Re: Assistance re:scam

[Fernando Cassia]

On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 at 10:33, Steve Norton  wrote:

> This is sad.  I would just about wager that the media you received or
> website was loaded with malware.


“Open Office cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified”
It doesn' t necessarily mean the OO code had malware, just that it was an
unsigned executable. Windows 11 now also prevents unsigned apps from
running, by default, showing a "blue shileld" screen.
This happens to totally legit and safe apps, like Coolterm
https://freeware.the-meiers.org/

On Win11, you disable it using the Local Group Policy Editor (gpedit.msc).

On Mac, the procedure is outlined here
https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/mac-help/mh40616/mac

FC

Re: OpenOffice interface

[Fernando Cassia]

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 16:00 Fernando Cassia  wrote:

> Some of us like CUA menus.
> A properly designed user interface that can be navigated with mouse clicks
> or (for me, most of the time) keyboard shortcuts.
>
> EG alt-f then using the cursor Keys.
>
> If the UI is revamped, that is the day K will stop using AOL.
>
AOO

Aol I stopped using many years ago.
Bloody autocorrect.

FC

>
>
>>

Re: OpenOffice interface

[Fernando Cassia]

Some of us like CUA menus.
A properly designed user interface that can be navigated with mouse clicks
or (for me, most of the time) keyboard shortcuts.

EG alt-f then using the cursor Keys.

If the UI is revamped, that is the day K will stop using AOL.

Yeah, newer interfaces might look flasher, but are they actually more
useful? Can you navigate them with hotkeys and the cursor keys (arrows)?

I would like to hear any usability arguments...

FC

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 15:04 Elisey Konstantinov <
elisey.konstanti...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> OpenOffice is a very good program, but it seems to me that its interface
> is a little outdated
> I would like the OpenOffice interface to become similar to the interface
> for example WPS Office or Pages
>
> Thank you in advance!
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Re: Mi autorizzate a vendere il vostro software Open Office su CD-ROM?

[Fernando Cassia]

On Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 15:50 Keith N. McKenna 
wrote:

> Fernando Cassia wrote:
> > La licenza del software openoffice è GPL.
> > Risposta breve: sì, puoi.
> >
> > Ecco cosa dice Richard Stallman sulla vendita di software libero
> >
> > https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.it.html
> >
> > FC
> Apache OpenOffice® is licensed under the Apache License Version 2.0, NOT
> GPL
>
> regards
> Keith
>

You're right now Keith. It's even more permissive.

I replied thinking of openoffice.org
releases

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>
> > On Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 07:35 Simone Nardoni  wrote:
> >
> >> Salve, come da titolo mi chiedevo se potreste autorizzarmi a vendere il
> >> vostro software Open Office su supporto CD-ROM?
> >> Grazie e cordiali saluti.
> >>
> >
>
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Re: Mi autorizzate a vendere il vostro software Open Office su CD-ROM?

[Fernando Cassia]

La licenza del software openoffice è GPL.
Risposta breve: sì, puoi.

Ecco cosa dice Richard Stallman sulla vendita di software libero

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.it.html

FC

On Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 07:35 Simone Nardoni  wrote:

> Salve, come da titolo mi chiedevo se potreste autorizzarmi a vendere il
> vostro software Open Office su supporto CD-ROM?
> Grazie e cordiali saluti.
>

Re: Software support

[Fernando Cassia]

On Tue, 7 Nov 2023, 17:16 Gemma Lloyd,  wrote:

>
> Dear Open Office Support,
>
> My grandfather who has used Open office via you and Sun Systems for years
> and worked as an engineer in the tech and electronics sector (ICL,D2D,
> Fujitsu and Celestica) all his life now at the grand age of 81 has issues
> with his eye sight due to macular degenerative disease. I was wondering if
> there is anyway Open Office more specifically excel can be enlarged or if
> there are any accessibility settings or software you know of that could
> help him continue to use his computer at all?
>
> Any help or advice would be most appreciated. Looking forward to your
> response.
>
> Yours sincerely
>
> Gemma Lloyd
>

HI Gemma,

You forgot to say which operating system he uses. Windows, Linux, Mac?

The answer depends on the operating system.

Windows 10 and Windows 11 provide plenty of accessibility features, eg
setting the minimum font size used on the PS and apps.

Or setting High Contrast mode.

For more info on Win10 and Win11 accessibility settings see this Microsoft
support note below
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/make-text-and-apps-bigger-c3095a80-6edd-4779-9282-623c4d721d64

FC

Re: Open Office.org

[Fernando Cassia]

On 07/10/2022, amous78  wrote:
> Dear Open Office Representative:
> I downloaded your version that was supposed to be compatible with my MacOS
> Monterey 12.6 version.  It said I need to contact the developer to get the
> updated version that is compatible with my computer.  Could you please help
> me with this?  Thank you in advance for your assistance.
>
> Sincerely yours,
> Amy Feltz

Dear Amy.

Do you have a M1 based Mac? or Intel?

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Re: Winding OpenOffice down

[Fernando Cassia]

On 23/06/2022, Bret Busby  wrote:
> On 23/6/22 2:20 pm, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>> Cows see a lot of trains pass by while pasturing, and that doesn' t
>> make the cows train engineers.
> I like that.
>
> Are you the source of that one?

Sadly, no.

> That is a proverb worth quoting.
>
> If you are the source, and, you are not quoting someone else's proverb,
> may we have your permission to quote it?

I heard it from Fernando Martin Peña :)), a local film collector and
historian, on his late night TV show, many, many years ago. Probably
circa 2010.

This guy
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4395159/

Cheers!
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Re: Winding OpenOffice down

[Fernando Cassia]

On 22/06/2022, Flaviu Tamas  wrote:
> Why hasn't OpenOffice been wound down & shuttered?
>
> The existence of the website makes users assume that OpenOffice is
> still actively being developed

It is.

> when those users would be much better
> served migrating to LibreOffice.

Speak for yourself. I for one wouldn' t touch LO with a 10ft pole.

> I've seen this conversation several times over the past few years in
> various open source communities.

Cows see a lot of trains pass by while pasturing, and that doesn' t
make the cows train engineers.

> At the very least, a prominent notice that users should use
> LibreOffice on the main OpenOffice site would be nice.

Please, go away,

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Re: Formula

[Fernando Cassia]

The right way to do it is convert HH:MM to seconds. Then calculate
your billing rate PER SECOND (amount / 60), and multiply it with the
first value.

At least that' s how I'd do it.

Hope this helps...
FC

On 09/04/2022, rcrmon...@wi.rr.com  wrote:
> My pay is basically done by the minute. When I record the hours I
> worked, it is expressed 11:55 or 11 hours, 55 minutes. When I record my
> hours in OpenOfficecalc, I currently convert the minutes into fractions
> of an hour--ie 55 minutes=.916--which I'm not sure is accurate. Is
> there a way to multiply 11:55 by a dollar amount--say 9.75 to get the
> exact dollar amount earned or am I doomed to always converting the
> minutes to decimals?
>
> Dennis
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Re: How to recover a accidently deleted manuscript

[Fernando Cassia]

On 13/10/2021, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 19:12:00 -0700
> 100 page manuscript and no timed dated backups? Tut-tut!
>
> Look at the methods set out in this tutorial for recovering deleted files
>
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71=85038

After several years on this list and seeing people "lose" documents by
not following backup copy strategies I think it´d be worth to make
AOO:

1. Automatically save in a Backup Folder dated revisions of every file, eg in

C:\USERS\$USER\DOCUMENTS\
create a folder
C:\USERS\$USER\DOCUMENTS\AOO_TIME_MACHINE

Inside, every document ever opened and edited, would be automagically
saved there every 10 minutes as
¨"C:\USERS\$USER\DOCUMENTS\AOO_TIME_MACHINE\MyDocumentName-backup-MM-DD-YY-HH-MM.ODT"

Machines come with several-gigabyte SSDs with 1TB no longer being the
oddity it once was... so it´s unlikely we´re going to fill up the
users HDD or SSD with  2MB files.

"The maximum file size for Microsoft Word documents that only contain
text is 32 MB. This is true for documents created in Microsoft Word
2007 "
https://www.howtogeek.com/448726/how-big-is-too-big-for-a-microsoft-word-document/

Just my $0.02

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Re: PLEASE DISCONTINUE AUTOMATIC FORMATTING

[Fernando Cassia]

If you Google for "automatic capitalization OpenOffice" the first search
result is this:

*How do I stop OpenOffice.org from changing the first letter of a word to
uppercase?*

   1. Select Tools > AutoCorrect Options and then the Options tab.
   2. Near the top of the list, uncheck the [T] box next to "Capitalize
   first letter of every sentence".
   3. Click OK at the bottom of the dialog to apply the change.

Aug 7, 2018
Best
,
FC


On Thu., 12 Aug. 2021, 21:39 David Cobble,  wrote:

> DEAR OPEN-OFFICE,
>
> THE AUTOMATIC FORMATTING FEATURES ON YOUR SOFTWARE *IS A NIGHTMARE FOR
> WRITERS!*
>
> WE DO NOT NEED IT.  WE DO NOT NEED YOUR PLATFORM MAKING FORMATTING
> DECISIONS FOR US.
>
> I'M SURE I SPEAK FOR LOTS OF WRITERS.
>
> YOUR "DROP CAP" FEATURE KEEPS ASSERTING ITSELF INTO MY WRITING.  WHY WOULD
> YOU MAKE SUCH A FEATURE AUTOMATIC?
>
> *DROP CAPS ARE RARELY USED!  IT IS TOTALLY USELESS TO MAKE THEM
> AUTOMATIC!!!*
>
> __
>
> AND WHY WOULD YOU MAKE AUTO CAPITALIZATION A FEATURE?
>
> *IF I DO NOT CAPITALIZE A LINE OR WORD, IT'S BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT IT
> CAPITALIZED!!!*
>
> *IT IS EXTREMELY AGGRAVATING TO STOP MY WRITING ALL THE TIME TO CORRECT
> YOUR AUTO FORMATTING. IT INTERFERES WITH RHYTHM AND PRODUCTIVITY AND
> CONSUMES MENTAL ENERGY.*
>
> *PLEASE DISCONTINUE AUTO FORMATTING. WRITERS LIKE TO DO THEIR OWN
> FORMATTING.*
>
>
>
>
> *.*
>

Re: PLEASE DISCONTINUE AUTOMATIC FORMATTING

[Fernando Cassia]

You seem to have no problems with writing in all caps, that's for sure.

FC

On Thu., 12 Aug. 2021, 21:39 David Cobble,  wrote:

> DEAR OPEN-OFFICE,
>
> THE AUTOMATIC FORMATTING FEATURES ON YOUR SOFTWARE *IS A NIGHTMARE FOR
> WRITERS!*
>
> WE DO NOT NEED IT.  WE DO NOT NEED YOUR PLATFORM MAKING FORMATTING
> DECISIONS FOR US.
>
> I'M SURE I SPEAK FOR LOTS OF WRITERS.
>
> YOUR "DROP CAP" FEATURE KEEPS ASSERTING ITSELF INTO MY WRITING.  WHY WOULD
> YOU MAKE SUCH A FEATURE AUTOMATIC?
>
> *DROP CAPS ARE RARELY USED!  IT IS TOTALLY USELESS TO MAKE THEM
> AUTOMATIC!!!*
>
> __
>
> AND WHY WOULD YOU MAKE AUTO CAPITALIZATION A FEATURE?
>
> *IF I DO NOT CAPITALIZE A LINE OR WORD, IT'S BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT IT
> CAPITALIZED!!!*
>
> *IT IS EXTREMELY AGGRAVATING TO STOP MY WRITING ALL THE TIME TO CORRECT
> YOUR AUTO FORMATTING. IT INTERFERES WITH RHYTHM AND PRODUCTIVITY AND
> CONSUMES MENTAL ENERGY.*
>
> *PLEASE DISCONTINUE AUTO FORMATTING. WRITERS LIKE TO DO THEIR OWN
> FORMATTING.*
>
>
>
>
> *.*
>

Re: OPEN OFFICE 4.10... ACTIVATION TROUBLES

[Fernando Cassia]

Hi there,

Not a Mac user myself but I found this by googling:

Go to "System Preferences" click on "Security and Privacy"> General tab,
"Allow apps from" click on "Anywhere" and this allows the "Apache *open
office*" program to be *verified* and installed.

Hope this helps,
FC


On Wed., 12 May 2021, 02:23 JEF CAMERON,  wrote:

> HEY,
>
> I just downloaded the latest update of OpenOffice and the download and
> insertion went fine, but when I try to open the app, my iMac says it can’t
> be opened because it can’t be verified, and then it gives me the option of
> moving the app to the trash or cancelling.  How do I fix this - and while
> you’re at it, I haven’t been able to print anything I have in OO for a
> couple years now and I can’t figure out how to fix that either.  Appreciate
> some help here!
>
> JEF CAMERON-HAWKINS
> SAN FRANCISCO CA
> 415 309 0685

Re: AOO PDF Import

[Fernando Cassia]

On Wed., 10 Feb. 2021, 11:21 Brian Barker, 
wrote:

> At 07:46 10/02/2021 -0300, you wrote:
> >I have downloaded and installed the AOO PDF import extension v0.1.0
> >from the extensions web site.
>
> Extensions are the responsibility of their individual authors, not of
> OpenOffice itself.


I know. I just brought this issue in case the extension author is a list
member. Or someone on the AOO Users list knows who he/she is.

And I have no experience with this extension, so
> cannot help.
>

OK. I will reply below anyway...

>
> >I have successfully opened a pdf file and it looks good, allows me
> >to edit a typo generated by the back end server that generates pdf files.
>
> The PDF format is ideal for final versions of documents.


I know what pdf is intended for and that one shouldnt use it for editable
material, only for final destination format. But in some situations, there
is no other option.

It is always
> preferable to edit material at an earlier stage and in a more appropriate
> form.
>


That's something I cannot do as the PDF file is generated on a web server
that I cannot control (the local postal service)

This issue is a typo on the street name and 'null' text shown on apt# and
floor#, it has been going on for ages (2019) and no matter how many support
tickets I open, the issue remains.

So I manually edit the generated PDF files (until now with Abby converter,
which is licensed on a separate desktop PC) and then print the shipping
labels. It's just switching a few characters and it doesn't affect the
label's  bar code or QR code.

My intent was doing that editing directly with AOO on my laptop and not
having to power up the desktop with Abby PDF Converter just to do such a
minor edit.


> >However I'm not sure if I'm using it right. I just opened AOO writer
> >and file->open, selected the pdf file.
>
> It's worth mentioning that you cannot "open OpenOffice Writer", only
> start OpenOffice itself.


This is technically correct, but a bit on the nitpicking side. I selected
the OpenOffice writer icon which launches AOO with AOO writer with a blank
document.

How a document file is opened depends on a
> combination of the extension to the file name and the actual contents
> of the file.
>

Well it turns out that in order to use the above mentioned extension, one
has to select edit->insert->File and select the PDF to edit. Then a Writer
document is created with the pdf content inside.

However the AOO PDF edit extension creates a mess with text overlying the
bar code and text boxes over the QR code.

So in short the pdf parsing when creating a AOO Draw document is better
than the extensions' conversion to hybrid odf/pdf editable file.

FC

AOO PDF Import

[Fernando Cassia]

Hi Users,

I have downloaded and installed the AOO PDF import extension v0.1.0 from
the extensions web site.

I have successfully opened a pdf file and it looks good, allows me to edit
a typo generated by the back end server that generates pdf files.

However I'm not sure if I'm using it right. I just opened AOO writer and
file->open, selected the pdf file.

After a while the pdf comes up, but as a AOO Draw document.

The blurb on the extension reads "best results with 100% layout accuracy
can be achieved with the 'PDF/ODF Hybrid file format' which this extension
also enables"

That leads me to believe I doing something wrong, as currently it won't let
me save the pdf file I opened for editing in this hybrid format at all,
just aoo draw.

I need 100% layout accuracy as this is a shipping label with bar code.

Btw: clicking on aoo-pdf-import (the extension name) on the AOO extension
manager tries to load a code.google.com url that gives a http
error message.

I guess the extension also needs to be updated and the url corrected.

TIA

FC

Re: Status of the former Sun Microsystems "Opendocument filters for Microsoft Office"?

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sat., 16 Jan. 2021, 09:04 Peter Kovacs,  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> According to Wikipedia Microsoft Office supports the ODF standard 1.2
> since 2013.
>
> My cooperate Microsoft Word Version (which is 365) supports the Foirmat
> using Apache POI.
>
> The Microsoft user needs to select Save as and then select the ODF
> Document Format (which would be odt in word)
>
> I think this is currently the best way to exchange files between
> Microsoft Word and OpenOffice.
>

Thanks so much, Peter.

FC

Re: Status of the former Sun Microsystems "Opendocument filters for Microsoft Office"?

[Fernando Cassia]

On 11/01/2021, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
>
> Sun Microsystems used to offer a set of installable Opendocument
> Filters for Microsoft Office. The download page was at:
>
> http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/get.jsp
>
> On Web Archive the last version seems to be v3.0 archived at
> https://web.archive.org/web/20090226123328/http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/get.jsp
>
> But since the binaries weren´t direcly linked there is no way to
> download the installer from archive.org.
>
> Would anyone on this list be so kind as to provide me with filename of
> the installer and sha1sum so I can try to find them on other sites and
> know the installer is "safe" to install and use?


Sorry to answer myself. I found the last version seemed to be version 3.2
A copy is available online at German magazine chip.de at this URL:
https://www.chip.de/downloads/Sun-ODF-Plug-in-fuer-Microsoft-Office_24293087.html
Scroll down to "manuelle installation" below the large blue download
button (do not use that, that´s a chip.de active installer). On the
following page after clicking on "manuelle installation" click on the
large blue button "Download server ChipOnline"

You will get this file: odp-3.2-bin-windows-en-US.exe
File size: 98.621.012
SHA1SUM: a83f6ac435a6d3bd1d74a02a4bc2c088842f4b5f

Direct-download URL was:
https://www.chip.de/securedownload/?lastchange=110520181659=chipderedesign=54419682=54c4eb4b43440a6af31a65ed=chrome==39022=9223_9232_38914_39022=windows=office-erweiterungen==https://=BLUB2=oct2015

(might or might not work if used directly)

Hope this helps someone. I will install and test it later. The
question remains if this was ever open sourced or anyone at ORCL
reading this thinks they might help achieve that.

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Status of the former Sun Microsystems "Opendocument filters for Microsoft Office"?

[Fernando Cassia]

Hi users,

Recently I had a nightmarish experience with trying to edit long
tables on a document originally created with Microsoft Office (the
last version before the Office365 move, I believe it was Office 2003).
It had tables pasted inside of tables... something which was a
nightmare to edit and move properly in AOO.

To make a long story short: I ended up deleting the tables and redoing
those by hand from scratch It worked well.

The issue still remains that I end up editing stuff created on
Microsoft Office by users whom, per company policy, must use the
installed copy of Microsoft Office and do not have administrative
rights to install other software.

I can edit those documents fine with AOO 4.1.8, save as ODT, and then
when I have a final copy, e-mail back the document saving it in .DOC
(Word97,Word2000, WordXP, or words to that effect).

In my last exchange with this office, I emailed .DOC documents that
looked perfectly on my AOO 4.1.8  (and which started as DOC documents
emailed to me), only to be told that the returned document "missed all
the margins" and had to be re-edited by them on MS Office.

So, I would very much prefer emailing ODT to them for them to open in
Microsoft Office, and then re-save by themselves in DOCx format on
their system...

Sun Microsystems used to offer a set of installable Opendocument
Filters for Microsoft Office. The download page was at:

http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/get.jsp

On Web Archive the last version seems to be v3.0 archived at
https://web.archive.org/web/20090226123328/http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/get.jsp

But since the binaries weren´t direcly linked there is no way to
download the installer from archive.org.

Would anyone on this list be so kind as to provide me with filename of
the installer and sha1sum so I can try to find them on other sites and
know the installer is "safe" to install and use?

And anyone happens to know the legal status of those filters, were
them ever open sourced by Sun? Could they be open sourced by Oracle
now?

Please do not reply "use the AOO fork". Such replies will be ignored. ;)

Thanks in advance.
FC


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Re: emails

[Fernando Cassia]

John,

You need to unsubscribe from the mailing list yourself.

Send an empty email to this address:

users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org

Regards,
FC

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 16:40 BAINES JOHN 
wrote:

> Please stop users sending me emails I no longer subscribe to Open Office
>
>  john baines
>

Re: Possible Violation of Copyright buy 3rd party developer

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 19:47 James Weil  wrote:

> A 3rd party developer, Menial Software (n...@menial.co.uk  i...@menial.co.uk>.,https://menial.co.uk/base/ )
> is marketing a commercial SQLite database for the Mac as a commercial
> product and has named it ‘Base’. This can be at the least, potentially
> confusion to users of your free database product


Aren't you confusing trademarks with copyright?

The is IMHO no copyright infringement unless we are talking about the same
source code being used.

Trademarks, maybe, if someone registered "Base" but it's such a generic
word that I doubt it.

Remember once upon a time the PC/DOS database standard was DBase.

FC

>
>

Re: Is there a FAXing Facility in AOO?

[Fernando Cassia]

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 11:14 WA.TWORSX via AOL 
wrote:

>
> I have a PDF file that contains info that I want to transmit to a FAX
> recipient. If I convert that PDF file, via OCR, would AOO-Writer be
> useful to FAX the document?
>
> Regards, VinceB.
>


What you need to fax us a rasterized (bitmap) version of your document,
ideally in TIFF FORMAT and at 200dpi resolution.

Bullzip pdf printer on windows allows printing to a tiff file.

https://www.bullzip.com/products/pdf/info.php
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Re: I can't use your product...

[Fernando Cassia]

On 10/8/17, zahra a  wrote:
> hi.
> java is required for base.
> if you need for example writer and other component too, they work
> without need java!
> also i need java in openoffice if you need some vizards.
> i dont know any other case that you are required to install java!

Please learn to read the original poster's message before answering drivel.
The OP specifically mentioned using OO Base:

"I downloaded, installed OO4 and started OO Base"
"Well, a'm going to a free Wi-Fi for download MS Access"

"vizards" is also a word not in the English dictionary. I guess you
mean Wizards.

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Re: I can't use your product...

[Fernando Cassia]

On 10/8/17, Jura Rúdnev  wrote:
>Ok, I found out what is
> JRE, downloaded it and restarted my computer... Now I have OO4, Java,
> wasted nearly 400MB of the my 4G internet (is not free!) and your OO4 is
> not working..

Dear "Yuriy"

Your math doesnt add up:

AOO4: v4.1.3 a 124 MByte download
https://www.openoffice.org/download/

32-bit JRE (Java8u144): 54 MB
http://javadl.oracle.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=225353_090f390dda5b47b9b721c7dfaa008135

Total: 178MB

FC
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Re: OpenOffice writer has neither an envelope tab nor a printer setup tab

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On 10/6/17, Abdul Harunah  wrote:
> My version of OpenOffice writer does not have either an envelope printing or
> printer setup features.  The version currently installed in my MacBook Pro
> is 4.1.3.  Can you help me to correct this situation?
>
> Thanks
>
> Abdul

You setup your printer with your operating system.
You can however set print settings by going to the File menu, (Alt-F
if your software is in English language) then selecting "Printer
Settings". [1]

On that dialog box, there's two buttons, one labelled "Settings" and
another "options". [2]
On settings you select general options about what you want printed
(images yes or no, etc). [3]
And in Options the options for the selected printer (paper size, A4,
letter, etc, and which tray to use). [4]

Perhaps someone else can comment on the envelope issue, as I rarely
print envelopes...

Screenshots:
[1]
https://ibb.co/jUwLYw
[2]
https://ibb.co/kZv00b
[3]
https://ibb.co/h2VHfb
[4]
https://ibb.co/enfHfb

The screenshots were taken on Linux but AFAIK OO.o and AOO menus are
the same across versions (Windows and Linux at least).

Hope this helps
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Re: Question

[Fernando Cassia]

On 9/23/17, Steve Ahlers  wrote:
> Right click on a file, chose Open With, chose OpenOffice module from list
> (Writer for text files, Calc for spread sheet files, etc.), check box for
> All Files of this type, chose Open. In the future all files with the same
> extension will be opened with the same application.
>
> Steve

Steve,
Notice Heidi said "from online". That means she isn't opening local
documents but clicking on web page links that make the server send a
MSOffice type file.
Thus, what she is really asking is how to modify the browser helper to
handle MSOffice file downloads.

That, of course, has different answers depending on what operating
system and web browser she is using.

Fc
> Sent from my iPad
>

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Re: Hello

[Fernando Cassia]

On 9/18/17, Eliana R.  wrote:
> I am having a problem with OpenOffice. I am unable to scroll down with my
> keyboard; I have been trying to change the format settings for the past hour
> and nothing has worked. Can you please help me fix this issue? Thank you.
> Eliana

Eliana,

You need to tell us more about your setup. Do you use Windows, Mac, Linux?
What kind of system is this? and what type of document are you working
on, Text document, spreadsheet, presentation?.

What happens when you type text and read the end of the line, the
document should automatically scroll to a new line.

You should also be able to use cursor up/down keys to navigate up and
down the document, likewise with the page-Up and page-Down keys on
your keyboard.

That's why I asked what kind of system do you have, you might as well
be using an Intel based tablet with Windows (such tablets do exist,
althought not as widespread as iPads or Android tablets).

Once you provide more details, someone will be able to help you.

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Re: Android OS and open office

[Fernando Cassia]

On 9/15/17, nina h  wrote:
> Is it possible to get your program for my cell phone? Which version should I
> use?
>
> I have to thank you for creating a program that opens and edits all docs.
>
> Nina

Nina,

I don't know what "all documents" means (text documents only?
spreadsheets too? presentations?).

I would advise against attempting to edit large documents or
spreadsheets on a phone which has a much smaller screen than a tablet.

However, on any Android based tablet with a 7" or larer screen, a
third party port of AOO exists for Android. I have used it succesfully
for months...

Install it from the Play Store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice=en

It gives you the full functionality and user interface as the desktop version.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Thanks!

[Fernando Cassia]

On 8/28/17, a.b...@mindspring.com  wrote:
> Isn't there some way Ed can retrieve what he created?

If the app crashes usually when you restart a dialog comes up offering
you to "recover" your unsaved document.

Something like this
http://cmeimg-a.akamaihd.net/640/ppds/e6df14d1-19f5-47b6-9af6-bd40a717e55b.png

It's been a while since I had AOO crash on a document. Last time I
think it was OpenOffice.org 2.x

btw, I believe this still applies:
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/recover-unsaved-work-openoffice-29581.html

TBH I don't pay much attention to auto-recovery because I learned to
SAVE OFTEN and change filename, to help keep different document
revisions as I go along...

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Re: Thanks!

[Fernando Cassia]

On 8/27/17, Edi Mesic  wrote:
> Thank you.
>
> I just wasted three hours of my life, writing an extensive report. It’s not
> so much about quantity, as it is about quality.
> All the ideas and creativity: completely and utterly lost because your
> program crashes for apparently no reason whatsoever.

That's how you learn to SAVE OFTEN.

Browsers can crash, too. It happened to me many times until I how
regularly hit "save draft" on HTML GMail (I stopped using AJAX GMail
because the new GMail Compose is garbage).

Power glitches can also make your PC reboot in the middle of your
work, too (that's why some people get UPS units, too).

In short: live and learn...

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Re: Diccionario

[Fernando Cassia]

On 3/13/17, Mnc __  wrote:
> Gracias, pero así lo he intentado y nada, ni siquiera en la pagina hay uno
> en español como tal. Es. Como si no tuviera ningún contenido ningún archivo,
> me he bajado el italiano y latino y nada.
>

Por favor leer hasta el final, donde incluyo los links a capturas de
pantalla (screenshots).

AOO 4.1.3 en español
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/openofficeorg.mirror/4.1.3/binaries/es/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_es.tar.gz?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fes%2Fdescargar%2F=1489458470_mirror=ufpr

Paquete de idioma español para AOO 4.1.3: (por si instalaste AOO en
otro idioma y quieres cambiar la interfaz de usuario a español).
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/openofficeorg.mirror/4.1.3/binaries/es/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Linux_x86-64_langpack-rpm_es.tar.gz?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fes%2Fdescargar%2F=1489458353_mirror=ufpr

No tuve problemas en instalar el diccionario de corrección para
español de Argentiina, desde aquí.

http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/diccionario-espanol-argentina-sinonimos-y-separacion-silabica

Notarás que luego de instalarlo,[1] cuando vas a
Herramientas->Opciones->Opciones de idioma en el menú desplegables de
"idiomas del documento" me aparece "Español (Argentina) con un tilde
al costado, eso significa que el corrector ortográfico de ese idioma
ha sido instalado y está disponible para su uso. Y de hecho funciona
[3]

El diccionario equivalente para el Español de España se encuentra aqui
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/projectrelease/diccionario-de-correccion-ortografica-separacion-silabica-y-sinonimos-en-espanol-67

[1] https://image.ibb.co/cq4swF/dictionaries_argentina.png
[2] https://ibb.co/jcKZbF
[3] https://ibb.co/kgN9Aa

Espero te sea de ayuda.

FC
PD: El idioma de esta lista suele ser el inglés, pero como has visto
nos las arreglamos igual para contestar en otros idiomas. Igual, si
quieres asegurarte respuesta, trata de escribir tu pregunta en inglés,
o usa el traductor de Google (http://translate.google.com) para
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Re: Diccionario

[Fernando Cassia]

On 3/13/17, Mnc __  wrote:
> Buenos días, estoy intentando localizar el diccionario de Español en el
> programa, que se supone que está instalado junto al OOffice, pero no
> funciona, no tiene cargada ninguna palabra y no corrige ningún texto. Que
> tengo que hacer???

Aqui se describe (está en inglés pero las opciones no serán difíciles
de comprender)

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Adding_More_Languages#To_Add_More_Text_Languages_.28OOo_3.2C_StarOffice_9.2C_or_AOO_Version_3.4.x.29

Debería ser "Herramientas -> Idiomas -> Más diccionarios On-Line"...
luego bajar el diccionario del idioma deseado deseado e instalarlo.

Saludos
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Re: contact me to help me with apache open office

[Fernando Cassia]

On 3/10/17, Gene Riddell  wrote:
> my open office is no longer working properly. i cannot force/quit it. i can
> be reached after 5pm friday eastern standard time. 7277299749.

Gene,

Welcome to this mailing list. A mailing list is an e-mail based
discussion group, for the community of users to exchange questions and
answers. Last time I checked, there's no phone support for AOO.

If you could write that e-mail asking for help, you surely can
continue reading and writing more emails to tell us about your
problems with AOO so that someone can help you with your problem.

Why insist on a phone call? it's usually much slower, as the person on
the other side has to first figure out what operating system you use
(PC running Windows? what windows? PC running Linux? Apple ?). It's
much easier if you could begin by providing that information over
email to the list.

Best regards
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Re: What is the oldest Linux that AOO can run on? Is there a policy wrt baseline libraries/distro release?

[Fernando Cassia]

> For the current 4.1.x series the baseline is so far going to stay CentOS 5.x;
> They will need glibc >= 2.5; this requirement is deliberately chosen  so that 
> it is satisfied by
> virtually all Linux-based desktop systems available today.

Thanks Andrea. That was exactly what I was looking for!.

FC

On 1/19/17, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 13/01/2017 Fernando Cassia wrote:
>> I wonder what are the older Linux version that AOO-current (whatever
>> is the latest version) will run on?
>
> Version 4.1.3 is built on CentOS 5 with glibc 2.5.
>
>> And I'm trying to create a VM with the oldest possible, still
>> supported Linux version, with AOO on it.
>> CentOS 5.5 is still a target platform?
>
> We use the latest CentOS 5, so this would be CentOS 5.11. But binaries
> will work on all the CentOS 5.x series and everything newer than it
> (which basically means any modern, non-modern and even quite old
> Linux-based desktop system).
>
>> And going forward, what do you plan to use as a base? is there a
>> policy? like "the oldest version of CentOS still supported"? or
>> "latest CentOS -1" or what?
>
> For the current 4.1.x series the baseline is so far going to stay CentOS
> 5.x; I expect we may want to revise this after 4.1.4 is released, but
> for the moment this was not discussed.
>
>> Or are the AOO Linux binaries just expected to work on any Linux
>> regardless of glibc version?
>
> They will need glibc >= 2.5; this requirement is deliberately chosen  so
> that it is satisfied by virtually all Linux-based desktop systems
> available today.
>
> Regards,
>Andrea.
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What is the oldest Linux that AOO can run on? Is there a policy wrt baseline libraries/distro release?

[Fernando Cassia]

I wonder what are the older Linux version that AOO-current (whatever
is the latest version) will run on?

I'm not concerned too much about kernel but glibc which is a common
cause of hassles.
And I'm trying to create a VM with the oldest possible, still
supported Linux version, with AOO on it.

CentOS 5.5 is still a target platform?

And going forward, what do you plan to use as a base? is there a
policy? like "the oldest version of CentOS still supported"? or
"latest CentOS -1" or what?

Or are the AOO Linux binaries just expected to work on any Linux
regardless of glibc version?

Thanks,
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Re: OpenOffice using NetBeans plaform

[Fernando Cassia]

On 9/18/16, Martin Groenescheij  wrote:
> Sorry guys this is a user mailing list and as a user I'm only interested
> in functionality
> the technical aspects should be discussed at the dev mailing list

You are right. Sorry for the noise.

End of this thread as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: OpenOffice using NetBeans plaform

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton  wrote:

>  1.43 GB (1,541,226,333 bytes) of text in
>  60,955 files, in 6429 folders
>

wow, thousands of folders!! that already scared the s--t out of me. Folders
are hard to port. And the 1.43 gigabyte figure of TEXT FILES expanded to
the full number. mind-blowing-ACHIEVED.
*sarcasm* *sarcasm*.

Of course, a straight port to Java would be difficult. But IMHO that'd not
be the right way to approach it.
The right way to approach big problems is to divide them into little
problems that are easier to solve.

What does an Office suite do? Open office files and display them. Then
allow users to edit them, and save them. (also, print them). ;)

So what is the most easily postable part of a big office suite? I/O of
course. Loading documents into memory and saving them. That requires no UI.
That (ODF input/output libraries) would be IMHO the first target to attempt
to isolate and port. Then once that is achieved it could be attempted to
create a Java based AOO Document VIEWER (that just displays a document not
edit it). And finally the biggest hurdle would be to replicate (if porting
is not possible) as much as possible the AOO GUI / behaviour using Netbeans
Platform components / widgets.

But of course it'd d take slow, small incremental steps until reaching the
desired goal.

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Re: OpenOffice using NetBeans plaform

[Fernando Cassia]

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton  wrote:

> I don't understand what that means.
>
> I thought NetBeans is an IDE with an extensive collection of plug-ins.
>

Netbeans also provides its own framework, Netbeans Platform, which also
includes its own widget toolkit

https://netbeans.org/kb/trails/platform.html

They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so...
https://twitter.com/raminonstuff/status/764781458091307008

In fact, not too long ago, someone created an office suite using
Netbeans... just for kicks, it was dubbed "JoeOffice" and he did it all by
himself in record time. So, yes, it'd be possible, technically. Everything
is possible, technically... in other words "everything works in theory"


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Re: AOO crashes on applying styles

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Johnny Rosenberg 
wrote:

> I mentioned it here a few years ago but
> the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware
> completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything
> except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem persists,
> so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least.
>

Sounds like bad bug triage. That kind of error -if it can be reproduced by
you- should be easy to reproduce and confirm by devs. Did you provide
sample documents?

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Re: Java

[Fernando Cassia]

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 8:11 PM, toki  wrote:

> I take it you have never had the pleasure of using Apache OpenOffice
> with either _Window Eyes_ or _JAWS_ and a Braille Display Monitor.
>
> Hint: it doesn't work.
>

First you claimed the lack of accesibility APIs as an argument against the
move of AOO to JavaFX. I replied that there IS a JavaFX accesibility API
starting with Java8u40
https://t.co/ms5rgKJyNK

So, following your logic, AOO should stay C++. But then you claim in the
paragraph above that AOO doesn't work with accesibility software either.

Strange logic, I say.

Opinions are like arseholes. Everybody's got one.

FC

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Re: Inquiries

[Fernando Cassia]

[This somehow landed on the dev list]

On 8/28/16, John Yoko Ono Lennon  wrote:
> Does Apache have
> Old English font available?
> How stable is it?
> I have used WPS but it always collapses.
> Upgrade costs?

Apache Open Office uses whatever fonts you have installed on your system.
Once you have a new font installed on your system, AOO will show it,
and you will be able to use it in your documents.

This web site has 44 Old English fonts available for free download
http://www.1001fonts.com/old-english-fonts.html

I have downloaded e.g. Canterbury fonts from the above page, extracted
the .ttf to the fonts folder on my system (since I use LinuxMint, a
variant of Ubuntu Linux, I used as destination the fonts folder
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice - but if you use Windows it's
usually c:\windows\fonts, on Mac, check your OS documentation, I can't
help you with fruity OS), and lo and behold, I could use it on my AOO
text documents, just by selecting the font name from the drop-down
menu.

Here is a screenshot:
https://s12.postimg.org/ul6oec2ul/font.png

Hope this helps. Good luck!
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Re: Research for School

[Fernando Cassia]

On 8/13/16, Yvonne Simmons  wrote:
> Hello,
> My name is Yvonne Simmons and I am doing some research on word processors
> for school and I was wondering if you could help me out? Would you be
> willing to give me three similarities and three differences between your
> program and Microsoft Word I would highly appreciate it. Thank You for your
> help.

Hello Yvonne.

While it's nice that you are here and willing to interact with the
Apache Open Office users community as a learning exercise, it's not so
nice to ask for others just to reply to your assignment questions ;).

In other words, you should be able to figure differences by yourself
just by reading the Wikipedia entry for each program (eg: Wordperfect,
Apache Open Office Writer, and Microsoft Word). And even better, if
you took the time to install each program and test it  on your own.

I will give you some clues, which will surely help you get started:

1. Apache Open Office is available in a version for the Linux
operating system in addition to Microsoft Windows and Mac OS X.
Microsoft Word does not have a Linux version.
2. Cost: Microsoft Word is not free, Apache Open Office is...
3. Think about the source code, and if modifications to the program
are alllowed on each word processor.

Oh, gotcha, I almost filled all 3. ;-)

Of course, if you start using each you will also notice other
differences with regards to the user interface.

Good luck.
;-)

FC
Buenos Aires, Argentina.

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Re: Differences Between Using Open Office Writer with OS X instead of Windows

[Fernando Cassia]

On 7/13/16, William Sullivan  wrote:
> Is anything published about these differences?
>
> Is there a forum for users on OS X?
>
> Is there a forum Moderator who uses OO Writer with OS X?
>
> I have submitted a problem to the forum, but all the response I get is from
> people using OO Writer on Windows and they cannot understand the problem.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Bill Sullivan

Bill,

When Stardivision Gmbh, a German software firm headed by Marco
Boerries started making its StarOffice suite available across
different PC and Mac platforms, they quickly realized they needed to
support several operating systems at once with little reprogramming
and visual differences (for the user). So they ended up creating a set
of graphical components for "StarOffice" that looked the same and
worked across the several supported operating systems (back then,
Windows, Unix, OS/2, etc). They called that "framework as "StarView"
(1)

Then came Sun Microsystems which bought Stardivision and created Sun
StarOffice and OpenOffice.org opening up the source code. It included
further cross-platform abilities like separation of the different apps
that make the "offic suite" into components (2).

Then Oracle bought Sun and then after a revolt by a group of external
programmers, Oracle decided to hand over OpenOffice.org to the Apache
Software Foundation.

All the above is to say: the cross-platform fundamentals remain the
same on today's AOO. It has and continues to look and behave the same
no matter what OS you use. There is little if any retraining to be
done when moving across AOO running on different operating systems.

The programs should work and behave the same no matter what the
underlying operating system youu are using.

FC
(1)
http://www.drdobbs.com/cpp/examining-the-starview-application-frame/184409128
(2)
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/co-uno.html

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Re: #############################################

[Fernando Cassia]

On 6/15/16, Sean Keough  wrote:
>  A few days ago I opened
> up the program, clicked on the file and instead of 15 pages of diary I have
> 15 pages of hashtags.
>  
> ##
>   and so on.
> What can I do?  How do I recover the doc?

Questions:

1. Do you have a cat? kids?
2. Could it be possible that you left the computer unattended and
someone or something could have just pressed keys on the keyboard
randomly until selecting all text and erasing it?

In short: it's never a good practice to have all your data on a SINGLE
document. It's better to have new files saved with every revision. If
it's a daily edit, use the "Save As" function regularly to save the
file with a new name, e.g. "seans-journal-jun16.odt" and the next day
"seans-journal-jun17.odt" and so on. That way in the event you lose
one version you don't lose ALL text just the data you added in the
last day.

This would be a good practice, going forward...
I'm sure you will learn this valuable lesson on data redundancy in the
case you end up finding all your typed data is indeed lost forever.

FC
PS: also, regularly making copies of your documents to an external
media (flash card) or to the cloud (Google drive, Microsoft's Skydrive
(now renamed OneDrive), Dropbox, etc) is a good idea to protect
yourself from hard drive / SDD hardware failure.

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Re: Java

[Fernando Cassia]

On 6/3/16, suhail ansari  wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, I have a suggestion that Apache OpenOffice should be re written
> in java because java is available on all major server and desktop operating
> system. Google recently switched to OpenJDK for Android development and
> there is a project http://openjdk.java.net/projects/mobile this will port
> OpenJDK to android, ios and Windows phone. It will be easy for open office
> to port to different desktop, server and mobile operating systems.

Your proposal has been made before. I like it. But, like last time,
surely a handful of individuals on this list with an axe to grind
against Java will vote against it.

In fact, it makes so much sense now as it did 6 years ago. it was
Oracle's idea to rewrite OpenOffice.org into JavaFX, before the
"Freedom Fighters" who opposed the dual-licensing scheme of
OpenOffice.org (which allowed for the derivative StarOffice w
propietary add-ons), made their move and led Oracle to hand over OO.o
to the Apache foundation and lay off all its paid developers.

Oracle sees future of JavaFX with OpenOffice
http://www.fhshh.com/oracle-sees-the-future-of-javafx-with-openoffice.html

"At the JavaOne conference, Larry Ellison has sent a message to the
developers of the open source project, encouraging them to quickly
build libraries for JavaFX. This development language, introduced as a
competitor to Adobe AIR and FLex, and Silverlight (Microsoft) in the
design of rich Internet applications (RIAs)".

Unlike the situation at that time, now JavaFX can be made to work
inside browsers without plug-in via solutions like GluonHQ
https://mobile.twitter.com/JavaFX_Hulk/status/737541368067690497

...So, Oracle's idea -had it succeeded and not being stabbed in the
back by the LO Fork- would have meant that today there would be OO.o
and/or StarOffice on every mobile phone and tablet...

FC

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Re: Apache Open Office v. 4.1.2

[Fernando Cassia]

On 5/3/16, Arnold E. Watkins  wrote:

> it states that the Open Office works with Windows 8, but there is no
> mention of Windows 10.  My questions is does it work with Windows 10?

Windows always maintains backwards compatibility.

Even apps compiled for Windows NT 4 released 20 years ago work
seamlessly on today's windows 10.

Unless we're talking low-level software that install drivers, which
isnt the case for an office suite.

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Re: Open Office Writer UTTER , UTTER Rubbish (or not)

[Fernando Cassia]

On 3/16/16, Urmas  wrote:
> "Darren Myers":
>
>> I shouldn't have to delete a profile and re-create it and go through that
>>
>> pain in order to get the most basic function working.
>> Open office need to fix this MAJOR problem.
>
> Of course this is a big problem, but OpenOffice is no longer actively
> developed. You should switch to LibreOffice, they fixed that extensions bug
>
> 2 years ago.

And this, I suspect,was the whole purpose of this thread.

Shame. Get over it LO freedom fighters, some of us are never gonna
switch, specially due to these FUD dirty tricks of yours.

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Re: please

[Fernando Cassia]

On 1/27/16, John Hart  wrote:
> The math was way off, the point wasn't. Most mail lists have unsubscribe
> links that aren't so problem prone.

What is exactly, "the problem" and what do you propose to fix it?
I dont see anything different in the way this mailing list works
compared with others.

No one can help users who cannot READ the automatic notification they
get after requesting to unsubscribe. Without this
verification/clicking step, anybody could unsubscribe anybody else
from the list. That's the way mailing lists work.

To me the problem seems to be people who join a mailing list without
knowing what a mailing list is or how it works. Tha's why I suggested
we make it clear on the subcription page that a mailing list involves,
gee, receiving questions and answers from lots of stranges, to your
email inbox. I even proposed changing the wording from "mailing list"
to "discussion list"

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Re: Windows 11

[Fernando Cassia]

There is no such thing as "Windows 11" AFAIK.

FC

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Richard Beeston 
wrote:

> Dear all
>
> Does anyone know if Open Office is compatible with Windows 11.
>
> Thanks




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Re: Subscription

[Fernando Cassia]

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 11:22 PM, toki  wrote:

> Regardless, since Apache Open Office is distributed gratis, it wouldn't
> be charging you for a license.
>
> jonathon
>

Are we considering the slight chance that this might be a case of a
customer running RollAp service on some kind of tablet and it's that this
service which is billed?.

I don't know if RollApp changed the "about box" in any way, so customer
"sees" the "Open office" running on his/her "tablet", and assumes it was
"installed there" when in fact the app is running on the cloud, and what is
installed on the tablet is just the launcher.

Just thinking aloud.
FC


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Re: Open office for iPad

[Fernando Cassia]

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Robert Kemp  wrote:

> And I have to install 'rollApp' to use it but how do I get it all together
> to use?


What do you mean by "get it all together"?.

Apache Open Office runs on Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, and several flavor of
Unix, always on Intel x86 and compatible hardware -which includes AMD
CPUs/APUs.

The iPad device from Apple doesn't use either OS-X operating system nor an
Intel or AMD CPU, but rather an ARM based CPU. So Apache Open Office cannot
run on iPads.

This "rollApp" is a product/service of a different entity/company, allowing
you to run a virtualized x86 app on the cloud, from your iPad, and you
should really take questions to them, not here, as this list has nothing to
do with rollApp's service.

https://getsatisfaction.com/rollapp/

Hope this helps.
FC


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Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 released

[Fernando Cassia]

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Larry Gusaas 
wrote:

> He may have javascript disable on his browser.


That is one good point. Specially since there´s been a lot of press given
to extensions that disable javascript, like NoScript for Firefox, and
others.

This site is specially useful, it will show you right at the top in one big
box if Javascript is enabled or disabled.

https://www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/is-javascript-enabled

Btw: maybe the download page could be tweaked to include <.NOSCRIPT.> tags
and the message "This page needs JavaScript to function, please enable it"
between em?
FC


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Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 released

[Fernando Cassia]

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 5:31 PM, jd1008  wrote:

> Javascript is evil..
> It is used to spy on your browsing activities.
> Not saying that openoffice.org's JS does that.
> Most websites install multiple javascripts on your computer.
> I asked a knowledgeable and savvy individual what did Sun Mucrosystems
> mean by "sandbox". He said "your entire machine".
>

You are confusing Javascript with Java. Different languages, different
implementations. JavaScript is a Netscape invention. Java is a Sun
Microsystems invention.

Most websites nowadays use JavaScript, not Java. GMail uses JavaScript, as
do all "AJAX" sites.

Java is rarely used on "web sites". Nowadays. Java is used on the server
side (Twitter runs atop Java - OpenJDK on their servers), or on desktops,
for full blown desktop apps, outside the browser (Think: the Vuze
bittorrent client, vuze.com, Jitsi, the open source Skype alternative, etc).

Regards,
FC
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Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 released

[Fernando Cassia]

Here is a screenshot of what the download page looks like and where you
should click to download it.

http://s22.postimg.org/f9vo1hdz5/aoo_download.jpg

FC

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 6:57 PM, V. & B. Electric <
victorbrasove...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> I was trying to download the Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 new ver. released
>  from below link: "
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/; but there is no download available.
> Could you tell me if it is really available or not.
> Thank you for your time.
> Regards,
>
> --
> *Victor Brasoveanu*
>



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Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 released

[Fernando Cassia]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Dale Erwin 
wrote:

>   It really annoys me how sourceforge puts all those other download links
> on the open office download page


Those are most of the time not links, but advert banners.

Big difference. Web users should learn to know the difference between a
regular text link, a web page button and a bitmap (image) with text written
on it. Just hovering the mouse cursor over an banner image will usually
tell you (by looking at the browser's status bar) where that takes you if
you click.

In fact if you read the TEXT on the Sourceforge page it tells you that the
download is starting automatically in 5 seconds.  "Your download will start
shortly" followed by "Your download will start in 5 seconds". Which
counts down to zero when it finally starts.

I have installed an adverts blocker in my browser so I don't even see
whatever 3rd party advert banner the site might want to show me.

See this screenshot for what I mean:
http://s28.postimg.org/5v08sx5yl/adverts.png

(on the screenshot I was downloading another program, not AOO, but the
point is made)

FC

PS: Every time I see someone saying "you should ditch Sourceforge" I'm
forced to repeat the same: Sourceforge.net has one feature that IMHO all
other alternatrives lack, namely LOCAL MIRRORS. I'm down in Argentina and
the nearest SF.net mirror is in Brazil, so my download is initiated from
the Brazilian mirror. SF.net has local mirrors all around the world
Link for a list of mirrors:
http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Mirrors/

...which means users get faster downloads and ISPs do not overload
international pipes.

Re: Your download dialogue box(Extension Manager) is extremely confusing

[Fernando Cassia]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Martin Groenescheij <
mar...@groenescheij.com> wrote:

> and if I tell you that something is confusing, IT IS!


OK, dad. You're always right.
;)

FC

Re: Your download dialogue box(Extension Manager) is extremely confusing

[Fernando Cassia]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Fern Bray  wrote:

> When
> Extension Manager opens, the dictionary is highlighted. It shows 2
> click-boxes: "Disable" and "Remove" as well as "Add" "Check for Updates"
> and "Close"
>

It's English language. Every word has ameaning.
"Add" means to, well, add a new dictionary or extension
"Disable" means to disable a given extension (that you highlight from the
list of installed extensions).
"Remove" means to, gee, remove a given extension (that you highlight from
the list of installed extensions).

And guess what "check for updates" does?
Yes! It checks if a given installed extension has updates, by automatically
checking on the extensions web site.

I have no problem understanding what each button does, and English is not
even my native language!
FC


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Re: An Issue

[Fernando Cassia]

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Grace  Gregg Mountford 
rain...@upnaway.com wrote:

 Does Open Office need Microsoft Visual C++


It doesn't install Microsoft Visual C+++ (which is a compiler/IDE), it just
installs the VC++ RUNTIME libraries, which is a small set of DLLs needed by
any program developed with MS Visual C++.

As described in:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2977003
About Visual C++ Redistributable Packages
Visual C++ Redistributable Packages install runtime components of Visual
C++ Libraries on a computer that does not have Visual C++ installed. The
libraries are required to run applications that are developed by using the
corresponding version of Visual C++.

http://searchsoftwarequality.techtarget.com/definition/runtime

 In some programming languages, certain reusable programs or routines
are built and packaged as a runtime library. These routines can be linked
to and used by any program when it is running.

FC

Re: An Issue

[Fernando Cassia]

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 5:12 PM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote:

 No, however, one thing I learned a long time ago, was to only install
 one app at a time in Windows.  Start one, let it finish, then the next,
 etc..  Otherwise, it gets confused.


Apache OpenOffice does ship with the MS Visual C++ runtime libraries, and
those are installed during AOO install.

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123810

You are right, however, about Windows Installer getting into trouble
sometimes if you try to install several apps at once.

FC


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Re: OO updates

[Fernando Cassia]

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Daniel Sherman dms11...@yahoo.com.invalid
wrote:

 Can we expect OO updates soon or has that function been passed to Libre
 Office?


Libre Office is a different project. This project will never pass any
function to LibreOffice.
This list is about Apache Open Office.

FC

Re: No Longer Using OpenOffice

[Fernando Cassia]

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Well, I always say things like ”I think people are stupid until the
 opposite is proven”, not that I mean it very much, it's just fun to say
 some times… but if the above method really works, then at least some people
 must be really stupid… so I just hope that you are wrong there… :)


FUD is very old in IT circles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt

I saw it happen in the 1990s in the CompuServe forums, Microsoft used the
tactic against IBM's OS/2 Warp.

Do a Google search for Barkto incident.

Barkto incident
http://www.isham-research.co.uk/barkto.html

Then it was repeated against AIM:  Fake security consultant alerting on
dangers of AIM turns out being MS employee

Microsoft Employee's Attempt to Discredit AOL's AIM Backfires
http://www.net4tv.com/voice/Story.cfm?storyID=1335

Microsoft Says Worker Wrote Smear of Rival
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/08/13/business/microsoft-says-worker-wrote-smear-of-rival.html?pagewanted=allsrc=pm

So, FUD sadly continues to be used. Even in FOSS circles sometimes FUD is
used against corporations that are FOSS players by competitors claiming to
be community when they want to wrestle control of a project away from a
firm...

And don't forget another weapon in FUD: sock puppetry...

Even dead people write in support of MS
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20010823slug=microlob23

BM outed as Microsoft´s sock puppet
https://web.archive.org/web/20110830181115/http://www.catchingflack.com/2007/09/burson-marsteller-outed-as-microsofts-sock-puppet/

The fact that MS got caught red handed a handful of times makes you think
how many times they did the same but didn't get caught. :-/

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Re: No Longer Using OpenOffice

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
wrote:

 This mailing list is, as far as I understand, for two main purposes. Asking
 for help and helping other people. I can't see that this post asks for any
 kind of help. Neither can I see that it is likely to ever help anyone, so
 exactly why did you post it?


The purpose of FUDsters is filling support forums with posts telling others
how broken the software is and how by attempting to use it, their life
has become miserable, and they lost time, money, projects and got cancer.

So when a newbie with a slight interest in the software does a web search
and finds the support forum, he seens dozens, better if hundreds, of
horror stories about lives ruined by the software. He then thinks...
hmmm, maybe I should try something else, this software surely looks like a
ticking time bomb!.

Mission accomplished.
FC


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Re: Consulta

[Fernando Cassia]

2015-04-26 13:10 GMT-03:00 Mª Asunción Gutiérrez López 
asgutierre...@hotmail.com:

 Hola
   Mi consulta se presenta sobre lo siguiente, he escrito en openoffice un
 texto en formato . odt ¿además del pc se pueden leer en un mac?
Muchas gracias


Hola Maria,

Esta es una lista en idioma inglés, de todas maneras te respondo (primero
en español después en inglés para que los demás entiendan de que hablamos).

La respuesta es que sí, el formato ODT se puede leer en una Apple Mac
siempre y cuando el usuario tenga instalado Apache Open Office u otro
programa que trabaje con archivos o ficheros ODT.

Si no, puedes exportar tu documento a Microsoft Word (.DOC), desde la
opción Archivos-Guardar Como... debajo del campo donde ingresas el nombre
de archivo hay un menú desplegable que tiene los distintos formatos en que
puedes grabar, uno de ellos es MS Word (doc).

Ver esta imagen: http://tinypic.com/r/2qwhj7m/8

Espero te sirva, saludos!
FC

--- English translation follows---
Hi Maria,

This is an English language mailing list, however, I´ll reply to you in
Spanish and include a translation below so other list members know what
we´re talking about.

The answer to your question is YES, the ODT format can be opened by soneone
who uses an Apple Mac IF he has installed any program able to open ODT
files (like Apache Open Office for Mac).

Failing that, you can export (save) your document into Microsoft Word
(.DOC), by choosing from File-Save as, and selecting from the drop-down
menu below where you enter the file name, the desired file format (in this
case MS Word).

See this image for what I mean: http://tinypic.com/r/2qwhj7m/8

Hope this helps!
FC

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Re: No Longer Using OpenOffice

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 3:37 AM, Blankenship Glenn g.ar...@rocketmail.com
wrote:

 After working hours on my project, then having OpenOffice freeze up and
 shut down,


You don´t say which Apache Open Office version. The latest is 4.1.1. If you
had included what operating system and version you´re using (ie Windows 7
Service Pack 1, 32bit or Windows 8.1 64 bit, or Apple OSX version such.
together which what AOO version you were using (for example: AOO 4.0)
THEN your post could have been considered helpful.


 reopen, “recover” my documents, but then the document not actually being
 recovered, this will be the last time I use this application.  And, yes, I
 had it set to auto-backup every 15 minutes,

Something must be malfunctioning on your system. Do you have enough free
space on the system hard disk (where the temp folder is stored). ?. It is
not usual for Apache Open Office -an application that recently turned 12
years, 9 months, 9 days (from the first Open Office 1.0 release), to crash
a lot and then not being able to recover your work.

In any case, like in ALL applications, saving different versions of your
work regularly under different names (revision 1, rev, 2, etc) is highly
recommended.

yet somehow it recovered no work I had done today AT ALL!  When I view
 the document properties, it shows last being modified 17 hours ago, when I
 actually completed it about 5 hours ago!!  Frustrated beyond belief!!


I feel there´s a patter here about some people who come to this list, only
to complain about AOO crashing in some bizarre total-failure way, then say
that the program sucks, and that they´re never gonna use this program
again. This helps nobody, not other users, not even the original poster who
has allegedly already decided to stop using the program, yet they feel the
need to get on a high horse and ANNOUNCE to the world that they´re going to
STOP USING IT. Well, yea, whatever floats your boat.

It´s just that a google search for your email address finds not a single
reference. So, the paranoid in me suspects trolling.
Of couse, I´m not accusing you of being a troll, but trolls are out there,
only waiting to be found.

FC (Speaking only for myself, and not related with the AOO team in any way,
just a regular user and advocate).

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Re: re apache office

[Fernando Cassia]

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Jean Wickens wick3...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I have had to have it reinstalled several times ,since I first got my
 laptop. Is there any
 explanation for this.


I assume you use Windows. Correct me if I'm wrong.
If you use Windows and you install Apache Open Office, the program will
show up in your Windows Start Menu, under Programs.

The program does not uninstall it by itself. It should stay installed
until you manually remove it from Add/Remove programs under Control Panel.

If you fail to see the programt, do this to check the app is still present
on your system:

Go to the Windows Start menu
Select the option Run...
On the entry box that comes up, type exactly this: appwiz.cpl
and press [enter]

This will bring the Windows add and remove programs
You should see an alphabetically-sorted list of applications in your
system. Scroll down the list until you reach the entries beginning with the
letter O... right there you should see OpenOffice 4.1.1.

Please do this and get back to us telling us if you indeed see the program
listed there.

And next time you see it disappearing. Repeat this procedure and see if
the app is still listed there.

Maybe it's just the desktop shortcut that gets erased from your system (by
you inadvertedly or by other user of the same system). But it doesn't mean
you need to reinstall the app. The app will continue to be there.

I hope this helps.

Best regards,
FC

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Re: OpenOffice 4.1.1. failure to perform

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Kandi kandikountryg...@gmail.com wrote:

 The pages fail to copy  paste correctly.  When I do copy and then try to
 paste
 a single page on to the gmail, only the text pastes not the whole page with
 background.  I am so exhausted I have sat  cried after working day  night
 until 3am  time after time.


You don't copy and paste a presntation into GMail. Email only does rich
text (html) not complex vector graphics like presentations.
What you should do is save your presentation, the attach the presentation
file to your e-mail.

FC
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Re: Request for how to email an attachment without sending all of Open Office

[Fernando Cassia]

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Marilyn Robertson 
employmentmai...@gmail.com wrote:

 However, if I send my resume as an attachment, in PDF or other forms, the
 entire Open Office goes with it so that when you open the attachment you
 get access to everything in my Open Office, including programs, files etc.


That´s not correct. You must be doing something very wrong.

FC

Re: accented characters and regex ...

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Albretch Mueller lbrt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Most of the times I type in English so I don't need to worry about
 accented characters

 Sometimes I need to write up or edit text in Spanish or German, so I
 need to be able to replace accented characters at once.


This is the wrong approach, IMHO. The right approach is to type your
Spanish characters using your English layout keyboard.

How? simple... switch your keyboard configuration to Spanish-Traditional
(in Windows XP to 7, this is done from Control Panel, under regional
settings, click on the Languages tab and then on the details button.

Here is a screenshot:
http://ow.ly/i/71NFU

From XP to Win7 I know this works and I have tested it, in Linux it depends
on your distro how to make the change. Windows 8 and above it should also
work too, but I have no idea if Microsoft has shuffled around the
configuration like they often do).

When you set up your keyboard layout to be Spanish-Tradtional and your
keyboard is of US English layout, the accented characters are easily typed
by using the ' character, followed by the letter you want accented. For
example to type á I have to type first ´ then a, and it becomes á.

To type the ñ character, you just type it directly. The ñ chracter is
produced by pressing the ; key (next to the L).
You will also notice that in this mode, other two important keys change the
character produced, namely  and  which become ; and :

But Windows also allows you to configure a hotkey to switch between
keyboard layouts, so I set up two layouts, first US/English and second
Spanish/Traditional. And I set up the hotkey Ctrl-Shift 1 and Ctrl-Shift-2
to switch between the two.

Again, here is a screenshot of what the config looks like:
http://ow.ly/i/71NGy

Once you get used to this, you'll be switching between the two layouts
effortlessly and at will in the middle of your typing without any major
interruption or even mouse clicking at all.

Note: I live in a Spanish speaking country, Spanish is my native language,
yet, I have NEVER owned a Spanish layout keyboard. All my keyboards are of
the US English layout.

Why? Because the Spanish layout keyboards are a pain to use for programmers
like me, the backslash is often in an akward position, and many characters
that are used all the time for programming often involve one more keypress
or the akward AltGr key to get a character that you get with a single key
press in a US English keyboard.

Hope this helps.
FC
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Re: accented characters and regex ...

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Albretch Mueller lbrt...@gmail.com
wrote:

  Simplest are your assumptions. First, I don't use Windows; second,
 I find myself very often having to use more than one lang in the same
 text; third, at times I use other editors (for coding, for example);
 fourth, I teach, so I can't just write in a messy way to my students
 ...


I told you that the same is possible in Linux.
And I told you you can switch at will between layouts, both in Linux and in
Windows by using a hotkey. But not knowing beforehand what Linux distro you
use, I cannot provide hand holding and step by step instructions for each.

I'm curious however what do you mean about writing in a messy way.
Obviously you didn't understand what I wrote. your students will receive
text looking perfectly find, it's the keys you have to press to obtain
special characters what changes.

Obviously this is not what you wanted to hear.
So, good luck.

FC

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Re: MS Works 8.0

[Fernando Cassia]

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote:

 User support groups are for getting users' job done, not for holy wars.
 OpenOffice cannot do what is needed, period.


The user is asking about Open Office. The second reply directed him to a
converter from Microsoft that allows him to convert MS Works file into Word
format. OpenOffice handles word documents just fine. End of story. If AOO
could not handle a simple doc file with 'recipes it would be ludicrous.

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Re: MS Works 8.0

[Fernando Cassia]

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:

 The best way to open MS Works file is to use LibreOffice,
 http://libreoffice.org/download/

 You can then save them in ODF format and open them in Apache OpenOffice if
 you want.


Could you please use your IDG columns for OpenOffice forks advocacy?

Thanks
FC

Re: OpenOffice is unreliable

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 5:09 PM, geoffrey.schulz @dslextreme.com 
geoffrey.sch...@dslextreme.com wrote:

 For the last time, OpenOffice crashed and deleted all my hard work.  I say
 the last time, because I am uninstalling it and will never use it again!


Open Office has been over 15 years in the making (counting only from the
time Sun Microsystems bought Stardivision) . All software has bugs, and
bugs are fixed. That's why Windows downloads updates via WindowsUpdate
every Patch Tuesday and why Linux is updated all the time via your
package manager/system updater.

If you look in the changelog for the soon-to-be-released version 4.1.1, you
will see several bug fixes related to crashes too.
http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/milestones/4.1.1-rc3-r1617669/AOO4.1.1_fixes.html

Why don't you wait a few weeks and then try the updated 4.1.1? It would be
silly to make a drastic determination based on a handful of nasty bugs that
have been already fixed.

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Re: AOO 4.1 presentation looks fine in AOO, skewed background exported to PPT and played w MS Ppoint Viewer 2007...

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 5:51 AM, johnny smith ka...@krovatka.su wrote:

 if the autofit option does not work properly, you may set the background
 image size directly: open 'format - page - background', uncheck 'autofit'
 and 'original' and set width and height as you wish.

You got it wrong. If I maintain ODP format and use AOO 4.1
exclusively, the background image is always autofit.
But as soon as I save to PPT and load the presentation in MS
Powerpoint Viewer 2007, that autofit is gone...

I don't know the screen size of the playback system beforehand (could
be a dozen different screen sizes). I just want the Powerpoint
export to retain the autofit attribute of the background bitmap.
Currently, that doesn't seem to be the case...

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Re: Please remove my info

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 5:06 AM, tammie elgammal
tammieelgam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 Recently one my students informed me that they were able to read a cover
 letter from a job application.
 That has personal information and I would like to kindly ask that you
 please remove this.
 Thank you,
 Dr.Elgammal

I think you must be talking about part of the information embedded by
AOO in documents your create with your software. That is part of the
document properties. Microsoft Office does the same, as far as I know.

See
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/inspect-documents-for-hidden-data-and-personal-information-HA010074435.aspx

If you plan to share an electronic copy of a Microsoft Office Word
document with clients or colleagues, it is a good idea to review the
document for hidden data or personal information that might be stored
in the document itself or in the document properties (metadata).
Because this hidden information can reveal details about your
organization or about the document itself that you might not want to
share publicly, you might want to remove this hidden information
before you share the document with other people.
(...)

What types of hidden data and personal information are stored in Word
documents?
Several types of hidden data and personal information can be saved in
a Word document. This information might not be immediately visible
when you view the document in Office Word 2007, but it might be
possible for other people to view or retrieve the information.

Word documents can contain the following types of hidden data and
personal information:
(...)
Document properties and personal informationDocument
properties, also known as metadata, include details about your
document such as author, subject, and title. Document properties also
include information that is automatically maintained by Office
programs, such as the name of the person who most recently saved a
document and the date when a document was created. If you used
specific features, your document might also contain additional kinds
of personally identifiable information (PII), such as e-mail headers,
send-for-review information, routing slips, and template names.

The above is for Microsoft's office products but also applies to AOO.

In Apache OpenOffice, go to the menu option File-Properties, and in
the General tab remove the check box from Apply user data.

Hope this helps!
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Re: AOO 4.1 presentation looks fine in AOO, skewed background exported to PPT and played w MS Ppoint Viewer 2007...

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 7:03 AM, johnny smith ka...@krovatka.su wrote:

 i see; it seems to be a bug to file with bugzilla, and a workaround i
 suggest is nothing more than a workaround.

See what I mean:

This is what I see in AOO 4.1 when editing the presentation (notice
the background, from the AOO template)
http://www.imagebam.com/image/bfb67b330098558

This is what the slide looks like in AOO Impress, when played back
http://www.imagebam.com/image/00ca69330098560

And this is what I see when I export to PPT and load the presentation
in the MS Powerpoint Viewer 2007
http://www.imagebam.com/image/f9fb05330098563

Any ideas of what might be going on? Can someone confirm?
I just used one of the built-in templates in AOO 4.1 to start my
presentation

I expected the exported PPT to look exactly the same as in AOO...

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Re: AOO 4.1 presentation looks fine in AOO, skewed background exported to PPT and played w MS Ppoint Viewer 2007...

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Tom Backer Johnsen
bac...@psych.uib.no wrote:
 Save the file from AOO in pdf format.  Then the show can be shown on any 
 machine regardless of operating system, provided the machine has a reader for 
 pdf’s.

Thanks, but no, thanks. My plan is to convert it to video to upload it
to Youtube.

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Re: AOO 4.1 presentation looks fine in AOO, skewed background exported to PPT and played w MS Ppoint Viewer 2007...

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 8:10 AM, johnny smith ka...@krovatka.su wrote:
 so, powerpoint seems to use different units for page sizes and object sizes:
 the centimeters of page width are larger than those of a rectangle width. it
 is quite idiosyncratic, but you have to stay with it. i do not think that
 openoffice should adopt this unnatural measuring convention only to be
 compatible with powerpoint, although some size adjustment while exporting
 may be of use.

 in your case, try unticking the 'format - page - background - tile' box
 and ticking the 'format - page - background - autofit'.

Great sleuthing on your part Johnny!.
I will try your suggestion and report back...

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AOO 4.1 presentation looks fine in AOO, skewed background exported to PPT and played w MS Ppoint Viewer 2007...

[Fernando Cassia]

AOO 4.1 here. XP64

I created a multi-slides (66 slides so far) presentation using one of
the templates.

When I preview the slideshow in AOO 4.1,everything looks fine.

As soon as I export the presentation to MS Powerpoint, and load it in
MS Powerpoint Viewer 2007, the background bitmap, which looked
stretched to fill the whole screen and as such with text centered on
it, becomes 1/3 of the screen on the powerpoint viewer 2007, and as
such text gets overlaid over the borders of the bitmap.

What is going on here?. Obviously something having to do with AOO 4.1
Impress making the background bitmap stretched to fill the screen,
and on the contrary, that attribute is not carried over to the PPT
export, so MS Powerpoint Viewer 2007 just shows the bitmap with its
original absolute pixel size (not stretched) and as a result text gets
over the borders...

Solution?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: WORD COUNTER

[Fernando Cassia]

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Robert Funnell
robert.funn...@mcgill.ca wrote:

 There is a word counter. It's in the Tools menu.

How difficult would it be to include the word count in the status
bar?. I´ve been annoyed by Word users asking for this feature since
times immemorial, back when this was StarOffice 5.x and wasn´t even
open source to begin with.

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Re: Tablets

[Fernando Cassia]

On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Robyn Crawford 53redc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have an iPad.  Can the office be downloaded to a tablet?
 Thank you for your time.


While I´m against user-agent sniffing as a whole, perhaps the
www.openoffice.org page, when loaded from an iPad browser could show a
blurb atop reading Apache OpenOffice is not currently available for iPad
tablets like yours. Followed by

The only tablets supported by AOO are ones running Windows 7, Win8,
Win8.1,
  or any tablet PC device running Linux

I´m thinking of a yellow baloon like:
http://www.bitrepository.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/beautytips.jpg
Sounds good?

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Re: Open Office 4.1.0 - McAfee Couldn't Verify

[Fernando Cassia]

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Issy  Vern verni...@care4free.net wrote:
  McAfee gave me a red shield with a warning that it could not verify the 
 supplier of the software.

I wonder if this is realted to the Windows feature of digitally
signing executables aka authenticode?
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/ms537361%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
http://blog.didierstevens.com/2008/12/31/howto-add-a-digital-signature-to-executables/

Does Apache sign its releases w authenticode? never checked.

In any case, the lack of an authenticode signature is no danger by
itself, if you check the file integrity by other means (ie SHA256SUM).
Although I admit it´d be nice to have Apache identified as a software
publisher via authenticode signature of the executables...

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Re: Shame on you. A message to Terry Lugviel

[Fernando Cassia]

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:55 PM, John Hart jh...@testra.com wrote:
 If the name was open office it means your DNS was hacked and sent you to a
 forged site because downloads from
 the official site don't contain anything but AOO. If the name was close
 and did something illegal it can be shut down.

John,

Let me jump in to add that this has been reported before, specifically
by June 2013.
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=62181

So it seems there must be some bogus site offering AOO with this
findwide add-on bundled.
Now it´d be productive if could find out WHERE it is hosted, to shut it down...

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Re: Shame on you. A message to Terry Lugviel

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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:
 So it seems there must be some bogus site offering AOO with this
 findwide add-on bundled.
 Now it´d be productive if could find out WHERE it is hosted, to shut it 
 down...

For instance could someone please test and confirm if downloading
through this third party downloader doesn´t install any kind of
third party software?
http://openoffice.en.softonic.com/download

It showed up among the top 20 results for googling apache open office

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Re: How do I open spreadsheets in the QuattroPro with extension .wb3 with open office?

[Fernando Cassia]

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Daleep Koshal dal...@ikea.co.bw wrote:

 How do I open spreadsheets in the QuattroPro with extension .wb3 with open
 office?


I'm not aware of QPro w3b filters for OpenOffice, but there's third party
software which claims to convert it
http://www.abadev.com/xls_conv/

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Re: what happened to www.ooocon.org?

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org wrote:

 The problem is that these are tons of GB. My upstream connection in
 Beijing isn't sufficient for that and while I'm in Germany I'm using a
 mobile 3G package with limited volume.



Hi Peter,

You might want to check into this NGB thing.
http://www.telecomstechnews.com/news/2011/dec/07/beijing-correspondent-chinas-journey-broadband-elite/

Best,
FC

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Re: ooffice 4.0.1

[Fernando Cassia]

On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Sonny Angel sonnyan...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

 Updating to OpenOffice 4.0.1 was a mistake, it is not ready for prime time.
 Writer locks up when ever I try to format a page


millions of users disagree with your statement.

That doesn't mean Writer doesn't lock up on your particular system, maybe
it does, but since you provide no further data to replicate the problem,
it's as useful as a car owner saying this car model should have never been
released, it's engine failed when I was driving today.

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Re: AMAZING -- Case of Subscription via a Remailer Address [was: Re: Removing yourself from the list :)]

[Fernando Cassia]

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Tom Panfil tap.h...@verizon.net wrote:

 These people *cannot* send from their Remailer Addresses.


They do, if they use GMail SMTP servers which allow setting up aliases
for sending email.

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Re: Reminder: List Conduct Guidelines

[Fernando Cassia]

On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Carmen Putrino carmenputr...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I can't get myself off this list.  I want out!  You are fucking driving me 
 crazy!!

It never cease to amaze me how people subscribe to a mailing list then
proceed to feel outraged to see that their inboxes are filled with
messages from total strangers, discussing some subject that is the
topic of such mailing list.

Out of curiosity, I'd like to know:

- Is it because they don't know what joining a mailing list implies?
(ie receiving lots of emails, until you unsubscribe)
-Or is it because some supernatural power forced them join a mailing
list they know nothing about? (it certainly feels that way, by reading
some get me off this list replies. One has to wonder who subscribed
them in the first place...).

Just curious...
FC
PS: Rob, perhaps renaming mail list to discussion list at this page
http://www.openoffice.org/support/index.html#community-support
can provide a better idea of what joining a mailing list implies?. And
perhaps a paragraph describing what a discussion list is about could
be copied from here?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_mailing_list#Discussion_list

Just an idea...
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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

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On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:

 For major edits (such as relayout or rewrite of the text) you need to use
 an OCR utility to read the text in the PDF


Rory,

There is a fundamental misconception here. A PDF is NOT a bitmap. A PDF,
more often than not, contains the TEXT inside, not a picture (bitmap) of
the page requiring OCR to extact the text.

That is on PROPERLY CREATED PDF files. I've seen lots of people who don't
know what they're doing that just scan pages and build a PDF. In those
instances, YES, the PDF doesn't contain searchable text, just bitmaps
(images) of every page. But that's not a properly created PDF file to begin
with.

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Re: Defective Installation CD

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Samuel Ogle
samuelo...@centurylink.net wrote:
 If it looks to be a label issue, try removing the label and any remaining 
 stickyness

Samuel,

You' ve never done that, or did you? Because if you attempt to remove
a CD label, you'll surely take the DATA LAYER COATING WITH IT. See,
CD-R (and DVD-R) discs have the data layer on the opposite side of the
laser. That is to say, the laser passes THROUGH the plastic
(polycarbonate), and reaches the coating in the back (that is, the
upper side of the disc). Thus, when you put a label on top of a CD-R
(or DVD-R) you're putting glue on top of the data layer, and any
attempt to remove the label will damage it.

As in
http://dlis.dos.state.fl.us/archives/preservation/dvds/graphics/backscratched.jpg

It'd be better for the user to ask for their money back (or a
replacement CD) to whoever sold it to him/her.

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Re: Defective Installation CD

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On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Samuel Ogle samuelo...@centurylink.net wrote:
 I just now found this: http://www.ehow.com/how_5479874_remove-labels-dvds.htm 
  which supports that approach, although not totally the same. Thanks for your 
 response.

It depends on the kind of label, and the strength of the adhesive
Thicker labels made for color inkjets with glossy finish tend to have
stronger adhesives than slimmer labels made for laser printers.

The day I damaged a CD-R trying to remove a label it was a Neato brand
of the glossy finish type for inkjets. The CD-R was also a very low
quality disc, so the dye had little or no protection over the data
layer.

Not all CD-R discs are created equal
http://www.kmgdigitalinc.com/downloads/1906Not_created_equal.pdf

To protect the coatings, lacquer is applied, and high-quality
manufacturers make it nice and thick or will even apply
a separate protective coating. Poor CDRs have very little protection
on the coatings and will scratch easily, or
worse, delaminate. 


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Re: Graph numbers in stats pages need thousands separator

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On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 We're using a 3rd party library for the charts.  I don't see the
 ability to control the number format, other than to enable or disable
 rounding to the nearest integer.  But maybe someone else sees more
 here:

 http://www.simile-widgets.org/timeplot/

  ie 60,000,000 reads beter than 6000
 

 I agree.  Maybe another solution is to rescale the data, so we report
 in units of a million downloads.  So instead of 6000 we have 60.0?


Thanks for the reply Rob.

Glad to know I'm not the only one seeing that. I will file a request for
enhancement for that 3rd party lib on

http://code.google.com/p/simile-widgets/issues/list

Let's wait... maybe the feature will be implemented sooner rather than
later.

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Re: Graph numbers in stats pages need thousands separator

[Fernando Cassia]

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:

 I will file a request for enhancement for that 3rd party lib


Done http://code.google.com/p/simile-widgets/issues/detail?id=499

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Graph numbers in stats pages need thousands separator

[Fernando Cassia]

While looking at the graph in http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html
it was very difficult for me (besides small screen and poor eyesight) to
see if the numbers were 6 million 60 million or 600 million, because of the
tiny text and lots of zeros without separators for thousands and hundred
thousands.

ie 60,000,000 reads beter than 6000

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Re: Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away... (Rampant FUD in FOSS Land)

[Fernando Cassia]

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Scooter scoo...@scootersdesk.com wrote:

 I'm a bit confused.


It shows. Some comments below each of your statements


 What is FOSS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software


  FUD

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt


 and why would any of us think Open Office is pretty much only a memory
 (per Mr Cassia).?


I didnt say that. I quoted an article. And included the URL so that others
could read it in its entirety.

How and why is Mr Cassia in this List group If he detests AOO so much

Please try to understand what you read before you accuse someone of
something. The purpose of my e-mail was to alert the group of yet another
article smearing Apache Open Office. I do support AOO, I use it daily.

The rest of my message, which you failed to grasp, tried to highlight that
the arguments used by some in the LO camp against AOO are the same used by
MariaDB against MySQL, in a nutshell that:

-that a corporation being the main contributor to an open source project is
in itself a bad thing
-that dual licensing is bad (not used against AOO but was used against Sun
OpenOffice.org before, and Oracle after that)
-that AOO contributors were mostly IBMers - MDB accuses MySQL of being
developed mostly by Oracle employees
-that  forking in the name of community gives better results overall for
the health of a project rather than engaging with the upstream corporate
sponsor of it.

I personally think -like Canonical's Shutleworth-
1. that the OO.o-LO fork was an unfortunate event
2. That the split hurt both projects more than it helped
3. That the reasons invoked for the split were magnified, and included a
large dose of FUD (I guess you know what it means by now)
4. That part of the IT press played a role in magnifying Fear, Uncertainty
and Doubt, hence creating a self fulfilling prophecy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy

Those were my thoughts. If high-level historical analysis of events
confuses you, please, dont answer.

;-)

Best
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Re: Wiki editing plug-in?

[Fernando Cassia]

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 Note: it doesn't work with OpenOffice 4 yet, see last comment. But the
 source code should be in the OpenOffice repository, so it's available to
 anybody who wants to take a look.

Thanks Andrea.

I remember trying this one back in the 2.x days and it didn't work,
some issue with login refused.

Sadly this was a common issues with the Sun created extensions... I
remember one for posting directly to Blogger throwing weird errors as
well.

It looked to me at the time that the log-in part was put together
without much thought to making it  as independent of the changes on
the server side as possible, so that the slightest change made the
plugins break. :-/

I hope someone has the time to update both extensions (this one for
wikis and the other one to interface with Blogger) so that those can
work with future AOO versions...

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Re: Wiki editing plug-in?

[Fernando Cassia]

On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, is there a plugin allowing to use AOO to edit wiki articles
 (including tables), and pushing changes back on-line effortlessly?

 If not, there's an idea: there should be.


Options:
1. Thanks for your idea, it's very interesting.
2. I hate that idea, AOO should have nothing to do with wikis.

You're welcome.
FC
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Revolucionario
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Someone is hell bent on seeing AOO go away... (Rampant FUD in FOSS Land)

[Fernando Cassia]

 (and MySQL too, and probably the same that would like for Oracle's
investments in FOSS to end).

LibreOffice, as you know, is now the defacto office suite of choice
among Linux users and is rapidly gaining traction in the Windows world
as well. 
OpenOffice is pretty much only a memory
http://www.linuxtoday.com/upload/oracle-losing-its-mysql-grip-to-mariadb-130916110509.html

Citebite archive: http://pages.citebite.com/l2e1g0y0r4kpb

Apparently the original story has been pulled from FOSSFORCE.COM, but
not before it was widely spread around...

This is the same scenario as when Googles move from MySQL to MDB is
mirrored everywhere, yet Mozilla's decision, on technical merits to
move from MDB to MySQL 5.6 gets no mention whatsoever.
https://twitter.com/sheeri/status/372319624043716608
https://twitter.com/sheeri/status/372099540624478208

Of course, truth is just a small peeble in the shoes of a good FUD
campaign... doesnt stop them. Apache OpenOffice or MySQL: the tactics
are the same, lie,lie, and lie again.

Some of the lies stick and become common, widespread truths repeated
without fact-checking. The rest is herd behaviour and copy-paste IT
journalism. Case in point:http://tinyurl.com/muktware-liars vs reality
http://tinyurl.com/lsvya6f

Or: http://pages.citebite.com/c2u1y0m0q5vti vs:reality:
https://twitter.com/myfear/status/380190532552884225

This isnt healthy. It needs to stop.

In the wise words of Shuttleworth: http://pages.citebite.com/e7v0f3m9sder

Is the Evil Empire of Redmondia behind this campaign to portray IBMers
as inept (Rob Weir has mentioned some of the FUD coming from the ither
side wrt Sidebar and IBMs contributions) and Oracle as evil, when both
firms are investing a lot in FOSS development (in the case of Oracle,
investing a lot in Linux kernel engineers, OpenJDK, Netbeans,
Glassfish, releasing JavaFX 2.0 under a GPL license, Virtualbox,
etc..) Or is someone else behind this persistent FUD? Some firm that
perhaps wants its web services to replace everything else?

Thinking aloud
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Wiki editing plug-in?

[Fernando Cassia]

If you ever tried editing complex tables like this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_tablet_computers
on a wiki using wiki syntax you will soon see that it's a hair-pulling
exercise.

Even with the wikipedia's new Ajax online wysiwyg editor, table editing
is stil not even there.

So, is there a plugin allowing to use AOO to edit wiki articles (including
tables), and pushing changes back on-line effortlessly?

If not, there's an idea: there should be.

FC

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Re: Help I'm being invaded

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:36 AM, LYNN BRUBAKER
lynn.bruba...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 Every day I get about 10 emails concerning how to work Open Office

Lynn,

You, or someone with access to your PC subscribed your e-mail address
to the users@openoffice.apache.org mailing list.

A mailing list is like a web discussion forum, but with each message
delivered by e-mail to your mailbox.

In fact, mailing lists existed way before web based forums, and many
people prefer them to forums.

Now, if you didnt subscribe, someone with access to your PC did.

If you want to unsubscribe (remove your address from the mailing list)
send an empty email to the following address

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After that, you will receive in your mailbox a response e-mail. Hope this helps!
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