RE: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice
Using FMT forces correct syntax use. Having the trailing formatting characters, can cause all kinds of issues with small typos in the code (especially when the compiler just takes it all in it's stride). Look at these two examples: * Accidentally inserting a space into a numeric constant A = 123 4 CRT A * displays 123. * missing out a colon or a comma CRT "XYZ" "ABC" * Displays ABC We use a syntax checking program which throws both of these out as bad syntax, so the code never gets anywhere near production. IMO the compiler shouldn't accept this type of formatting (or perhaps there should be a compiler $option). Although, we are a closed shop and work exclusively in PI/Open flavour, so portability isn't an issue for us. AdrianW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MAJ Programming Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 2:54 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice I gotta ask. How is it a disaster waiting to happen. This 'best practices' exercise may die an early death with such unauthorized conclusions. How are you judging the CRT example as 'disasterous'. Mark Johnson BTW, the FMT expression may not play well with other MV flavours. Thus, I tend to program continouosly to cover all of my client's needs. DISCLAIMER: Disclaimer. This e-mail is private and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise us by return e-mail immediately, and delete the e-mail and any attachments without using or disclosing the contents in any way. The views expressed in this e-mail are those of the author, and do not represent those of this company unless this is clearly indicated. You should scan this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. This company accepts no liability for any direct or indirect damage or loss resulting from the use of any attachments to this e-mail. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice
I gotta ask. How is it a disaster waiting to happen. This 'best practices' exercise may die an early death with such unauthorized conclusions. How are you judging the CRT example as 'disasterous'. Mark Johnson BTW, the FMT expression may not play well with other MV flavours. Thus, I tend to program continouosly to cover all of my client's needs. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Schasny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice > I'm not as concerned about the old style format strings as I am about > the readability of the code and ease of future modification concerning > the printed (CRT'd in this case) string. I'd do this: > > OUT.LINE = FMT(OCONV(VAR1,"MD0"),"R#6 ") > OUT.LINE := FMT(OCONV(VAR2,"MD2"),"R#10") > OUT.LINE := FMT(OCONV(VAR3,"MD4"),"R#14") > CRT OUT.LINE > > > Womack, Adrian wrote: > > IMO, the only thing wrong with your example is the use of the trailing > > format strings - everyone (and I mean everyone) should be using the FMT > > function, making your example: > > > > CRT FMT(OCONV(VAR1,"MD0"),"R#6 "):FMT(OCONV(VAR2,"MD2"),"R#10 > > "):FMT(OCONV(VAR3,"MD4"),"R#14") > > > > The old method is a disaster waiting to happen. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MAJ Programming > > Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 2:12 PM > > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > > Subject: Re: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice > > > > Here begins the voting for differences. > > > > I actually do not care for the inclusion of the extra Var1.F variables > > as, mentioned earlier, is that variable used elsewhere? Plus, it implies > > that it maybe part of a calculation instead of an upcoming, disposable > > CRT statement. > > > > Will I rot as I use this CRT statement? > > > > CRT OCONV(VAR1,"MD0")"R#6':" ":OCONV(VAR2,"MD2")"R#10":" > > ":OCONV(VAR3,"MD4")"R#14". > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: > > Disclaimer. This e-mail is private and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise us by return e-mail immediately, and delete the e-mail and any attachments without using or disclosing the contents in any way. The views expressed in this e-mail are those of the author, and do not represent those of this company unless this is clearly indicated. You should scan this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. This company accepts no liability for any direct or indirect damage or loss resulting from the use of any attachments to this e-mail. > > --- > > u2-users mailing list > > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Schasny - Denver, Co, USA > jeff at schasny dot com > > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice
Exactly why is CRT VAR1/100"R2#10" such a challenge to those who want to use CRT FMT(OCONV(VAR1,"MD2")"R2#10") ? I've concluded that method years ago and haven't looked back. Surely by now if there was some hidden problem I would have run into it by now. Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: "Susan Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice > Also, according to the UniBasic Reference Manual, "The FMT function can > produce different results based on the BASICTYPE setting." So, if we are > going to discuss programming standards, do we have to discuss them for each > BASICTYPE flavor? The manual documents what happens with BASICTYPE U, but > those of us who are in SB shops are required to use BASICTYPE P, where the > documentation does not often specify what the variations will be. > > Susan M. Lynch > F.W. Davison & Company, Inc. > > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Haskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:14 PM > Subject: RE: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice > > > > Adrian: > > > > I'm not sure about the disaster part. We've moved from D3 to Unidata (a > > trying > > experience) and the string handling seems to work fine. We have code > > like: > > > > CRT OCONV(VAR1, 'MD0') "R(#06)" : > > CRT OCONV(VAR2, 'MD2') "R(#10)" : > > CRT OCONV(VAR3, 'MD4') "R(#14)" ; ** end of output line > > > > ...and it works perfectly. So, since FMT isn't (or at least hasn't been) > > as portable > > as the string formating code (FMT wasn't part of the Adds, GA, R83, > > AdvPick, D3 line > > of MV), I'd say using FMT violates the guideline of "make it portable". > > > > Just a thought... > > > > Bill > > > >>Womack, Adrian wrote: > >>> IMO, the only thing wrong with your example is the use of the trailing > >>> format strings - everyone (and I mean everyone) should be using the FMT > >>> function, making your example: > >>> > >>> CRT FMT(OCONV(VAR1,"MD0"),"R#6 "):FMT(OCONV(VAR2,"MD2"),"R#10 > >>> "):FMT(OCONV(VAR3,"MD4"),"R#14") > >>> > >>> The old method is a disaster waiting to happen. > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MAJ Programming > >>> Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 2:12 PM > >>> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > >>> Subject: Re: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice > >>> > >>> Here begins the voting for differences. > >>> > >>> I actually do not care for the inclusion of the extra Var1.F variables > >>> as, mentioned earlier, is that variable used elsewhere? Plus, it implies > >>> that it maybe part of a calculation instead of an upcoming, disposable > >>> CRT statement. > >>> > >>> Will I rot as I use this CRT statement? > >>> > >>> CRT OCONV(VAR1,"MD0")"R#6':" ":OCONV(VAR2,"MD2")"R#10":" > >>> ":OCONV(VAR3,"MD4")"R#14". > > --- > > u2-users mailing list > > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice
Considering the garbage I've inherited, I feel that I've made many previous expressions more concise and direct. Oh yeah, what "Certification" ? If any exists, I haven't stumbled upon it. Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: "Jerry Banker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:00 AM Subject: RE: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice > I don't like it. I've been in the language for over 25 years and have > passed the certification a couple of times and when I looked at this I > was scratching my head for a while. Obviously you know what you are > doing but what is going to happen with the next programmer when you > retire. > > -Original Message- > From: MAJ Programming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:12 PM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: Re: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice > > Oddly enough, to make things more interesting, I would have coded it > this > way: > > CRT VAR1"R0#6":" ":VAR2/100"R2#10":" ":VAR3/1"R4#14" > > Less typing. For output, the only time I use OCONV is a "MTx" time > conversion or if the value isn't justified and I want the all the > decimals. > I use DATE()"D2/" beaucoups of times. > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UniObjects 101 - Java
If you've installed UniObjects for Java (UOJ) on your PC, the installer should have copied samples to your installation drive. On my installation, it is D drive: D:\IBM\UniDK\uojsdk\samples They're useful for "code snippets", if you don't want to run these particular samples. Regards David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 2:02 AM To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: RE: [U2] UniObjects 101 - Java This helps a lot. Thanks so much. --Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Digest - sequence of posts
... and as well as restoring the Digest function, any chance of the Digest being in some logical sequence again ? It's rather hard to follow threads when the answers come before the question ... David Norman Senior Software Engineer SA Ambulance Service Box 3, GPO Adelaide, South Australia 5001 *+61 8 8274 0384 * fax +61 8 8271 4844 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Digest - single posts
Hello You're not sending digests - just single posts. Please correct. cheers David Beckwith Developer - Direct AD Management Services - Applications Development Direct: +61 8 9213 6060 - IMPORTANT NOTICE : The information in this email is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, any use or dissemination of the information and any disclosure or copying of this email is unauthorised and strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please promptly inform us by reply email or telephone. You should also delete this email and destroy any hard copies produced. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] RE: U2 Users Digest V1 #1951
Jan, Thank you to you and the others who have brought it to our attention. I'm sure Larry will get to it as soon as the holiday permits. He's really good with this sort of thing. - Chuck Jan Darr wrote: We are receiving one email per digest, once again. Could this be resolved? --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Re: IBM developerWorks Forum for U2
I particulary like the recursive login requirement. The deeper you drill down into the site, the more times you have to login. -- Dave Walker Programmer/Analyst Ivy Hill - Louisville (502) 473-2811 *IBM Certified Solutions Expert *U2 Family Application Development > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Haskett > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:36 PM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: RE: [U2] Re: IBM developerWorks Forum for U2 > > > David: > > I just had to laugh at your description of the IBM site. The > site does seem to be > designed to increase a user's blood pressure. :-) > > On the other hand, I've not spoken to an IBM/U2 person who > doesn't agree. > > Bill > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David > >A Barrett > >Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:42 AM > >To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > >Subject: [U2] Re: IBM developerWorks Forum for U2 > > > >Wally, > > > >I would have posted this on the DeveloperWorks forum, but > that needed me to > >know my IBM ID, which I can't remember, and the "I forgot my > IBM ID" link > >just seemed to keep popping up the same login page over and > overthen > >eventually spat out a list of phone numbers for the help > desk. Which all > >reminds me that there is nothing, but nothing, in this world > guaranteed to > >push my blood pressure into the "You're gonna have a stroke > real soon" zone > >faster than a visit to the IBM website. > > [snipped] > > >Dave Barrett, > >Lawyers' Professional Indemnity Company > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] U2 - ADO.NET provider [not-secure]
After attending U2U in Tarrytown I couldn't wait to download the ADO.NET provider of DB2 and U2. So I installed it and attempted to create a connection to the HS.SALES account. Of course this fails. Does anyone know if there is a technote or other documentation covering installation and connection issues? I'm attempting to connect to UV 10.2.2 server running on a Sun box. PS - Happy Thanksgiving to US readers, and Happy Thursday to everyone else! Mark Hennessey --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Re: IBM developerWorks Forum for U2
David: I just had to laugh at your description of the IBM site. The site does seem to be designed to increase a user's blood pressure. :-) On the other hand, I've not spoken to an IBM/U2 person who doesn't agree. Bill >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David >A Barrett >Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:42 AM >To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >Subject: [U2] Re: IBM developerWorks Forum for U2 > >Wally, > >I would have posted this on the DeveloperWorks forum, but that needed me to >know my IBM ID, which I can't remember, and the "I forgot my IBM ID" link >just seemed to keep popping up the same login page over and overthen >eventually spat out a list of phone numbers for the help desk. Which all >reminds me that there is nothing, but nothing, in this world guaranteed to >push my blood pressure into the "You're gonna have a stroke real soon" zone >faster than a visit to the IBM website. [snipped] >Dave Barrett, >Lawyers' Professional Indemnity Company --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] RE: U2 Users Digest V1 #1951
We are receiving one email per digest, once again. Could this be resolved? Thanks, Jan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: U2 Users Digest V1 #1951 U2 Users Digest Wednesday, November 21 2007 Volume 01 : Number 1951 In this issue: RE: [U2] mvdevcentral -- Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:45:34 -0800 From: Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [U2] mvdevcentral Looks like a redesign. There is a temp site up now.> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:39:17 -0600> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> Subject: [U2] mvdevcentral> > Has mvdevcentral.com been shut down? When I request the> site my browser says it connected to the site and then I am> presented with a blank page.> > Ron White> ---> u2-users mailing list> u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- End of U2 Users Digest V1 #1951 *** u2-users-digest mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] IBM developerWorks Forum for U2
Wally, This sounds like a wonderful addition. - Chuck Wally Terhune wrote: We have launched a new user forum on the IBM developerWorks site that is managed by the U2 Product Management team. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Re: IBM developerWorks Forum for U2
Wally, I would have posted this on the DeveloperWorks forum, but that needed me to know my IBM ID, which I can't remember, and the "I forgot my IBM ID" link just seemed to keep popping up the same login page over and overthen eventually spat out a list of phone numbers for the help desk. Which all reminds me that there is nothing, but nothing, in this world guaranteed to push my blood pressure into the "You're gonna have a stroke real soon" zone faster than a visit to the IBM website. Anyways... What's the point of this new forum? The PICK world is already small and inward looking and we have this really nice U2 Users list which has a nice healthy amount of traffic, with lots of questions and answers happening on it every day. It seems to me that you'd do far better monitoring this list, and directing your customers to us, than you will from starting up a new forum, which looks like it has only had about 10 posts in 4 months. I'm concerned that you'll look at the lack of postings on your own forum, and the lack of suggestions and say, "There's no interest in this product" and development will drop off. Dave Barrett, Lawyers' Professional Indemnity Company --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Problem with the digest?
One for one today... Regards, Bob Wyatt --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] mvdevcentral
It's been down for over 6 months, along with PickSource. I'm putting Joomla on it at the moment, after discussions on u2-community. Please move this over to u2-community if you want to respond or have a request for content that was on either site. Thanks, Glen Batchelor IT Director All-Spec Industries phone: (910) 332-0424 fax: (910) 763-5664 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.all-spec.com Blog: http://blog.all-spec.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron White > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:39 AM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: [U2] mvdevcentral > > Has mvdevcentral.com been shut down? When I request the > site my browser says it connected to the site and then I am > presented with a blank page. > > Ron White > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] mvdevcentral
Looks like a redesign. There is a temp site up now.> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:39:17 -0600> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> Subject: [U2] mvdevcentral> > Has mvdevcentral.com been shut down? When I request the> site my browser says it connected to the site and then I am> presented with a blank page.> > Ron White> ---> u2-users mailing list> u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] mvdevcentral
Looks like a redesign. There is a temp site up now.> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:39:17 -0600> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> Subject: [U2] mvdevcentral> > Has mvdevcentral.com been shut down? When I request the> site my browser says it connected to the site and then I am> presented with a blank page.> > Ron White> ---> u2-users mailing list> u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] IBM developerWorks Forum for U2
On behalf of U2 marketing and PM folks: Attention U2 User Group members, U2 Product Management and Marketing would like to announce the latest in communication tools available to you for connecting to the U2 community. We have launched a new user forum on the IBM developerWorks site that is managed by the U2 Product Management team. Expect to see feedback and opinions on the Getting the Most out of U2 podcast series, as well as many other related topics relating to the U2 suite of products. We invite you to use this forum to provide us with feedback and to offer any suggestions you may have for future podcast topics (including technical topics) that you'd like to see covered. You can find a link to this forum on the U2 home page of developerWorks under the Community section or link directly via this URL: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/forum.jspa?forumID=1133 . Better yet, listen to our latest podcasts at: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/podcast/, click "Comment on this podcast" and you'll be directed right to the forum where you can tell us what you think. Wally Terhune SWG Client Support - Information Management Software U2 Support Architect b IBM U2 Client Support Team 4700 S. Syracuse St., Denver, CO 80237 Tel: (303) 773-7969 T/L 656-7969 Mobile: (303) 807-6222 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Register today for the premier U2 technical event! [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 27501832.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 27113092.jpg] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] mvdevcentral
Has mvdevcentral.com been shut down? When I request the site my browser says it connected to the site and then I am presented with a blank page. Ron White --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UniObjects 101 - Java
This helps a lot. Thanks so much. --Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:02 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniObjects 101 - Java I just checked and my efforts with UOJ have been backed up and are not handy right now, but I thought that Wendy put some examples on the pickwiki.com site under the Java and JSP examples at http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SourceCode I did not review them now to be sure, but I suspect that will give an idea. Wendy was using JSP for the UI and you can add in an AJAX framework like DOJO to bring it more up to date for today's expectations in browser-based interfaces. It is no small deal to get this all working, by the way, even if you are already proficient in Java. For the backend, we coded our own connection pooling, which I gather is no longer permitted (or you need to pay as much as if you used IBM's connection pooling or ...?) So, I suspect that this is NOT a Hello World out on pickwiki, but hopefully can make it easier to figure one out. cheers! --dawn On Nov 20, 2007 7:21 PM, Brutzman, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am struggling with the UniObjects demos in the c:\IBM\UniDK\lib\asjava. > > Are there any easier beginner-level (Hello World) examples of UniObject Java > code available? > > --Bill > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. Take and give some delight today --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/