[VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY

2010-05-11 Thread Jimmy D. Moore
As my father recently said to me in an armchair session, it is not the hundreds of fish taken that one remembers, but those few heavy trout taken or lost under difficult conditions. Just the knowledge that a big fish is present adds flavor to the pool. 

Ernest G. Schwiebert, Jr. 




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RE: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY

2010-05-11 Thread J Balmer
I remember a couple of days where we caught hundreds of trout…

 

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As my father recently said to me in an armchair session, it is not the
hundreds of fish taken that one remembers, but those few heavy trout taken
or lost under difficult conditions. Just the knowledge that a big fish is
present adds flavor to the pool. 
 
Ernest G. Schwiebert, Jr. 
 
 
 
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JIMMY D. MOORE, ARS WB5RHT,author Moon Holler Misfits 
Fishing  Hunting Club, Member, TOWA, Past VP Guadalupe 
River Trout Unlimited,   North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,
Texas Fish  Game Magazine, VFB  FFW Moderator, Scout 
Exec. BSA, Retired, http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html

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[VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?

2010-05-11 Thread Alan Di Somma
I have a nice piece of elk rump. 
I want to remove all the fat and what ever else is there but I want the hyde to 
be pliable.
I have dried other pieces of hyde with borax and salt, but it was always very 
hard and stiff.
When you buy a piece of deer fur the hyde is usually very flexible.
Can any one tell me what kind of chemicals are used ?

Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

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Re: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?

2010-05-11 Thread Don Ordes
Alan,

Any taxidermy shop can help you through the multi-step process, but an overview 
for tannning that will give you a soft leather hide like you find in shops is 
on Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanning

It is involved, and when I wanted hides tanned, I brought them into a tannery 
and he added them to his batches for a minimal fee.  My suggestion, if you 
don't actually want to learn it yourself.  If you do, there's different methods 
depending on the results you want.

I would love to know how Wapsi gets their hides done.  The leather is awesome 
and the hair is never brittle.

Hope this helps.
DonO
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  Subject: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?


  I have a nice piece of elk rump. 
  I want to remove all the fat and what ever else is there but I want the hyde 
to be pliable.
  I have dried other pieces of hyde with borax and salt, but it was always very 
hard and stiff.
  When you buy a piece of deer fur the hyde is usually very flexible.
  Can any one tell me what kind of chemicals are used ?

  Thank you,
  Alan Di Somma 

  You know your a redneck when:

  You can entertain yourself for more than 15 minutes with a fly swatter.

  http://www.azflyfishing.net/

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Re: [VFB] Problem with tying this critter

2010-05-11 Thread Rodger Oleson
Thanks, DonO and Joyce,  Maybe I need to explain further.  I too can and 
do make mono eyes from several sizes of monofilament line.  That is not 
the problem.  The problem is getting the mono to fuse together.  I'm 
gonna try and acquire some different brands of mono to try, but of the 
four I've tried so far, they want to melt away from each other when the 
ends are heated while holding them in a pair of needlenose pliers, 
hemostats, or tweezers.
I will go dig out some of my weedeater cutting line to see if that 
works, and will report back.  I have several sizes of weedeater line, 
but may not have any small enough.  We'll see.

BTW, can you melt the mono with a cautery without messing up the tool?

Rodger

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Re: [VFB] Problem with tying this critter

2010-05-11 Thread Joyce Westphal
I melt with the cautery with no problems.  Any left over plastic will simply
burn off the end of it when you are done..just push the on button with
nothing on the end. I don't think the cautery cares what i burns and melts.
 When you use the cautery,just hold it really close to the end of the mono
and it will ball up. Joyce

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Rodger Oleson rodger...@argontech.netwrote:

  Thanks, DonO and Joyce,  Maybe I need to explain further.  I too can and
 do make mono eyes from several sizes of monofilament line.  That is not the
 problem.  The problem is getting the mono to fuse together.  I'm gonna try
 and acquire some different brands of mono to try, but of the four I've tried
 so far, they want to melt away from each other when the ends are heated
 while holding them in a pair of needlenose pliers, hemostats, or tweezers.
 I will go dig out some of my weedeater cutting line to see if that works,
 and will report back.  I have several sizes of weedeater line, but may not
 have any small enough.  We'll see.
 BTW, can you melt the mono with a cautery without messing up the tool?

 Rodger

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Re: [VFB] Problem with tying this critter

2010-05-11 Thread Joyce Westphal
PS: have a cold piece of metal and just push the end of the hot mono onto it
if you want a flat eye.

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.comwrote:

 I melt with the cautery with no problems.  Any left over plastic will
 simply burn off the end of it when you are done..just push the on button
 with nothing on the end. I don't think the cautery cares what i burns and
 melts.  When you use the cautery,just hold it really close to the end of the
 mono and it will ball up. Joyce


 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Rodger Oleson rodger...@argontech.netwrote:

  Thanks, DonO and Joyce,  Maybe I need to explain further.  I too can and
 do make mono eyes from several sizes of monofilament line.  That is not the
 problem.  The problem is getting the mono to fuse together.  I'm gonna try
 and acquire some different brands of mono to try, but of the four I've tried
 so far, they want to melt away from each other when the ends are heated
 while holding them in a pair of needlenose pliers, hemostats, or tweezers.
 I will go dig out some of my weedeater cutting line to see if that works,
 and will report back.  I have several sizes of weedeater line, but may not
 have any small enough.  We'll see.
 BTW, can you melt the mono with a cautery without messing up the tool?

 Rodger

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Re: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?

2010-05-11 Thread Bill
A friend of mine used to tack a hide to plywood and cover it with Borax and 
leave it laying flat for about a month and his turned out pretty good but not 
sure if he did anything else to it or not. I do know all the flesh has got to 
be removed or it may rot I've also heard salt will work but never trying it 
myself not sure what would work best.I know you can buy some stuff from 
Vandykes that will tan a hide and it's powder form..
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  Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:08 PM
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  Alan,

  Any taxidermy shop can help you through the multi-step process, but an 
overview for tannning that will give you a soft leather hide like you find in 
shops is on Wiki:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanning

  It is involved, and when I wanted hides tanned, I brought them into a tannery 
and he added them to his batches for a minimal fee.  My suggestion, if you 
don't actually want to learn it yourself.  If you do, there's different methods 
depending on the results you want.

  I would love to know how Wapsi gets their hides done.  The leather is awesome 
and the hair is never brittle.

  Hope this helps.
  DonO
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From: Alan Di Somma 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:41 PM
Subject: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?


I have a nice piece of elk rump. 
I want to remove all the fat and what ever else is there but I want the 
hyde to be pliable.
I have dried other pieces of hyde with borax and salt, but it was always 
very hard and stiff.
When you buy a piece of deer fur the hyde is usually very flexible.
Can any one tell me what kind of chemicals are used ?

Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

You know your a redneck when:

You can entertain yourself for more than 15 minutes with a fly swatter.

http://www.azflyfishing.net/

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Re: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?

2010-05-11 Thread Bill
rty this site for any info you may need they have everything you would need for 
fish or animals

http://www.vandykestaxidermy.com/category/chemicals-and-tanning
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  Alan,

  Any taxidermy shop can help you through the multi-step process, but an 
overview for tannning that will give you a soft leather hide like you find in 
shops is on Wiki:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanning

  It is involved, and when I wanted hides tanned, I brought them into a tannery 
and he added them to his batches for a minimal fee.  My suggestion, if you 
don't actually want to learn it yourself.  If you do, there's different methods 
depending on the results you want.

  I would love to know how Wapsi gets their hides done.  The leather is awesome 
and the hair is never brittle.

  Hope this helps.
  DonO
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From: Alan Di Somma 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:41 PM
Subject: [VFB] How to preserve elk hyde?


I have a nice piece of elk rump. 
I want to remove all the fat and what ever else is there but I want the 
hyde to be pliable.
I have dried other pieces of hyde with borax and salt, but it was always 
very hard and stiff.
When you buy a piece of deer fur the hyde is usually very flexible.
Can any one tell me what kind of chemicals are used ?

Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

You know your a redneck when:

You can entertain yourself for more than 15 minutes with a fly swatter.

http://www.azflyfishing.net/

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