Re: [videoblogging] Re: Road Node Badge Design
This is a response to an email on the Videoblogging list. I'm also posting this to the NODE101 list and encourage those who want to continue this discussion to sign up for that rather than replying on the videoblogging list. http://groups.google.com/group/NODE101 On Aug 31, 2005, at 1:21 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: In many ways we're still trying to figure out what Node101 actually *is*. Let's slow down a little here and think more high level about it before we go planning road trips and designing logos carrying the Node101 name. On Aug 31, 2005, at 3:38 PM, Steve Watkins wrote: I'm not convinced you can slow it down now, the node101 train has already left the station. What sort of high-level concepts do we need to decide before enabling node01 activities to commence? Theres loads that cpould be talked about, but what is the organisational structure, is there any way in which people could actually formally agree about high-level stuff anyway? eg who decides? Is there a constitution that people vote for? Who decides what node101 can or cannot be? Any rules about income sources, sponsorship etc? Here's my take on what Josh is saying (Josh feel free to jump in and correct me). We didn't anticipate all of this excitement around this idea. I, for one, certainly don't want to dampen anyone's enthusiasm and I want people to know that I'm totally inspired by how people are off and running with all of this but I do want to be clear that we're still making all of this up. So here is some more info that should be known. What the formal relationship between the individual nodes and the NODE101 umbrella organization is, hasn't been decided. So how do we figure that out and who gets to decide? Good question. I think right now who gets to decide is me, Ryanne, Jay, Josh, Dave Toole, and Markus. How do we decide that? That's part of what our experiment is designed to help us learn. Also we want to hear from you - people who are excited about this project - how they think it could work and what kind of organization they would want to be a part of. Here's what are plan was/is around starting nodes (our experiment): We had this idea - NODE101. We though that it would be a great test of this idea to somehow set up a small number of nodes, connect them together, produce some results and learn some lessons. Two weeks ago I wrote an email to our little group in frustration that this idea seemed doable except for the money to pay people for their time. The key, I said, in the short term (weeks and months vs years) is to get corporate sponsorship to help seed our initial nodes. So this email I sent out was asking for help in this arena. One person that I sent it to was Dave Toole from Outhink. Not only did Dave commit to putting some of his own money into making this happen he also committed to help find those other corporate sponsors needed to get this experiment off the ground. The purpose of this experiment is to set some example of what we want to see nodes be like; learn how nodes can leverage the network to be more effective; provide proof that this is a viable and sustainable project; create interest in spreading this project; create interest and opportunities for funding an expansion of the project; and to figure out what works in terms of a structure. So our plan is to start nodes in San Antonio, New York, Ojai, and Silicon Valley and the experiment is figuring out how to make them sustainable, valuable, and useful to the community. I think it's kick ass that people want to start nodes all over the place! This is what we hoped and are counting on happening. I want and need people's ideas and feedback on how they think all of this could work - that's why I put up the wiki. I want people to consider how and where they could start a node. I want to develop an organization that works, that inspires people, that empowers people, and most of all makes a difference in the world. I want NODE101 to be able to help people start nodes - maybe even help fund them initially. So I'm babbling on and on here. Let me try to bottom line it. I think it's fucking fantastic for people to imagine and even test out nodes like Jan's Road Node. Just know that how all of this works and people's relationship to all of it is yet to be figured out. Maybe NODE101 will be a non-profit, maybe it will be a for-profit venture. Maybe each node will do their own thing, maybe there will be some minimum things that all nodes should do. These things are undecided. Let's talk about that. That why I started this list. I guess the real bottom line here is that I hope you trust that we have integrity such that you can feel comfortable playing with us even though all the rules have yet to be agreed upon. -Verdi Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Road Node Badge Design
First, nice work Philip. I will try to amend the design to be more international in flavor; it was absolutely modelled after the U.S. Route 101 sign. For the record, it is not USA in any way. In all the literature, it's referred to as world-wide or international. In part, this notion is why it felt important to cross into Canada on the first Node Tour. Also why it felt really important to support VlogEurope! with my presence. Crossing into Canada also has to do with you and your great work, but we'll chat about that over a wee nip as we chop some wood or something. Since it looks like most everyone has signed onto the Road Node list, I think we should endeavor to take this discussion over there. We return you to your regularly scheduled vlog discussions. Vlog on - everywhere, Jan -- It isn't done alone. Pay more. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - Road Node 101 http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - community http://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature . - Original Message - From: Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:46 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Road Node Badge Design Hmm... that highway sign is such a distinctly American symbol. (Plus I've already heard someone on this list refer to the Road Node as Vlog Tour USA...) I realize this is a U.S-centric movement but I think I might try to find something with a little more of a Canadian flavour for my own site... for example - http://swordfight.org/images/roadnode-nhl.jpg ;) xo philip http://swordfight.org http://hotaction.ca/destroy On 31-Aug-05, at 1:50 PM, videoblogging@yahoogroups.com wrote: Message: 20 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:57:07 -0400 From: Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Road Node Badge Design Hey, Joel, Now we're gettin' somewhere. Any way to abstract the 'lens' so it would carry over to embroidery? This this works perfectly for web / graphical use - wow. Yes. Thanks! Here's a link to the logo Joel so kindly prepared: URL: http://roadnode101.urbanartadventures.com/images/road_node_joel.jpg Jan Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Road Node Badge Design
I've already heard someone on this list refer to the Road Node as Vlog Tour USA...) I would suggest that this road trip is more appropriately called Vlog Tour USA. In many ways we're still trying to figure out what Node101 actually *is*. Let's slow down a little here and think more high level about it before we go planning road trips and designing logos carrying the Node101 name. -Josh On 8/31/05, Philip Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... that highway sign is such a distinctly American symbol. (Plus I've already heard someone on this list refer to the Road Node as Vlog Tour USA...) I realize this is a U.S-centric movement but I think I might try to find something with a little more of a Canadian flavour for my own site... for example - http://swordfight.org/images/roadnode-nhl.jpg ;) xo philip http://swordfight.org http://hotaction.ca/destroy Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Road Node Badge Design
In many ways we're still trying to figure out what Node101 actually *is*. wiki: http://node101.org/community/index.php/Envisioning_Node_101#NODE101_Locations_.26_Projects -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://www.corante.com/events/feedfest/ aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Road Node Badge Design
We should take this discussion over to the node 101
list.
Jan
-- "It isn't done alone. Pay more." http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - Road
Node 101http://fauxpress.blogspot.com -
motionhttp://blog.urbanartadventures.com -
soundhttp://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com -
communityhttp://the-hold.blogspot.com -
literature.
- Original Message -
From:
Randolfe
Wicker
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 5:41
PM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Road
Node Badge Design
It is the idea that is important, not the
terminology. I'm happy with any term and design. However, I
personally think "Node 101" or "Road Node 101" is a bit obscure. Josh's
suggestion of "Vlog Tour USA" or even "Vlog Tour 101" or "Vlogoshere 101"
would better define what the object of all this is. Just my two
cents.
- Original Message -
From:
Jan
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 5:02
PM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Road
Node Badge Design
Hey, Josh,This is nothing more than a
commemorative badge for the Road Node 101 tour I'm originating.
Something to share, trade.Are you suggesting it
stop?Really?Jan-- "It isn't done alone. Pay
more."http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/
- Road Node 101http://fauxpress.blogspot.com -
motionhttp://blog.urbanartadventures.com
- soundhttp://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com
- communityhttp://the-hold.blogspot.com -
literature.- Original Message - From: "Joshua Kinberg"
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videoblogging@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005
2:21 PMSubject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Road Node Badge
Design I've already heard someone on this list refer to
the Road Node as "Vlog Tour USA...") I would
suggest that this road trip is more appropriately called "Vlog Tour
USA." In many ways we're still trying to figure out what
Node101 actually *is*. Let's slow down a little here and
think more high level about it before we go planning road trips and
designing logos carrying the Node101 name.
-Josh
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