Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mass mailing by macros + limits question
On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:53:48 +0200, Joern Barthel wrote: I'd like to do a newsletter using The Bat! targeting 2000+ users. I use to have a 2000+ subscribed to E-mail list before a website for newsletters which were huge. But I had to break down the list way down to about 200 to send at a time since as ISP tech support told me I would blow the bcc buffer, The result was E-mails were lost in Cyberspace with no bounce just receivers never received. That was before 1998. More recently I now have a 800 name differenet subcriber Private E-mail list. I started to have same lost in space problem. Bat has the perfect solution. In the address book use the mass mailing to individual addresss option with a Template. My Template simply sets the subject Phoenix Private E-mail List and pastes the current weekly update from a file. I then have it send to outbox. Takes maybe 30 seconds or so (using 2gig Dell with WinXP) and all messages are in outbox. If I send using my ISP (Cox cable) it takes an hour or so one message at a time, typically about 60k in size each. For the last month or so I started using PointCast Server Software. Instead of using your ISP's smtp server it makes your own computer the smtp server. In Bat in transport menue change from ISP's smpt server to just DELL and set up PointCast to receive from Dell. PointCast opens 20 threads at a time multitasking 20 different sends at a time. The negative of this is I get a lot of dns server and end server timeouts (hotmail seems really bad). While the first run maybe takes 10-15 minutes to try and send the 800 E-mails, last night for example it left about 160 unsent due to timeouts etc. I rerun it 4-5 times (depending on how long you set the timeouts to give up) and eventually all but 7 got sent. Of the 7 about 3 were either unknown since since last week account had been closed or the infamous mailbox full error. I delete these each week. The other 4 were just timeouts with no reject reason. I then manually send them regular way via Cox since its smtp server will keep trying for hours or days if just a problem with addressess server. Of these 4 , I think I got rejects for mailbox full or no account on 2 of them sent back the regular way and the other 2 seemed to make it. Or, at least no bounce so far. Both ways using Bat to produce via mass mailing template 800 (actually was 795) separate messages instead of bcc, solved the missing in space problem. The time required to send using ISP as smtp or my computer using Point Cast is about the same since I have to rerun Point Cast 4-5 times to overcome time outs. But I like Point Cast since I have more control and can see what is going on. If you have a slower than cable connection it may take longer. But my upload speed is only about 500kb or so vs about 3mb download. But if someone only has a 28K dialup it will take much longer. Good luck Dave in Phoenix Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re[2]: Mass mailing by macros + limits question
On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:27:20 -0500, DG Raftery Sr. wrote: Take a look at it and I think you will be happier with Mercury/32 than Postcast and at the same price! Thanks for sharing your experience. I will try it. Price certainly is right ! Dave in Phoenix Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
