date:20180419

Folks,

I use SnagIt from TechSmith for screen capture and videos. It can also 
modify and annotate images which is very helpful for building documentation.

I just upgraded to their latest version 2018 and wanted to let you know it 
can do the following very well that is useful with TiddlyWiki

   - Drag and drop directly from the snagit editor tray to tiddlywiki (PNG 
   files)
   - Capture text out of images (and past into TiddlyWiki) as text (OCR)
   - or move text within the captured image
   - Capture a video, then drag into TiddlyWiki as MP4  from the snagit 
   editor tray to tiddlywiki
   - It also has a wide range of stamps which can annotate or be used on 
   their own to create images / icons to use in TiddlyWiki
   
   

   - and a lot more that was already there.

Regards
Tony




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[tw5] Re: Snagit Users and TiddlyWiki

What would be more exciting is if someone finally had a way to drag and 
drop an image, forming an external link. Storing images inside of TW is 
untenable.

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On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 12:40:15 AM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I use SnagIt from TechSmith for screen capture and videos. It can also 
> modify and annotate images which is very helpful for building documentation.
>
> I just upgraded to their latest version 2018 and wanted to let you know it 
> can do the following very well that is useful with TiddlyWiki
>
>- Drag and drop directly from the snagit editor tray to tiddlywiki 
>(PNG files)
>- Capture text out of images (and past into TiddlyWiki) as text (OCR)
>- or move text within the captured image
>- Capture a video, then drag into TiddlyWiki as MP4  from the snagit 
>editor tray to tiddlywiki
>- It also has a wide range of stamps which can annotate or be used on 
>their own to create images / icons to use in TiddlyWiki
>
>
> 
>- and a lot more that was already there.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> 
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles

2018-04-19 Thread Brady77

Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
>
>1. Can you compare the difficulty of
>   - preparing a new release of TiddlyWiki that deals with tiddlers 
>   (and other building blocks) as objects that can be referenced 
> independently 
>   on the user text-fields? Same functionality as I mentioned above while 
>   talking about Airtable interface.
>
> Are you asking about the ability to refer to a tiddler by a field other 
> than it’s title? 
>

Yes. Let me explain it by workflow. Say I start with a new TiddlyWiki:

1. Create my first tiddler with no title

1a. Hit the plus button

1b. Leave the title field empty

- by empty I mean nothing there - no prefilled title

1c. Type "My first lovely tiddler" into the textarea

1d. Save and close the tiddler

Notes:

- behind the scenes the tiddler gets some system values like an internal 
unique ID, created time-stamp, modified time-stamp, owner ID, last editor 
ID (you name it)

2. Want to see what I have now in my Wiki

2a. Go to right-side panel

2b. Visit the list of recent tiddlers

- there is one row on the list with title "*(empty)*" 

Notes: 

- the word "empty" in parentheses and italic indicates that there is no 
tiddler title filled in

3. Create another tiddler with a link to the first

3a. Leave the title field empty

3b. Go to the textarea and click the link button (or Ctrl-l)

- the modal shows me input field for searching

- below the input field there is a section called "5 recent tiddlers" with 
one row listed as *(empty)*

3d. Choose the row with title *(empty)*

- the textarea has now a clickable link shown as *(empty)*

3e. Type "My second lovely tiddler" on a row below the link 

3f. Save and close the tiddler

4. Revisit the list of recent tiddlers

- there are two rows now

- each row has the same title *(empty)*

5. Now I want to find my first tiddler via advanced search

5a. Click the magnifier icon from the right-side panel

5b. Go to the Standard search tab and type "lovely" there

- I get two rows with title *(empty)*

- oops: what to choose? no way to distinguish between those two tiddlers 
just by title *(empty)*

- have to make some corrections...

 6. Want to change the title of the first tiddler

6a. Select the tiddler at the bottom of the recent tiddlers list

- should be the first one that I added to my Wiki

6b. Open the tiddler for editing and enter "First one" into the title

6e. Save and close the tiddler

 7. Review the link in my second tiddler and change the title as well

7a. Select the only *(empty)* title from the recent tiddlers list

- the link title in the text area has changed already to "First one"

- clicking the link bring me to the tiddler First one - nothing is broken 

7b. Open second tiddler for editing and change the title from nothing to 
"Second"

7c. Save and close the second tiddler

>From the user perspective the "key" field remains the tiddler title. Output 
from important functions like searching are filtering remains the same: the 
tiddler title. But internally (for instance links between tiddlers) the 
system uses the tiddler ID for the URI. Should the interface be more geeky 
while creating links to avoid the link button, there could be an autofill 
function as you start typing [[. 

>
>- fixing broken links and functions (filters, lists, macros etc) on 
>   the fly after the tiddler ID changed
>
> Do you mean by using search and replace?
>

No, Jeremy, I'm referring to the auto-correction processes that must run 
behind the scenes each time I decide to change the tag or tiddler title. 
You said that it is very difficult to parse all the wiki tiddlers correctly 
so that only relevant parts are auto-magically changed to reflect the new 
title. Tags are probably much easier to change than the titles. 

So I wanted to know your expert opinion: What is more difficult? 1) Change 
the system so it works as described by the workflow above or 2) Try to find 
the correct algorithm to auto-magically correct what is broken.

Thanks for your time, Jeremy.

Petr

PS: I'm well aware of all the workarounds that already exists (including 
the uni-link plugin, special themes etc). I just want to know whether a 
system change isn't more robust, user-friendly (avoiding errors and 
confusions, installing special plugins), simpler, consistent and 
straightforward and long-lasting than workarounds.

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[tw5] Re: Snagit Users and TiddlyWiki

The last time I tried using Snag-It, I found it pricey, and kind of 
confusing. I really liked Faststone, and would probably purchase it if I 
was doing frequent documentation. Green-shot works pretty well, but usually 
I get by with the screen-grab feature of IrfanView or even the mozilla 
screenshot tool that comes with FF. For images, anything that's in the 
clipboard can be pasted into TW.

A utility that's really helpful when you need to grab multiple types of 
information without going back and forth is Ditto, a clipboard manager. So, 
if you're on a web page, you can grab an image (with FF screenshot), the 
url, the title of the article,and the text. Then go back and set up your 
tiddler, inserting the various bits (title, URL field, etc.) without having 
to go back and forth.  Linux has several clipboard managers in its 
distribution, though none quite as versatile as Ditto. I imagine the world 
of Mac has such things too.

-- Mark

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 3:27:02 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> In defence of my original post
>
> if you use a single file wiki to document a process and treat it as a 
> document then including images and videos is fine.
>
> Link or iframe to YouTube for larger videos is sensible anyway.
>
> I know we expect TiddlyWiki to do everything, but we cant make it break 
> the rules that apply everywhere else such as web developers are always 
> forced to reduce page size and load times so why should we be the exception?
>
> Regards
> Tony
>  
>
> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 5:40:15 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I use SnagIt from TechSmith for screen capture and videos. It can also 
>> modify and annotate images which is very helpful for building documentation.
>>
>> I just upgraded to their latest version 2018 and wanted to let you know 
>> it can do the following very well that is useful with TiddlyWiki
>>
>>- Drag and drop directly from the snagit editor tray to tiddlywiki 
>>(PNG files)
>>- Capture text out of images (and past into TiddlyWiki) as text (OCR)
>>- or move text within the captured image
>>- Capture a video, then drag into TiddlyWiki as MP4  from the snagit 
>>editor tray to tiddlywiki
>>- It also has a wide range of stamps which can annotate or be used on 
>>their own to create images / icons to use in TiddlyWiki
>>
>>
>> 
>>- and a lot more that was already there.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: how's tiddlyclip?

Sorry!! The *second* I pressed send, I realized the download link for the 
xpi file is a github link. I checked the repo and there it is! 

Disregard my previous message! (I wont delete it in case others make the 
same mistake and come across it while searching.)

Best,
Diego

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 11:12:01 AM UTC-5, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I want to start using TiddlyClip, but my main browser these days is 
> Chrome. Unless I've missed something, the tiddlyclip site only mentions an 
> xpi (firefox) file. How do I install in chrome?
>
> Thanks,
> Diego
>
> On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 10:02:03 AM UTC-5, BJ wrote:
>>
>> it does work with chrome - at least with version 54 on linux (i.e. what I 
>> use)
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> BJ
>>
>> On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 3:34:46 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>>>
>>> @BJ - Is there any plan to make a TC that works in Chrome? Would be 
>>> fantastic.
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles

2018-04-19 Thread Jeremy Ruston

Hi Brady

> Yes. Let me explain it by workflow. Say I start with a new TiddlyWiki:

OK, you’re describing what I think of as the “GUID approach”. It’s a nice 
pattern, and definitely resonates with a lot of users. I don’t see it as 
requiring a major change to the TW core design, though: it’s predominantly high 
level UI entities that would need to change (eg the edit template). Personally, 
I’m not a huge fan because of the unreadability of link targets, but I’d like 
TW5 to support it for those that want it.
>> fixing broken links and functions (filters, lists, macros etc) on the fly 
>> after the tiddler ID changed
> Do you mean by using search and replace?
> 
> No, Jeremy, I'm referring to the auto-correction processes that must run 
> behind the scenes each time I decide to change the tag or tiddler title. You 
> said that it is very difficult to parse all the wiki tiddlers correctly so 
> that only relevant parts are auto-magically changed to reflect the new title.

What I was driving at was that a naive search-and-replace algorithm would be 
insufficient in some situations. A syntax-aware search-and-replace mechanism 
isn’t too tricky: there’s already syntax-aware search in the form of the 
feature that extracts outgoing links from a tiddler. It does so by searching 
the tree resulting from parsing the text, rather than searching the text 
directly. Adding the replace part isn’t too tricky; in fact, it would probably 
be one of those things where the complexity isn’t in the mechanism but rather 
the user interface needed to drive it.

> Tags are probably much easier to change than the titles. 

Yes indeed, and TW already offers the ability to relink tags when renaming a 
tiddler.

> So I wanted to know your expert opinion: What is more difficult? 1) Change 
> the system so it works as described by the workflow above or 2) Try to find 
> the correct algorithm to auto-magically correct what is broken.

This feels like a false dichotomy. “Changing the system” implies that it 
wouldn’t work in the way that it does currently, which would be a problem from 
a backwards compatibility perspective. Perhaps the option is better expressed 
as “augment the system so it can work as described above”.

Anyhow, these aren’t mutually exclusive options. And of course there are also 
other important attributes beyond difficulty of implementation: simplicity, 
universality, risk, robustness, security.

But if you want to focus on implementation difficulty, option (a) touches many 
components of the system while (b) is a self-contained subsystem with well 
defined inputs and outputs. My experience suggests that the complexity of a 
software task depends primarily on the number of entities involved, and so I 
would be inclined to think of option (b) as being less difficult.

> Thanks for your time, Jeremy.

No problem, thank you for the thoughtful and interesting questions. These 
discussions are often illuminating.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

> PS: I'm well aware of all the workarounds that already exists (including the 
> uni-link plugin, special themes etc). I just want to know whether a system 
> change isn't more robust, user-friendly (avoiding errors and confusions, 
> installing special plugins), simpler, consistent and straightforward and 
> long-lasting than workarounds.



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[tw5] Slideshow Macro

2018-04-19 Thread jtaylorc1997

Hello everyone, 

I am one of the students in Steve Schnider's class that utilizes 
TiddlyWiki. For my final project, I am using a macro that allows me to 
present my project as a slideshow. However, when I click to view it as a 
slideshow, *all of my tiddlers are sorted correctly*, but the "show" starts 
at the bottom of my slides. I was wondering if anyone could give me some 
advice as to how to fix this? After all, I would like to begin my 
presentation, from the beginning. Any help is appreciated! Please and thank 
you!

-Jill


Macro: 
http://sunypoly-christj3-secondlastfinalproject.tiddlyspot.com/#PunchShow%20Macro

Home/View as 
slideshow: http://sunypoly-christj3-secondlastfinalproject.tiddlyspot.com/#

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[tw5] Re: how's tiddlyclip?

Hey all,

I want to start using TiddlyClip, but my main browser these days is Chrome. 
Unless I've missed something, the tiddlyclip site only mentions an xpi 
(firefox) file. How do I install in chrome?

Thanks,
Diego

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 10:02:03 AM UTC-5, BJ wrote:
>
> it does work with chrome - at least with version 54 on linux (i.e. what I 
> use)
>
> cheers
>
> BJ
>
> On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 3:34:46 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>>
>> @BJ - Is there any plan to make a TC that works in Chrome? Would be 
>> fantastic.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Slideshow Macro

Hey Jill,

There are a couple ways to address this. The quickest one I can think of is 
to have two lists separated with the first[] and butfirst[] filter 
operators. The one with first[] actually *navigates* to, while the one with 
butfirst uses navigateSuppressNavigation 

Diego

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 9:46:34 AM UTC-5, jtaylo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, 
>
> I am one of the students in Steve Schnider's class that utilizes 
> TiddlyWiki. For my final project, I am using a macro that allows me to 
> present my project as a slideshow. However, when I click to view it as a 
> slideshow, *all of my tiddlers are sorted correctly*, but the "show" 
> starts at the bottom of my slides. I was wondering if anyone could give me 
> some advice as to how to fix this? After all, I would like to begin my 
> presentation, from the beginning. Any help is appreciated! Please and thank 
> you!
>
> -Jill
>
>
> Macro: 
> http://sunypoly-christj3-secondlastfinalproject.tiddlyspot.com/#PunchShow%20Macro
>
> Home/View as slideshow: 
> http://sunypoly-christj3-secondlastfinalproject.tiddlyspot.com/#
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Snagit Users and TiddlyWiki

Ciao Jeremy

IMO I think TiddlyDesktop is currently underrated. I think it is a very 
fine piece of work with huge flexibility.

I hope we can get that flex stretched and tried and and tested and 
documented more. I'm incredibly impressed with its Backstage potential.

Josiah

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Re: [tw5] Re: Snagit Users and TiddlyWiki

2018-04-19 Thread Jeremy Ruston

Hi Mark

> On 19 Apr 2018, at 14:56, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>  wrote:
> 
> What would be more exciting is if someone finally had a way to drag and drop 
> an image, forming an external link. Storing images inside of TW is untenable.

That’s never going to be possible with regular browsers. But it is a feature 
offered by TiddlyDesktop (you’ll also need the TW plugin "External attachment 
support for TiddlyDesktop et al.” aka 
$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/external-attachments).

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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[tw5] Re: March Of The Androids -- Seeking Info On Your Usage

Ciao Tony

TonyM wrote:

>
>- NoteSelf is a Nice and quick method to get TiddlyWiki on a phone, 
>   including by visiting it hosted on the internet, it has its own app 
> icon 
>   which works well and stops opening multiple instances.
>   - You cant easily update or access noteself wikis after you first 
>   install it, just add data as you go.
>   - I do not use an external database at this point, however once I 
>   do I should be able to influence the same wiki from my desktop
>
> Right. That underlines what JD wrote too. Whatever the issues with getting 
Noteself running, IMO it has proved (either just in browser or 
browser+remote db) stable and reliable. I think its an appealing approach 
that works much the same on most everything. 

Node JS A node JS Install through Termux 

>
>- Turmux and node JS is a pain to start, and despite buying the app to 
>   autostart I have not yet got it working.
>
> Right. I heard about Termux. I just haven't yet seen an explanation of HOW 
to set it up for TW that I understand.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: how's tiddlyclip?

It is complicated! What with multiple levels of configuration, different 
methods of field notation, and JSON texts that need to be typed as a jumble 
of text. And I don't think there's a complete explanation for how to use 
larger data (CDATA). This is why once I have something set up, I keep using 
it even when it's not appropriate (like crafts projects are tagged 
"German").  But it's the only game in town, and once it works it's great.

One thing, but if you use it with the default save mechanism, it undocks 
every time you save. So you pretty much have to find some other mechanism 
if you want to do any clipping.

-- Mark

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 10:22:19 AM UTC-7, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> I agree, 
>
> I spent 15 minutes trying to quickly get it customized and wasn't able to, 
> so I put it back on "Ill understand it later". 
>
> This is not meant as an insult! Just that I personally couldn't get it 
> *quickly* up and running, which might be a target for future improvement! 
>
> Best,
> Diego
>
> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 11:21:15 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> TiddlyClip is a great piece of kit IMO. Perhaps not as well documented as 
>> would be ideal. I think if it got some more vocal users with programming 
>> skills it might get even better.
>>
>> My 2 cents
>> Josiah
>>
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[tw5] Re: Snagit Users and TiddlyWiki

I tried it. I works well as a kinda "total solution" for the recording / 
image saving. But I'm not sure its that much better than, in the end, than, 
Windows Snip + a video recording tool.

TonyM wrote:
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> I use SnagIt from TechSmith for screen capture and videos. It can also 
> modify and annotate images which is very helpful for building documentation.
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[tw5] Re: Slideshow Macro

2018-04-19 Thread Birthe C

Hi Jill,

You have the story view set to top. That did not work for me so I tried 
story view=classic.


Birthe


torsdag den 19. april 2018 kl. 16.46.34 UTC+2 skrev jtaylo...@gmail.com:
>
> Hello everyone, 
>
> I am one of the students in Steve Schnider's class that utilizes 
> TiddlyWiki. For my final project, I am using a macro that allows me to 
> present my project as a slideshow. However, when I click to view it as a 
> slideshow, *all of my tiddlers are sorted correctly*, but the "show" 
> starts at the bottom of my slides. I was wondering if anyone could give me 
> some advice as to how to fix this? After all, I would like to begin my 
> presentation, from the beginning. Any help is appreciated! Please and thank 
> you!
>
> -Jill
>
>
> Macro: 
> http://sunypoly-christj3-secondlastfinalproject.tiddlyspot.com/#PunchShow%20Macro
>
> Home/View as slideshow: 
> http://sunypoly-christj3-secondlastfinalproject.tiddlyspot.com/#
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[tw5] Re: how's tiddlyclip?

TiddlyClip is a great piece of kit IMO. Perhaps not as well documented as 
would be ideal. I think if it got some more vocal users with programming 
skills it might get even better.

My 2 cents
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: how's tiddlyclip?

I agree, 

I spent 15 minutes trying to quickly get it customized and wasn't able to, 
so I put it back on "Ill understand it later". 

This is not meant as an insult! Just that I personally couldn't get it 
*quickly* up and running, which might be a target for future improvement! 

Best,
Diego

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 11:21:15 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
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> TiddlyClip is a great piece of kit IMO. Perhaps not as well documented as 
> would be ideal. I think if it got some more vocal users with programming 
> skills it might get even better.
>
> My 2 cents
> Josiah
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[tw5] Re: March Of The Androids -- Seeking Info On Your Usage

Ciao JD

Great stuff. Useful. I was particularly taken with your detailed comments 
on Noteself. I will notifying Danielo, the author, about them.

This thread is interesting, giving quite a clear picture of how folk are 
dealing with Android in real life.

On Chrome saving, is BJ's 
https://github.com/buggyj/savetiddlers#getting-started-chrome any use?

Josiah

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[tw5] Re: March Of The Androids -- Seeking Info On Your Usage

Ciao PMario

Good news. TiddlyWiki is looking more "Androidable" than I thought it was 
...

Josiah

Mark S. asked:
>
> ... I'm not sure that the latest versions of FF can use any of the save 
>> extensions --  
>>
>  

> PMario responded:
> Firefox, TiddlyWiki with file-backups 
>  plugin was 
> the very first thing I tested on my shiny new device, that I got on 
> Tuesday. *It works just fine \o/* ... 
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[tw5] Re: How to add a tag to a tiddler via a SelectWidget?

2018-04-19 Thread LDL

Thank you Matthew,
that's a nice solution as well!

Il giorno martedì 17 aprile 2018 16:58:36 UTC+2, Matthew Lauber ha scritto:
>
> Something you can consider is using the multiple flag on your select ala
>
> <$select multiple field='tags'>
> <$list filter='[tag[prj]]'>
> <$view field='title'/>
> 
> 
>
> This will render as a multiple select with the already present tags 
> highlighted.  You can add or remove tags by using the standard ctrl-click 
> to select an additional item.  
>
> On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 7:28:49 AM UTC-4, LDL wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>> I would like to add a tag to the current tiddler via a SelectWidget that 
>> offers a filtered list of tags/tiddlers.
>>
>> The filter selects all the tiddlers tagged with "prj" and I would like 
>> the current tiddler to be tagged with the selected item (one of the 
>> tiddlers tagged with "prj")
>>
>> The solution I've come up so far is the following:
>>
>> <$select  field='tags'>
>> <$list filter='[tag[prj]]'>
>> <$view field='title'/>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> My current problem with this solutions is that all the tags are removed 
>> and substituted with the one derived from the SelectWidget. I would like, 
>> instead, to retain all the existing tag and just add the selection from the 
>> SelectWidget to the tags.
>>
>> Any idea on how to achieve the desired behavior?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lorenzo
>>
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[tw5] Re: March Of The Androids -- Seeking Info On Your Usage

PMario, tx.

PMario wrote:
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>
> Your links show a paywall, once you visit the site the second time. .. 
> Here's some free *phone based *data, which should do as well
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[tw5] Re: March Of The Androids -- Seeking Info On Your Usage

Ste Wilson wrote:
>
> Tiddlyspot is great in that it mostly automatically saves when finishing 
> editing a tiddler and the backup function is great. 


JD commented on this too. I do think having a "reliable cloud thing" *beyond 
the device* is a major thing.
 

> Dragging into tiddlywiki from another tab isn't possible and downloading a 
> plugin to then import is a hassle and sometimes made more problamatic by 
> the vaguries of mobile browser not downloading but opening at a text file 
> in a new tab... 


 Right. It can get messy and UNCLEAR sometimes in some ways. That was my 
impression too.

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Re: [tw5] D3.js for knowledge mapping: how to automatize any tiddler update on the graph ?

2018-04-19 Thread Silverfox

@Jan

Your select trick has been included now, thank you (see 
update http://archipel.tiddlyspot.com)

But I'm still looking for some help to update automatically the graph 
(without having to press the update button) when add, remove or modify a 
tiddler
the current process is described in the archipel page

Nicolas


On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 3:05:44 PM UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Silverfox, I have seen you have not included the tiny select trick to 
> archpelago yet.
> It was of course meant to be integrated, if the questionmark is about 
> whether this is allowed. 
> Jan
>
>
>
> Am 13.04.2018 um 07:07 schrieb Silverfox:
>
> @Jan
>
> Thank you it's great, I will integrate it? No  click after changing the 
> selector is great 
> but it does not solves what I wanted (sorry if I was not clear)
>
> All,
>
> If a add or remove a tiddler, or if I update the colored status of one 
> tiddler I would like the graph to be immediately updated without having to 
> click on the button...
> in other words how to automatize the generation of csv file from a 
> Wikitext macro ?
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Re: [tw5] D3.js for knowledge mapping: how to automatize any tiddler update on the graph ?

This conversation reminds me of Evan Blaster's (of formula plugin fame) 
work on trying to make TW refresh just important parts automatically in the 
backend. Perhaps someone else more familar with that work can comment?

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 2:35:18 PM UTC-5, Silverfox wrote:
>
> @Jan
>
> Your select trick has been included now, thank you (see update 
> http://archipel.tiddlyspot.com)
>
> But I'm still looking for some help to update automatically the graph 
> (without having to press the update button) when add, remove or modify a 
> tiddler
> the current process is described in the archipel page
>
> Nicolas
>
>
> On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 3:05:44 PM UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>>
>> Hi Silverfox, I have seen you have not included the tiny select trick to 
>> archpelago yet.
>> It was of course meant to be integrated, if the questionmark is about 
>> whether this is allowed. 
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 13.04.2018 um 07:07 schrieb Silverfox:
>>
>> @Jan
>>
>> Thank you it's great, I will integrate it? No  click after changing the 
>> selector is great 
>> but it does not solves what I wanted (sorry if I was not clear)
>>
>> All,
>>
>> If a add or remove a tiddler, or if I update the colored status of one 
>> tiddler I would like the graph to be immediately updated without having to 
>> click on the button...
>> in other words how to automatize the generation of csv file from a 
>> Wikitext macro ?
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: PHP Post mechanism for Feedback, Tasks and cooperation

2018-04-19 Thread Jan

Hi Quaraman,
thanks, I tried out the code, (http://szenio.de/Kommentare/#Version%20Q)
Your approach is to rebuild the .tid-file.
I would like to extract it by means of the template because I also want
to have various fields in different usecases (geo-tagging, image und
video-urls etc)
Therefore I would like to use the template which exports tid-files
{{$(storyTiddler)$||$:/core/templates/tid-tiddler}} .

Do you have any ideas for preventing the Wiki from closing when pressing
submit and showing the message in a modal instead.

Jan

Am 18.04.2018 um 12:18 schrieb xanatoswet...@gmail.com:

Hi Jan,

the best I would do is to separate the fields in different questions
to the user:

title:value=<>>

Created:
Info1 wanted from user:
Body:

2. The post.php

//this use a heredoc for php as explained here:
http://php.net/manual/en/language.types.string.php

$content= <<$postfile = fopen('post/'.$title.'.tid', "w") or die("Unable to open
file!");

fwrite($postfile, $content);
fclose($postfile);
?>

That should do the trick.

the time and day of the user send data can also be calculated, in php
/ tiddlywiki

php: look at http://php.net/manual/en/function.date.php
tiddlywiki look at: https://tiddlywiki.com/#now%20Macro

QuaraMan

Am Mittwoch, 18. April 2018 01:42:38 UTC+2 schrieb Jan:

Hello and thanks Quaraman,
how can I get the missing characters (is it /n) in to the file if
the form?
I guess it is the wikifikation that causes the trouble but without
nothing gets inserted at all...

Jan

Am 18.04.2018 um 00:38 schrieb xanato...@gmail.com:

Hello Jan,

the .tid file format is as follows (between the - lines):

field1: value of field1
field2: value of field2

content of tiddler
-

so your file is only one line long.
the import process can also not finish, because it sees a tiddler
with one field.

hope that helps.
quaraman

Am Dienstag, 17. April 2018 23:57:20 UTC+2 schrieb Jan:

Hello,
I have been seeking for a method to allow students to post
contributions
in the form that I easily can import as a Tiddler.
Now finally I built a very basic mechanism to post a Tiddler
to a
directory called post as a tid.

It consists of two parts

1. The Upload-button (which is trancluded by a viewTemplate
\define ExportTid()
{{$(storyTiddler)$||$:/core/templates/tid-tiddler}}

<$wikify name="ExTid" text=<> >

title:>>
tiddler:> >

2. The post.php

So far it generates a Tid which looks like exactly like the
an exported
.Tid-file but appear to empty when importing it to TW.
And it closes the wiki.

So there is still a quite bunch of Questions to be solved:

1. What is wrong with my .tid file?
2. How do I avoid the TW form being closed when calling the php?
3. Is there a way to trigger a TW-action with the same click
that
submits the form?
4. (a php-question)How can I avoid beeing pwned by someone
inducing a
php through this mechanism.
I hope you can help me solving these things...

Jan

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[tw5] Re: March Of The Androids -- Seeking Info On Your Usage

2018-04-19 Thread Ste Wilson

Termux is just an app. Gives you a Linux console. Just follow nodejs 
instructions for Linux on tiddlywiki. Job done! 

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles

Brady77,

Forgive my delayed response, although you may see additional contributions 
in this thread.. Thanks for explaining what you are trying to do. I 
understand what you are trying to do because networking in one of my areas 
since I have being in IT for some time. I recently did some training on 
BigData which would be similar to your learning curve. 

I adopted TiddlyWiki Classic many years ago and still maintain a knowledge 
base in it but are gradually moving features and functionality into TW5.

I am confident it is only if you use [[embedded links]] or 
{{transclusions}} that you are likely to come across this problem because 
you can rename titles with no loss. 

A Common technique I use is the new here so lets say you have a "Security" 
subject, go to the Security tiddler and go new here to add security items, 
or tag them with Security. By always having a tag of the "parent" tiddler 
at a minimum you will always be able to list items so tagged. Renaming them 
changes nothing, except if they are listed in alphabetical order. You can 
also use the list field and a drag-able list such as a dragable table of 
Contents. Most of the time I access technical info I first search "titles" 
and "Text" then open even a related tiddler, then use the tags to refine 
the tiddlers I am looking at. Eg; I may search for Static IP Address, find 
a tiddler that mentions their use and is tagged security, open the Security 
tag/tiddler and review that list to find "Using Static Routes" (for 
Security).

Now if you feel a title is no longer valid copy the old title into the text 
so if you searched for it again you would find it, then modify the title.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, 18 April 2018 23:07:56 UTC+10, Brady77 wrote:
>
> @PMario: 
>
> I spent some time with the uni-link plugin to see how it works for me. 
> First I have to say that it is very close to be a good workaround for 
> "broken links" problem. I have a couple of questions. 
>
>1. In the advanced search
>   - Can I use caption / subtitle values in the standard search tab?
>   - Is it possible to display the results from the filter as a list 
>   of captions / subtitles?
>2. I tried your "stant-01" theme as well. 
>   - Is possible in the edit mode to show the tiddler title as a field 
>   at the bottom and hide it at the top?
>
> @ Mark.S
> Point 2 is probably close to what you have mentioned earlier as well.
>
> @ TonyM
> Thanks for offering your help as well. I'm building my personal knowledge 
> base to so I can be more effective at my job. I work as an network engineer 
> and I'm dealing with quite complex information. Partly I have to deeply 
> understand some networking topics, partly to remember some workflows 
> (tutorials, how-tos, guides etc.). This knowledge changes quite often as 
> the technology evolves and so I need my tiddlers to reflect those changes 
> as well. This is especially true while studying something new: at the 
> beginning I decide for a name of tiddler and later I realize that this name 
> is completely wrong (just becase I knew almost nothing about the topic at 
> the beginning). To put it simple: I need some flexibility to only at 
> modifying the text field, but also by naming the tiddlers. I can certainly 
> live with the uni-link plugin regarding the "broken-links" problem. But 
> there are some important functions that lack the support for captions / 
> subtitles (see my questions at the beginning). So we can discuss it further.
>
> @Jeremy Ruston
> Hi Jeremy! 
>
>1. Sorry I didn't get what you proposed (as well as @Miroslav Kalous). 
>What problem does it solve? Maybe some example will help. Thanks.
>2. Can you compare the difficulty of
>   - preparing a new release of TiddlyWiki that deals with tiddlers 
>   (and other building blocks) as objects that can be referenced 
> independently 
>   on the user text-fields? Same functionality as I mentioned above while 
>   talking about Airtable interface.
>   - fixing broken links and functions (filters, lists, macros etc) on 
>   the fly after the tiddler ID changed
>3. Could you explain in more detail what is the difference between 
>changing tiddler title and tag name? What if I use a tiddler as a tag?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Petr
>
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[tw5] Re: Snagit Users and TiddlyWiki

Folks,

In defence of my original post

if you use a single file wiki to document a process and treat it as a 
document then including images and videos is fine.

Link or iframe to YouTube for larger videos is sensible anyway.

I know we expect TiddlyWiki to do everything, but we cant make it break the 
rules that apply everywhere else such as web developers are always forced 
to reduce page size and load times so why should we be the exception?

Regards
Tony
 

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 5:40:15 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I use SnagIt from TechSmith for screen capture and videos. It can also 
> modify and annotate images which is very helpful for building documentation.
>
> I just upgraded to their latest version 2018 and wanted to let you know it 
> can do the following very well that is useful with TiddlyWiki
>
>- Drag and drop directly from the snagit editor tray to tiddlywiki 
>(PNG files)
>- Capture text out of images (and past into TiddlyWiki) as text (OCR)
>- or move text within the captured image
>- Capture a video, then drag into TiddlyWiki as MP4  from the snagit 
>editor tray to tiddlywiki
>- It also has a wide range of stamps which can annotate or be used on 
>their own to create images / icons to use in TiddlyWiki
>
>
> 
>- and a lot more that was already there.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> 
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles



> On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 8:10:01 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>> IF the auto update of "list and tag fields" that happens when changing 
>> tiddler titles could be made to include other designated fields, (e.g. 
>> matching link-*) then the fields would be updated automatically whenever a 
>> corresponding title was changed.  
>>
>
Exactly that, it would be a very modest extension of the existing relinking 
> code.
>
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/wiki-bulkops.js
>

Here's my version of bulkops. It borrows the option settings from "tags" 
for now.

-- Mark

/*\
title: $:/core/modules/wiki-bulkops.js
type: application/javascript
module-type: wikimethod

MAS notes: Attempt to implement auto-rename of link fields (e.g. link1-#). 
Changes marked as MAS


Bulk tiddler operations such as rename.

\*/
(function(){

/*jslint node: true, browser: true */
/*global $tw: false */
"use strict";

/*
Rename a tiddler, and relink any tags or lists that reference it.
*/
function renameTiddler(fromTitle,toTitle,options) {
fromTitle = (fromTitle || "").trim();
toTitle = (toTitle || "").trim();
options = options || {};
if(fromTitle && toTitle && fromTitle !== toTitle) {
// Rename the tiddler itself
var oldTiddler = this.getTiddler(fromTitle),
newTiddler = new $tw.Tiddler(oldTiddler,{title: toTitle},this.
getModificationFields());
newTiddler = $tw.hooks.invokeHook("th-renaming-tiddler",newTiddler,
oldTiddler);
this.addTiddler(newTiddler);
this.deleteTiddler(fromTitle);
// Rename any tags or lists that reference it
this.relinkTiddler(fromTitle,toTitle,options)
}
}

/*
Relink any tags or lists that reference a given tiddler
*/
function relinkTiddler(fromTitle,toTitle,options) {
var self = this;
fromTitle = (fromTitle || "").trim();
toTitle = (toTitle || "").trim();
options = options || {};
options.dontRenameLinkFields = options.dontRenameInTags ; // MAS -- 
until actual option is set up somewhere
if(fromTitle && toTitle && fromTitle !== toTitle) {
this.each(function(tiddler,title) {
var type = tiddler.fields.type || "";
// Don't touch plugins or JavaScript modules
// MAS adding 'fieldsWithLinks' for capturing fields that match 
pattern link-#
// MAS adding 'changedFieldLinks' which will be filled new 
link-# contents if reference link changes
if(!tiddler.fields["plugin-type"] && type !== 
"application/javascript") {
var tags = (tiddler.fields.tags || []).slice(0),
list = (tiddler.fields.list || []).slice(0),
fieldsWithLinks = findlinks(tiddler.fields,/link-/),
changedFieldLinks = {} ,
isModified = false;
if(!options.dontRenameInTags) {
// Rename tags
$tw.utils.each(tags,function (title,index) {
if(title === fromTitle) {
console.log("Renaming tag '" + tags[index] + "' to '" + toTitle + "' of 
tiddler '" + tiddler.fields.title + "'");
tags[index] = toTitle;
isModified = true;
}
});
}
 if(!options.dontRenameInLists) {
// Rename lists
$tw.utils.each(list,function (title,index) {
if(title === fromTitle) {
console.log("Renaming list item '" + list[index] + "' to '" + toTitle + "' 
of tiddler '" + tiddler.fields.title + "'");
list[index] = toTitle;
isModified = true;
}
});
}


if(!options.dontRenameLinkFields) { // MAS
// Rename link fields
var linkTitle ;
$tw.utils.each(fieldsWithLinks,function (linkset,index) 
{
linkTitle = (linkset.title || "").trim() ; 
if(linkTitle == fromTitle) {
console.log("DEBUG Renaming link item of field " 
+ linkset.field + " from '" + linkset.title +"' to '" + toTitle + "' of 
tiddler '" + tiddler.fields.title + "'");
changedFieldLinks[linkset.field] = toTitle;
isModified = true;
}
});
}

if(isModified) {
var newTiddler = new $tw.Tiddler(tiddler,
changedFieldLinks,{tags:tags, list: list},self.getModificationFields())
newTiddler = $tw.hooks.invokeHook("th-relinking-tiddler"
,newTiddler,tiddler);
self.addTiddler(newTiddler);
}
}
});
}
};


var findlinks = function(obj, filter) {
  var key, keys = [];
console.log("Object

[tw5] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin

Mario,

I just wanted to bump my question to your attention and ask another!

*First*
Can I ask do you see any reason not to install uni-link in every wiki I 
use? Is there anywhere this could trip us up, or is it basically invisible 
until used?

*Second*

In this discussion there is talk of a GUID
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/tiddlywiki/Y1V7oyBLpSs

I think it would be quite easy to extend uni-link to provide references to 
GUID's effectivly a GUID will be an Alias to a tiddler with a created date 
(uniquified)

All we need then is a GUID based on the Created date/time and miliseconds 
decremented to be unique.

I am happy to go into the details of this elsewhere.

Regards
TGony


On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 5:13:24 AM UTC+11, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Folks, 
>
> I did just push the latest version of the uni-link plugin.  There is a lot 
> of new stuff added including a new Intro-Video 
> . 
>
> V 0.2.0 ... 2017.12.15
>
>- added: [[alias|?]] link syntax
>   - using aka-makros for tiddler alias handling
>- added: Alias backlinks
>   - open the tiddler (i)nfo area: References
>- added filter operators:
>   - is[alias] ... extends the core is operator see: 
>   https://tiddlywiki.com/#is Operator
>   - all[aliases] ... extends the core all operator see: 
>   https://tiddlywiki.com/#all Operator
>- added: Right-Sidebar: More tab: "Aliases"
>   - Sorted by Alias
>   - Sorted by Tiddler Title
>- added: uni-link $:/ControlPanel setting
>- added: different colors for title, caption, subtitle and alias links
>
>
> Have fun!
>
> mario
>
> *PS - If you like it: Support it  :) *
>

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[tw5] Re: D3.js for knowledge mapping: how to automatize any tiddler update on the graph ?

2018-04-19 Thread David Gifford

nice! just added to the toolmap 
https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM in the data visualization 
section

Dave

On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 2:35:50 PM UTC-5, Silverfox wrote:
>
> Hello, 
>
> You'll find here http://archipel.tiddlyspot.com, a new proof of concept 
> of D3 plugin(V5) for TiddlyWiki (there are still some bugs and a lot to do 
> before having a reliable plug-in)
>
> As you can see, my target is to display a dynamic visualization of the TW 
> table of content, and to associate a color code to each tiddler depending 
> on the knowledge maturity (color of a tag)
>
> The mechanism is the following:
> * a TW macro generates a a csv interpreted text in a tiddler (kTree macro)
> * another macro, activated by a button, wikifies it to have pure csv text 
> tiddler (KMapRoot.csv)
> * a javaScript macro uses D3 plugin and the previous csv to generate the 
> graph
>
> My question is : 
>
> Is there a way to *avoid clicking the button* ? I wish I could have an 
> automatic update of the graph as soon as any tiddler is updated...
>
> Thank you for your help, 
>
> Do not hesitate to share your comment on this POC in general
>
> Nicolas 
>

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[tw5] Re: how's tiddlyclip?

2018-04-19 Thread BJ

Hi Diego,
there is a description of how to load TC in chrome here:

http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/#Upgrade%20Instructions

The latest version of the browser plugin is here (it is a prerelease, but 
it is very similar to what with be the next full release):

https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip/releases

I have not registered to get the plugin on the chrome store yet, so you 
will have to use it is a developer mode.

All the best BJ

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 7:22:19 PM UTC+2, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> I agree, 
>
> I spent 15 minutes trying to quickly get it customized and wasn't able to, 
> so I put it back on "Ill understand it later". 
>
> This is not meant as an insult! Just that I personally couldn't get it 
> *quickly* up and running, which might be a target for future improvement! 
>
> Best,
> Diego
>
> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 11:21:15 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> TiddlyClip is a great piece of kit IMO. Perhaps not as well documented as 
>> would be ideal. I think if it got some more vocal users with programming 
>> skills it might get even better.
>>
>> My 2 cents
>> Josiah
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Slideshow Macro

2018-04-19 Thread Steven Schneider

Birthe: thanks! that did it! //steve.

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 1:01:18 PM UTC-4, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Hi Jill,
>
> You have the story view set to top. That did not work for me so I tried 
> story view=classic.
>
>
> Birthe
>
>
> torsdag den 19. april 2018 kl. 16.46.34 UTC+2 skrev jtaylo...@gmail.com:
>>
>> Hello everyone, 
>>
>> I am one of the students in Steve Schnider's class that utilizes 
>> TiddlyWiki. For my final project, I am using a macro that allows me to 
>> present my project as a slideshow. However, when I click to view it as a 
>> slideshow, *all of my tiddlers are sorted correctly*, but the "show" 
>> starts at the bottom of my slides. I was wondering if anyone could give me 
>> some advice as to how to fix this? After all, I would like to begin my 
>> presentation, from the beginning. Any help is appreciated! Please and thank 
>> you!
>>
>> -Jill
>>
>>
>> Macro: 
>> http://sunypoly-christj3-secondlastfinalproject.tiddlyspot.com/#PunchShow%20Macro
>>
>> Home/View as slideshow: 
>> http://sunypoly-christj3-secondlastfinalproject.tiddlyspot.com/#
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles