Re: [Veritas-bu] Amount of data
Smitha NetBackup GUI comes with a Reports Module, which can assist in telling you what backups were done, for all or a particular client. The Report Modules that may be of use are Status of backups Client backups (probably the one you may like to use) problems with backups (again, handy to know what issues occur with a client) More info on the reports are in the sys admin guide :-) Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pillapalem, Smitha Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:18 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Amount of data Hi all, How do I get the information on amount of data getting backed up in my current environment for both weekly fulls and daily incremental - Thanks, Smitha This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Invalid Images in DSU - How to clear?
Hi, If it is me you're asking this than : I have my script running twice a day, iin the morning and evening. Images listed that are not yet in the catalog registerd can have two reasons : 1)BU job was still running during the check 2)BU was canceled for some reason So first be sure it wat the latter case and than simply delete this I name it Orphan images OK ? Bernard Tel. (32 2 22) 85459 // 0477 390 211 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: dy018 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 1:30 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Re: Invalid Images in DSU - How to clear? Oh i see. The DSU will be a temporary staging area and i'll have a daily vaulting to do duplication to tape. I just need to verify that the images are in the catalog, not necessarily to be duplicated to tape. So can i ask you, if your script happened to verified that the image is not in the catalog, what do you do? I understand one backup job will have serveral files create right? including .img files +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Fortis disclaimer : http://www.fortis.be/legal/disclaimer.htm Privacy policy related to banking activities of Fortis: http://www.fortis.be/legal/privacy_policy.htm = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Amount of data
Don't completely dismiss or accept a product just based on what others have said - test it yourself. One reason to test yourself is that the products are constantly changing (and hopefully improving). When I did my head-to-head testing, it was over 3 years ago. Although one product won handily at the time, that doesn't mean that it still will - there's no way for me to know how well it will work in my environment without doing the tests again and I have no reason to do so. When you evaluate the products, you should also look at the vendor's relationship with Symantec and how fast each responds to new releases. In fact, now would be a good time to ask whether they support NetBackup 6.5 or not, even if you're not at 6.5 yet. You want to be assured that they'll support the new releases before you're ready to upgrade to them. Some products take different approaches than others so they'll work better in some environments than others. Make sure that the product you buy is the right fit for you and not necessarily for somebody else. ./Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I GoodSearch for Bundles Of Love: http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=821118 From: Curtis Preston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:19 PM To: Ed Wilts; Pillapalem, Smitha; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Amount of data The first thing I would say is to use bpimagelist with the appropriate flags. It goes as far back as you have images, and can be told to list particular types of backups. One of the fields is size. I agree that if you want historical reporting, it's easiest if you get a commercial reporting product. There are a number of such products on the market, and they offer some really good functionality that's really hard to get otherwise. The following is a listing of them, alphabetical by product name. (I keep a directory of them and a bunch of other backup-related products at http://www.backupcentral.com/components/com_mambowiki/index.php/Category:Bac kup_Software_Directories .) www.tek-tools.com http://www.tek-tools.com/ (BackupProfiler) www.agite.com http://www.agite.com/ (Backup Visual) http://www.bocada.com/ www.bocada.com (Bocada) http://www.servergraph.com/ www.servergraph.com (Servergraph) http://www.aptare.com/ www.aptare.com (Storage Console) www.symantec.com http://www.symantec.com/ (The new Veritas Backup Reporter, not to be confused with NOM.) www.wysdm.com http://www.wysdm.com/ (WysDM for Backups, also resold by EMC) I would suggest that you decide what you want out of a reporting product first, then take a look at all of these to see which one best fit your needs. Feel free to search the Backup Central forums ( http://www.backupcentral.com/phpBB2 ) for these product names to see what others have said over time. Take all comments with a grain of salt; however, there are a few shills out there. Don't completely dismiss or accept a product just based on what others have said - test it yourself. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:46 PM To: 'Pillapalem, Smitha'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Amount of data If you want history for the last few days, it's not that tough. If you want long-term history, you'll need a reporting product. NOM is free although limited. Commercial products like Aptare's StorageConsole are far more featured and can give you relatively instant reports over long periods - just today I was generating weekly totals for the last year and the reports were popping up in seconds and we run a lot of backup jobs every day. ./Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I GoodSearch for Bundles Of Love: http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=821118 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pillapalem, Smitha Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:18 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Amount of data Hi all, How do I get the information on amount of data getting backed up in my current environment for both weekly fulls and daily incremental - Thanks, Smitha ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Status 70 - filelist expanded to too many characters
Does anyone know what the magic limit is for the number of files specified by a wildcard? I have been unable to find anything in the documentation that specifies the limit. /oracle/share000/archoverflow/chgmad/* This directory expands to 827 files Jared M. Seaton Recovery Administrator Mylan Laboratories Inc. 304-554-5926 304-685-1389 (Cell) == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged, proprietary and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution, duplication or other use of this message and/or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message and its attachments. Thank you. == ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Full Media
Is there a media full flag I can parse via the command line? I'm working on a script for a remote site who only wants to remove full media from the box. I can guestimate based on how much data is on the media but when NBU gets to the end of a media, does it flag it anywhere? Thanks, -Jonathan ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 70 - filelist expanded to too many characters
That would depend upon the OS in question. Use find or xargs to get around those problems. On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know what the magic limit is for the number of files specified by a wildcard? I have been unable to find anything in the documentation that specifies the limit. /oracle/share000/archoverflow/chgmad/* This directory expands to 827 files Jared M. Seaton Recovery Administrator Mylan Laboratories Inc. 304-554-5926 304-685-1389 (Cell) == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged, proprietary and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution, duplication or other use of this message and/or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message and its attachments. Thank you. == ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Full Media
Yes, /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpmedialist | grep -B1 FULL On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Martin, Jonathan wrote: Is there a media full flag I can parse via the command line? I'm working on a script for a remote site who only wants to remove full media from the box. I can guestimate based on how much data is on the media but when NBU gets to the end of a media, does it flag it anywhere? Thanks, -Jonathan ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Reg: Schedule backup
Please do not remove the pempersist file without direction from Technical support. The technote is in the process of being pulled from the website. If you remove pempersist when jobs are canceled/suspended prior to recycling NetBackup, it is possible to break the parent and child job associations and cause missed/skipped backups. If you are skipping backups I would take a look at whether or not you are using frequency based backups vs. calendar. With frequency based backups, if your frequency is set to one week, you must BOTH have an open window and a minimum of a week must have elapsed since the last backup. If this is the case - change the frequency to once every 5 days and see if that helps. Is this 5.x or 6.0? Have you removed and recreated the policy (don't copy)? If this is 6.0 - run the following: /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/nbpemreq -tables screen /tmp/tables.out Take a look at the tables.out file generated and locate the policy in question. When is this full backup due to run? D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:30:30 + From: A Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Reg: Schedule backup To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 08:38:20AM -0700, ramaswamy savi wrote: Hi The backup has been scheduled on friday at 10.00 PM, but it does n't start at specified time at all, for past four weeks i am starting the backup maunally. Whenever I hear schedules not running on 6.0, I think of clearing out the pempersist file as the first step. http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/281780.htm -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOS http://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. - Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more!___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 70 - filelist expanded to too many characters
0n Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 09:47:56AM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: That would depend upon the OS in question. Use find or xargs to get around those problems. Its a shell limitation. As Justin said use xargs(1) or find(1). However, in the context of Netbackup, NFI why this would happen. -aW IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES ACT 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 70 - filelist expanded to too many characters
I know there is a file-length limit of 1023/1024 characters long when backing up very long filename paths.. On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: 0n Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 09:47:56AM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote: That would depend upon the OS in question. Use find or xargs to get around those problems. Its a shell limitation. As Justin said use xargs(1) or find(1). However, in the context of Netbackup, NFI why this would happen. -aW IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES ACT 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Amount of data
Thanks everyone for all the valuable suggestions -- I found the below command
which was what exactly I was looking for -
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpimagelist -l -d 08/19/07 -e 09/19/07 | grep
FRAG | awk ' { tot+=3D$4 } END { printf %d\n,tot }'
Thanks Again,
Smitha
-Original Message-
From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 8:01 AM
To: Pillapalem, Smitha; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Amount of data
Don't completely dismiss or accept a product just based on what others have
said - test it yourself.
One reason to test yourself is that the products are constantly changing (and
hopefully improving). When I did my head-to-head testing, it was over 3 years
ago. Although one product won handily at the time, that doesn't mean that it
still will - there's no way for me to know how well it will work in my
environment without doing the tests again and I have no reason to do so.
When you evaluate the products, you should also look at the vendor's
relationship with Symantec and how fast each responds to new releases. In
fact, now would be a good time to ask whether they support NetBackup 6.5 or
not, even if you're not at 6.5 yet. You want to be assured that they'll
support the new releases before you're ready to upgrade to them.
Some products take different approaches than others so they'll work better in
some environments than others. Make sure that the product you buy is the right
fit for you and not necessarily for somebody else.
.../Ed
--
Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I GoodSearch for Bundles Of Love: http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=821118
From: Curtis Preston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:19 PM
To: Ed Wilts; Pillapalem, Smitha; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Amount of data
The first thing I would say is to use bpimagelist with the appropriate flags.
It goes as far back as you have images, and can be told to list particular
types of backups. One of the fields is size.
I agree that if you want historical reporting, it's easiest if you get a
commercial reporting product. There are a number of such products on the
market, and they offer some really good functionality that's really hard to get
otherwise. The following is a listing of them, alphabetical by product name.
(I keep a directory of them and a bunch of other backup-related products at
http://www.backupcentral.com/components/com_mambowiki/index.php/Category:Backup_Software_Directories
.)
www.tek-tools.com http://www.tek-tools.com/ (BackupProfiler)
www.agite.com http://www.agite.com/ (Backup Visual)
http://www.bocada.com/ www.bocada.com (Bocada)
http://www.servergraph.com/ www.servergraph.com (Servergraph)
http://www.aptare.com/ www.aptare.com (Storage Console)
www.symantec.com http://www.symantec.com/ (The new Veritas Backup Reporter,
not to be confused with NOM.)
www.wysdm.com http://www.wysdm.com/ (WysDM for Backups, also resold by EMC)
I would suggest that you decide what you want out of a reporting product first,
then take a look at all of these to see which one best fit your needs. Feel
free to search the Backup Central forums ( http://www.backupcentral.com/phpBB2
) for these product names to see what others have said over time. Take all
comments with a grain of salt; however, there are a few shills out there.
Don't completely dismiss or accept a product just based on what others have
said - test it yourself.
---
W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies
_
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:46 PM
To: 'Pillapalem, Smitha'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Amount of data
If you want history for the last few days, it's not that tough. If you want
long-term history, you'll need a reporting product. NOM is free although
limited. Commercial products like Aptare's StorageConsole are far more
featured and can give you relatively instant reports over long periods - just
today I was generating weekly totals for the last year and the reports were
popping up in seconds and we run a lot of backup jobs every day.
.../Ed
--
Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I GoodSearch for Bundles Of Love: http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=821118
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pillapalem,
Smitha
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:18 PM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Amount of data
Hi all,
How do I get the information on amount of data getting backed up in my current
environment for both weekly fulls and daily incremental -
Thanks,
Smitha
Re: [Veritas-bu] Status 70 - filelist expanded to too many characters
just removing the * worked perfect Jared M. Seaton Recovery Administrator Mylan Laboratories Inc. 304-554-5926 304-685-1389 (Cell) Jeff Lightner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/20/2007 09:42 AM To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject RE: [Veritas-bu] Status 70 - filelist expanded to too many characters Rather than /oracle/share000/archoverflow/chgmad/* just do /oracle/share000/archoverflow/chgmad/ The first tells it to do every file so it has to expand to find all files. The second just says to do the directory which would include contents ? it shouldn?t have to expand those. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 9:24 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Status 70 - filelist expanded to too many characters Does anyone know what the magic limit is for the number of files specified by a wildcard? I have been unable to find anything in the documentation that specifies the limit. /oracle/share000/archoverflow/chgmad/* This directory expands to 827 files Jared M. Seaton Recovery Administrator Mylan Laboratories Inc. 304-554-5926 304-685-1389 (Cell) == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged, proprietary and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution, duplication or other use of this message and/or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message and its attachments. Thank you. == -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged, proprietary and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution, duplication or other use of this message and/or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message and its attachments. Thank you. == ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5
Has anyone got 6.5 yet? We are running NBU 5.0 MP7 on a predomintatly solaris platform. We are due to upgrade h/w and s/w and i was wondering was it worth going for 6.0 which seems to be used quite a bit by people now, or do we go to new 6.5 ? Also we have around 20 servers including a 2 node Sun Cluster ( attached to T3 arrays ) running oracle10g. Is there anything special which can be done with 6.5 or is it just worth still doing filesystem backups direct to Tape Thanks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Full Media
The bpmedialist command will only tell you part of the story. It won't tell you whether or not the FULL tape is actually in the library or not. The best way is to run the available media report which is found at: /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/goodies/available_media. Not only does the report tell you which media are full, but it will also tell which full ones are still in the library. So, run the report out of cron and save the output to a file and just grep for FULL and TLD (or whichever library type you have). --Stuart -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin Piszcz Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 7:04 AM To: Martin, Jonathan Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Full Media Yes, /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpmedialist | grep -B1 FULL On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Martin, Jonathan wrote: Is there a media full flag I can parse via the command line? I'm working on a script for a remote site who only wants to remove full media from the box. I can guestimate based on how much data is on the media but when NBU gets to the end of a media, does it flag it anywhere? Thanks, -Jonathan ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Dave Markham wrote: Has anyone got 6.5 yet? We are running NBU 5.0 MP7 on a predomintatly solaris platform. We are due to upgrade h/w and s/w and i was wondering was it worth going for 6.0 which seems to be used quite a bit by people now, or do we go to new 6.5 ? Also we have around 20 servers including a 2 node Sun Cluster ( attached to T3 arrays ) running oracle10g. Is there anything special which can be done with 6.5 or is it just worth still doing filesystem backups direct to Tape Thanks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu I'd recommend 6.0MP4 as I have not done any testing with 6.5 yet. Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5
Thanks Im just reading through documentation and apparently Solaris 8 as a client isnt supported under NBU 6.5 so that rules that out as the infrastructure is still ruinning Sol8. Bit harsh me thinks. Thing is unless we go to 6.5 the customer will be paying lots for 6 and then in a years time when 7 comes out 6 will be no longer supported as i beleive NBU only goes 1 level back for support? Dave Justin Piszcz wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Dave Markham wrote: Has anyone got 6.5 yet? We are running NBU 5.0 MP7 on a predomintatly solaris platform. We are due to upgrade h/w and s/w and i was wondering was it worth going for 6.0 which seems to be used quite a bit by people now, or do we go to new 6.5 ? Also we have around 20 servers including a 2 node Sun Cluster ( attached to T3 arrays ) running oracle10g. Is there anything special which can be done with 6.5 or is it just worth still doing filesystem backups direct to Tape Thanks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu I'd recommend 6.0MP4 as I have not done any testing with 6.5 yet. Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5
Would you deploy something that you didn't test regardless of support? Justin. On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Dave Markham wrote: Thanks Im just reading through documentation and apparently Solaris 8 as a client isnt supported under NBU 6.5 so that rules that out as the infrastructure is still ruinning Sol8. Bit harsh me thinks. Thing is unless we go to 6.5 the customer will be paying lots for 6 and then in a years time when 7 comes out 6 will be no longer supported as i beleive NBU only goes 1 level back for support? Dave Justin Piszcz wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Dave Markham wrote: Has anyone got 6.5 yet? We are running NBU 5.0 MP7 on a predomintatly solaris platform. We are due to upgrade h/w and s/w and i was wondering was it worth going for 6.0 which seems to be used quite a bit by people now, or do we go to new 6.5 ? Also we have around 20 servers including a 2 node Sun Cluster ( attached to T3 arrays ) running oracle10g. Is there anything special which can be done with 6.5 or is it just worth still doing filesystem backups direct to Tape Thanks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu I'd recommend 6.0MP4 as I have not done any testing with 6.5 yet. Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5
Unless you are willing to support them every step of the way with 6.5 and any new problem they may encounter I'd recomend 6.0MP4 until 6.0MP4 is proven. On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Dave Markham wrote: Thanks Im just reading through documentation and apparently Solaris 8 as a client isnt supported under NBU 6.5 so that rules that out as the infrastructure is still ruinning Sol8. Bit harsh me thinks. Thing is unless we go to 6.5 the customer will be paying lots for 6 and then in a years time when 7 comes out 6 will be no longer supported as i beleive NBU only goes 1 level back for support? Dave Justin Piszcz wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Dave Markham wrote: Has anyone got 6.5 yet? We are running NBU 5.0 MP7 on a predomintatly solaris platform. We are due to upgrade h/w and s/w and i was wondering was it worth going for 6.0 which seems to be used quite a bit by people now, or do we go to new 6.5 ? Also we have around 20 servers including a 2 node Sun Cluster ( attached to T3 arrays ) running oracle10g. Is there anything special which can be done with 6.5 or is it just worth still doing filesystem backups direct to Tape Thanks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu I'd recommend 6.0MP4 as I have not done any testing with 6.5 yet. Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] How to Identify Parent Jobs ?
I ran the following command: /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpdbjobs -report -all_columns This presents a single line comma separated output, I´m trying to Identify which field is the parent job from a backup, I have understood that a backup could be done with several jobs, I need to find how to relate all the jobs generated from a single backup, the parent and their sons some sort of speak, please help me [Exclamation] Tsilva +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5
OUCH! Support is one thing, will it work (with an older client version)? Anyone running 6.5 backing up Solaris 8 clients? What client versions are you running? -Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:52 AM To: Justin Piszcz Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5 Thanks Im just reading through documentation and apparently Solaris 8 as a client isnt supported under NBU 6.5 so that rules that out as the infrastructure is still ruinning Sol8. Bit harsh me thinks. Thing is unless we go to 6.5 the customer will be paying lots for 6 and then in a years time when 7 comes out 6 will be no longer supported as i beleive NBU only goes 1 level back for support? Dave Justin Piszcz wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Dave Markham wrote: Has anyone got 6.5 yet? We are running NBU 5.0 MP7 on a predomintatly solaris platform. We are due to upgrade h/w and s/w and i was wondering was it worth going for 6.0 which seems to be used quite a bit by people now, or do we go to new 6.5 ? Also we have around 20 servers including a 2 node Sun Cluster ( attached to T3 arrays ) running oracle10g. Is there anything special which can be done with 6.5 or is it just worth still doing filesystem backups direct to Tape Thanks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu I'd recommend 6.0MP4 as I have not done any testing with 6.5 yet. Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5
I would recommend upgrading to 6.0MP4 first, and get that working. Let 6.5 stabilize for awhile before making that plunge. 6.5 was just released. = Carl Stehman IT Distributed Services Team Pepco Holdings, Inc. 202-331-6619 Pager 301-765-2703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/20/2007 11:19 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5 Has anyone got 6.5 yet? We are running NBU 5.0 MP7 on a predomintatly solaris platform. We are due to upgrade h/w and s/w and i was wondering was it worth going for 6.0 which seems to be used quite a bit by people now, or do we go to new 6.5 ? Also we have around 20 servers including a 2 node Sun Cluster ( attached to T3 arrays ) running oracle10g. Is there anything special which can be done with 6.5 or is it just worth still doing filesystem backups direct to Tape Thanks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright belonging to Pepco Holdings, Inc. or its affiliates (PHI). This Email is intended solely for the use of the person(s) to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this Email to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this Email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete this Email and any copies. PHI policies expressly prohibit employees from making defamatory or offensive statements and infringing any copyright or any other legal right by Email communication. PHI will not accept any liability in respect of such communications. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5
Justin, running MP5 since Monday already found an interesting bug : Etrack 110077 Cannot view or restore compress images ... I think I might also have found another one : hot catalog backup just kills NB_dbsrv ... Greg On 9/20/07, Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Dave Markham wrote: Has anyone got 6.5 yet? We are running NBU 5.0 MP7 on a predomintatly solaris platform. We are due to upgrade h/w and s/w and i was wondering was it worth going for 6.0 which seems to be used quite a bit by people now, or do we go to new 6.5 ? Also we have around 20 servers including a 2 node Sun Cluster ( attached to T3 arrays ) running oracle10g. Is there anything special which can be done with 6.5 or is it just worth still doing filesystem backups direct to Tape Thanks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu I'd recommend 6.0MP4 as I have not done any testing with 6.5 yet. Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- Gregory DEMILDE Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM : +352 691 915620 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5
Hmmm... Solaris 8, 9 and 10 all appear to be supported on 6.x as Client OR Server according to this link: http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/278064.htm As for continued support, Symantec supports one major revision back. So, currently with 6.x (6.0 and 6.5), 5.x is also supported. There's an updated support statement which you can find here: http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/290017.htm I couldn't put my finger on anything that talked about 6.0/6.5 end of support life, but would expect such a statement after the next major release. -Tim On 9/20/07, Dave Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Im just reading through documentation and apparently Solaris 8 as a client isnt supported under NBU 6.5 so that rules that out as the infrastructure is still ruinning Sol8. Bit harsh me thinks. Thing is unless we go to 6.5 the customer will be paying lots for 6 and then in a years time when 7 comes out 6 will be no longer supported as i beleive NBU only goes 1 level back for support? Dave Justin Piszcz wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Dave Markham wrote: Has anyone got 6.5 yet? We are running NBU 5.0 MP7 on a predomintatly solaris platform. We are due to upgrade h/w and s/w and i was wondering was it worth going for 6.0 which seems to be used quite a bit by people now, or do we go to new 6.5 ? Also we have around 20 servers including a 2 node Sun Cluster ( attached to T3 arrays ) running oracle10g. Is there anything special which can be done with 6.5 or is it just worth still doing filesystem backups direct to Tape Thanks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu I'd recommend 6.0MP4 as I have not done any testing with 6.5 yet. Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5
Yes, but if you want to back up Exchange 2007, then you will want to use NetBackup 6.5. NetBackup 6.0 does not have support for Exchange 2007. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 9:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5 I would recommend upgrading to 6.0MP4 first, and get that working. Let 6.5 stabilize for awhile before making that plunge. 6.5 was just released. = Carl Stehman IT Distributed Services Team Pepco Holdings, Inc. 202-331-6619 Pager 301-765-2703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/20/2007 11:19 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5 Has anyone got 6.5 yet? We are running NBU 5.0 MP7 on a predomintatly solaris platform. We are due to upgrade h/w and s/w and i was wondering was it worth going for 6.0 which seems to be used quite a bit by people now, or do we go to new 6.5 ? Also we have around 20 servers including a 2 node Sun Cluster ( attached to T3 arrays ) running oracle10g. Is there anything special which can be done with 6.5 or is it just worth still doing filesystem backups direct to Tape Thanks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright belonging to Pepco Holdings, Inc. or its affiliates (PHI). This Email is intended solely for the use of the person(s) to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this Email to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this Email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete this Email and any copies. PHI policies expressly prohibit employees from making defamatory or offensive statements and infringing any copyright or any other legal right by Email communication. PHI will not accept any liability in respect of such communications. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Reg: Schedule backup
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 07:01:51AM -0700, d w wrote: Please do not remove the pempersist file without direction from Technical support. The technote is in the process of being pulled from the website. If you remove pempersist when jobs are canceled/suspended prior to recycling NetBackup, it is possible to break the parent and child job associations and cause missed/skipped backups. First I've heard of that. But then again, I'm only doing it when I miss backups anyway. :-) If you are skipping backups I would take a look at whether or not you are using frequency based backups vs. calendar. With frequency based backups, if your frequency is set to one week, you must BOTH have an open window and a minimum of a week must have elapsed since the last backup. If this is the case - change the frequency to once every 5 days and see if that helps. Don't know about the OP, but on my problem policies, I'm calendar only. Sometimes one or two of the 'full' backups just don't get scheduled. Is this 5.x or 6.0? For me, 6.0, 6.0MP3, and 6.0MP4. MP4 is better, but they never disappeared. /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/nbpemreq -tables screen /tmp/tables.out Take a look at the tables.out file generated and locate the policy in question. When is this full backup due to run? It's been a while since I've done this. My fuzzy memory says the last time I looked at this during a problem, the actual schedule times were correct, but the 'dont_sched' flag was set to 1. After clearing pempersist and restarting, 'dont_sched' went to 0. I have a number of fulls scheduled for the end of the month. If I have one that doesn't start, I'll pull the tables output for it. -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5
MP6 will, according to this: NetBackup for Exchange 2007 STATEMENT OF DIRECTION Symantec Corporation intends to deliver support for Microsoft Exchange 2007 in NetBackup 6.0 and 6.5. NetBackup 6.0 In SepQtr07, a special patch after 6.0 MP5 (not part of MP5) will support: Database backup recovery Microsoft Cluster Server environments This patch will support NetBackup 6.0 MP5 Windows 2003 x64 clients only, not NetBackup servers. (When available, this document will provide instructions for obtaining the special patch.) In 6.0 MP6, planned for DecQtr07, support will be added for: Mailbox backup recovery Veritas Cluster Server environments Support for other capabilities is available by upgrading to NetBackup 6.5. NetBackup 6.5 In August 2007, NetBackup 6.5 GA supports: Database backup recovery Microsoft Cluster Server environments In 6.5.1, planned for DecQtr07, support will be added for: Mailbox backup recovery Veritas Cluster Server environments Local and off-host snapshot backups VSS snapshot providers: Windows COW, VxVM, and HW Arrays (TBD) The objective is to support the current NetBackup for Exchange capabilities with Exchange 2007. In 6.5.2, planned for MarQtr08, support will be added for: NEW Instant Recovery from snapshots for Exchange 2007 and Exchange 2003 In 6.5.3, planned for JunQtr08, support will be added for: NEW Mailbox restore from a database backup NEW Exchange 2007 on Windows Server 2008 NEW Backup recovery of replicated Exchange databases (via native Exchange Local or Clustered Continuous Replication) Symantec Corporation is committed to serving the Microsoft Exchange market and offering our customers the benefits of NetBackup enterprise data protection solutions. We welcome your feedback regarding this announcement. Please contact your Symantec account representative for assistance. This statement was last revised on August 7, 2007 and supersedes all previous statements. These statements represent current development plans of Symantec Corporation. Plans are subject to change or cancellation without notice. Reliance on this Statement of Direction is solely at the risk of the relying party and does not create any liability or constitute an obligation for Symantec Corporation in any manner implied or assumed. -- Original message -- From: Liddle, Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, but if you want to back up Exchange 2007, then you will want to use NetBackup 6.5. NetBackup 6.0 does not have support for Exchange 2007. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 9:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5 I would recommend upgrading to 6.0MP4 first, and get that working. Let 6.5 stabilize for awhile before making that plunge. 6.5 was just released. = Carl Stehman IT Distributed Services Team Pepco Holdings, Inc. 202-331-6619 Pager 301-765-2703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/20/2007 11:19 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Toveritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject[Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5 Has anyone got 6.5 yet? We are running NBU 5.0 MP7 on a predomintatly solaris platform. We are due to upgrade h/w and s/w and i was wondering was it worth going for 6.0 which seems to be used quite a bit by people now, or do we go to new 6.5 ? Also we have around 20 servers including a 2 node Sun Cluster ( attached to T3 arrays ) running oracle10g. Is there anything special which can be done with 6.5 or is it just worth still doing filesystem backups direct to Tape Thanks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright belonging to Pepco Holdings, Inc. or its affiliates (PHI). This Email is intended solely for the use of the person(s) to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this Email to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this Email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete this Email and any copies. PHI policies expressly prohibit employees from making defamatory or offensive statements and infringing any copyright or any other legal right by Email communication. PHI will not accept any liability in respect of such communications. ---BeginMessage--- ___ Veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5
Interesting. Thanks. I got the support issue for Sol8 clients from the 6 release notes and the section entitled Operating Systems Not Supported as of Next Major Release. http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server/279259.pdf I wasnt aware of how long 6.5 has been out which was why i posed the question to the list. I've had my head buried in perl and san stuff for the past 6 months so havnt kept that much up to date with NBU. Thanks for responses. Looks like ill go to 6.0 MP4. I just know the customer who will be saying why not the latest version? How long will this be supported for? Its not our problem if the current version has bugs its up to you to sort out with symantec. things like that make you edgy when proposing a new setup. cheers Tim Hoke wrote: Hmmm... Solaris 8, 9 and 10 all appear to be supported on 6.x as Client OR Server according to this link: http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/278064.htm http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/278064.htm As for continued support, Symantec supports one major revision back. So, currently with 6.x (6.0 and 6.5), 5.x is also supported. There's an updated support statement which you can find here: http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/290017.htm I couldn't put my finger on anything that talked about 6.0/6.5 end of support life, but would expect such a statement after the next major release. -Tim On 9/20/07, *Dave Markham* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Im just reading through documentation and apparently Solaris 8 as a client isnt supported under NBU 6.5 so that rules that out as the infrastructure is still ruinning Sol8. Bit harsh me thinks. Thing is unless we go to 6.5 the customer will be paying lots for 6 and then in a years time when 7 comes out 6 will be no longer supported as i beleive NBU only goes 1 level back for support? Dave Justin Piszcz wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Dave Markham wrote: Has anyone got 6.5 yet? We are running NBU 5.0 MP7 on a predomintatly solaris platform. We are due to upgrade h/w and s/w and i was wondering was it worth going for 6.0 which seems to be used quite a bit by people now, or do we go to new 6.5 ? Also we have around 20 servers including a 2 node Sun Cluster ( attached to T3 arrays ) running oracle10g. Is there anything special which can be done with 6.5 or is it just worth still doing filesystem backups direct to Tape Thanks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu I'd recommend 6.0MP4 as I have not done any testing with 6.5 yet. Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5
I would go to 6.5. I have done a few upgrades already and things are fine. I am not sure what you were reading, but Solaris 8 is still supported in 6.5. See attached compatibility matrix. As for Oracle, not sure I would need to more details. If there is a lot of data you might want to consider making it a SAN client, but that is only supported to disk for this release. It basically sends all of the data over fiber without having to make it a media server. Reneé Carlisle ServerWare Corporation -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin Piszcz Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:52 AM To: Dave Markham Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5 Would you deploy something that you didn't test regardless of support? Justin. On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Dave Markham wrote: Thanks Im just reading through documentation and apparently Solaris 8 as a client isnt supported under NBU 6.5 so that rules that out as the infrastructure is still ruinning Sol8. Bit harsh me thinks. Thing is unless we go to 6.5 the customer will be paying lots for 6 and then in a years time when 7 comes out 6 will be no longer supported as i beleive NBU only goes 1 level back for support? Dave Justin Piszcz wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Dave Markham wrote: Has anyone got 6.5 yet? We are running NBU 5.0 MP7 on a predomintatly solaris platform. We are due to upgrade h/w and s/w and i was wondering was it worth going for 6.0 which seems to be used quite a bit by people now, or do we go to new 6.5 ? Also we have around 20 servers including a 2 node Sun Cluster ( attached to T3 arrays ) running oracle10g. Is there anything special which can be done with 6.5 or is it just worth still doing filesystem backups direct to Tape Thanks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu I'd recommend 6.0MP4 as I have not done any testing with 6.5 yet. Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] How to Identify Parent Jobs ?
I ran the following command: /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpdbjobs -report -all_columns This presents a single line comma separated output, I?m trying to Identify which field is the parent job from a backup, I have understood that a backup could be done with several jobs, I need to find how to relate all the jobs generated from a single backup, the parent and their sons some sort of speak, please help me [Exclamation] Are you asking about retries or about separate jobs for a multi-stream policy in Netbackup 6? The first case is given by separate 'try' information in a line. In that situation, they're not separate jobs. In the second case, you could look at the 'parentjob' field. If it differs from the jobid, then this job is a child. See this page: http://www.backupcentral.com/components/com_mambowiki/index.php/How_do_you_decipher_the_output_of_%22bpdbjobs_-report_-all_columns%22%3F The number of tries are defined in a particular field, and then the information about each try is written after that. -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5
Do you have a link to the document that you pulled that information out of? Reneé Carlisle ServerWare Corporation _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:35 PM To: Liddle, Stuart; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5 MP6 will, according to this: NetBackup for Exchange 2007 STATEMENT OF DIRECTION Symantec Corporation intends to deliver support for Microsoft Exchange 2007 in NetBackup 6.0 and 6.5. NetBackup 6.0 In SepQtr07, a special patch after 6.0 MP5 (not part of MP5) will support: Database backup recovery Microsoft Cluster Server environments This patch will support NetBackup 6.0 MP5 Windows 2003 x64 clients only, not NetBackup servers. (When available, this document will provide instructions for obtaining the special patch.) In 6.0 MP6, planned for DecQtr07, support will be added for: Mailbox backup recovery Veritas Cluster Server environments Support for other capabilities is available by upgrading to NetBackup 6.5. NetBackup 6.5 In August 2007, NetBackup 6.5 GA supports: Database backup recovery Microsoft Cluster Server environments In 6.5.1, planned for DecQtr07, support will be added for: Mailbox backup recovery Veritas Cluster Server environments Local and off-host snapshot backups VSS snapshot providers: Windows COW, VxVM, and HW Arrays (TBD) The objective is to support the current NetBackup for Exchange capabilities with Exchange 2007. In 6.5.2, planned for MarQtr08, support will be added for: NEW Instant Recovery from snapshots for Exchange 2007 and Exchange 2003 In 6.5.3, planned for JunQtr08, support will be added for: NEW Mailbox restore from a database backup NEW Exchange 2007 on Windows Server 2008 NEW Backup recovery of replicated Exchange databases (via native Exchange Local or Clustered Continuous Replication) Symantec Corporation is committed to serving the Microsoft Exchange market and offering our customers the benefits of NetBackup enterprise data protection solutions. We welcome your feedback regarding this announcement. Please contact your Symantec account representative for assistance. This statement was last revised on August 7, 2007 and supersedes all previous statements. These statements represent current development plans of Symantec Corporation. Plans are subject to change or cancellation without notice. Reliance on this Statement of Direction is solely at the risk of the relying party and does not create any liability or constitute an obligation for Symantec Corporation in any manner implied or assumed. -- Original message -- From: Liddle, Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, but if you want to back up Exchange 2007, then you will want to use NetBackup 6.5. NetBackup 6.0 does not have support for Exchange 2007. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 9:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5 I would recommend upgrading to 6.0MP4 first, and get that working. Let 6.5 stabilize for awhile before making that plunge. 6.5 was just released. = Carl Stehman IT Distributed Services Team Pepco Holdings, Inc. 202-331-6619 Pager 301-765-2703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/20/2007 11:19 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5 Has anyone got 6.5 yet? We are running NBU 5.0 MP7 on a predomintatly solaris platform. We are due to upgrade h/w and s/w and i was wondering was it worth going for 6.0 which seems to be used quite a bit by people now, or do we go to new 6.5 ? Also we have around 20 servers including a 2 node Sun Cluster ( attached to T3 arrays ) running oracle10g. Is there anything special which can be done with 6.5 or is it just worth still doing filesystem ! backups direct to Tape Thanks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright belonging to Pepco Holdings, Inc. or its affiliates (PHI). This Email is intended solely for the use of the person(s) to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this Email to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this
Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5
My Symantec SE said at one point that as soon as Microsoft Released Exchange 2007 that binaries would be available to support it in 6.0. That was before we paid for an upgrade to 6.0 a year ago. Six months ago our plans for Exchange 2007 got postponed so I haven't followed up or pressed this issue. -Jonathan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rcarlisle Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Liddle, Stuart'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5 Do you have a link to the document that you pulled that information out of? Reneé Carlisle ServerWare Corporation From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:35 PM To: Liddle, Stuart; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5 MP6 will, according to this: NetBackup for Exchange 2007 STATEMENT OF DIRECTION Symantec Corporation intends to deliver support for Microsoft Exchange 2007 in NetBackup 6.0 and 6.5. NetBackup 6.0 In SepQtr07, a special patch after 6.0 MP5 (not part of MP5) will support: Database backup recovery Microsoft Cluster Server environments This patch will support NetBackup 6.0 MP5 Windows 2003 x64 clients only, not NetBackup servers. (When available, this document will provide instructions for obtaining the special patch.) In 6.0 MP6, planned for DecQtr07, support will be added for: Mailbox backup recovery Veritas Cluster Server environments Support for other capabilities is available by upgrading to NetBackup 6.5. NetBackup 6.5 In August 2007, NetBackup 6.5 GA supports: Database backup recovery Microsoft Cluster Server environments In 6.5.1, planned for DecQtr07, support will be added for: Mailbox backup recovery Veritas Cluster Server environments Local and off-host snapshot backups VSS snapshot providers: Windows COW, VxVM, and HW Arrays (TBD) The objective is to support the current NetBackup for Exchange capabilities with Exchange 2007. In 6.5.2, planned for MarQtr08, support will be added for: NEW Instant Recovery from snapshots for Exchange 2007 and Exchange 2003 In 6.5.3, planned for JunQtr08, support will be added for: NEW Mailbox restore from a database backup NEW Exchange 2007 on Windows Server 2008 NEW Backup recovery of replicated Exchange databases (via native Exchange Local or Clustered Continuous Replication) Symantec Corporation is committed to serving the Microsoft Exchange market and offering our customers the benefits of NetBackup enterprise data protection solutions. We welcome your feedback regarding this announcement. Please contact your Symantec account representative for assistance. This statement was last revised on August 7, 2007 and supersedes all previous statements. These statements represent current development plans of Symantec Corporation. Plans are subject to change or cancellation without notice. Reliance on this Statement of Direction is solely at the risk of the relying party and does not create any liability or constitute an obligation for Symantec Corporation in any manner implied or assumed. -- Original message -- From: Liddle, Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, but if you want to back up Exchange 2007, then you will want to use NetBackup 6.5. NetBackup 6.0 does not have support for Exchange 2007. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 9:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5 I would recommend upgrading to 6.0MP4 first, and get that working. Let 6.5 stabilize for awhile before making that plunge. 6.5 was just released. = Carl Stehman IT Distributed Services Team Pepco Holdings, Inc. 202-331-6619 Pager 301-765-2703 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/20/2007 11:19 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Netbackup upgrade 6 or 6.5 Has anyone got 6.5 yet? We are running NBU 5.0 MP7 on a predomintatly solaris platform. We are due to upgrade h/w and s/w and i was wondering was it worth going for 6.0 which seems
[Veritas-bu] Encryption Appliances
I'm looking into appliances for encrypting our backups between media server and tapes, maybe disks too, but unlikely. The one's I've found so far are Decru's FC Series and NeoScale's CryptoStor Tape 700 family. Cisco has some things (MDS 9000), but we don't run a Cisco based SAN so I doubt it would work. So, a few questions: 1) If you're currently using encryption devices: a. What are you using? b. Effectiveness? Ease of management? c. How functional are the Key Management features? d. How is support? e. If repurchasing, would you consider again? Why? 2) If you're currently looking: a. Who/what are you considering? b. Have you tested other? c. How does it impact backup performance? d. Overall impressions? I'd appreciate any input as we initiate looking into these new, uncharted waters. Thanks, Jason Jason Brooks Computer Systems Engineer IITS - Longwood University voice - (434) 395-2034 fax - (434) 395-2035 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] ACSLS+SL8500 Issues Remain..
Justin, If I understand correctly, jobs at times are not mounting tapes and you are probably experiencing media mount timeouts. Been there too. The bptm process makes a reservation call to the drive over the device path, prior to reserving it. If this communication does not complete, you will experience time out issues. Consider taking a look at firmware on both drives and hbas. If those are up to par, then a FC analyzer may help determine the communication issues. Also, HP has a tape drive tool that may help, it should be available from either HP or Sun/STK, upon request. The tool will pull the buffer info from the drive, which can then be analyzed by STK. Thanks, Wes ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Tape encryption
Key management for NetBackup encryption has historically been rough; also, you will loose drive level compression. New encryption appliances will allow for compression and simplified key management. Wes ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] How to Identify Parent Jobs ?
Kind of both, sometimes a backup is done in only one job, and sometimes in 4 or more jobs, can you explain me more about retries and multi-stream please, I´m using NetBackup 5.1 on Unix and Windows, Thanks !!! Tsilva +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] BMR 6.0 MP 5 in AIX BMRPrep Problem
Chodhetz, It's hard to tell by looking at the logs below what's happening. Try getting a more precise output using vxlogview -o bmrprep You should also call support. Just guessing, it looks like you had a problem with the saveconfig on some host, but not clear if it's this one. I don't see any entries for bmrprep. It could be that the Master sees the Boot Server as a different host or something. Look at the BootServer properties and make sure it looks correct. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chodhetz Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:41 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] BMR 6.0 MP 5 in AIX BMRPrep Problem Dear All, I have 1 Master server and 1 client with same configuration AIX 5.3 with NBU Version BMR Version 6.0 MP5, I configure Main Server Boot server to the same machine. I have a problem with Restore BMR using AIX 5.3, when I try to start BMR Restore, appear window error: [Error] V-126-3 'bmrprep' could not complete the requested operation. Please see logs for additional information. [Info] V-126-43 Cleaning up. Please wait (Status 1) When I check in /usr/openv/logs in master server, appear error : 09/05/07 10:01:14.183 [logChanges.cpp:LogChangesCheck()] First time called: saving config file time and returning fail. 09/05/07 10:04:38.709 V-128-2 [ImportCfg.cpp:ImportConfig()] unable to extract file ./bmrcli.xml from bundle, trying bmrcli.xml 09/05/07 10:16:42.292 V-128-2 [ImportCfg.cpp:ImportConfig()] unable to extract file ./bmrcli.xml from bundle, trying bmrcli.xml 09/05/07 11:23:36.649 [sendrecv.cpp:RecvPacket()] bad header, rc=0 09/05/07 11:23:36.666 [Error] V-119-6 Server network failure 09/05/07 11:24:40.251 V-128-2 [ImportCfg.cpp:ImportConfig()] unable to extract file ./bmrcli.xml from bundle, trying bmrcli.xml 09/05/07 11:32:58.593 [XmlParser::getFirstObject()] Could not get next non TEXT_NODE Child in getFirstObject(). 09/05/07 11:33:01.186 [CBmr::readXml(unsigned char *xml, int len, const int filter)] Replaced object in m_vConfig. 09/05/07 11:33:02.917 [CBmr::readXml(unsigned char *xml, int len, const int filter)] Replaced object in m_vConfigEditSession. 09/05/07 11:36:14.459 [XmlParser::getFirstObject()] Could not get next non TEXT_NODE Child in getFirstObject(). 09/05/07 11:36:14.460 [XmlParser::getFirstObject()] Could not get next non TEXT_NODE Child in getFirstObject(). 09/05/07 11:36:14.474 [XmlParser::getFirstObject()] Could not get next non TEXT_NODE Child in getFirstObject(). 09/05/07 11:36:21.068 [XmlParser::getFirstObject()] Could not get next non TEXT_NODE Child in getFirstObject(). 09/05/07 11:36:21.138 [XmlParser::getFirstObject()] Could not get next non TEXT_NODE Child in getFirstObject(). 09/05/07 11:36:39.018 [XmlParser::getFirstObject()] Could not get next non TEXT_NODE Child in getFirstObject(). 09/05/07 11:36:39.018 [XmlParser::getFirstObject()] Could not get next non TEXT_NODE Child in getFirstObject(). 09/05/07 11:36:44.529 [XmlParser::getFirstObject()] Could not get next non TEXT_NODE Child in getFirstObject(). 09/05/07 11:36:44.536 [XmlParser::getFirstObject()] Could not get next non TEXT_NODE Child in getFirstObject(). 09/05/07 11:36:58.016 [XmlParser::getFirstObject()] Could not get next non TEXT_NODE Child in getFirstObject(). 09/05/07 11:36:58.016 [XmlParser::getFirstObject()] Could not get next non TEXT_NODE Child in getFirstObject(). 09/05/07 11:37:03.235 [XmlParser::getFirstObject()] Could not get next non TEXT_NODE Child in getFirstObject(). 09/05/07 11:37:03.241 [XmlParser::getFirstObject()] Could not get next non TEXT_NODE Child in getFirstObject(). 09/05/07 11:40:47.965 V-128-2 [ImportCfg.cpp:ImportConfig()] unable to extract file ./bmrcli.xml from bundle, trying bmrcli.xml 09/05/07 11:42:57.405 V-128-2 [ImportCfg.cpp:ImportConfig()] unable to extract file ./bmrcli.xml from bundle, trying bmrcli.xml 09/05/07 11:45:04.697 V-128-2 [ImportCfg.cpp:ImportConfig()] unable to extract file ./bmrcli.xml from bundle, trying bmrcli.xml 09/05/07 11:54:47.494 [logChanges.cpp:LogChangesCheck()] First time called: saving config file time and returning fail. 09/05/07 11:55:42.561 [CBmr::readXml(unsigned char *xml, int len, const int filter)] Replaced object in m_vSrt. 09/05/07 11:55:45.429 [bmrSystemCommon.cpp:BmrSystemCommon()] Child process pid=44860 exited with non-zero status=1 09/05/07 11:59:42.571 [CBmr::readXml(unsigned char *xml, int len, const int filter)] Replaced object in m_vSrt. 09/05/07 11:59:45.217 [bmrSystemCommon.cpp:BmrSystemCommon()] Child process pid=27708 exited with non-zero status=1 09/05/07 12:02:18.938 [CBmr::readXml(unsigned char *xml, int len, const int filter)] Replaced object in m_vSrt. 09/05/07 12:02:21.453 [bmrSystemCommon.cpp:BmrSystemCommon()] Child process pid=43964 exited with non-zero status=1 09/05/07 12:04:36.237 [CBmr::readXml(unsigned char
Re: [Veritas-bu] Tape encryption
The Decru encryption appliances definitely compress and I'd be really surprised if the NeoScale ones didn't. And you don't actually lose drive level compression - it remains enabled and compresses away the padding on the tail end of the encrypted data set (admittedly not much). The encryption and compression is done by the same processor in the Decru appliance but the last tape block needs to be padded in the data stream. I do not believe that the Decru compression/encryption takes up any more tape space than the original unencrypted data compressed by the tape drive. ./Ed -- Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnson, Wesley Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:04 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Tape encryption Key management for NetBackup encryption has historically been rough; also, you will loose drive level compression. New encryption appliances will allow for compression and simplified key management. Wes ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] How to roll back if nbpushdata failed on media server ?
Hi folks, My Solaris 9 master server is running NBU6.0MP4, now we are planning to upgrade the rest of the media servers. Question : How to roll back media server if nbpushdata failed while executing on this media server. What i can think off is 1. Uninstall NBU6.0MP4 from media server 2. Install back to NBU5.1MP6 to this media server 3. Would it work ? or an other like cleaning out the EMM DB which is on master server ? etc Thanks ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
