Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problems with Merge in Draw

2013-01-22 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Kai,

Kai schrieb:

Hi Tom

thanks for the hint :)

Here you will find the attachments:
map_1.png http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4030970/map_1.png
map_2.png http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4030970/map_2.png

map_1 shows the map before merging,
map_2 shows the map after trying to merge the first couple of shapes.

I did use the context menu. I did use primitive shapes with regular
fillings.

Here is the file to the problem:

roads.odp http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4030970/roads.odp


That's good.

I use LO4.0 and there is no problem with merging.

You are not using primitive shapes, but custom shapes. If you use a 
custom shape you see the text shape in the status bar and the icon 
toggle 3D is enabled. Primitive shapes are for example rectangle, 
circle, parallelogram. You see the kind of shape in the status bar 
and the icon toggle 3D is disabled.


It is very likely, that you do not mark both of the shapes you want to 
merge. Have a look into the status bar. If you see shape selected it 
is only 1 shape, you should see 2 shapes selected and later on 2 draw 
object selected when you have marked different kind of shapes.


Why do you work in Impress? For such drawings Draw is the better module. 
In Draw you can use layers. You can have a layer for the hexagons, one 
for the green park and another one for the streets. If you lock the 
other layers, you can select the street-parts easily by dragging a 
selection rectangle.


Merging is only possible with Bézier-curves, so do not wonder, when your 
shapes are converted automatically.


Kind regards
Regina



I've been able to reproduce the issue:

Create a circle with a diameter of X (let's say 1cm).
Create a rectangle with a width of 1cm and any height.
Align the bottom centre of the rectangle to the centre of the circle.

Now rotate the rectangle by 60 degrees (120 or 240 work as well) with the
rotation axis being the centre of the circle.
Contextmenu - shape - merge; The result is anything but a proper merge.

Any creative ideas?


Thanks and kind regards,
Kai



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Re: [libreoffice-users] is MSFT running scared ...

2013-01-22 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


That unplugging does not work when you deal with a laptop though.

The sudo command only works with a Linux install, or live media.  That 
is why I liked the rescue disk.  You did not need to deal with 
commands.  All you had to do was boot it up and press a button or 
three.  The rest was automatic.


as for the thread title. . . .
MS was really expecting big income from their Win8 OS and their Win8 
tablet.  There seems not to be much less upgrade sales that they 
predicted.  There tablet failed to catch any real market share.  
MSO-2013 is coming out soon, but the info I have read stated that it was 
optimized to work with Win8 and its touch abilities.  How it will work 
with XP, Vista, Win7, or even Win8 with non-touch displays will be the 
key.  Also their XML .docx file format [and the others] is not 
compatible to the 2007 or 2010 XML abilities so a .docx file created 
with 2013 has a very good chance not to be readable within 2007 or 
2010.  They do this deliberately to force users to upgrade to their 
new office product[s].  This was never a good idea in a good economy, 
but even worse in todays economic conditions where businesses cannot 
afford the new pricing scheme that MSO uses now.


I have read reports showing that MS profits are less and less each 
quarter [on average].  I have not read how much their failed tablet has 
cost them though.  Still, their profits are greater than most business 
out there.  The desktop/laptop market is slowing as the tablet market is 
taking more of its market share, but the tablet sales are slowing as 
well.  It is the economic conditions, and users for personal and 
business systems do not have the capital to buy as much tech as they 
once did.


As long as there is a product like LibreOffice that is developing better 
and better filters to read/write MSO formats, I will not be buying any 
MSO products for the foreseeable future.  If MS creates a more sensible 
Windows 9 OS, I may think about upgrading my Win7 laptop to it one day, 
but not Win8.


As long as I can use Ubuntu, or other Linux OS, for my needs, I will 
prefer to use it.  I will have one Windows OS to deal with the required 
Windows hardware and software - like defragging external drives.  My TV 
and blu-ray devices do not support non-Windows disk formats so I will 
still need those large externals to be NTFS and defragged by Windows 
from time to time. Then there are the Windows-only software 
packages/utilities that deal with special features of my 
multi-function printers, like their printing of a printable CD/DVD 
media's label; or a Windows-only USB video capture device.



On 01/21/2013 08:37 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Yes, installing a new Windows alongside an existing one still does 
over-write the Mbr and hides all previous versions of Windows as well 
as any other OSes you have.  It doesn't matter if the newer version is 
on a different physical drive or on an external drive or anything else.


One trick is to physically unplug the drive with the Mbr you want to 
save and then install the newer Windows on it's own drive.  it will 
overwrite the Mbr on it's drive but will leave the unplugged drive's 
Mbr alone.  Then when you plug in the old drive then hopefully you can 
set the bios to boot the old drive first.  Of course this means the 
old drive is unaware of the new install so you'll need to run 
something like

sudo update-grub
from you old GnuLinux distro.

Regards form
Tom :)



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*Sent:* Tuesday, 22 January 2013, 0:39
*Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] is MSFT running scared ...


Maybe you should give the URL for the Linux-based boot repair disk
[.iso file download].  I do not remember it it.

I have two different disk type/names.

boot-repair-disk.iso - 355 MB

ubuntu-secure-remix-12.10-32-bit.iso - 787 MB
ubuntu-secure-remix-12.10-64-bit.iso - 797.1 MB

I think I used the boot-repair-disk version since all you had to
do was choose your OS version/type you are using.  I think I
remember correctly that there was only 4 buttons to choose from
once the disk/OS booted up.

My Dell laptop had 32-bit Vista even though 64-bit Vista was out
and working.  Too cheap maybe to include it, since it cost us more
for the 64-bit version back then. I just upgraded that dual boot
laptop 64-bit Win7 professional from 32-bit Vista and 64-bit
Ubuntu 12.10 from 12.04 version.  Win7/pro killed the dual booting
till I ran the repair disk.  I tend to use the Ubuntu boot for
the testing of the newest version of Ubuntu [10.04 to 10.10 to
11.04 to 11.10 to 12.04 to 12.10] before I upgrade it on my
production desktop.  I upgraded the Vista to Win7/pro [64-bit]
so I can have a working 64-bit Windows OS on one of my systems

Re: [libreoffice-users] is MSFT running scared ...

2013-01-22 Thread Steven Shelton

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On 1/21/2013 4:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Typically Windows seem to have 1 bad version followed by 1 good one and then 
 the next is bad. Vista
was apparently so bad that many people said they upgraded from Vista
back to Xp. Even though that was a backwards step many considered it an
upgrade. Win7 was quite good. Before Xp was Millenium which was
generally considered so appalling that people are more likely to have
heard of Win98. So, people might be expecting Win8 to be another dead OS.


As an aside--and apropos to nothing--I actually liked Windows ME. It
fixed some networking problems I'd had with Win 98, and I never
understood why people always dogged on it so much. It worked great for me.

Vista, on the other hand, needed to be scraped from my boot from the
moment I had a computer running it. I was more than happy to upgrade to
Win 7 (although, to be honest, I still think XP was the best version of
Windows ever produced and I still run it on my computers when I have the
option). I've only had the smallest amount of time on Windows 8, but it
seems apallingly bad and I have no plans to EVER put it on any of my
systems.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] is MSFT running scared ...

2013-01-22 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


The problem most people I know has with ME was drivers.

The big 2 reasons why I went from Vistas to Win7 were: 1) external drive 
issues, 2) support for newer hardware [driver] and software.  It also 
helped going from 32-bit Vista to 64-bit Win7.


I still have an XP laptop, but there are more and more hardware and 
software that wants at least Vista to run, or does not run well on XP.


The only reason to upgrade to Win8, to me, is the advanced touch 
options, as long as you have a touch display though.  My only touch 
display is on my Android tablet and that will be the case for the 
foreseeable future.



On 01/22/2013 11:19 AM, Steven Shelton wrote:

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On 1/21/2013 4:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Typically Windows seem to have 1 bad version followed by 1 good one and then 
the next is bad. Vista

was apparently so bad that many people said they upgraded from Vista
back to Xp. Even though that was a backwards step many considered it an
upgrade. Win7 was quite good. Before Xp was Millenium which was
generally considered so appalling that people are more likely to have
heard of Win98. So, people might be expecting Win8 to be another dead OS.


As an aside--and apropos to nothing--I actually liked Windows ME. It
fixed some networking problems I'd had with Win 98, and I never
understood why people always dogged on it so much. It worked great for me.

Vista, on the other hand, needed to be scraped from my boot from the
moment I had a computer running it. I was more than happy to upgrade to
Win 7 (although, to be honest, I still think XP was the best version of
Windows ever produced and I still run it on my computers when I have the
option). I've only had the smallest amount of time on Windows 8, but it
seems apallingly bad and I have no plans to EVER put it on any of my
systems.

- -- 
Steven Shelton


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[libreoffice-users] Forms navigation through Tab issues

2013-01-22 Thread Sigaud Éric
Hi there,

I'm dealing with internet data collection for statistical issues.

We're generating OpenDocument Questionnaires via XSL Transformation (generating 
the content.xml file and packaging the whole).
The odf seems to be correct and is validating ODF Schema. However, even if we 
had correctly put the form:tab-index in forms when wanted, the navigation using 
tab between forms doesn't seem to work well.
If you just open the file, focus on one of the forms on the first page and use 
tab, it won't go further than pages you've already scrolled on screen.
I'm using LibreOffice 3.5.4, but bug was replayed on 3.6.3.2 version.
You'll find attached (if my attachment went through the mailing-list) one 
example questionnaire.

It looks like a bug (some memory stuff as if it needs to see the forms before 
being able to navigate to them), but I may miss something in the odf content...

Thanks in advance,

Eric Sigaud

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Forms navigation through Tab issues

2013-01-22 Thread Tom
Hi :)  
Attachments get stripped off the list so we missed those.  

You can use the Nabble way of viewing the mailing list and upload
'attachments' to Nabble instead.  Just either
1.  follow the links in this email or
2.  from the official LibreOffice website try
Get Help - Nabble
and then navigate to this thread.  

Once here start writing a reply and while doing so click on the More
button at the top of the message.  The top option in the more button
allows you to upload file and that puts a link to the uploaded file into the
message itself.  

Regards from
Tom :)   



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Re: [libreoffice-users] is MSFT running scared ...

2013-01-22 Thread Doug

On 01/22/2013 11:19 AM, Steven Shelton wrote:,

/snip/
 I still think XP was the best version of Windows ever produced and I 
still run it on my computers when I have the option). I've only had the 
smallest amount of time on Windows 8, but it seems apallingly bad and I 
have no plans  to EVER put it on any of my systems. - -- Steven Shelton 
-


For a good reliable system, I tend to agree with you, altho Win 7 works 
well--for Windows.  If the world were perfect, Windows 98 would have 
worked without BSOD all the time, and it would have been the best.
(Of course it was only 16-bit.) But Win 98 still allowed the user some 
control over where things were stored and in what user-named 
directories, and you could use the 3rd party program whereis to find them,
*but _not_ open them* so you could do something with the file 
itself--copy it, move it, email it which you can't do in the later 
Windowses. At least not without a lot of grief.  Now i mostly use 
PCLinuxOS, except
for just a few instances where programs only run on Windows--programmers 
for GPS, and for new ham radios, and WordPerfect and AutoCAD.  (WP still 
puts LO to shame, imho.


--doug


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Re: [libreoffice-users] is MSFT running scared ...

2013-01-22 Thread Girvin R. Herr

Tom, et. al.,
Here is another computer system boot issue that should be of concern to 
free software, especially OS's:


   http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot

Sleep tight.
Girvin Herr



Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Yes, installing a new Windows alongside an existing one still does over-write the Mbr and hides all previous versions of Windows as well as any other OSes you have.  It doesn't matter if the newer version is on a different physical drive or on an external drive or anything else.  

One trick is to physically unplug the drive with the Mbr you want to save and then install the newer Windows on it's own drive.  it will overwrite the Mbr on it's drive but will leave the unplugged drive's Mbr alone.  Then when you plug in the old drive then hopefully you can set the bios to boot the old drive first.  Of course this means the old drive is unaware of the new install so you'll need to run something like 
sudo update-grub

from you old GnuLinux distro.

Regards form
Tom :)  






  


From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: LibreO - Users Global users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2013, 0:39

Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] is MSFT running scared ...


Maybe you should give the URL for the Linux-based boot repair disk [.iso file 
download].  I do not remember it it.

I have two different disk type/names.

boot-repair-disk.iso - 355 MB

ubuntu-secure-remix-12.10-32-bit.iso - 787 MB
ubuntu-secure-remix-12.10-64-bit.iso - 797.1 MB

I think I used the boot-repair-disk version since all you had to do was 
choose your OS version/type you are using.  I think I remember correctly that there was 
only 4 buttons to choose from once the disk/OS booted up.

My Dell laptop had 32-bit Vista even though 64-bit Vista was out and working.  Too cheap maybe to 
include it, since it cost us more for the 64-bit version back then.  I just upgraded that dual boot 
laptop 64-bit Win7 professional from 32-bit Vista and 64-bit Ubuntu 12.10 from 12.04 version.  
Win7/pro killed the dual booting till I ran the repair disk.  I tend to use the Ubuntu 
boot for the testing of the newest version of Ubuntu [10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04 to 11.10 to 12.04 to 
12.10] before I upgrade it on my production desktop.  I upgraded the Vista to Win7/pro 
[64-bit] so I can have a working 64-bit Windows OS on one of my systems without going to Win8, 
since I do not have any touch screens except on my Android 4.0 tablet.

Actually, I wonder if Win7 or Win8 would break the dual [or triple] booting a 
laptop if both boot partitions were running a Windows OS before one was 
upgraded from XP or Vista to Win7 or Win8?  Would Windows break the multi-boot 
if there would be two+ Windows OSs on the same system but in different boot 
partitions?

Windows 2000 was for business based on Win NT, while Win Millennium was for the 
home user based on Win98.  Millennium was worse than Vista ever was and most 
users I dealt with switched to Win 2000 till XP [home or professional]  came 
out.

Win8 look and feel is a reworking of their failed smart phone OS. They decided that they still liked it and moved it to the Win8 
tablet OS.  BUT, someone had the bad idea of wanting all of your Windows based systems to look and feel 
the same.  I do not want my production desktop to have the look and feel of my tablet. I hated Unity's 
look and feel when it came out in the Spring of 2011.  Win8 seemed to look and feel the same.  I read that a large number of 
Ubuntu user switched to Mint Linux because of Unity.  If MS would have looked at the fallout when Ubuntu went to 
Unity, maybe they would have thought twice about using a tablet looking OS desktop display for their desktop/laptop OSs.  I kept 
Ubuntu, but switched to MATE for the desktop environment.

For my opinion what business users in my area will do with new Win8 systems; not buy them 
if they can get new Win7 systems or downgrade the new Win8 systems to Win7.  Every 
business user I have talked to locally hates the look of Win8 and do not want to have to 
pay for the training to get their users to be able to use it.  XP/Vista to Win7 was a 
little change, but XP/Vista/Win7 to Win8 was a real big change that needs a lot of 
training.  TV ads for retail computer stores use to offer free Win8 training so people 
could learn how to deal with the big changes.  Well, those TV ads are all gone, along 
with most of the Win8 ads [number of ads per day/week] are gone now.  Almost all of the 
MS's tablet are gone now, but there are some major computer companies [like HP] ads about 
tablet to laptop convertibles though replacing MS's tablet with a keyboard 
ads..




On 01/21/2013 04:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:


Hi :)
There is always 'unexpectedly low' take-up of Windows newest OS when it first 
gets released.  Historically corporate users have learned to leave it until 
after at least the first Service Pack gets released.  

Re: [libreoffice-users] is MSFT running scared ...

2013-01-22 Thread Girvin R. Herr

Webmaster,
Not always true.  My HP laptop, admittedly old, has a hard drive that 
can be removed fairly easily with a screwdriver.  The trick is to have a 
spare drive and mounting frame to install.

Girvin Herr


webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:


That unplugging does not work when you deal with a laptop though.


snip


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[libreoffice-users] First occurrence of a negative number in a column

2013-01-22 Thread Kolbjørn Stuestøl
Is there any way to find the first occurrence of a number less (or 
greater) than a given number in an unsorted array or a column?
Example: A1:A31 contains a list of temperatures a given month. I would 
like to find the first day the temperature is below 0 degrees (metric).


Kolbjoern Stuestoel


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Re: [libreoffice-users] is MSFT running scared ...

2013-01-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Thanks for that.  I found that i hadn't already signed it!  Weird because i 
thought i signed it ages ago from this email account.  
Regards from
Tom :)  







 From: Girvin R. Herr girvin.h...@sbcglobal.net
To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com; LibreO - Users Global 
users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2013, 20:13
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] is MSFT running scared ...
 
Tom, et. al.,
Here is another computer system boot issue that should be of concern to 
free software, especially OS's:

    http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot

Sleep tight.
Girvin Herr



Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Yes, installing a new Windows alongside an existing one still does 
 over-write the Mbr and hides all previous versions of Windows as well as any 
 other OSes you have.  It doesn't matter if the newer version is on a 
 different physical drive or on an external drive or anything else.  

 One trick is to physically unplug the drive with the Mbr you want to save 
 and then install the newer Windows on it's own drive.  it will overwrite the 
 Mbr on it's drive but will leave the unplugged drive's Mbr alone.  Then when 
 you plug in the old drive then hopefully you can set the bios to boot the 
 old drive first.  Of course this means the old drive is unaware of the new 
 install so you'll need to run something like 
 sudo update-grub
 from you old GnuLinux distro.

 Regards form
 Tom :)  





  
 
 From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
 To: LibreO - Users Global users@global.libreoffice.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2013, 0:39
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] is MSFT running scared ...


 Maybe you should give the URL for the Linux-based boot repair disk [.iso 
 file download].  I do not remember it it.

 I have two different disk type/names.

 boot-repair-disk.iso - 355 MB

 ubuntu-secure-remix-12.10-32-bit.iso - 787 MB
 ubuntu-secure-remix-12.10-64-bit.iso - 797.1 MB

 I think I used the boot-repair-disk version since all you had to do was 
 choose your OS version/type you are using.  I think I remember correctly 
 that there was only 4 buttons to choose from once the disk/OS booted up.

 My Dell laptop had 32-bit Vista even though 64-bit Vista was out and 
 working.  Too cheap maybe to include it, since it cost us more for the 
 64-bit version back then.  I just upgraded that dual boot laptop 64-bit 
 Win7 professional from 32-bit Vista and 64-bit Ubuntu 12.10 from 12.04 
 version.  Win7/pro killed the dual booting till I ran the repair disk.  I 
 tend to use the Ubuntu boot for the testing of the newest version of Ubuntu 
 [10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04 to 11.10 to 12.04 to 12.10] before I upgrade it on 
 my production desktop.  I upgraded the Vista to Win7/pro [64-bit] so I 
 can have a working 64-bit Windows OS on one of my systems without going to 
 Win8, since I do not have any touch screens except on my Android 4.0 tablet.

 Actually, I wonder if Win7 or Win8 would break the dual [or triple] booting 
 a laptop if both boot partitions were running a Windows OS before one was 
 upgraded from XP or Vista to Win7 or Win8?  Would Windows break the 
 multi-boot if there would be two+ Windows OSs on the same system but in 
 different boot partitions?

 Windows 2000 was for business based on Win NT, while Win Millennium was for 
 the home user based on Win98.  Millennium was worse than Vista ever was and 
 most users I dealt with switched to Win 2000 till XP [home or professional] 
  came out.

 Win8 look and feel is a reworking of their failed smart phone OS. They 
 decided that they still liked it and moved it to the Win8 tablet OS.  BUT, 
 someone had the bad idea of wanting all of your Windows based systems to 
 look and feel the same.  I do not want my production desktop to have 
 the look and feel of my tablet. I hated Unity's look and feel when it 
 came out in the Spring of 2011.  Win8 seemed to look and feel the same.  I 
 read that a large number of Ubuntu user switched to Mint Linux because of 
 Unity.  If MS would have looked at the fallout when Ubuntu went to Unity, 
 maybe they would have thought twice about using a tablet looking OS desktop 
 display for their desktop/laptop OSs.  I kept Ubuntu, but switched to MATE 
 for the desktop environment.

 For my opinion what business users in my area will do with new Win8 
 systems; not buy them if they can get new Win7 systems or downgrade the new 
 Win8 systems to Win7.  Every business user I have talked to locally hates 
 the look of Win8 and do not want to have to pay for the training to get 
 their users to be able to use it.  XP/Vista to Win7 was a little change, 
 but XP/Vista/Win7 to Win8 was a real big change that needs a lot of 
 training.  TV ads for retail computer stores use to offer free Win8 
 training so people could learn how to deal with the big changes.  

[libreoffice-users] java error

2013-01-22 Thread Paolo Debortoli
hi.  i have found (ubuntu with libreoffice 4.0) a file named 
'hs_err_pid11845.log'  saying:



A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#
#  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x7f5a779caf5c, pid=11845, tid=140025396197120
#
# JRE version: 7.0_09-b30
# Java VM: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (23.2-b09 mixed mode linux-amd64 
compressed oops)

# Problematic frame:
# C  [libc.so.6+0x3af5c]  getenv+0x9c
#
# Failed to write core dump. Core dumps have been disabled. To enable 
core dumping, try ulimit -c unlimited before starting Java again


.

Dynamic libraries:
0040-00401000 r-xp  08:05 41859 
/opt/libreoffice4.0/program/soffice.bin
0060-00601000 rw-p  08:05 41859 
/opt/libreoffice4.0/program/soffice.bin


etc...
etc...

is it a problem with java or with LO ?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] is MSFT running scared ...

2013-01-22 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


The trick is to find the old style PATA laptop drives, or at least one 
that is larger than what is currently in my system.


As for doing swapping of parts, my oldest laptop I currently have 
requires you to remove the keyboard to access things like the memory 
module.  I bought two 1GB mods. and I had to give up replacing one since 
it was under the keyboard and the instructions given my the manual to 
access parts below the keyboard was totally wrong and does not work at 
all.  So I must keep the 256MB in that one and forget about getting two 
mods. installed.  The drive was in too tight to remove safely.  At least 
the Optical drive was only two screws, since I have had to replace it 
twice during the warranty time.


I know one Win7 laptop my friend has that used two drives to give him 
more space than other systems have.  I would love to replace my oldest 
laptop's drive larger than the current 80GB and my dual booting one 
needs a larger one than the 160GB drive.  Having Win7 and Ubuntu 
12.10.MATE on one small drive, does not leave much room for larger data 
files.  I rather not buy an external mobile drive that was made to be 
used with laptops.  I rather not have to make sure that an external one 
is hauled around in a bag with the laptop, packing and unpacking, etc..  
It would be much safer to have the data internally to the system.



On 01/22/2013 03:16 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote:

Webmaster,
Not always true.  My HP laptop, admittedly old, has a hard drive that 
can be removed fairly easily with a screwdriver.  The trick is to have 
a spare drive and mounting frame to install.

Girvin Herr


webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:


That unplugging does not work when you deal with a laptop though.


snip





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Re: [libreoffice-users] is MSFT running scared ...

2013-01-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
The trick is finding the easiest fastest answer for whatever hardware, 
resources and experience you have at the time.  The best answer for a normal 
desktop is not likely to be best for a netbook and the best answer for a 
netbook is likely to be over-complicated compared to other answers available 
for a normal desktop.  For a normal desktop it's just;
1.  about 2 screws and 1 unplug to avoid needing to fix anything

2.  If you still have a distro's Cd/Dvd or Usb then you can fix it from there.  

Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2013, 23:35
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] is MSFT running scared ...
 

The trick is to find the old style PATA laptop drives, or at least one that is 
larger than what is currently in my system.

As for doing swapping of parts, my oldest laptop I currently have requires you 
to remove the keyboard to access things like the memory module.  I bought two 
1GB mods. and I had to give up replacing one since it was under the keyboard 
and the instructions given my the manual to access parts below the keyboard 
was totally wrong and does not work at all.  So I must keep the 256MB in that 
one and forget about getting two mods. installed.  The drive was in too tight 
to remove safely.  At least the Optical drive was only two screws, since I 
have had to replace it twice during the warranty time.

I know one Win7 laptop my friend has that used two drives to give him more 
space than other systems have.  I would love to replace my oldest laptop's 
drive larger than the current 80GB and my dual booting one needs a larger one 
than the 160GB drive.  Having Win7 and Ubuntu 12.10.MATE on one small drive, 
does not leave much room for larger data files.  I rather not buy an external 
mobile drive that was made to be used with laptops.  I rather not have to make 
sure that an external one is hauled around in a bag with the laptop, packing 
and unpacking, etc..  It would be much safer to have the data internally to 
the system.


On 01/22/2013 03:16 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote:
 Webmaster,
 Not always true.  My HP laptop, admittedly old, has a hard drive that can be 
 removed fairly easily with a screwdriver.  The trick is to have a spare 
 drive and mounting frame to install.
 Girvin Herr
 
 
 webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
 
 That unplugging does not work when you deal with a laptop though.
 
 snip
 
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] First occurrence of a negative number in a column

2013-01-22 Thread Brian Barker

At 22:57 22/01/2013 +0100, Kolbjørn Stuestøl wrote:
Is there any way to find the first occurrence of 
a number less (or greater) than a given number 
in an unsorted array or a column?
Example: A1:A31 contains a list of temperatures 
a given month. I would like to find the first 
day the temperature is below 0 degrees (metric).


What happens if there is no day in the month when 
the temperature was negative?  Let's say you want 
the value zero for the resulting day number in this case.


This is a little messy, but it works:

o In B1, enter =A10 and fill it down the column 
to B31.  This generates TRUE for your negative values and FALSE otherwise.


o In your result cell, enter 
=N(MATCH(TRUE;B1:B31;0)) .  The MATCH() function 
searches for the first TRUE value in the column B 
values and returns the relative position in the 
array of the first match.  (Note that this is not 
necessarily the row number, though will be in 
your example.)  This would return the #N/A error 
if there is no negative temperature; the N() 
function makes no change to real dates but converts this error to zero.


You may choose to hide column B, of course - or 
you could put its values away somewhere else on 
the sheet or even on a different sheet.


Incidentally, you are unlikely to get 
temperatures below 0 degrees (metric), as the 
SI temperature scale is kelvin, and its zero is 
the absolute zero of temperature!  But yes: I 
appreciate that you mean the celsius scale.  ;^)


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker



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Re: [libreoffice-users] java error

2013-01-22 Thread Gabriel Risterucci
This is a dump file, made when the JVM crash.

If you have regular crash, it can be helpful to find the cause. If you
found only one, it mean only one crash, so it's probably not a big problem.

To answer your question, it's complicated to tell who is at fault for this
one: it seem that a call to getenv() caused a segfault, which seems odd.
Only cause I can see for this is calling getenv() with a NULL value, which
would be quite hard from a Java program since the call should be wrapped by
the JVM, but it's not impossible either.

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2013/1/23 Paolo Debortoli paolo_debort...@yahoo.com

 hi.  i have found (ubuntu with libreoffice 4.0) a file named
 'hs_err_pid11845.log'  saying:


 A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
 #
 #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x7f5a779caf5c, pid=11845, tid=140025396197120
 #
 # JRE version: 7.0_09-b30
 # Java VM: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (23.2-b09 mixed mode linux-amd64
 compressed oops)
 # Problematic frame:
 # C  [libc.so.6+0x3af5c]  getenv+0x9c
 #
 # Failed to write core dump. Core dumps have been disabled. To enable core
 dumping, try ulimit -c unlimited before starting Java again

 .

 Dynamic libraries:
 0040-00401000 r-xp  08:05 41859 /opt/libreoffice4.0/program/**
 soffice.bin
 0060-00601000 rw-p  08:05 41859 /opt/libreoffice4.0/program/**
 soffice.bin

 etc...
 etc...

 is it a problem with java or with LO ?

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