texascavers Digest 11 Dec 2013 16:40:55 -0000 Issue 1896

2013-12-11 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 11 Dec 2013 16:40:55 - Issue 1896

Topics (messages 23147 through 23152):

Re: [SWR] Jewel Cave
23147 by: Mark Minton

Jewel Cave
23148 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net

Link to NSS Bookstore Holiday Greetings
23149 by: Jacqueline Thomas

CBSP December Project This Weekend
23150 by: Kris Pena

Google Street View related
23151 by: David

Re: 2013 Conservation Activities Needed
23152 by: Geary Schindel

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  Nice article, but the author isn't very good at math:

Austin, 29, and the team, found the first of 2,047 new feet of unexplored
cave passage � over two-thirds of a mile.

2047 feet is less than half a mile!

Mark

On Sun, December 8, 2013 11:45 am, Lee H. Skinner wrote:
 If you have trouble with Dwight's link, try this one:
 http://tinyurl.com/nzbft8c  -Lee

 Jewel Cave

 A rather nice article on Jewel Cave today (Sunday 8 Dec 2013) in the
 Rapid City Journal.

 http://web.mail.comcast.net/service/home/~/jewel%20cave%20article%20-%20rc%20journal%20dec%208%202013.pdf?auth=coloc=en_USid=640314part=2

 DirtDoc

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Most of the readers aren't either -- 

(I wonder if their grammar is as good as mine?) 

DirtDoc 

- Original Message -
From: Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net 
To: s...@caver.net, texascavers@texascavers.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2013 11:03:54 AM 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Re: [SWR] Jewel Cave 

Nice article, but the author isn't very good at math: 
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All,
The flyer from the NSS Bookstore is now on the TSA Homepage: 

http://www.cavetexas.org/ Click on the thumbnail for a larger image. Below the 
thumbnail is a link to the NSS Bookstore.

Butch Fralia very kindly set this up so I wouldn't have to send it out on the 
remailer. Thanks, Butch! Jacqui

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The next Colorado Bends State Park Project is this weekend. There's no
better place to spend a cold Saturday than below ground!

Most cavers show up Friday evening and camp out.  All survey teams will be
organized and sent out of camp by 9:30 a.m. Saturday morning.  Camping is
again available on Saturday evening with the possibility of more caving on
Sunday morning.

If you have your own Garmin GPS, please bring it so that you have an easier
time finding the caves.

For more information check out the project info
sheethttp://www.cavetexas.org/PDF/CBSP/TSA_CBSP_project_info_sheet%202013.pdf
or
the schedule on the TSA calendar http://cavetexas.org/calendar/index.php.

Feel free to contact us if you have any questions.

Kris Peña and Will Quast
TSA-CBSP Project Coordinators
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I am sure this is old news, but I thought I would post it for those in
Texas that don't
have time to follow everything on the web.

You can now drive thru the town of Bustamante ( on the main road only
) up to the entrance of the canyon virtually on the internet, using
Google Maps.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Bustamante,+Nuevo+Leon,+Mexicohl=enie=UTF8ll=26.533251,-100.52516spn=0.050298,0.077162sll=31.168934,-100.076842sspn=12.298661,19.753418oq=Bustamante+Nuet=hhnear=Bustamante,+Nuevo+Le%C3%B3n,+Mexicoz=14layer=ccbll=26.534663,-100.528917panoid=4KXfVF0FB-65ETsPCkZP1wcbp=12,292.12,,1,0.05

On a related note, it will also let you drive through nearly every
road of the border towns, except inside of restricted areas like
Boystown.   ( I haven't heard of any cavers going there in 20 years )

In the fall of 84, I accompanied 5 other inexperienced Aggie cavers to
Bustamante.  All the knowledge amongst us that we had about Mexico was
a crude hand-drawn map in a Texas Caver issue, of the border-town of
Nuevo Laredo. Texas cavers today have access to a wealth of
information on how to plan their road-trip into Mexico, and additional
border-crossings, and better gasoline, than we had.Yet when was
the last organized trip to Grutas del Precipico or Minas Viejas by
cavers from Texas ?

David Locklear
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2013 Conservation Activities Needed

The NSS needs your input. Each year the NSS must file an application
with the Combined Federal Campaign (CFC) in order to qualify to be
listed in the CFC donation database. The hardest part of the
application is to document the nationwide NSS Conservation activities.
Please take just two or three minutes and send Scott Fee (scottfee at
bellsouth dot net) an email that includes the following:

1) State the activity took place
2) Closest City or the County
3) 2013 Date (Prefer month, day and year)
4) Very Brief description.

Example: California, 

[SWR] 6th International Workshop on Ice Caves: Call for Papers

2013-12-11 Thread George Veni
Dear Friends,


The 6th International Workshop on Ice Caves (IWIC-VI) is coming to Idaho Falls, 
Idaho, USA, on 17-22 August 2014 and I'm pleased to announce our Call for 
Papers! This will be the first IWIC outside of Europe and an excellent 
opportunity for North American ice scientists to attend. We welcome papers on 
any topic involving cave ice. Major themes include:

* Cave glaciology and ice dynamics

* Cave meteorology and climatology

* Cryo-mineralogy and cryo-crystallography

* Paleoclimatology and global change

* Chemistry and geochemistry of ice caves

* Ice cave management and technology

* Glacier caves



Please note that there is no separate abstract submission procedure. We 
encourage submission of full manuscripts but will accept extended abstracts for 
publication in the conference proceedings volume. The deadline for submission 
of all manuscripts and extended abstracts is 14 April, 2014.



For more information on the conference, visit 
http://www.iwic-vi.org/index.html. Also, look for the announcement on the 
opening of registration for IWIC-VI, which will to start soon.


IWIC is a series of conferences devoted entirely to ice cave studies, where 
international experts discuss ongoing research efforts and promote global 
cooperation in ice cave science and management. IWIC is a conference of the 
Glacier, Firn, and Ice Caves Commission of the International Union of 
Speleology, and IWIC-VI is being hosted by the National Cave and Karst Research 
Institute of the USA.

On behalf of the IWIC-VI Organizing Committee, we look forward to receiving 
your papers and meeting you in Idaho Falls in August 2014.

Please forward or post this message to anyone who may be interested. Thank you.

George

George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org

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Re: [Texascavers] 6th International Workshop on Ice Caves: Call for Papers

2013-12-11 Thread Julia Germany

 COOL!!

I checked out the Web site and am very impressed by the layout and style and 
ease of use.  Upon reading the fine print, I learned the Web site was created 
and maintained by The Texas Caver editor, Jill Orr.

EXCELLENT JOB, JILL!

As George mentioned, this is the first time this workshop will be held in the 
US, and for good reason. I am sure it will be a long time before it comes back 
to the US.

Take advantage.  There are opportunities for ice caving, and Idaho is beautiful 
in August, when Texas is blazing hot!

Thanks for the heads up George, and great job getting NCKRI as the US sponsor.  
No wonder you never sleep.  You are too busy partnering with other orgs to 
bring us excellent cave information.

julia

 

 

-Original Message-
From: George Veni gv...@nckri.org
To: New Mexico Cavers s...@caver.net; TexasCavers. com 
Texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:59 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] 6th International Workshop on Ice Caves: Call for Papers



Dear Friends,
 
The 6th International Workshop on Ice Caves (IWIC-VI) is coming to Idaho Falls, 
Idaho, USA, on 17-22 August 2014 and I’m pleased to announce our Call for 
Papers! This will be the first IWIC outside of Europe and an excellent 
opportunity for North American ice scientists to attend. We welcome papers on 
any topic involving cave ice. Major themes include:
·Cave glaciology and ice dynamics
·Cave meteorology and climatology
·Cryo-mineralogy and cryo-crystallography
·Paleoclimatology and global change
·Chemistry and geochemistry of ice caves
·Ice cave management and technology
·Glacier caves
 
Please note that there is no separate abstract submission procedure. We 
encourage submission of full manuscripts but will accept extended abstracts for 
publication in the conference proceedings volume. The deadline for submission 
of all manuscripts and extended abstracts is 14 April, 2014.
 
For more information on the conference, visithttp://www.iwic-vi.org/index.html. 
Also, look for the announcement on the opening of registration for IWIC-VI, 
which will to start soon.
 
IWIC is a series of conferences devoted entirely to ice cave studies, where 
international experts discuss ongoing research efforts and promote global 
cooperation in ice cave science and management. IWIC is a conference of the 
Glacier, Firn, and Ice Caves Commission of the International Union of 
Speleology, and IWIC-VI is being hosted by the National Cave and Karst Research 
Institute of the USA.
 
On behalf of the IWIC-VI Organizing Committee, we look forward to receiving 
your papers and meeting you in Idaho Falls in August 2014.
 
Please forward or post this message to anyone who may be interested. Thank you.
 
George


George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org
 




[SWR] Karst geoscience post-doctoral grant

2013-12-11 Thread George Veni
Dear Friends,

Below is a last minute announcement of a karst geoscience post-doctoral grant 
from the Karst Research Institute in Slovenia. Notice the last paragraph. If 
you are interested, you must contact the Institute at the address below by 15 
December 2013. I know a number of people who previously received and greatly 
benefited from these grants. I encourage anyone interested to apply.

Please share or post this message with anyone you think may be interested.

Thank you,

George

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Dear friends and colleagues,

This is a last minute call. Please respond if interested, or distribute it to 
potentially interested candidates.

Zaradi zaščite zasebnosti je prikaz slik v sporočilu onemogočen. Prikaži 
slikehttp://pp.zrc-sazu.si/?_task=mail_action=show_uid=12609_mbox=INBOX#loadimages#loadimages
Karst Research Institute at ZRC SAZU, Postojna, Slovenia 
(http://izrk.zrc-sazu.si/en/predstavitev#v) is searching a candidate for an AXA 
postdoctoral grant. The Institute has been selected as an eligible institution 
by AXA Research Fund. We offer stimulating environment, field sites of 
classical karst, tutorship and related research infrastructure. Post-Doctoral 
project must be related to the topic of Environmental risk (climate change, 
from glacier retreat to sea-level rise; natural hazards, from earth hazards to 
atmospheric and space-weather phenomena; human-driven environmental changes 
such as urban pollution, nanotechnologies or pesticide exposure).

The candidate must comply with the following conditions:
-   The candidate must have defended her/his Ph.D. thesis in sciences 
related to karst studies (geology, hydrology, geomorphology, speleothem 
science, karst biology or microbiology, and similar) before the beginning of 
the Post- Doctoral grant.
-   Less than 5 years since awarding of first Ph.D. (extensions to this 
period may be allowed in case of eligible career breaks which must be properly 
documented).
-   The candidate has to demonstrate excellence in research.

We need to report a name of one candidate to the AXA Research Fund by December 
16th, 2013. The first round of selection is based on the candidate's outline 
proposal that has to be submitted by January 9th, 2014. Pre-selected candidates 
will be then invited to submit a full proposal by March 13th, 2014. The final 
selection will be announced on June 10th, 2014.  Once selected, candidates have 
up to 12 months after the announcement of the campaign results to start their 
Post Doc research (i.e., to administratively register within their Host 
Institution).
http://www.axa-research.org/post-doctoral-fellowships

Interested candidates are invited to contact us and send us a  letter of 
interest, short CV and possible research topic. Please send an e-mail with 
subject AXE-Fellowship  to i...@zrc-sazu.simailto:i...@zrc-sazu.si by 
December 15th, 2013.


George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.orgmailto:gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.orghttp://www.nckri.org

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[Texascavers] Jacob's Well

2013-12-11 Thread David
The Houston Chronicle web-site published an article today that sounded
like it was written by a middle-schooler making their first book report on their
swimming trip to Jacob's Well.

Describing the geology of the cave, it stated, the well was formed as
part of an underground aquaflow system.

The article came across as an interview with a diver, Don Dibble, who
seemed to be familiar with only part of the cave. (  I presume this is
the same person that owns The Dive Shop in San Marcos. )

The article read like an invitation for thrill-seekers to come out and swim
in the cave and free dive down to the gate.Meaning there wasn't
any information about conservation or cavers related to the article.
 There was no mention of where the water comes from, or where it goes,
or the critters that live in the water.

The article was about cave-diving, yet not a single photo or video
attached to the
article was about cave-diving. There was no map or sketch explaining to the
a reader ( who you have to presume is aimed at people unfamiliar with
underwater caves ) as to what the author means by one of the longest
underwater systems in Texas.

The Houston Chronicle has become a laughing stock of journalism and an
embarassment to southeast Texas.   I have given up hope of ever
finding anything credible in its articles..

I have also become very disgruntled with the way the media overall is
behaving.I am officially boycotting Time Magazine.

For what it is worth, the AMCS Activies Newsletter is one of the best
things to read on the planet.   And the NSS News, is also high on my
list of favorite things to read.   I wish
I had more spare time to enjoy them.

David Locklear

Ref:

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/One-of-the-world-s-most-dangerous-dive-sites-is-5055541.php?cmpid=hpfc#photo-5585236

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Re: [Texascavers] Jacob's Well

2013-12-11 Thread dirtdoc



Jacob's Well. 



Ah,yes. To see what is beyond the gate, you should read Jacob's Well by Stephen 
Harrigan . Those cavers that I hired to work on the Texas Natural Areas Survey 
(which helped get Devil's Sinkhole, the Lower Canyons, Mt. Livermore, Devil's 
River, Big Bend Ranch State Park, Enchanted Rock, and other places set aside in 
the Public Domain) will recognize slightly-disguised cavers and their 
colleagues from the70s. Not only is Dwight Deal the heroic (although flawed) 
model for the geologist, you can recognize parts of Ronnie Fieseler, Tom Byrd, 
and Ron Ralph, Gary Moore, and certainly remember the Lady Archaeologist who 
did field work in the nude. 



DirtDoc 


[Texascavers] FW: 2013 Conservation Activities Needed

2013-12-11 Thread Geary Schindel


2013 Conservation Activities Needed

The NSS needs your input. Each year the NSS must file an application
with the Combined Federal Campaign (CFC) in order to qualify to be
listed in the CFC donation database. The hardest part of the
application is to document the nationwide NSS Conservation activities.
Please take just two or three minutes and send Scott Fee (scottfee at
bellsouth dot net) an email that includes the following:

1) State the activity took place
2) Closest City or the County
3) 2013 Date (Prefer month, day and year)
4) Very Brief description.

Example: California, Orange County, May to July 2012: Over 20 members
removed dozens of large trash bags of litter and rusting metal from
 cave, sinkhole, river, stream, or highway.

Ideally, please include how many volunteers and what you did. Any
statistics like number of bags, hours spent, truckloads of debris,
etc. are a welcome addition. That is it! Shouldn't take two minutes
to convey where, when, and what! This will help the NSS Document
caver conservation activities throughout 2012 in the USA!

Established in 1961, the CFC is the largest workplace charity campaign
in the country and the only campaign authorized to solicit and
collect contributions from federal employees in the workplace. Through
this effort, nearly four million federal employees and military
personnel are able to contribute to the organizations of their choice
during the annual charity drive, which runs from September 1 through
December 15. Please distribute this in any caver related forum.



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