Re: [Vietlug] Ve^` lo+'p ho.c Linux ta.i tru+o+`ng DHSP

2004-10-18 Hội thoại 0xdeface

--- Larry Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Go-Global  (http://graphon.com) co' ho^~ tro+.
 Nhu+ng
  ke.t ca'i na`y
  to^'n tie^`n.
  Ne^'u chi.u kho' xa`i trial 30 nga`y, he^'t la.i
  dda(ng ky' tie^'p (chi?
  to^.i ca'i pha?i du`ng nhie^`u mail).
 
  Viet Hung
 
 vnc cu~ng ok roi ba'c. Ta.i ho^m thu+? cho qua ssh
 ne^n no' ho+i cha^.m :(
 DDang ti'nh thu+? nomanmachine. Nghe bo.n no' ba?o
 ca'i na`y va` Citrix la`
 hai ca'i nhanh nha^'t hie^.n nay.
 

nomachine (nomachine.com) cha.y cu+.c ky` ngon, tro+n
nhu+ bo^i mo+~ va^.y\. vnc kho^ng sa'nh ddu+o+.c vo+'i
nomachine dda^u, ba'c cu+' thu+? xem.

Em du`ng mo^.t ca'i ma'y o+? xa la`m nomachine server,
cha.y qua ADSL ma` co' ca?m gia'c nhu+ ngo^`i o+?
console va^.y. Ba^y gio+` nga^~m kho^ng hie^?u bao
gio+` vnc se~ tuye^.t chu?ng ;-)

nomachine protocol cu~ng ho^~ tro+. encryption
(built-in) ne^n ve^` an toa`n thi` ye^n ta^m.

Ba'c na`o muo^'n thu+? nomachine tre^n Fedora thi` xem
o+? dda^y:
http://fedoranews.org/contributors/rick_stout/freenx/

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Re: [Vietlug] Re: VietLUG e-zine: Loi nhuan hay phi loi nhuan

2004-10-15 Hội thoại 0xdeface
Ve^` chuye^.n lo+.i nhua^.n hay kho^ng lo+.i nhua^.n,
em tha^'y co' nhie^`u y' kie^'n. Tuy nhie^n hie^.n nay
co~ le~ chu+a pha?i la` tho+`i ddie^?m chi'n cho mo^.t
to+` ba'o thu+o+ng ma.i nhu+ va^.y. Cho ne^n gio+`
cu+' ta.m tho+`i coi e-zine la` phi lo+.i nhua^.n, cho
no' ra ddo+`i dda~, ro^`i sau na`y khi dda~ pha't
trie^?n ho+n ta se~ nha^.n ddi.nh la.i ti`nh hi`nh
mo^.t ca'ch ro~ ra`ng va` chi'nh xa'c ho+n.

Co' y' kie^'n cho ra(`ng ca'c ba`i ba'o vie^'t va`
cung ca^'p theo tu+ tu+o+?ng mie^~n phi' se~ ke'm
cha^'t lu+o+.ng. Em kho^ng ddo^`ng ti`nh vo+'i y'
kie^'n na`y\. Ra^'t nhie^`u ba`i ba'o lo+.i nhua^.n
tre^n ca'c ba'o thu+o+ng ma.i cha(?ng co' gi` dda(.c
sa('c. Va` ne^'u suy die^~n nhu+ va^.y thi` ca'c ba'c
no'i nhie^`u pha^`n me^`m mie^~n phi', phi lo+.i
nhua^.n, thu+.c hie^.n chi? trong tho+`i gian ra?nh,
theo so+? thi'ch cu?a ta'c gia?, cu~ng la` ke'm cha^'t
lu+o+.ng sao ?

Be^n ca.nh ddo', cho du` dda~ co' nhu+~ng to+` ba'o
thu+o+ng ma.i ve^` ma~ nguo^`n mo+?, e-zine phi lo+.i
nhua^.n va^~n se~ co' cho^~ ddu+'ng cu?a no'. No'
va^~n co' nhu+~ng lo+.i the^' va` u+u ddie^?m ma`
mo^.t to+` ba'o thu+o+ng ma.i kho^ng the^? co'
ddu+o+.c. 

Em nghi~ ne^'u chu'ng ta ne^'u co' gi` dde^? tu+.
ha`o, thi` ddo' chi'nh la` sa?n pha^?m cu?a ca? co^.ng
ddo^`ng, ma` chu'ng ta ddang ba`n o+? dda^y, chu+'
kho^ng pha?i la` mo^.t to+` ba'o thu+o+ng ma.i chi?
cu?a mo^.t nho'm nho?.

To'm la.i dda~ tha^'y kha? thi, va` mi`nh thi'ch thi`
cu+' ba('t tay va`o la`m tho^i ca'c ba'c nhi? ;-)

Na`o anh em ta\
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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

2004-10-14 Hội thoại 0xdeface
^.t ban to^?
 chu+'c ddu+o+.c ta^'t ca?
 members ba^`u le^n.  Nhu+ the^' khi ba^'t cu+' ai
 ho?i dde^'n VietLUG, ho.
 bie^'t ti`m dde^'n ngu+o+`i dda.i die^.n dde^? ba`n
 tha?o. 

Tru+o+'c ma('t e-zine se~ co' ban bie^n ta^.p la`
dda.i die^.n ba'c a.

 P.S.  Ma` thu+.c te^' ho+n he^'t la` ma^'y ba'c
 vie^'t ba`i cho ma^'y to+`
 ba'o Windows la` hay nha^'t ta.i vi` ddo' la` no+i
 co' nhie^`u ddo^.c gia?
 ho+n ai he^'t :)

he^ he^ ddang ba`n Linux ma` la.i sang Windows ho+i
off-topic ro^`i\.

Y' kie^'n na`y cu~ng gio^'ng nhu+ ba'c gi` dda~ no'i:
ngu+o+`i ta so^'ng vi` Danh va` Lo+.i\. Nhu+ng thu+.c
ra va^.y chu+a ddu?: co' nhu+~ng so+? thi'ch kho^ng
lie^n quan gi` to+'i danh va` lo+.i ca?. Thi' du. em
thi'ch ddu+o+.c trao ddo^?i, ho.c ho?i va` ddo'ng go'p
chu't gi` ddo' cho co^.ng ddo^`ng ma` kho^ng quan ta^m
gi` to+'i danh lo+.i\. Cha(?ng pha?i ra^'t nhie^`u
ca'c OSS project co' cha^'t lu+o+.ng hie^.n nay co'
cu`ng xua^'t pha't ddie^?m nhu+ va^.y sao\?

Ro~ ra`ng mo^.t ba`i vie^'t co' cha^'t lu+o+.ng co'
the^? gu+?i cho ba^'t ky` to+` ba'o na`o == mang la.i
lo+.i nhua^.n cho ta'c gia?. Chi'nh vi` va^.y ma`
e-zine ddang ke^u go.i su+. ddo'ng go'p ti`nh
nguye^.n, kho^ng vu. lo+.i tu+` ta^'t ca? mo.i
ngu+o+`i ;-)

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Re: [Vietlug] Re: VietLUG e-zine: Loi nhuan hay phi loi nhuan

2004-10-14 Hội thoại 0xdeface

--- Nguyen Duc Kinh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Chuye^.n ca^`n ba`n la` ai se~ ddo'ng go'p co^ng
 cu?a dde^? host
  ca'i e-zine na`y.  Nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ddo'ng go'p
 ba`i vo+? se~ ma^'t
  thi` gio+` nhu+ng i't nha^'t ho. kho^ng pha?i bo?
 tie^`n tu'i. Admin
  server mo+'i me^.t, vi` khi ba('t dda^`u co'
 nhie^`u ngu+o+`i va`o
  la` chu'ng ta se~ pha?i co' server rie^ng mo+'i
 co' ddu? ba(ng
  tho^ng.
  Ro^`i co`n pha?i ddo^'i dda^`u vo+'i hacker va`o
 ddu.c dde~o hay DOS
  attack.  Server be`o nha^'t cu~ng pha?i khoa?ng
 $80/tha'ng, chu+a co'
  DOS firewall gi` ca?, ai se~ tra? dda^y ?
 
 Bo? dda^y to+' host cho. Server nha` tro^`ng
 ddu+o+.c. DDu+o+`ng truye^`n
 ca'p quang to^'c ddo^. 100MBs cha(?ng share vo+'i
 tha(`ng na`o he^'t. The^'
 la` ddo+~ ddu+o+.c i't nha^'t $80/tha'ng nha'.

Hay la('m, i't nha^'t ne^'u kho^ng host tre^n
vnlinux.org thi` ba'c la`m mirror cu~ng ddu+o+.c
dda^'y\. 

Ma` ne^'u nga.i ve^` chi phi' cho vie^.c hosting, sao
kho^ng dda(ng ky' tre^n sf.net nhi? 

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Re: [Vietlug] To'm ta('t vie^.c la`m VietLUG e-zine

2004-10-14 Hội thoại 0xdeface

--- Larry Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 mo^~i mo^.t 3 tha'ng pha't ha`nh mo^.t ba?n, ba('t
 dda^`u va`o tha'ng 1
 na(m 2005. Nhu+ng ne^'u ba`i dda^`u ta co' ddu+o+.c
 nhie^`u
 topics/submissions thi` ra^'t co' kha? na(ng ra
 ma('t so+'m ho+n.

Em nghi~ ca'i mo^'c 1/2005 la` ho+.p ly', vi` tho+`i
gian to+'i ddo' cu~ng chi? vu+`a ddu? dde^? chua^?n
bi. tho^i\. Ma(.t kha'c ca'i mo^'c na`y cu~ng co'
chu't y' nghi~a\.

Ca'i co' the^? thay ddo^?i chi'nh la` khoa?ng tho+`i
gian giu+~a ca'c so^' ra: ne^'u co' nhie^`u ngu+o+`i
ddo'ng go'p no^.i dung thi` ta co' the^? ru't tu+` 3
tha'ng xuo^'ng tha`nh 2 tha'ng hay 1.5 tha'ng cha(?ng
ha.n. 1 tha'ng thi` co' le~ ho+i ga^'p qua'.

Thu+.c ra khoa?ng ca'ch 3 tha'ng co' le~ ho+i xa, vi`
va^.y nhie^`u tho^ng tin muo^'n dda(ng khi ddo' se~
kho^ng co`n co' gia' tri. Tho^i cu+' dde^? la`m so^' 1
xong ro^`i ti'nh toa'n ddie^`u chi?nh la.i sau\.

 
 2. Co' ra^'t nhie^`u ba.n se~ tham gia vie^'t ba`i
 nhu+ng trong Ban To^?
 Chu+'c thi` co`n ho+i i't. Hie^.n ta.i chi? co'
 khoa?ng 5 ngu+o+`i. Hy
 vo.ng se~ co' ngu+o+`i tham gia nu+~a. Chi tie^'t
 ve^` nhie^.m vu. cu?a
 tha`nh vie^n BTC la`m nhu+~ng gi` thi` oxdeface se~
 tho^ng ba'o so+'m.

Ki'nh ba'c va` ca'c ba'c kha'c: nick cu?a em la`
0xdeface chu+' kho^ng pha?i oxdeface -- meaningless
;-)

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Re: [Vietlug] Ca'c chuye^n mu.c cho e-zine

2004-10-14 Hội thoại 0xdeface
, va` co' the^? chia
nhau dda'nh gia' va` gu+?i la.i pha?n ho^`i cho ta'c
gia? dde^? co' nhu+~ng chi?nh su+?a ca^`n thie^'t.

Ba'c Larry chua^?n bi. la`m ca'i mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ddi ;-)

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Re: [Vietlug] Re: VietLUG e-zine: Loi nhuan hay phi loi nhuan

2004-10-14 Hội thoại 0xdeface

--- Larry Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Co' le~ mo^~ mo^.t e-zine ma` chi? co' mo^.t topic
 (vo+'i nhie^`u ba`i
 kha'c nhau) thi` cu~ng kho^ng hay la('m.  DDo' chi?
 la` y' mi`nh. Ca'c ba'c
 kha'c tha^'y sao?

Vie^.c mo^~i so^' co' mo^.t chu? dde^` xuye^n suo^'t
la` mo^.t y' kie^'n ra^'t hay, nhu+ng co' le~ chi?
thu+.c hie^.n ddu+o+.c khi tri`nh ddo^. to^? chu+'c
dda~ cao va` so^' ngu+o+`i ddo'ng go'p no^.i dung dda~
ddo^ng. Hie^.n nay khi chu+a co' gi` thi` va^'n dde^`
na`y chu+a the^? quye^'t ddi.nh ddu+o+.c. Cu+' ra
mo^.t va`i so^' mi`nh se~ nha^.n ddi.nh la.i ti`nh
hi`nh sau cu~ng chu+a muo^.n ba'c a.

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RE: [Vietlug] Lam sao viet script de telnet tu dong

2004-10-14 Hội thoại 0xdeface

--- Hoang Anh Tuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Mi`nh dda~ ti`m ra gia?i pha'p.
  Du`ng expect dde^? tu+. ddo^.ng send user  pass
 cho
  no'.
  
 
 Expect la` ca'i gi` va^.y ba'c. La`m sao dde^? su+?
 du.ng no'?

Ba'c tham kha?o expect o+? dda^y
http://expect.nist.gov/

A` co`n que^n ma^'t ca'i na`y: Ngoa`i expect, cfengine
cu~ng la` mo^.t gia?i pha'p to^'t cho va^'n dde^` cu?a
ba'c Viet Hung: http://www.cfengine.org/

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Re: [OT] Re: [Vietlug] Re: VietLUG e-zine: Loi nhuan hay phi loi nhuan

2004-10-14 Hội thoại 0xdeface

--- Pham Kim Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tho^i ca'c ba'c cho to^i xin, ddu'ng la` to^.i la('m
 mo^`m tha^.t :). To^i kho^ng ddu?
 su+'c dde^? cho 1 cha^n va`o editor board dda^u\.

Em thi` tha^'y ba'c qua' i't no'i :-) Va` board thi`
kho^ng pha?i vie^'t la'ch gi`, chi? bie^n ta^.p va`
dda'nh gia' tho^i ma`, ba'c cu+' khie^m to^'n :-)

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Re: [Vietlug] Re: VietLUG e-zine: Loi nhuan hay phi loi nhuan

2004-10-13 Hội thoại 0xdeface

--- Pham Kim Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To^i kho^ng theo do~i tu+` dda^`u, ca'c ba'c cho
 to^i a(n theo 1 mu.c: VietLUG
 weekly/monthly news dde^? to^?ng ho+.p nhu+~ng chu?
 dde^` no^?i ba^.t/ha^~p da^~n tre^n
 mailing list (gio^'ng Debian Weekly News)
 
 Long

Qua' hoan nghe^nh ba'c. Em xin phe'p dde^` cu+? ba'c
Long la`m mo^.t cha^n trong editor board.

Em nghi~ nhu+~ng ba'c na`o co' kha? na(ng va` co' mong
muo^'n tham gia editor board xin cho bie^'t y' kie^'n
luo^n. So^' lu+o+.ng ngu+o+`i trong board co' le~
khoa?ng 5-7 ngu+o+`i la` ho+.p ly'.

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Re: [Vietlug] Nha^n su+. la`m Vietlug e-zine

2004-10-13 Hội thoại 0xdeface

--- Thai Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Xin cha`o,
 /me kho^ng theo do~i dda^`y ddu? ca'i thread ve^`
 vietlug e-zine (do ca'i Yahoo! mail da.o na`y cu'
 999
 Unable to process your request mie^'t) ne^n ko
 bie^'t
 la` ne^'u muo^'n *u+'ng cu+? dde^? tham gia la`m
 ca'i
 e-zine thi` pha?i la`m sao? 

DDe^? u+'ng cu+? thi` co' le~ tru+o+'c he^'t ba'c ne^n
ddo.c la.i y' kie^'n cu?a mo.i ngu+o+`i khi ba`n ve^`
va^'n dde^` na`y dda~ (khoa?ng ho+n 50 ca'i mail)

Ba'c na`o tha^'y co' kha? na(ng xin cu+' tu+. u+'ng
cu+?. Ne^'u nhie^`u ngu+o+`i la`m ddu+o+.c qua', la.i
poll cho kha'ch quan nhi? ;-)

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Re: [Vietlug] Lam sao viet script de telnet tu dong

2004-10-13 Hội thoại 0xdeface

--- Viet Hung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Cha`o Hu`ng,
 
  Hu`ng ne^n xa`i SSH ddi.
  Vo+'i SSH Hu`ng co' the^? du`ng public key
 authentication tha`nh ra 
  kho^ng ca^`n du`ng dde^'n
  user/pass nu+~a.
  Co' the^? xa`i the^m keychain du`ng dde^? lu+u
 ca'c
 key kho?i pha?i 
  go~ la.i passphrase cho private key.
  Vi' du. cho OpenSSH version 2:
  Ta.o ra key pair (public/private key)
  # ssh-keygen -t dsa  -C my key
  go~ va`o passphrase cho ca'i private key
  Ca`i va`o the^m ca'i keychain dde^? khi log va`o
 thi` keychain se~ 
  lu+u ca'i private key mo^.t la^`n ma` tho^i.
 
  Tre^n server ca`i va`o ssh server.
  Trong file /etc/ssh/sshd_config ba?o dda?m ra(`ng
 co' do`ng sau.
 
  PubkeyAuthentication yes
 
  Du`ng #scp publickey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/
  #ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  #cat publickey  ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2
 
  Khi dda~ ke^'t thu'c thi` Hu`ng co' the^? du`ng
 le^.nh # ssh 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] dde^? log in la` xong :)
 
  Nguye^~n Duy Tho.
 
 Mi`nh dda~ ti`m ra gia?i pha'p.
 Du`ng expect dde^? tu+. ddo^.ng send user  pass cho
 no'.
 

ddu'ng, expect la` mo^.t gia?i pha'p to^'t cho nhu+~ng
tru+o+`ng ho+.p ca^`n tu+. ddo^.ng ho'a ca'c
interactive operation giu+~a ngu+o+`i du`ng va` ma'y\.

Tuy nhie^n tha^'y ca'i na`y kho^ng the^? kho^ng ho?i
ba'c: ba'c du`ng telnet qua internet dde^? truy nha^.p
ma'y ti'nh, va^.y ba'c nghi~ co' khoa?ng bao nhie^u
ngu+o+`i bie^'t username/password cu?a ba'c (va` co'
the^? la`m gi` tu`y thi'ch tre^n ca'i ma'y ddo')?
U+o+'c ti'nh 1 ty? ngu+o+`i, 2 ngu+o+`i ty? hay
nhie^`u ho+n the^' nu+~a ?? 

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Re: [Vietlug] Re: VietLUG e-zine: Loi nhuan hay phi loi nhuan

2004-10-11 Hội thoại 0xdeface
hi,

Khi co' y' tu+o+?ng ve^` e-zine, em luo^n nghi~ no'
la` mo^.t sa?n pha^?m cu?a community\. Vie^.c ti`m
kie^'m lo+.i nhua^.n, du` la` dde^? duy tri` no' cu~ng
co' nhie^`u ddie^`u ca^`n ba`n. DDa^y la` mo^.t trong
nhu+~ng ddie^?m ga^y tranh ca'i nha^'t, va` ca^`n ddi
to+'i tho^'ng nha^'t tru+o+'c khi ba('t tay va`o
thu+.c hie^.n nhu+~ng du+. ddi.nh kha'c.

Ba'c Phong va` ca'c ba'c kha'c pha't bie^?u da`i,
nhu+ng to'm go.n la.i mo^.t ca^u thi` la` : Lo+.i
nhua^.n la` ddo^.ng lu+.c thu'c dda^?y nhie^`u thu+'
;-) Tuy nhie^n, ne^'u tuye^n bo^' ngay ba^y gio+` la`
e-zine co' mu.c tie^u lo+.i nhua^.n thi` sao\? Ta se~
nhi`n tha^'y ngay mo^.t so^' va^'n dde^` sau dda^y -
ca'c ba'c thu+? gia?i quye^'t xem nhe':

- Ne^'u co' lo+.i nhua^.n, ca'c ba'c se~ tra? tie^`n
bao nhie^u cho mo^.t ba`i vie^'t, co^ng xa' cu?a ban
bie^n ta^.p the^' na`o\? Ke^u go.i mo.i ngu+o+`i
ddo'ng go'p vo+'i lo+`i hu+'a Bao gio+` co' tie^`n
thi` tra? ca? vo^'n la^~n la~i nhe', cu+' ye^n chi'
thi` em tha^'y kho^ng lo.t tai ;-)

- Lo+.i nhua^.n sinh ra se~ va`o tu'i ai\? Chia cha'c
the^' na`o\? Va^'n dde^` na`y co`n kho' gia?i quye^'t
ho+n va^'n dde^` ne^u tre^n.

Ne^'u dda~ tuye^n bo^' e-zine la` cu?a co^.ng ddo^`ng
va` do co^.ng ddo^`ng thi` no' la` cu?a chung, ma`
dda~ la` cu?a ta^'t ca? mo.i ngu+o+`i thi` kho^ng
the^? chia lo+.i nhua^.n ddu+o+.c. Co`n ne^'u la` cu?a
mo^.t nho'm ngu+o+`i thi` mo.i vie^.c ddo+n gia?n ho+n
nhie^`u, va` mo.i ngu+o+`i be^n ngoa`i se~ tham gia
vi` mu.c ddi'ch kinh te^'. Tuy nhie^n nhu+ va^.y
e-zine kho^ng co`n la` cu?a chung nu+~a, va` vi` va^.y
se~ kho^ng ca^`n thie^'t ddu+a ra ba`n co^ng khai
the^' na`y\.

DDa^'y la` mo^.t trong nhu+~ng va^'n dde^` ra^'t kho'
gia?i quye^'t ne^'u tuye^n bo^' la` e-zine sinh lo+.i
nhua^.n. Ma` ba^y gio+` no' co`n chu+a ra ddo+`i nu+~a
ki`a ;-)

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Re: [Vietlug] New poll cho VietLUG e-zine

2004-10-09 Hội thoại 0xdeface
Em go~ tie^'ng Vie^.t tru+.c tie^'p trong yahoo,
ddi.nh da.ng tho^ng ba'o ho+i me'o mo' te.o ;-) Ca'c
ba'c khi copy ra chi?nh su+?a la.i giu'p mo^.t chu't
nhe'.

Ca'm o+n ca'c ba'c.
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Re: [Vietlug] New Linux distro released

2004-10-09 Hội thoại 0xdeface
Chu'c mu+`ng ba'c dda~ le^n chu+'c ;-)

--- chairuou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 Nha^n di.p ki? nie^.m 50 na(m nga`y gia?i pho'ng
 thu? ddo^ Ha` No^.i
 (10/10/1954 - 10/10/2004 ) em  workmates dda~
 release 1 distro nho
 nho?, va`i dda(.c ti'nh nhu+ sau :
 size: 3,3 kg
 loa.i: dda'i ngo^`i ;)
 Ho^~ tro+. voice ra^'t to^'t ngay khi vu+`a cha.y
 thu+?
 support policy : life time ;)
 next version : planned 
 sau khi burn thi` ti`nh tra.ng CD to^'t :)
 
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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

2004-10-06 Hội thoại 0xdeface
Hi,

[OT]
Em kho^ng hie^?u sao la.i da^~n dde^'n tranh lua^.n
ve^` du`ng font gi` cho Vizine ha? ca'c ba'c? DDa^y
la` ta.p chi', thi` ddu+o+ng nhie^n la` du`ng font
Unicode chu+' co`n gi` nu+~a\? Va`i na(m tru+o+'c co'
the^? co`n kho' kha(n ve^` vie^.c ca`i dda(.t, ve^`
pha^`n me^`m ho^~ tro+., chu+' gio+` thi` Unicode
tha`nh chua^?n pho^? bie^'n ro^`i ma`.

Ba'c na`o co^' ma` va^~n kho^ng ca`i ddu+o+.c font,
chuye^?n sang du`ng ta.m Windows nhe' ;-)
[/OT]

Ca'c ba'c cu+' ddo'ng go'p y' kie^'n tie^'p ddi, em
se~ thu tha^.p va` to^?ng ho+.p la.i\.

Ba'c na`o o+? Sa`i Go`n va` Ha` No^.i nha('n (offline)
ca'c  tha`nh vie^n ga.o co^.i, cu`ng vo+'i 2 o^ng chu?
ti.ch LUG va`o dda^y ba`n chuye^.n ddu+o+.c kho^ng?

Ba'c Larry, ba'c la`m mo^.t ca'i poll tre^n site ddi
(o+? luo^n tapchi.vnlinux.org cha(?ng ha.n ;-) - dde^?
xem so^' ngu+o+`i sa(~n sa`ng ddo'ng go'p cho Vizine
la` bao nhie^u\?

No^.i dung the^' na`y cha(?ng ha.n: 
---
Vietlug ddang co' du+. ddi.nh cho ra ma(.t ddi.nh ky`
mo^.t ta.p chi' ddie^.n tu+? ve^` Linux va` ma~
nguo^`n mo+? vo+'i mu.c tie^u trao ddo^?i va` pho^?
bie^'n tho^ng tin, nha(`m pho^? bie^'n ho+n nu+~a
Linux va` ma~ nguo^`n mo+? to+'i co^.ng ddo^`ng. Quan
ddie^?m cu?a ba.n ra sao\?

1. To^i u?ng ho^. du+. ddi.nh na`y
2. To^i se~ tru+.c tie^'p tham gia to^? chu+'c va`
xa^y du+.ng no^.i dung ta.p chi'
3. Kho^ng co' y' kie^'n
---

DDu+o+.c kho^ng ca'c ba'c ;-)

Na`o anh em ta 
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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

2004-10-05 Hội thoại 0xdeface
Hi,

OK, e-zine chu+a co' te^n, em cu+' ta.m go.i no' la`
Vizine, vie^'t ta('t cu?a Vietlug e-zine cho nga('n
go.n ;-)

Ba'c James: ho'a ra la` dda~ tu+`ng co' y' tu+o+?ng
nhu+ the^' na`y tru+o+'c ro^`i, vi` la` em va`o list
sau ne^n kho^ng bie^'t. Ho+n 1 na(m dda~ tro^i qua, hy
vo.ng gio+` dda^y y' tu+o+?ng cu?a ba'c khi tru+o+'c
dda~ chi'n muo^`i dde^? co' the^? thu+.c hie^.n
ddu+o+.c :-)

Ba'c Phong: Ba'c co' nhu+~ng y' tu+o+?ng he^'t su+'c
sa^u sa('c. Em chi? muo^'n nha^'n ma.nh mo^.t ddie^`u:
Vizine ddu+o+.c xa^y du+.ng bo+?i co^.ng ddo^`ng, va`
cho co^.ng ddo^`ng ne^n mo^.t trong nhu+~ng tie^u chi'
cu?a no' la`: phi lo+.i nhua^.n, phi lo+.i nhua^.n va`
phi lo+.i nhua^.n. Ne^'u kho^ng thi` no' se~ kho^ng
co' ly' do gi` to^`n ta.i ca? (ma` chuye^?n sang mo^.t
da.ng kha'c ro^`i)

Ba'c Larry: Tre^n list na`y qua? tha^.t em kho^ng
bie^'t mo^.t ai, va` cu~ng kho^ng mo^.t ai bie^'t em.
Nhu+ng ddie^`u ddo' hoa`n toa`n kho^ng nga(n ca?n em
ddo'ng go'p cho co^.ng ddo^`ng, pha?i kho^ng ba'c?
Cu~ng nhu+ ba^'t ky` mo^.t OSS project na`o, ne^'u em
contribute code cho no' thi` cha('c cha('n em se~
ddu+o+.c cha`o ddo'n va` kho^ng ai ho?i em la` ai ca?.
Vietlug ne^'u ddu? lo+'n ma.nh thi` no' se~ kho^ng
co`n la` mo^.t nho'm nho? nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i quen bie^'t
nhau nu+~a\.

Ve^` vie^.c kho^ng co^ng: DDo^`ng y' tie^`n la` quan
tro.ng, nhu+ng cu~ng tu`y no+i cho^'n dde^` kie^'m
tie^`n. Em cha(?ng ha.n, tha^'y mi`nh hu+o+?ng lo+.i
vo^ so^' tu+` Linux va` ca'c sa?n pha^?m ma~ mo+?
kha'c. Nay se~ ra^'t ho+.p le~ va` tu+. nhie^n ne^'u
em mong muo^'n ddu+o+.c vo^ tu+ ddo'ng go'p la.i chu't
xi'u cho co^.ng ddo^`ng, vi` em kho^ng muo^'n xo+i
ca?, pha?i kho^ng ca'c ba'c ;-)

Em nghi~ gia? su+? (la.c quan) Vizine co' the^? tra?
mo^.t chu't cho ba`i vie^'t cu?a em, thi` cha('c chi?
ddu? dde^? uo^'ng ma^'y co^'c bia vo+'i ba.n be`.
Tho+`i gian dde^? vie^'t ddo' la`m ca'i kha'c co' le~
ra tie^`n ho+n, hoa(.c ne^'u kho^ng na(`m khe^?nh xem
phim, ddo'ng bo^. ddi ba't pho^' co`n su+o+'ng ho+n,
ne^n ne^'u ai muo^'n ddo'ng go'p thi` mu.c tie^u
cha('c kho^ng pha?i la` tie^`n, ddu'ng kho^ng ca'c
ba'c :-)

Ngoa`i le^` mo^.t chu't ve^` hacker: kho^ng ro~ ba'c
Larry quan nie^.m the^' na`o, nhu+ng ddo^'i vo+'i em
hacker la` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i co' kie^'n thu+'c, ky~
na(ng, va` li~nh vu+.c quan ta^m cu?a ho. la` an toa`n
tho^ng tin. Nhu+ va^.y thi` chi'nh ca'c ba'c ha`ng
nga`y dda~/ddang su+? du.ng nhie^`u sa?n pha^?m cu?a
ca'c hacker: nmap (a fingerprinting tool) la` mo^.t
vi' du.

Theo nghi~a ro^.ng cu?a tu+` hacker, thi` Linus va`
ca'c ddo^`ng ddo^.i xa^y du+.ng kernel la` ca'c hacker
o+? dda(?ng ca^'p cao nha^'t. Ma` ma~ nguo^`n dda~
mo+? ro^`i thi` ngu+o+`i vie^'t la` hacker hay kho^ng
dde^`u ddu+o+.c welcome pha?i kho^ng ca'c ba'c :-)

Co`n em thi` la^'y ca'i nick na`y cho vui tho^i,
tri`nh ddo^. thi` co`n pha?i ho.c ca'c ba'c da`i da`i,
co' bie^'t hack gi` dda^u :-)
 
Topic na`y co' mu.c ddi'ch la` ke^u go.i va` ti`m
kie^'m su+. ddo^`ng thua^.n cho vie^.c ra ddo+`i cu?a
Vizine\. Ne^'u tha^'y ne^'u dda~ ddu? co+ ho^.i thi`
ta xu'c tie^'n chuye^?n sang vie^.c xa'c ddi.nh mu.c
tie^u, ddi.nh hu+o+'ng, pha.m vi hoa.t ddo^.ng cu?a
Vizine\. Sau ddo' la` ba`n ve^` vie^.c to^? chu+'c
tha`nh la^.p ca'c bo^. pha^.n dde^? cho so^' #1 ra
ddo+`i :-)

Co`n nhie^`u ba'c hay post tre^n list va^~n chu+a
xua^'t hie^.n. Vizine la`m sao co' the^? ra ddo+`i ma`
kho^ng co' ca'c ba'c :-). Mong ca'c ba'c va`o dda^y
ddo'ng go'p cho y' tu+o+?ng na`y\.

Ma` ca'c ba'c chu? ti.ch SaigonLug va` HanoiLug dda^u
ro^`i i' nhi? ?

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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

2004-10-05 Hội thoại 0xdeface
Hi,

Em nghi~ la` ne^'u la`m thi` cu+' du~ng ca?m ba('t tay
va`o tho^i, tho+`i gian dda^`u cha('c cha('n la` kho'
kha(n: va.n su+. kho+?i dda^`u nan. Tuy nhie^n sau
ddo' khi dda~ co' dda` ro^`i thi` vie^.c duy tri`
Vizine kho^ng kho' la('m.

Mo^.t trong nhu+~ng ddie^`u lo nga.i nha^'t la` i't
ba`i vo+?. Thu+.c ra vo+'i no^.i dung la` pho^? bie^'n
kinh nghie^.m, trao ddo^`i tho^ng tin, e-zine thi`
informal thi` vie^'t ba`i dda^u co' kho'. Cha(?ng ha.n
cu. maikhai sau 1 tua^`n va^.t va~ vo+'i YOper, muo^'n
nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i kha'c tra'nh ve^'t xe ddo^? cu?a cu.,
co' the^? la`m mo^.t qua? YOper va` 7 nga`y ma^'t
ngu?. Kinh nghie^.m ve^` tha^'t ba.i co' khi co`n
quan tro.ng ho+n kinh nghie^.m ve^` nhu+~ng tha`nh
co^ng ;-)

Tho+`i gian dda^`u co' the^? dda(.t tru+.c tie^'p
mo^.t so^' ba'c vie^'t ba`i, cha(?ng ha.n (thi' du.
cho vui ;-)
- Chim ca'nh cu.t o+? xu+' so+? ma(.t tro+`i mo.c
(ba'c James)
- Pha^`n me^`m ma~ nguo^`n mo+? u+'ng du.ng trong y
te^' (ba'c Tha`nh, chu? ti.ch HanoiLug)
- Tex va` tie^'ng Vie^.t (ba'c Vnpenguine)

Em nghi~ la` Vietlug co`n ra^'t nhie^`u ngu+o+`i im
la(.ng tham gia list, lo+'n ho+n nhie^`u so^' va^~n
post le^n list ha`ng nga`y\. Em tro^ng cho+` va`o
tie^`m na(ng kho^ng ngo+` cu?a co^.ng ddo^`ng - hy
vo.ng no' se~ mang la.i cho chu'ng ta mo^.t su+. nga.c
nhie^n thu' vi. :-)

Ngoa`i nhu+~ng ddie^`u dda~ ba`n, mo^.t so^' lo+.i
i'ch kha'c ma` Vizine se~ mang la.i:

- DDu+a la.i mo^.t phu+o+ng tie^.n trao ddo^?i tho^ng
tin o+? mo^.t mu+'c cao ho+n: Hie^.n nay phu+o+ng
tie^.n trao ddo^?i chu? ye^'u va^~n la` mailing list,
tu+'c la` kho^ng kha'c gi` so vo+'i nga`y dda^`u\.
Nhu+ng da^`n da^`n co^.ng ddo^`ng lo+'n ma.nh ho+n,
chi? ML rie^ng kho^ng co`n la` ddu? nu+~a\. Ne^'u ai
muo^'n chia se~ tho^ng tin nhu+ vie^'t ba`i gio+'i
thie^.u da`i va` co' ti'nh chuye^n sa^u ve^` kinh
nghie^.m cu?a mi`nh thi` ML chu+a ha(?n dda~ thi'ch
ho+.p. Em xin la^'y mo^.t vi' du.: ai cu~ng bie^'t
ba'c Phan The^' Trung la` mo^.t ngu+o+`i ra^'t nhie^.t
ti`nh. DDe^? gio+'i thie^.u GnuPG, ba'c pha?i cho+`
to+'i FOSS day, nhu+ng no' chi? xa?y ra co' 1 na(m 1
la^`n tho^i. Co' the^? ba'c Trung co`n ra^'t nhie^`u
ddie^`u muo^'n no'i, nhu+ng kho^ng bie^'t the^? hie^.n
o+? dda^u. Ne^'u co' Vizine, ta co' the^? ddu+o+.c
thu+o+?ng thu+'c nhie^`u ho+n ca'c kinh nghie^.m quy'
ba'u cu?a ba'c ;-)

- DDo'ng go'p cho co^.ng ddo^`ng ddu+o+.c nhie^`u ho+n
nu+~a: Hie^.n nay Vietlug do chi? la` mo^.t nho'm trao
ddo^?i tho^ng tin tre^n ML la` chu? ye^'u, bao go^`m
ha^`u he^'t la` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ye^u thi'ch va` ha`nh
nghe^` CNTT, ne^n ta'c du.ng va` a?nh hu+o+?ng cu?a
no' to+'i co^.ng ddo^`ng co`n ha.n che^'. Vizine se~
la` mo^.t phu+o+ng thu+'c pho^? bie^'n ro^.ng ho+n
i'ch lo+.i cu?a ma~ nguo^`n mo+?.

- Quy tu. anh em ve^` mo^.t mo^'i: Hie^.n co' kha'
nhie^`u forum mo+? ra vo+'i quan ta^m la` Linux va`
ma~ nguo^`n mo+?, mo^~i no+i co' nhu+~ng mu.c ddi'ch
va` ddi.nh hu+o+'ng kha'c nhau\. Vizine co' the^? la`
mo^.t no+i quy tu. kho^ng pha^n bie^.t dde^? mo.i
ngu+o+`i trao ddo^?i tho^ng tin. Ly' do la` vi` mo+?
forum thi` chi? ca^`n mo^.t nho'm nho?, nhu+ng dde^?
la`m e-zine thi` cha('c cha('n la` ca^`n su+. ddo'ng
go'p cu?a ca? co^.ng ddo^`ng.

- Go'p pha^`n va`o vie^.c chua^?n ho'a thua^.t ngu+~
tie^'ng Vie^.t: Vie^'t mo^.t ba`i ba'o su+? du.ng
ngo^n ngu+~ thua^`n Vie^.t, i't la.m du.ng ca'c
thua^.t ngu+~ tie^'ng Anh kho^ng pha?i la` de^~. Mo^.t
trong nhu+~ng quan ta^m lo+'n cu?a mo.i ngu+o+`i la`
vie^.c Vie^.t ho'a ca'c u+'ng du.ng ma~ mo+?, dde^?
pho^? bie^'n ho+n nu+~a OSS cho co^.ng ddo^`ng. Vizine
ra ddo+`i se~ go'p pha^`n na`o va`o vie^.c chua^?n
ho'a vie^.c su+? du.ng ca'c thua^.t ngu+~, ma` hie^.n
nay ddang ra^'t lo^.n xo^.n o+? Vie^.t Nam.


So+ so+ the^', vie^.c nghi~a nhi`n tha^'y kha'
nhie^`u\ :-) Thay vi` chu? ye^'u chi? la` no+i trao
ddo^?i tho^ng tin, sao Vietlug kho^ng ba('t tay va`o
la`m mo^.t ca'i gi` cu. the^? ho+n, mang la.i nhie^`u
lo+.i i'ch ho+n. Ca'i ddo' chi'nh la` ca'i chu'ng ta
ddang ba`n o+? dda^y ;-)

Na`o anh em ta ..

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[Vietlug] Vietlug e-zine, why not?

2004-10-04 Hội thoại 0xdeface
Cha`o ca'c ba'c,

Vietlug vo+'i tu+ ca'ch la` mo^.t co^.ng ddo^`ng mo+?
cu?a nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i Vie^.t Nam su+? du.ng Linux
cu~ng nhu+ ca'c pha^`n me^`m ma~ mo+? tre^n Linux
hie^.n dda~ hi`nh tha`nh ddu+o+.c mo^.t tho+`i gian
(va`i na(m ?) va` cu~ng i't nhie^`u ddu+o+.c bie^'t
to+'i\. Tuy nhie^n co' ca?m gia'c ne^'u kho^ng co'
nhu+~ng bu+o+'c ddo^.t pha' ho+n nu+~a thi` a?nh
hu+o+?ng va` su+. pha't trie^?n cu?a Vietlug kho' co'
the^? sa^u ro^.ng va` ma.nh me~ nhu+ chu'ng ta ha(`ng
mong ddo+.i. Em cho ra(`ng Vietlug luo^n cho+` ddo+i
nhie^`u sa'ng kie^'n ho+n nu+~a, ca^`n nhie^`u su+.
nhie^.t ti`nh ho+n nu+~a tu+` ca'c tha`nh vie^n. 

Sa'ng kie^'n thi` ca^`n nhie^`u, em xin co' mo^.t y'
nho? the^' na`y: Vietlug co' kha' nhie^`u ngu+o+`i co'
nhie^`u kinh nghie^.m, ta^m huye^'t va` cu~ng co'
mo^.t so^' dda~ va` ddang thu+.c hie^.n nhu+~ng
nghie^n cu+'u pha't trie^?n, xa^y du+.ng ca'c sa?n
pha^?m cho co^.ng ddo^`ng tre^n Linux. Se~ ra^'t thu'
vi. ne^'u ta la`m mo^.t ca'i e-zine (magazine da.ng
ddie^.n tu+?, co' in xua^'t ba?n kho^ng thi` ba`n
sau), va`i ba tha'ng ra mo^.t so^'. E-zine se~ ke^u
go.i mo.i ngu+o+`i ddo'ng go'p ba`i vie^'t ve^` ca'c
kinh nghie^.m, kie^'n thu+'c muo^'n pho^? bie^'n cho
mo.i ngu+o+`i\. Mo^~i so^' chi? ca^`n da(m ba?y ba`i
la` ddu+o+.c. DDe^` ta`i dde^? vie^'t ba`i thi` co'
le~ la` vo^ kho^'i: Nguye^n chuye^.n chi? ca^`n ba'm
sa't su+. pha't trie^?n cu?a Linux va` ca'c sa?n
pha^?m tre^n no' cu~ng dda~ ddu? he^'t ho+i\.

Du+. ddi.nh tre^n hoa`n toa`n co' the^? thu+.c hie^.n
ddu+o+.c, va` se~ co' ta'c du.ng to^'t dde^? ta^.p
ho+.p tho^ng tin, kie^'n thu+'c, kinh nghie^.m mo^.t
ca'ch co' ddi.nh hu+o+'ng, vi` hie^.n nay ca'c tho^ng
tin va` kinh nghie^.m ddu+o+.c chia se~ tre^n ca'c
forum hay tre^n chi'nh ML na`y kha' ro+`i ra.c, kho'
theo do~i\.

E-zine co' the^? tro+? ne^n mo^.t phu+o+ng tie^.n
ngo^n lua^.n cu?a Vietlug(!!!), tha`nh mo^.t sa^n
cho+i bo^? i'ch va` thu' vi. cho ta^'t ca? mo.i
ngu+o+`i\. (e-zine must be by community, and for
community)

Em tin ra(`ng mo^.t e-zine nhu+ va^.y se~ thu'c dda^?y
Vietlug pha't trie^?n ho+n nu+~a, co' mo^.t a?nh
hu+o+?ng sa^u ro^.ng ho+n nu+~a trong co^.ng ddo^`ng
IT cu~ng nhu+ trong xa~ ho^.i\. 

Mong ca'c ba'c cho y' kie^'n.
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Re: [Vietlug] RE: Vietlug e-zine, why not?

2004-10-04 Hội thoại 0xdeface
--- Pham Thanh Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nhu+ va^.y thi` va^'n dde^` bay gio+` la` pha?i
 ba^`u ra mo^.t ban
 bie^n ta^.p. Ban bie^n ta^.p ngoa`i vie^.c ddie^`u
 ha`nh, bie^n
 ta^.p... co`n co' tra'ch nhie^.m tru+o+'c tie^n la`
 tha`nh la^.p ca'c
 chuye^n mu.c (ne^n tham kha?o y' kie^'n cu?a mo.i
 ngu+o+`i tru+o+'c
 khi quye^'t ddi.nh :D ).

Ba'c no'i chi'nh ho+.p y' em. Tru+o+'c he^'t ta ca^`n
xa'c ddi.nh ro~ mu.c tie^u, ddi.nh hu+o+'ng, tie^u
chi', pha.m vi hoa.t ddo^.ng cu?a e-zine.

Tie^'p ddo' dde^` cu+? mo^.t ho^.i ddo^`ng bie^n ta^.p
go^`m nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i co' kinh nghie^.m, nhie^.t
ti`nh - vo+'i nhie^.m vu. quye^'t ddi.nh ba`i dda(ng
tre^n e-zine, ddi.nh hu+o+'ng va` chu? dde^` cu?a ca'c
so^' ra, ca'c chuye^n mu.c,..v.v\.

Ve^` no^.i dung cu?a so^' #1 co' the^? nhu+ the^' na`y
(thi' du. vui tho^i, cho anh em de^~ hi`nh dung ;-)
- Ho^`i ky' cu?a ca'c ba^.c la~o la`ng Vietlug ve^`
li.ch su+? va` qua' pha't trie^?n cu?a Vietlug ( cu?a
ca'c ba'c Larry, ba'c Nguye^~n DDa.i Quy', ba'c Ha`n
The^' Tha`nh...) (*)
- Ta^m su+. ki'n cu?a ba'c La^m, ta'c gia? xvnkb (*)
- Pho?ng va^'n rie^ng ba'c Long, ta'c gia? x-unikey
(*)
- Gio+'i thie^.u ve^` Linux security: ba'c Phan The^'
Trung
- Gio+'i thie^.u ve^` distro nhanh nha^'t the^' gio+'i
YOper (cu. maikhai)
- Hacking knoppix for fun  profit (cu. Hoa`n o+?
France)
- To^?ng ho+.p, pha^n ti'ch, dda'nh gia' ve^` ca'c
distro, ca'c sa?n pha^?m ma~ nguo^`n mo+?...

Em dda?m ba?o vo+'i ca'c ba'c ne^'u kho^ng co' e-zine,
kho^ng bao gio+` ta co' di.p thu+o+?ng thu+'c ca'c
ba`i vie^'t em dda'nh da^'u (*) o+? tre^n ta.i ba^'t
ky` forum na`o, hay tha^.m chi' ca? tre^n chi'nh ML
na`y.

Gi` thi` gi` ba'c na`o co' ba`i tre^n e-zine se~ tro+?
tha`nh tha^`n tu+o+.ng cu?a em ;-), va` se~ la` ta^'m
gu+o+ng ve^` su+. ddam me^ ho.c ho?i cho nhie^`u
tha`nh vie^n Vietlug kha'c, qua ddo' thu'c dda^?y su+.
pha't trie^?n cu?a Linux va` ma~ nguo^`n mo+? ho+n
nu+~a trong co^.ng ddo^`ng.

E-zine se~ dda(.t mo^.t da^'u mo^'c mo+'i cho su+.
pha't trie^?n cu?a Vietlug.

Mo+`i ca'c ba'c cho y' kie^'n the^m. Ra^'t mong ta^'t
ca? ca'c ba'c dda~ ddo.c ve^` topic na`y reply go'p y'
- chi' i't cu~ng la` dde^? cho bie^'t ddo^`ng ti`nh
u?ng ho^. hay kho^ng cho su+. ra ddo+`i cu?a Vietlug
e-zine\.

Xin ca?m o+n,
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Re: [Vietlug] Dong lenh nay la gi

2004-09-10 Hội thoại 0xdeface
Hi,

 The world's most effective spam filter:
 ln -sf /dev/full /var/mail/$USER
Ca'i na`y nhi`n tha^'y ngo^., nhu+ng ma` dde^? nghi.ch
tho^i cu. a. Ke^'t qua? cu?a le^.nh na`y khie^'n ca'c
email ddu+a va`o inbox se~ bi. tu+` cho^'i ta^'t ta^`n
ta^.t, nhu+ va^.y ro~ ra`ng spam kho^ng bao gio+` lo.t
va`o ddu+o+.c. Tuy nhie^n ha^.u qua? la` ddo^`ng
tho+`i ca? mail ho+.p le^. cu~ng kho^ng bao gio+`
to+'i ngu+o+`i nha^.n luo^n :-)

Xin gia?i thi'ch cho cu. ro~ chu't: ln -sf la` ca^u
le^.nh ta.o lie^n ke^'t (softlink) giu+~a 2 file,
trong tru+o+`ng ho+.p na`y se~ khie^'n cho inbox
(/var/mail/$USER) tro? to+'i /dev/full. Do va^.y ca'c
email vo^'n chuye^?n va`o inbox se~ ddu+o+.c ddu+a
va`o /dev/full

Kho^ng ne^n nha^`m la^~n giu+~a /dev/null va`
/dev/full. DDa^y la` 2 thie^'t bi. (device) a?o dda(.c
bie^.t, chu+'c na(ng ho+i kha'c nhau ti' chu't:

/dev/null: du+~ lie^.u ddu+a va`o thie^'t bi. na`y se~
ddu+o+.c a^m tha^`m loa.i bo?, kho^ng mo^.t lo+`i
pha`n na`n (co' the^? thu+? cha(?ng ha.n ba(`ng
le^.nh: ls  /dev/null)

/dev/full: thie^'t bi. na`y luo^n tu+` cho^'i nha^.n
du+~ lie^.u nhu+ the^? no' dda~ dda^`y ro^`i\
(tu+o+?ng tu+o+.ng kie^?u nhu+ HDD dda^`y, kho^ng
the^? copy the^m va`o nu+~a va^.y). Do ddo' ke^'t qua?
cu?a mo.i le^.nh ddu+a du+~ lie^.u va`o thie^'t bi.
/dev/full se~ nha^.n ddu+o+.c lo+`i pha`n na`n No
space left on device (co' the^? thu+? cha(?ng ha.n
ba(`ng le^.nh ls  /dev/full)

Nhu+ va^.y ca^u le^.nh cu?a guru tre^n kia se~
khie^'n he^. tho^'ng sau khi tu+` cho^'i nha^.n thu+
thi` ke`m theo mo^.t ca^u ca(`n nha(`n. Co`n ne^'u
lie^n ke^'t inbox vo+'i /dev/null thi` ngu+o+`i du`ng
se~ kho^ng pha?i nha^.n mo^.t ca^u 
 pha`n na`n na`o ca?. 

Ta^'t ca? cu~ng chi? la` dde^? cho vui tho^i cu. a. Hy
vo.ng cu. kho^ng co`n tha('c ma('c gi` nu+~a ;-)

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PS. Ma` co^ng nha^.n cu. (nghe no'i) cao tuo^?i ro^`i
ma` co`n chi.u kho' ma`y mo` tha^.t dda^'y, cha'u
ra^'t la` kha^m phu.c ;-)



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RE: [Vietlug] Highmem la gi?

2004-09-08 Hội thoại 0xdeface
--- #NGUYEN THANH NAM# [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 HIGHMEM la` memory tu+` 4GB tro+? le^n.

Highmem tro? to+'i vu`ng nho+' tu+` 1GB tro+? ra,
chu+' kho^ng pha?i 4G. 

Nguye^n nha^n co' highmem la` vi` tre^n x86
architecture (32 bit), kho^ng gian vu`ng nho+' a?o
gio+'i ha.n trong khoa?ng 4GB. (Vanilla) kernel chia
vu`ng na`y la`m 2 khu'c: tu+` 0-3GB-1 cho u+'ng du.ng
(go.i la` userspace) va` 3GB-4GB cho kernel (go.i la`
kernelspace). Kernel se~ a'nh xa. (map) vu`ng nho+'
va^.t ly' (physical memory), va` do khu'c da`nh cho
kernel chi? la` 1GB ne^n ta.i mo^.t tho+`i ddie^?m
kernel chi? co' the^? truy nha^.p (permanently mapped)
1GB bo^. nho+'. Vi` nguye^n nha^n na`y ne^'u ma'y co'
tre^n 1GB memory, kernel se~ pha?i su+? du.ng 1 co+
che^' dda(.c bie^.t dde^? truy nha^.p vu`ng nho+'
ngoa`i pha.m vi 1GB na`y\. Vu`ng na`y ddu+o+.c go.i
la` HIGHMEM (ddu+o+.c ddi.nh nghi~a nhu+ la`
ZONE_HIGHMEM, tra'i vo+'i ZONE_NORMAL la` vu`ng nho+'
tu+` 0-1GB).

Ky~ thua^.t map highmem va`o vu`ng nho+' thu+o+`ng
(ZONE_NORMAL) ho+i tricky va` co' hie^.u na(ng su+?
du.ng ke'm xa so vo+'i khi su+? du.ng vu`ng nho+'
thu+o+`ng. 

Thu? thua^.t du`ng dde^? truy ca^.p highmem chi? su+?
du.ng vo+'i ca'c platform 32 bit. Vo+'i ca'c  64bit
architecture (nhu+ AMD Opteron), highmem kho^ng co`n
ca^`n thie^'t nu+~a\.

 BIOS-e820: fff0 - 0001
(reserved)
 0MB HIGHMEM available.
Ca'i do`ng tre^n kho^ng lie^n quan gi` to+'i do`ng
du+o+'i ca?. Do`ng tre^n tho^ng ba'o he^. tho^'ng khi
kho+?i ddo^.ng dda~ da`nh rie^ng ra mo^.t bo^. pha^.n
vu`ng nho+' va` kho^ng ddu+o+.c su+? du.ng vu`ng na`y.
Do`ng du+o+'i co' the^? hie^?u la` ma'y cu. maikhai
kho^ng co' highmem - tu+'c la` kho^ng co' tre^n 1GB
va`/hoa(.c su+? du.ng kernel kho^ng ho^~ tro+. bo^.
nho+' tre^n 1GB (xem the^m cho.n lu+.a High memory
support khi bie^n di.ch kernel)

Tuy nhie^n ne^'u thi'ch cu. co' the^? patch kernel
dde^? co' highmem - du`ng khi debug highmem trong
tru+o+`ng ho+.p ma'y kho^ng co' to+'i 1GB memory,
hoa(.c khi cu. thi'ch nghi.ch ;-)

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Re: [Vietlug] Chuong trinh cac bai tham luan ngay 28/8 tai DHBK Hanoi

2004-08-27 Hội thoại 0xdeface
--- Moi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 02:13:22 -0700 (PDT), 0xdeface
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- Vu Do Quynh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Xin moi cac ban xem chuong trinh cac bai tham
 luan
  ngay 28/8:
   
  Ba`i tri`nh ba`y thu+' 5 ddu+a va`o chu+o+ng
 tri`nh
  co' ve? ho+i gu+o+.ng e'p ca'c ba'c nhi?
  
 
 Thi` cu~ng GNU soft ma` :) Sao gu+o+.ng e'p ?
Vi` em tha^'y co' duy nha^'t ba`i ddo' tri`nh ba`y
ve^` mo^.t co^ng cu. rie^ng le?. 

No^.i dung ca'c ba`i kia mo+'i tha^.t la` ta^.p trung
va`o y' nghi~a va` u+'ng du.ng cu?a OSS = thi'ch
ho+.p ho+n vo+'i mo^.t buo^?i ho.p ma(.t nhu+ the^'
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Re: [Vietlug] Chuong trinh cac bai tham luan ngay 28/8 tai DHBK Hanoi

2004-08-27 Hội thoại 0xdeface
Hi,

 GNUPG la` chua^?n chu+~ ky' ddie^.n tu+? hie^.n
 nay ddu+o+.c du`ng ro^.ng ra~i cho ca'c tho^ng
 ba'o quan tro.ng
GnuPG kho^ng pha?i la` chua^?n, ma` la` *pha^`n me^`m*
(tool ba'c nhe') vo+'i mu.c ddi'ch implement OpenPGP.
Ca'i OpenPGP na`y mo+'i la` chua^?n (tham kha?o RFC
2440 ban ha`nh na(m 1998)

Chu+~ ky' ddie^.n tu+? cu~ng chi? mo+'i giu'p xa'c
thu+.c ddu+o+.c nguo^`n go^'c cu?a tho^ng tin. GnuPG
kho^ng chi? du`ng dde^? ky', no' co`n co' nhu+~ng
chu+'c na(ng ma~ hoa', ne'n, key management 
certificate service.

 No'i la` co^ng nghe^. vi` no' su+? du.ng ca'c
 thua^.t toa'n tie^n tie^'n nha^'t
Co^ng nghe^. co' nghi~a la` du`ng thua^.t toa'n tie^n
tie^'n nha^'t ha? ba'c?

 To^i
 so+. trong so^' chu'ng ta ko ai co' the^? ti`m
 hie^?u he^'t ddu+o+.c li~nh vu+.c PGP vi` no'
 qua' lo+'n va` phu+'c ta.p.
Em tha^'y mo^.t sinh vie^n ddu+o+.c ho.c ba`i ba?n
ve^` Computer Science la` co' the^? ti`m hie^?u
ddu+o+.c nhu+~ng va^'n dde^` na`y trong mo^.t khoa?ng
tho+`i gian kho^ng nhie^`u. Pha^`n kho' la` ne^`n
ta?ng ly' thuye^'t cu?a he^. ma~ khoa' co^ng khai va`
ddo^'i xu+'ng thi` ngay trong tru+o+`ng dda.i ho.c
sinh vie^n cu~ng dda~ ddu+o+.c ho.c qua ro^`i. Ne^'u
mu.c ddi'ch chi? la` ti`m hie^?u va` u+'ng du.ng
nhu+~ng thu+' dda~ co' sa(~n chu+' kho^ng ca^`n sa'ng
ta.o gi` mo+'i thi`  la`m gi` dde^'n mu+'c kho^ng co'
ai la`m no^?i nhu+ ba'c no'i\? (A` ma` ba'c cu~ng
ddu+`ng ho?i em co' kha? na(ng a^'y kho^ng nhe', vi`
em la` ngu nha^'t ca'i list na`y - tre^n na`y la('m
nha^n ta`i, co' duye^n thi` tu+` tu+` ba'c se~
ddu+o+.c ga(.p)

 Ne^'u so sa'nh vo+'i ba`i vie^'t so^' 7 ve^` su+?
 du.ng pha^`n me^`m dde^? ti'nh toa'n pha^n cu.m
 cha(?ng ha.n, thi` y' nghi~a ba`i so^' 5 co' ve?
 hoa`nh tra'ng ho+n nhie^`u\. (To^i ko co' y' co^'
 ti`nh so sa'nh kha^.p khie^~ng).
Ba`i so^' 7 co' le~ cu~ng co' i't nhie^`u co^ng su+'c
ti`m to`i sa'ng ta.o cu?a nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i xa^y du+.ng
ne^n pha^`n me^`m. DDa'nh gia' va^.y e ho+i chu? quan.

Kho^ng bie^'t ban to^? chu+'c co' lu+u ca'c ba`i
tri`nh ba`y la.i cho anh em tham kha?o kho^ng? Em
muo^'n xem, cha('c hoa`nh tra'ng nhu+ ba('n pha'o hoa
dde^m giao thu+`a nhi?

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Re: [Vietlug] Chuong trinh cac bai tham luan ngay 28/8 tai DHBK Hanoi

2004-08-27 Hội thoại 0xdeface

--- Nguyen Thanh Bien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 05:34:14 -0700 (PDT)
   0xdeface [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 No^.i dung ca'c ba`i kia mo+'i tha^.t la` ta^.p
 trung
 va`o y' nghi~a va` u+'ng du.ng cu?a OSS = thi'ch
 ho+.p ho+n vo+'i mo^.t buo^?i ho.p ma(.t nhu+ the^'
 na`y\.
 
 Ba'c la.i ma('c pha?i ca(n be^.nh Cu+' tha^.t to,
 tha^.t 
 hoa`ng tra'ng thi` mo+'i la`m ro^`i. Cuo^'i cu`ng
 thi` 
 co^.ng ddo^`ng = sum(ca'c ca' nha^n,the^m mo^.t
 chu't gia 
 vi. nu+~a tho^i). No'i theo kie^?u cu?a ba'c thi`
 cu+' 
 kho' mo+'i la`m, cu+' to mo+'i la`m thi` theo em se~

Ba'c nha^`m the^' na`o, em ba?o to va` kho' mo+'i la`m
lu'c na`o nhi???

Ca'i ba'c gi` ba'c a^'y khoe ba`i ba'c a^'y hoa`nh
tra'ng, chu+' em co' ba?o ba`i pha?i hoa`nh tra'ng
mo+'i ne^n tri`nh ba`y dda^u\ nhi? 

Chu'c ca'c ba'c co' mo^.t nga`y 28/8 tha`nh co^ng ;-)

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Re: [Vietlug] Chuong trinh cac bai tham luan ngay 28/8 tai DHBK Hanoi

2004-08-27 Hội thoại 0xdeface
 die^~n dda~ co' ghi cu. the^?. Tra? lo+`i mail
 thi` kho^ng the^? ghi cu. the^? ddu+o+.c. To^i
 se~ chu' y' ho+n khi tra? lo+`i mail.
Ba'c chi? ca^`n no'i gi` ddu'ng na^'y, kho^ng ca^`n
cu. the^?. Ke?o mo.i ngu+o+`i kho^ng ddu+o+.c theo
do~i ba'c tri`nh ba`y la.i nghi~ ba`i tri`nh ba`y cu?a
ba'c cu~ng sai nhu+ ba'c vie^'t trong mail thi` ho?ng.


 Ro~ ra`ng trong trang chu? cu?a gnupg co' no'i
 gnupg la` mo^.t pha^`n me^`m, nhu+ng to^i va^~n
 thi'ch no'i dde^'n mo^.t chua^?n trong ddo'
 ngu+o+`i ta u+'ng du.ng no', nhie^`u ngu+o+`i
 u+'ng du.ng no' ma` kho^ng pha?i la(n ta(n suy
 nghi~, ne^n co' the^? coi la` mo^.t chua^?n,
 chi'nh la` PGP va` OpenPGP ddo'. Nhu+ va^.y a('t 
ha(?n ca'c ba'c dda~ nghie^n cu+'u the^m ve^`
 gnupg, nhu+ the^' la` dda.t mu.c ddi'ch cu?a to^i
 ro^`i :) 
Ba^y gio+` thi` em dda~ hie^?u ba'c PTT dda~ ra ba`i
ta^.p cho anh em tre^n list nhu+ the^' na`o\ Hoa'
ra ba'c kho^ng sai, ma` la` ba'c co^' ti`nh vie^'t
va^.y dde^? anh em ddo^.ng na~o\. Hay!

Nha('c ba'c tre^n list na`y cu~ng co' nhie^`u
researcher, chu+' kho^ng pha?i ai cu~ng ga` mo+` nhu+
em dda^y\.

Ki'nh ba'c.
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[Vietlug] www.vn.kernel.org

2004-08-14 Hội thoại 0xdeface
Hello,

Kernel 2.6.8.1 vu+`a ra (ngay sau 2.6.8 bi. lo^~i
nho?), em xem ca'c danh sa'ch mirror cu?a kernel
source thi tha^'y ca'i mirror cu?a VN he^ he^\...
nhu+ng no' la.i ddu+o+.c host o+? Singapore :-O

Tre^n ca'i host na`y ngoa`i kernel, co`n co' mo^.t
so^' distro va` packages repository cu?a ca'c distro
(gentoo, debian,...)

Hy vo.ng ca'i mirror na`y nhanh ho+n cho mo.i ngu+o+`i
ddang o+? VN.

Ba'c na`o host ca'i na`y ma` o+? trong list na`y, cho
anh em bie^'t te^n dde^? hoan ho^ ;-)

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Re: [Vietlug] xvnkb cvs?

2004-08-14 Hội thoại 0xdeface
 
 Check SF status page.
 

http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=2352group_id=1
 
 
Gio+` na`y ma` va^~n chu+a va`o ddu+o+.c ba'c a.,
ddu'ng la` chuo^'i ca? na?i !!!




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[Vietlug] xvnkb cvs?

2004-08-13 Hội thoại 0xdeface
Cha`o ca'c ba'c,

Em checkout xvnkb tu+` cvs ba(`ng ca'ch:

cvs -d ':pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/xvnkb'
login

Sau ddo' nha^.p password la` ENTER, thi` nha^.n
ddu+o+.c lo^~i: unrecognized auth response 
connection refused

Gia?i quye^'t vu. na`y the^' na`o dda^y ca'c ba'c?

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[Vietlug] New kerrnel development model

2004-08-06 Hội thoại 0xdeface
Quá trình phát tri#7875;n Linux kernel #273;ã có
nh#7919;ng thay #273;#7893;i k#7875; t#7915;
kernel 2.6. S#7921; thay #273;#7893;i #273;ã giúp
cho các tính n#259;ng tiên ti#7871;n nhanh
#273;#432;#7907;c tích h#7907;p vào kernel
h#417;n tr#432;#7899;c.

http://lwn.net/Articles/95312/

#272;ây là m#7897;t trong nhi#7873;u lý do
khi#7871;n kernel 2.6 t#7889;t h#417;n nhi#7873;u
so v#7899;i 2.4 ;-)

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Re: [Vietlug] New kerrnel development model

2004-08-06 Hội thoại 0xdeface
xin lo^~i em du`ng nha^`m font.
---
Qua' tri`nh pha't trie^?n Linux kernel dda~ co'
nhu+~ng thay ddo^?i dda'ng ke^? tu+` kernel 2.6.  Su+.
thay ddo^?i na`y dda~ giu'p nhu+~ng ti'nh na(ng tie^n
tie^'n nhanh cho'ng ddu+o+.c ti'ch ho+.p va`o kernel
ho+n tru+o+'c. 

http://lwn.net/Articles/95312/

DDa^y la` mo^.t trong nhie^`u ly' do khie^'n kernel
2.6 to^'t ho+n nhie^`u so vo+'i 2.4

 Ca'i gi` dda^y ??
 STOP please !!!
Tin cho nhu+~ng ai quan ta^m to+'i Linux kernel ba'c
a.

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[Vietlug] Andrew Morton's Speech at OLS

2004-08-03 Hội thoại 0xdeface
hello,

Kernel summit #273;#432;#7907;c t#7893; ch#7913;c
hàng n#259;m #273;ã k#7871;t thúc. #272;ây là
keynote speech c#7911;a 2.6 kernel maintainer: 
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040802115731932

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[Vietlug] nomachineNX

2004-06-29 Hội thoại 0xdeface
hello,

take a look and play with at nomachineNX - available
on Debian now ;-)

http://www.kalyxo.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NoMachineNX

...and then get rid of vnc ;-)

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[Vietlug] OT: How MS lost the API war

2004-06-17 Hội thoại 0xdeface
hello,

Gio+'i thie^.u vo+'i ca'c ba'c mo^.t ba`i ba'o ra^'t
thu' vi., tie^n ddoa'n ve^` tu+o+ng lai dden to^'i
cu?a MS ;-)

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/APIWar.html

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