RE: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice

2007-11-21 Thread Womack, Adrian
Using FMT forces correct syntax use. Having the trailing formatting
characters, can cause all kinds of issues with small typos in the code
(especially when the compiler just takes it all in it's stride).

Look at these two examples:

* Accidentally inserting a space into a numeric constant
A = 123 4 
CRT A
* displays 123.

* missing out a colon or a comma
CRT "XYZ" "ABC"
* Displays ABC

We use a syntax checking program which throws both of these out as bad
syntax, so the code never gets anywhere near production. IMO the
compiler shouldn't accept this type of formatting (or perhaps there
should be a compiler $option). Although, we are a closed shop and work
exclusively in PI/Open flavour, so portability isn't an issue for us.

AdrianW

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I gotta ask. How is it a disaster waiting to happen.

This 'best practices' exercise may die an early death with such
unauthorized conclusions. How are you judging the CRT example as
'disasterous'.

Mark Johnson

BTW, the FMT expression may not play well with other MV flavours. Thus,
I tend to program continouosly to cover all of my client's needs.


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Re: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice

2007-11-21 Thread MAJ Programming
I gotta ask. How is it a disaster waiting to happen.

This 'best practices' exercise may die an early death with such unauthorized
conclusions. How are you judging the CRT example as 'disasterous'.

Mark Johnson

BTW, the FMT expression may not play well with other MV flavours. Thus, I
tend to program continouosly to cover all of my client's needs.
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> I'm not as concerned about the old style format strings as I am about
> the readability of the code and ease of future modification concerning
> the printed (CRT'd in this case) string. I'd do this:
>
> OUT.LINE = FMT(OCONV(VAR1,"MD0"),"R#6 ")
> OUT.LINE := FMT(OCONV(VAR2,"MD2"),"R#10")
> OUT.LINE := FMT(OCONV(VAR3,"MD4"),"R#14")
> CRT OUT.LINE
>
>
> Womack, Adrian wrote:
> > IMO, the only thing wrong with your example is the use of the trailing
> > format strings - everyone (and I mean everyone) should be using the FMT
> > function, making your example:
> >
> > CRT FMT(OCONV(VAR1,"MD0"),"R#6 "):FMT(OCONV(VAR2,"MD2"),"R#10
> > "):FMT(OCONV(VAR3,"MD4"),"R#14")
> >
> > The old method is a disaster waiting to happen.
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 2:12 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice
> >
> > Here begins the voting for differences.
> >
> > I actually do not care for the inclusion of the extra Var1.F variables
> > as, mentioned earlier, is that variable used elsewhere? Plus, it implies
> > that it maybe part of a calculation instead of an upcoming, disposable
> > CRT statement.
> >
> > Will I rot as I use this CRT statement?
> >
> > CRT OCONV(VAR1,"MD0")"R#6':" ":OCONV(VAR2,"MD2")"R#10":"
> > ":OCONV(VAR3,"MD4")"R#14".
> >
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Re: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice

2007-11-21 Thread MAJ Programming
Exactly why is

CRT VAR1/100"R2#10"

such a challenge to those who want to use

CRT FMT(OCONV(VAR1,"MD2")"R2#10")

?
I've concluded that method years ago and haven't looked back. Surely by now
if there was some hidden problem I would have run into it by now.

Mark Johnson
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> Also, according to the UniBasic Reference Manual, "The FMT function can
> produce different results based on the BASICTYPE setting."  So, if we are
> going to discuss programming standards, do we have to discuss them for
each
> BASICTYPE flavor?  The manual documents what happens with BASICTYPE U, but
> those of us who are in SB shops are required to use BASICTYPE P, where the
> documentation does not often specify what the variations will be.
>
> Susan M. Lynch
> F.W. Davison & Company, Inc.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bill Haskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:14 PM
> Subject: RE: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice
>
>
> > Adrian:
> >
> > I'm not sure about the disaster part.  We've moved from D3 to Unidata (a
> > trying
> > experience) and the string handling seems to work fine.  We have code
> > like:
> >
> > CRT OCONV(VAR1, 'MD0') "R(#06)" :
> > CRT OCONV(VAR2, 'MD2') "R(#10)" :
> > CRT OCONV(VAR3, 'MD4') "R(#14)"   ; ** end of output line
> >
> > ...and it works perfectly.  So, since FMT isn't (or at least hasn't
been)
> > as portable
> > as the string formating code (FMT wasn't part of the Adds, GA, R83,
> > AdvPick, D3 line
> > of MV), I'd say using FMT violates the guideline of "make it portable".
> >
> > Just a thought...
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >>Womack, Adrian wrote:
> >>> IMO, the only thing wrong with your example is the use of the trailing
> >>> format strings - everyone (and I mean everyone) should be using the
FMT
> >>> function, making your example:
> >>>
> >>> CRT FMT(OCONV(VAR1,"MD0"),"R#6 "):FMT(OCONV(VAR2,"MD2"),"R#10
> >>> "):FMT(OCONV(VAR3,"MD4"),"R#14")
> >>>
> >>> The old method is a disaster waiting to happen.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MAJ
Programming
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2007 2:12 PM
> >>> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice
> >>>
> >>> Here begins the voting for differences.
> >>>
> >>> I actually do not care for the inclusion of the extra Var1.F variables
> >>> as, mentioned earlier, is that variable used elsewhere? Plus, it
implies
> >>> that it maybe part of a calculation instead of an upcoming, disposable
> >>> CRT statement.
> >>>
> >>> Will I rot as I use this CRT statement?
> >>>
> >>> CRT OCONV(VAR1,"MD0")"R#6':" ":OCONV(VAR2,"MD2")"R#10":"
> >>> ":OCONV(VAR3,"MD4")"R#14".
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Re: [U2] OCONV Extraction Question - Good Practice

2007-11-21 Thread MAJ Programming
Considering the garbage I've inherited, I feel that I've made many previous
expressions more concise and direct.

Oh yeah, what "Certification" ? If any exists, I haven't stumbled upon it.

Mark Johnson
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> I don't like it. I've been in the language for over 25 years and have
> passed the certification a couple of times and when I looked at this I
> was scratching my head for a while. Obviously you know what you are
> doing but what is going to happen with the next programmer when you
> retire.
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> Oddly enough, to make things more interesting, I would have coded it
> this
> way:
>
> CRT VAR1"R0#6":" ":VAR2/100"R2#10":" ":VAR3/1"R4#14"
>
> Less typing. For output, the only time I use OCONV is a "MTx" time
> conversion or if the value isn't justified and I want the all the
> decimals.
> I use DATE()"D2/" beaucoups of times.
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RE: [U2] UniObjects 101 - Java

2007-11-21 Thread Hona, David S
If you've installed UniObjects for Java (UOJ) on your PC, the installer
should have copied samples to your installation drive. On my
installation, it is D drive:

D:\IBM\UniDK\uojsdk\samples

They're useful for "code snippets", if you don't want to run these
particular samples.


Regards
David


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This helps a lot.  Thanks so much.

--Bill
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[U2] Digest - sequence of posts

2007-11-21 Thread Norman, David (SAAS)
... and as well as restoring the Digest function, any chance of the
Digest being in some logical sequence again ? It's rather hard to follow
threads when the answers come before the question ...


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[U2] Digest - single posts

2007-11-21 Thread David Beckwith
Hello
  You're not sending digests - just single posts.  Please correct.
cheers
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Re: [U2] RE: U2 Users Digest V1 #1951

2007-11-21 Thread Charles Barouch

Jan,
   Thank you to you and the others who have brought it to our 
attention. I'm sure Larry will get to it as soon as the holiday permits. 
He's really good with this sort of thing.


- Chuck

Jan Darr wrote:

We are receiving one email per digest, once again. Could this be resolved?

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RE: [U2] Re: IBM developerWorks Forum for U2

2007-11-21 Thread Dave Walker
I particulary like the recursive login requirement. The deeper you drill
down into the site, the more times you have to login.
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> 
> 
> David:
> 
> I just had to laugh at your description of the IBM site.  The 
> site does seem to be
> designed to increase a user's blood pressure.  :-)
> 
> On the other hand, I've not spoken to an IBM/U2 person who 
> doesn't agree.
> 
> Bill 
> 
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> >A Barrett
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> >Subject: [U2] Re: IBM developerWorks Forum for U2
> >
> >Wally,
> >
> >I would have posted this on the DeveloperWorks forum, but 
> that needed me to
> >know my IBM ID, which I can't remember, and the "I forgot my 
> IBM ID" link
> >just seemed to keep popping up the same login page over and 
> overthen
> >eventually spat out a list of phone numbers for the help 
> desk.  Which all
> >reminds me that there is nothing, but nothing, in this world 
> guaranteed to
> >push my blood pressure into the "You're gonna have a stroke 
> real soon" zone
> >faster than a visit to the IBM website.
> 
> [snipped]
> 
> >Dave Barrett,
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[U2] U2 - ADO.NET provider [not-secure]

2007-11-21 Thread Hennessey, Mark F.
After attending U2U in Tarrytown I couldn't wait to download the ADO.NET
provider of DB2 and U2.

So I installed it and attempted to create a connection to the HS.SALES
account. Of course this fails.  Does anyone know if there is a
technote or other documentation covering installation and connection
issues?  I'm attempting to connect to UV 10.2.2 server running on a Sun
box.


PS - Happy Thanksgiving to US readers, and Happy Thursday to everyone
else!


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RE: [U2] Re: IBM developerWorks Forum for U2

2007-11-21 Thread Bill Haskett
David:

I just had to laugh at your description of the IBM site.  The site does seem to 
be
designed to increase a user's blood pressure.  :-)

On the other hand, I've not spoken to an IBM/U2 person who doesn't agree.

Bill 

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>Subject: [U2] Re: IBM developerWorks Forum for U2
>
>Wally,
>
>I would have posted this on the DeveloperWorks forum, but that needed me to
>know my IBM ID, which I can't remember, and the "I forgot my IBM ID" link
>just seemed to keep popping up the same login page over and overthen
>eventually spat out a list of phone numbers for the help desk.  Which all
>reminds me that there is nothing, but nothing, in this world guaranteed to
>push my blood pressure into the "You're gonna have a stroke real soon" zone
>faster than a visit to the IBM website.

[snipped]

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[U2] RE: U2 Users Digest V1 #1951

2007-11-21 Thread Jan Darr
We are receiving one email per digest, once again. Could this be
resolved?

Thanks,
 
Jan 
 

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U2 Users Digest Wednesday, November 21 2007 Volume 01 : Number
1951



In this issue:

RE: [U2] mvdevcentral

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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:45:34 -0800
From: Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [U2] mvdevcentral

Looks like a redesign.  There is a temp site up now.> Date: Wed, 21 Nov
2007
10:39:17 -0600> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
Subject: [U2] mvdevcentral> > Has mvdevcentral.com been shut down? When
I
request the> site my browser says it connected to the site and then I
am>
presented with a blank page.> > Ron White> ---> u2-users mailing
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Re: [U2] IBM developerWorks Forum for U2

2007-11-21 Thread Charles Barouch

Wally,
This sounds like a wonderful addition.

- Chuck

Wally Terhune wrote:

We have launched a new user forum on the IBM developerWorks site that is 
managed by the U2 Product Management team.

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[U2] Re: IBM developerWorks Forum for U2

2007-11-21 Thread David A Barrett
Wally,

I would have posted this on the DeveloperWorks forum, but that needed me to
know my IBM ID, which I can't remember, and the "I forgot my IBM ID" link
just seemed to keep popping up the same login page over and overthen
eventually spat out a list of phone numbers for the help desk.  Which all
reminds me that there is nothing, but nothing, in this world guaranteed to
push my blood pressure into the "You're gonna have a stroke real soon" zone
faster than a visit to the IBM website.

Anyways...

What's the point of this new forum?  The PICK world is already small and
inward looking and we have this really nice U2 Users list which has a nice
healthy amount of traffic, with lots of questions and answers happening on
it every day.  It seems to me that you'd do far better monitoring this
list, and directing your customers to us, than you will from starting up a
new forum, which looks like it has only had about 10 posts in 4 months.
I'm concerned that you'll look at the lack of postings on your own forum,
and the lack of suggestions and say, "There's no interest in this product"
and development will drop off.


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[U2] Problem with the digest?

2007-11-21 Thread Bob Wyatt
One for one today...

Regards, 

Bob Wyatt 
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RE: [U2] mvdevcentral

2007-11-21 Thread Glen Batchelor
  It's been down for over 6 months, along with PickSource. I'm putting
Joomla on it at the moment, after discussions on u2-community. Please move
this over to u2-community if you want to respond or have a request for
content that was on either site.

Thanks,


Glen Batchelor
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All-Spec Industries
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> 
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RE: [U2] mvdevcentral

2007-11-21 Thread Steve Long
Looks like a redesign.  There is a temp site up now.> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007
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Subject: [U2] mvdevcentral> > Has mvdevcentral.com been shut down? When I
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RE: [U2] mvdevcentral

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Subject: [U2] mvdevcentral> > Has mvdevcentral.com been shut down? When I
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[U2] IBM developerWorks Forum for U2

2007-11-21 Thread Wally Terhune
On behalf of U2 marketing and PM folks:

Attention U2 User Group members, U2 Product Management and Marketing would
like to announce the latest in communication tools available to you for
connecting to the U2 community.  We have launched a new user forum on the
IBM developerWorks site that is managed by the U2 Product Management team.
Expect to see feedback and opinions on the Getting the Most out of U2
podcast series, as well as many other related topics relating to the U2
suite of products.  We invite you to use this forum to provide us with
feedback and to offer any suggestions you may have for future podcast
topics (including technical topics) that you'd like to see covered.

   You can find a link to this forum on the U2 home page of developerWorks
   under the Community section or link directly via this URL:
   http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/forum.jspa?forumID=1133 .

   Better yet, listen to our latest podcasts at:
   http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/podcast/, click "Comment on this
   podcast" and you'll be directed right to the forum where you can tell us
   what you think.

   
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[U2] mvdevcentral

2007-11-21 Thread Ron White

Has mvdevcentral.com been shut down?  When I request the
site my browser says it connected to the site and then I am
presented with a blank page.

Ron White
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RE: [U2] UniObjects 101 - Java

2007-11-21 Thread Brutzman, Bill
This helps a lot.  Thanks so much.

--Bill

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I just checked and my efforts with UOJ have been backed up and are not
handy right now, but I thought that Wendy put some examples on the
pickwiki.com site under the Java and JSP examples at
http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SourceCode

I did not review them now to be sure, but I suspect that will give an
idea.  Wendy was using JSP for the UI and you can add in an AJAX
framework like DOJO to bring it more up to date for today's
expectations in browser-based interfaces.  It is no small deal to get
this all working, by the way, even if you are already proficient in
Java.

For the backend, we coded our own connection pooling, which I gather
is no longer permitted (or you need to pay as much as if you used
IBM's connection pooling or ...?)

So, I suspect that this is NOT a Hello World out on pickwiki, but
hopefully can make it easier to figure one out.  cheers!  --dawn

On Nov 20, 2007 7:21 PM, Brutzman, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am struggling with the UniObjects demos in the c:\IBM\UniDK\lib\asjava.
>
> Are there any easier beginner-level (Hello World) examples of UniObject
Java
> code available?
>
> --Bill
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Dawn M. Wolthuis
Tincat Group, Inc.

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