RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

All sounds fine to me,

May be we have the same accent

And yeah I got some silcon neck straps which the airpod stems fit in to,
They were in a pack of 12, different colours and they cost less than ten 
dollars from amazon.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 4:47 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Well I think I’m going to get the next iteration of AirPods Pro when they come 
out when and if they come out I do have something that will hold them together 
so that way they won’t get lost it’s like a string with two plastic holes for 
both airpods.
I remember using it with the first AirPods that came out with the hey Siri 
feature which I guess was the second iteration of the regular AirPods and that 
was my first encounter with AirPods not to be confused with the wired ear pods 
which are used to have but now I don’t anymore sadly but I know I can buy them 
for relatively cheap on Amazon.
Sorry for any dictation errors when I say the word I, it mistaken as it as the 
word are and I don’t know why that is I don’t have an accent and I’m speaking 
extremely clearly. You got to love dictation isms
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:29 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

And you can use the wire to strangle a bear or wolf if you get attacked out in 
the wilderness,

Which lets face it Canada doesn’t have a lot of,but you could try it if needed.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 3:22 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

If Apple comes up with something like BodyPods Pro which are implanted behind 
my ear or into the cheekbone and which get power from my body's blood flow I 
Might consider it. Until then I would never spend a Dime on anything like 
Airpods or Airpods Pro, too easy to loose, too expensive and I can't stand 
anything which plugs up my ear and prevents me from hearing what goes on around 
me. That is why I think the good old Earpods are about as good as it gets, I 
don't like the wire, but I love the way they fit, how they hardly block out any 
outside noise if I just put them in lightly, how there is 0 lag and how they 
cost $35 Canadian and never need a new battery or recharging.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 7:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Airpods pro are similar to the original airpods but have a latex rubber ear 
peace that goes into the ear canal to seal it more for noise cancellation 
purposes.
Rather than the airpods just sitting in the entrance to the ear such as the 
older apple earpods that you use to get with your phones or ipod touchs.

And yes airpods now both standard and pros have hey siri built in to them as 
one of the new features back when the series 2 airpods came out and then same 
with the pros.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 2:42 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Well, Simon, like you, I, too, Will wait until the next generation of Airpods 
and Airpods pro are out so I can read specs and compare the two.
I do remember the AirPods that had the hey Siri feature or flat I was just 
wondering though are the AirPods Pro the current ones, flat just like the 
classic AirPods that had the hey Siri feature?
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah are meant to be a new airpods (rumoured) coming out later this year,
And I’ve heard / read other rumoured details of a second gen airpods pro,
Which I believe were meant to be similarly structured like the Samsung buds,
With a much shorter arm
But again   who knows until we  see them on the store listings.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 1:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Wasn’t Apple supposed to come out with a new AirPods Pro or am I missing 
something I know they came out with AirPods Max which I won’t get. I have a 
hard enough time as it is with the silicone gel tips. I’m used to the flatter 
kind of buds.
It seems like the beats have the kind that will easily fall out of my ears 
which are described to me like the kind where you put the silicone gel tips in 

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Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

[CHELA Robles]

Well I think I’m going to get the next iteration of AirPods Pro when they come 
out when and if they come out I do have something that will hold them together 
so that way they won’t get lost it’s like a string with two plastic holes for 
both airpods.
I remember using it with the first AirPods that came out with the hey Siri 
feature which I guess was the second iteration of the regular AirPods and that 
was my first encounter with AirPods not to be confused with the wired ear pods 
which are used to have but now I don’t anymore sadly but I know I can buy them 
for relatively cheap on Amazon.
Sorry for any dictation errors when I say the word I, it mistaken as it as the 
word are and I don’t know why that is I don’t have an accent and I’m speaking 
extremely clearly. You got to love dictation isms

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:29 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> And you can use the wire to strangle a bear or wolf if you get attacked out 
> in the wilderness,
>  
> Which lets face it Canada doesn’t have a lot of,but you could try it if 
> needed.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 3:22 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro
>  
> If Apple comes up with something like BodyPods Pro which are implanted behind 
> my ear or into the cheekbone and which get power from my body's blood flow I 
> Might consider it. Until then I would never spend a Dime on anything like 
> Airpods or Airpods Pro, too easy to loose, too expensive and I can't stand 
> anything which plugs up my ear and prevents me from hearing what goes on 
> around me. That is why I think the good old Earpods are about as good as it 
> gets, I don't like the wire, but I love the way they fit, how they hardly 
> block out any outside noise if I just put them in lightly, how there is 0 lag 
> and how they cost $35 Canadian and never need a new battery or recharging.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 7:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro
>  
> Airpods pro are similar to the original airpods but have a latex rubber ear 
> peace that goes into the ear canal to seal it more for noise cancellation 
> purposes.
> Rather than the airpods just sitting in the entrance to the ear such as the 
> older apple earpods that you use to get with your phones or ipod touchs.
>  
> And yes airpods now both standard and pros have hey siri built in to them as 
> one of the new features back when the series 2 airpods came out and then same 
> with the pros.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
> Robles
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 2:42 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro
>  
> Well, Simon, like you, I, too, Will wait until the next generation of Airpods 
> and Airpods pro are out so I can read specs and compare the two.
> I do remember the AirPods that had the hey Siri feature or flat I was just 
> wondering though are the AirPods Pro the current ones, flat just like the 
> classic AirPods that had the hey Siri feature?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Jun 14, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah are meant to be a new airpods (rumoured) coming out later this year,
> And I’ve heard / read other rumoured details of a second gen airpods pro,
> Which I believe were meant to be similarly structured like the Samsung buds,
> With a much shorter arm
> But again   who knows until we  see them on the store listings.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
> Robles
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 1:25 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro
>  
> Wasn’t Apple supposed to come out with a new AirPods Pro or am I missing 
> something I know they came out with AirPods Max which I won’t get. I have a 
> hard enough time as it is with the silicone gel tips. I’m used to the flatter 
> kind of buds.
> It seems like the beats have the kind that will easily fall out of my ears 
> which are described to me like the kind where you put the silicone gel tips 
> in your ears they’re not flat at all.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Jun 14, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah but the buds are a weird shape.
>  
> I tried a pair and I really didn’t like the feel.
>  
> Although these are studio buds,
> Are they somehow shaped different.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of doug 
> parisian
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 10:24 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro
>  
> Just cause confusing folks is so much fun, I forward the following to further 
> confuse those who want/need yet another set of ear noise makers.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  Forwarded Message 

RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

And you can use the wire to strangle a bear or wolf if you get attacked out in 
the wilderness,

Which lets face it Canada doesn’t have a lot of,but you could try it if needed.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 3:22 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

If Apple comes up with something like BodyPods Pro which are implanted behind 
my ear or into the cheekbone and which get power from my body's blood flow I 
Might consider it. Until then I would never spend a Dime on anything like 
Airpods or Airpods Pro, too easy to loose, too expensive and I can't stand 
anything which plugs up my ear and prevents me from hearing what goes on around 
me. That is why I think the good old Earpods are about as good as it gets, I 
don't like the wire, but I love the way they fit, how they hardly block out any 
outside noise if I just put them in lightly, how there is 0 lag and how they 
cost $35 Canadian and never need a new battery or recharging.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 7:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Airpods pro are similar to the original airpods but have a latex rubber ear 
peace that goes into the ear canal to seal it more for noise cancellation 
purposes.
Rather than the airpods just sitting in the entrance to the ear such as the 
older apple earpods that you use to get with your phones or ipod touchs.

And yes airpods now both standard and pros have hey siri built in to them as 
one of the new features back when the series 2 airpods came out and then same 
with the pros.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 2:42 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Well, Simon, like you, I, too, Will wait until the next generation of Airpods 
and Airpods pro are out so I can read specs and compare the two.
I do remember the AirPods that had the hey Siri feature or flat I was just 
wondering though are the AirPods Pro the current ones, flat just like the 
classic AirPods that had the hey Siri feature?
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah are meant to be a new airpods (rumoured) coming out later this year,
And I’ve heard / read other rumoured details of a second gen airpods pro,
Which I believe were meant to be similarly structured like the Samsung buds,
With a much shorter arm
But again   who knows until we  see them on the store listings.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 1:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Wasn’t Apple supposed to come out with a new AirPods Pro or am I missing 
something I know they came out with AirPods Max which I won’t get. I have a 
hard enough time as it is with the silicone gel tips. I’m used to the flatter 
kind of buds.
It seems like the beats have the kind that will easily fall out of my ears 
which are described to me like the kind where you put the silicone gel tips in 
your ears they’re not flat at all.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah but the buds are a weird shape.

I tried a pair and I really didn’t like the feel.

Although these are studio buds,
Are they somehow shaped different.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of doug 
parisian
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 10:24 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro


Just cause confusing folks is so much fun, I forward the following to further 
confuse those who want/need yet another set of ear noise makers.




 Forwarded Message 
Subject:
Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro
Date:
Mon, 14 Jun 2021 09:51:58 -0700
From:
CNET Now 
Reply-To:
newslett...@cnet.online.com
To:
Doug Parisian 


But Apple users may not be so thrilled. Plus, why Apple's Private Relay is not 
a VPN, our review of the Moto G Stylus 5G, and iPhone buttons could be the next 
thing Apple kills.


bsp;

RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

Ure,
Bt how do they sound and also how do they feel when you are wearing them.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 3:38 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

There are so many headphones out there that you can drive yourself crazy trying 
to decide which is best.
i thought that the Airpods Max at $549 were the most expensive, until i came 
upon an equivalent made by a company called Mont Blanc that has a leather 
covered exterior and sells for $700.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 8:22 PM
Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

If Apple comes up with something like BodyPods Pro which are implanted behind 
my ear or into the cheekbone and which get power from my body's blood flow I 
Might consider it. Until then I would never spend a Dime on anything like 
Airpods or Airpods Pro, too easy to loose, too expensive and I can't stand 
anything which plugs up my ear and prevents me from hearing what goes on around 
me. That is why I think the good old Earpods are about as good as it gets, I 
don't like the wire, but I love the way they fit, how they hardly block out any 
outside noise if I just put them in lightly, how there is 0 lag and how they 
cost $35 Canadian and never need a new battery or recharging.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 7:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Airpods pro are similar to the original airpods but have a latex rubber ear 
peace that goes into the ear canal to seal it more for noise cancellation 
purposes.
Rather than the airpods just sitting in the entrance to the ear such as the 
older apple earpods that you use to get with your phones or ipod touchs.

And yes airpods now both standard and pros have hey siri built in to them as 
one of the new features back when the series 2 airpods came out and then same 
with the pros.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 2:42 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Well, Simon, like you, I, too, Will wait until the next generation of Airpods 
and Airpods pro are out so I can read specs and compare the two.
I do remember the AirPods that had the hey Siri feature or flat I was just 
wondering though are the AirPods Pro the current ones, flat just like the 
classic AirPods that had the hey Siri feature?
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah are meant to be a new airpods (rumoured) coming out later this year,
And I’ve heard / read other rumoured details of a second gen airpods pro,
Which I believe were meant to be similarly structured like the Samsung buds,
With a much shorter arm
But again   who knows until we  see them on the store listings.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 1:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Wasn’t Apple supposed to come out with a new AirPods Pro or am I missing 
something I know they came out with AirPods Max which I won’t get. I have a 
hard enough time as it is with the silicone gel tips. I’m used to the flatter 
kind of buds.
It seems like the beats have the kind that will easily fall out of my ears 
which are described to me like the kind where you put the silicone gel tips in 
your ears they’re not flat at all.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah but the buds are a weird shape.

I tried a pair and I really didn’t like the feel.

Although these are studio buds,
Are they somehow shaped different.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of doug 
parisian
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 10:24 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro


Just cause confusing folks is so much fun, I forward the following to further 
confuse those who want/need yet another set of ear noise makers.




 Forwarded Message 
Subject:
Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro
Date:
Mon, 14 Jun 2021 09:51:58 -0700
From:
CNET Now 
Reply-To:

RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

Keep searching,

I’ve heard of headphones for use by those that work in audio production etc
They have a price tag of $80,000.00 NZ dollars,

I can’t remember what brand they wer as I didn’t need to keep looking their 
details up.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 3:46 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

And if you think $700 is where it ends you are mistaken, how about $2,000 or 
maybe these for $5,499 and they aren't even wireless, but then of course if you 
want the absolutely best and purest sound it can never be wireless:

https://www.headamp.com/products/hifiman-he-r10p?variant=38118609092784



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 8:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

There are so many headphones out there that you can drive yourself crazy trying 
to decide which is best.
i thought that the Airpods Max at $549 were the most expensive, until i came 
upon an equivalent made by a company called Mont Blanc that has a leather 
covered exterior and sells for $700.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 8:22 PM
Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

If Apple comes up with something like BodyPods Pro which are implanted behind 
my ear or into the cheekbone and which get power from my body's blood flow I 
Might consider it. Until then I would never spend a Dime on anything like 
Airpods or Airpods Pro, too easy to loose, too expensive and I can't stand 
anything which plugs up my ear and prevents me from hearing what goes on around 
me. That is why I think the good old Earpods are about as good as it gets, I 
don't like the wire, but I love the way they fit, how they hardly block out any 
outside noise if I just put them in lightly, how there is 0 lag and how they 
cost $35 Canadian and never need a new battery or recharging.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 7:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Airpods pro are similar to the original airpods but have a latex rubber ear 
peace that goes into the ear canal to seal it more for noise cancellation 
purposes.
Rather than the airpods just sitting in the entrance to the ear such as the 
older apple earpods that you use to get with your phones or ipod touchs.

And yes airpods now both standard and pros have hey siri built in to them as 
one of the new features back when the series 2 airpods came out and then same 
with the pros.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 2:42 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Well, Simon, like you, I, too, Will wait until the next generation of Airpods 
and Airpods pro are out so I can read specs and compare the two.
I do remember the AirPods that had the hey Siri feature or flat I was just 
wondering though are the AirPods Pro the current ones, flat just like the 
classic AirPods that had the hey Siri feature?
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah are meant to be a new airpods (rumoured) coming out later this year,
And I’ve heard / read other rumoured details of a second gen airpods pro,
Which I believe were meant to be similarly structured like the Samsung buds,
With a much shorter arm
But again   who knows until we  see them on the store listings.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 1:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Wasn’t Apple supposed to come out with a new AirPods Pro or am I missing 
something I know they came out with AirPods Max which I won’t get. I have a 
hard enough time as it is with the silicone gel tips. I’m used to the flatter 
kind of buds.
It seems like the beats have the kind that will easily fall out of my ears 
which are described to me like the kind where you put the silicone gel tips in 
your ears they’re not flat at all.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah but the buds are a weird shape.

I tried a pair and I really didn’t like the feel.

Although 

RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

It would depend on the wired earpods / buds you are talking about.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 3:57 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

My understanding is that the Airpods fit in your ears the same way the wired 
ear buds from Apple do, so they don’t block any more sound then the wired 
earbuds. The Airpod Pros have transparency mode, so although it isn’t the same, 
they can also let you hear the sounds around you. I don’t have any trouble 
keeping track of my Airpod Pros, so I’m not worried about losing one. The 
Airpod and Airpod Pros may not be for everyone, and there’s nothing wrong with 
that.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 10:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

If Apple comes up with something like BodyPods Pro which are implanted behind 
my ear or into the cheekbone and which get power from my body's blood flow I 
Might consider it. Until then I would never spend a Dime on anything like 
Airpods or Airpods Pro, too easy to loose, too expensive and I can't stand 
anything which plugs up my ear and prevents me from hearing what goes on around 
me. That is why I think the good old Earpods are about as good as it gets, I 
don't like the wire, but I love the way they fit, how they hardly block out any 
outside noise if I just put them in lightly, how there is 0 lag and how they 
cost $35 Canadian and never need a new battery or recharging.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 7:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Airpods pro are similar to the original airpods but have a latex rubber ear 
peace that goes into the ear canal to seal it more for noise cancellation 
purposes.
Rather than the airpods just sitting in the entrance to the ear such as the 
older apple earpods that you use to get with your phones or ipod touchs.

And yes airpods now both standard and pros have hey siri built in to them as 
one of the new features back when the series 2 airpods came out and then same 
with the pros.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 2:42 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Well, Simon, like you, I, too, Will wait until the next generation of Airpods 
and Airpods pro are out so I can read specs and compare the two.
I do remember the AirPods that had the hey Siri feature or flat I was just 
wondering though are the AirPods Pro the current ones, flat just like the 
classic AirPods that had the hey Siri feature?
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah are meant to be a new airpods (rumoured) coming out later this year,
And I’ve heard / read other rumoured details of a second gen airpods pro,
Which I believe were meant to be similarly structured like the Samsung buds,
With a much shorter arm
But again   who knows until we  see them on the store listings.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 1:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Wasn’t Apple supposed to come out with a new AirPods Pro or am I missing 
something I know they came out with AirPods Max which I won’t get. I have a 
hard enough time as it is with the silicone gel tips. I’m used to the flatter 
kind of buds.
It seems like the beats have the kind that will easily fall out of my ears 
which are described to me like the kind where you put the silicone gel tips in 
your ears they’re not flat at all.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah but the buds are a weird shape.

I tried a pair and I really didn’t like the feel.

Although these are studio buds,
Are they somehow shaped different.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of doug 
parisian
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 10:24 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro


Just cause confusing folks is so much fun, I forward the following to further 
confuse those who want/need yet another set of ear noise 

RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

[Christopher Chaltain]

My understanding is that the Airpods fit in your ears the same way the wired 
ear buds from Apple do, so they don’t block any more sound then the wired 
earbuds. The Airpod Pros have transparency mode, so although it isn’t the same, 
they can also let you hear the sounds around you. I don’t have any trouble 
keeping track of my Airpod Pros, so I’m not worried about losing one. The 
Airpod and Airpod Pros may not be for everyone, and there’s nothing wrong with 
that.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 10:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

If Apple comes up with something like BodyPods Pro which are implanted behind 
my ear or into the cheekbone and which get power from my body's blood flow I 
Might consider it. Until then I would never spend a Dime on anything like 
Airpods or Airpods Pro, too easy to loose, too expensive and I can't stand 
anything which plugs up my ear and prevents me from hearing what goes on around 
me. That is why I think the good old Earpods are about as good as it gets, I 
don't like the wire, but I love the way they fit, how they hardly block out any 
outside noise if I just put them in lightly, how there is 0 lag and how they 
cost $35 Canadian and never need a new battery or recharging.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 7:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Airpods pro are similar to the original airpods but have a latex rubber ear 
peace that goes into the ear canal to seal it more for noise cancellation 
purposes.
Rather than the airpods just sitting in the entrance to the ear such as the 
older apple earpods that you use to get with your phones or ipod touchs.

And yes airpods now both standard and pros have hey siri built in to them as 
one of the new features back when the series 2 airpods came out and then same 
with the pros.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 2:42 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Well, Simon, like you, I, too, Will wait until the next generation of Airpods 
and Airpods pro are out so I can read specs and compare the two.
I do remember the AirPods that had the hey Siri feature or flat I was just 
wondering though are the AirPods Pro the current ones, flat just like the 
classic AirPods that had the hey Siri feature?
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah are meant to be a new airpods (rumoured) coming out later this year,
And I’ve heard / read other rumoured details of a second gen airpods pro,
Which I believe were meant to be similarly structured like the Samsung buds,
With a much shorter arm
But again   who knows until we  see them on the store listings.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 1:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Wasn’t Apple supposed to come out with a new AirPods Pro or am I missing 
something I know they came out with AirPods Max which I won’t get. I have a 
hard enough time as it is with the silicone gel tips. I’m used to the flatter 
kind of buds.
It seems like the beats have the kind that will easily fall out of my ears 
which are described to me like the kind where you put the silicone gel tips in 
your ears they’re not flat at all.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah but the buds are a weird shape.

I tried a pair and I really didn’t like the feel.

Although these are studio buds,
Are they somehow shaped different.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of doug 
parisian
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 10:24 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro


Just cause confusing folks is so much fun, I forward the following to further 
confuse those who want/need yet another set of ear noise makers.




 Forwarded Message 
Subject:
Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro
Date:
Mon, 14 Jun 2021 09:51:58 -0700
From:
CNET Now 
Reply-To:
newslett...@cnet.online.com
To:
Doug Parisian 


But Apple users may not be so thrilled. Plus, 

RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And if you think $700 is where it ends you are mistaken, how about $2,000 or 
maybe these for $5,499 and they aren't even wireless, but then of course if you 
want the absolutely best and purest sound it can never be wireless:

https://www.headamp.com/products/hifiman-he-r10p?variant=38118609092784



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 8:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

There are so many headphones out there that you can drive yourself crazy trying 
to decide which is best.
i thought that the Airpods Max at $549 were the most expensive, until i came 
upon an equivalent made by a company called Mont Blanc that has a leather 
covered exterior and sells for $700.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 8:22 PM
Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

If Apple comes up with something like BodyPods Pro which are implanted behind 
my ear or into the cheekbone and which get power from my body's blood flow I 
Might consider it. Until then I would never spend a Dime on anything like 
Airpods or Airpods Pro, too easy to loose, too expensive and I can't stand 
anything which plugs up my ear and prevents me from hearing what goes on around 
me. That is why I think the good old Earpods are about as good as it gets, I 
don't like the wire, but I love the way they fit, how they hardly block out any 
outside noise if I just put them in lightly, how there is 0 lag and how they 
cost $35 Canadian and never need a new battery or recharging.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 7:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Airpods pro are similar to the original airpods but have a latex rubber ear 
peace that goes into the ear canal to seal it more for noise cancellation 
purposes.
Rather than the airpods just sitting in the entrance to the ear such as the 
older apple earpods that you use to get with your phones or ipod touchs.

And yes airpods now both standard and pros have hey siri built in to them as 
one of the new features back when the series 2 airpods came out and then same 
with the pros.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 2:42 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Well, Simon, like you, I, too, Will wait until the next generation of Airpods 
and Airpods pro are out so I can read specs and compare the two.
I do remember the AirPods that had the hey Siri feature or flat I was just 
wondering though are the AirPods Pro the current ones, flat just like the 
classic AirPods that had the hey Siri feature?
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah are meant to be a new airpods (rumoured) coming out later this year,
And I’ve heard / read other rumoured details of a second gen airpods pro,
Which I believe were meant to be similarly structured like the Samsung buds,
With a much shorter arm
But again   who knows until we  see them on the store listings.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 1:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Wasn’t Apple supposed to come out with a new AirPods Pro or am I missing 
something I know they came out with AirPods Max which I won’t get. I have a 
hard enough time as it is with the silicone gel tips. I’m used to the flatter 
kind of buds.
It seems like the beats have the kind that will easily fall out of my ears 
which are described to me like the kind where you put the silicone gel tips in 
your ears they’re not flat at all.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah but the buds are a weird shape.

I tried a pair and I really didn’t like the feel.

Although these are studio buds,
Are they somehow shaped different.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of doug 
parisian
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 10:24 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro


Just cause confusing folks is so much fun, I forward the following to further 
confuse those who want/need yet another set of ear noise makers.




 Forwarded Message 

RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If Apple comes up with something like BodyPods Pro which are implanted behind 
my ear or into the cheekbone and which get power from my body's blood flow I 
Might consider it. Until then I would never spend a Dime on anything like 
Airpods or Airpods Pro, too easy to loose, too expensive and I can't stand 
anything which plugs up my ear and prevents me from hearing what goes on around 
me. That is why I think the good old Earpods are about as good as it gets, I 
don't like the wire, but I love the way they fit, how they hardly block out any 
outside noise if I just put them in lightly, how there is 0 lag and how they 
cost $35 Canadian and never need a new battery or recharging.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2021 7:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Airpods pro are similar to the original airpods but have a latex rubber ear 
peace that goes into the ear canal to seal it more for noise cancellation 
purposes.
Rather than the airpods just sitting in the entrance to the ear such as the 
older apple earpods that you use to get with your phones or ipod touchs.

And yes airpods now both standard and pros have hey siri built in to them as 
one of the new features back when the series 2 airpods came out and then same 
with the pros.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 2:42 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Well, Simon, like you, I, too, Will wait until the next generation of Airpods 
and Airpods pro are out so I can read specs and compare the two.
I do remember the AirPods that had the hey Siri feature or flat I was just 
wondering though are the AirPods Pro the current ones, flat just like the 
classic AirPods that had the hey Siri feature?
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah are meant to be a new airpods (rumoured) coming out later this year,
And I’ve heard / read other rumoured details of a second gen airpods pro,
Which I believe were meant to be similarly structured like the Samsung buds,
With a much shorter arm
But again   who knows until we  see them on the store listings.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 1:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Wasn’t Apple supposed to come out with a new AirPods Pro or am I missing 
something I know they came out with AirPods Max which I won’t get. I have a 
hard enough time as it is with the silicone gel tips. I’m used to the flatter 
kind of buds.
It seems like the beats have the kind that will easily fall out of my ears 
which are described to me like the kind where you put the silicone gel tips in 
your ears they’re not flat at all.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 14, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah but the buds are a weird shape.

I tried a pair and I really didn’t like the feel.

Although these are studio buds,
Are they somehow shaped different.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of doug 
parisian
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 10:24 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro


Just cause confusing folks is so much fun, I forward the following to further 
confuse those who want/need yet another set of ear noise makers.




 Forwarded Message 
Subject:
Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro
Date:
Mon, 14 Jun 2021 09:51:58 -0700
From:
CNET Now 
Reply-To:
newslett...@cnet.online.com
To:
Doug Parisian 


But Apple users may not be so thrilled. Plus, why Apple's Private Relay is not 
a VPN, our review of the Moto G Stylus 5G, and iPhone buttons could be the next 
thing Apple kills.


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Beats Studio Buds sound better than AirPods 
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But Apple users may not be thrilled with what got left 

RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

Airpods pro are similar to the original airpods but have a latex rubber ear 
peace that goes into the ear canal to seal it more for noise cancellation 
purposes.
Rather than the airpods just sitting in the entrance to the ear such as the 
older apple earpods that you use to get with your phones or ipod touchs.

And yes airpods now both standard and pros have hey siri built in to them as 
one of the new features back when the series 2 airpods came out and then same 
with the pros.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 2:42 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Well, Simon, like you, I, too, Will wait until the next generation of Airpods 
and Airpods pro are out so I can read specs and compare the two.
I do remember the AirPods that had the hey Siri feature or flat I was just 
wondering though are the AirPods Pro the current ones, flat just like the 
classic AirPods that had the hey Siri feature?
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 14, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah are meant to be a new airpods (rumoured) coming out later this year,
And I’ve heard / read other rumoured details of a second gen airpods pro,
Which I believe were meant to be similarly structured like the Samsung buds,
With a much shorter arm
But again   who knows until we  see them on the store listings.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 1:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Wasn’t Apple supposed to come out with a new AirPods Pro or am I missing 
something I know they came out with AirPods Max which I won’t get. I have a 
hard enough time as it is with the silicone gel tips. I’m used to the flatter 
kind of buds.
It seems like the beats have the kind that will easily fall out of my ears 
which are described to me like the kind where you put the silicone gel tips in 
your ears they’re not flat at all.
Sent from my iPhone



On Jun 14, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah but the buds are a weird shape.

I tried a pair and I really didn’t like the feel.

Although these are studio buds,
Are they somehow shaped different.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of doug 
parisian
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 10:24 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro


Just cause confusing folks is so much fun, I forward the following to further 
confuse those who want/need yet another set of ear noise makers.




 Forwarded Message 
Subject:
Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro
Date:
Mon, 14 Jun 2021 09:51:58 -0700
From:
CNET Now 
Reply-To:
newslett...@cnet.online.com
To:
Doug Parisian 


But Apple users may not be so thrilled. Plus, why Apple's Private Relay is not 
a VPN, our review of the Moto G Stylus 5G, and iPhone buttons could be the next 
thing Apple kills.


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Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

[CHELA Robles]

Well, Simon, like you, I, too, Will wait until the next generation of Airpods 
and Airpods pro are out so I can read specs and compare the two.
I do remember the AirPods that had the hey Siri feature or flat I was just 
wondering though are the AirPods Pro the current ones, flat just like the 
classic AirPods that had the hey Siri feature?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 14, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah are meant to be a new airpods (rumoured) coming out later this year,
> And I’ve heard / read other rumoured details of a second gen airpods pro,
> Which I believe were meant to be similarly structured like the Samsung buds,
> With a much shorter arm
> But again   who knows until we  see them on the store listings.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
> Robles
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 1:25 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro
>  
> Wasn’t Apple supposed to come out with a new AirPods Pro or am I missing 
> something I know they came out with AirPods Max which I won’t get. I have a 
> hard enough time as it is with the silicone gel tips. I’m used to the flatter 
> kind of buds.
> It seems like the beats have the kind that will easily fall out of my ears 
> which are described to me like the kind where you put the silicone gel tips 
> in your ears they’re not flat at all.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jun 14, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah but the buds are a weird shape.
>  
> I tried a pair and I really didn’t like the feel.
>  
> Although these are studio buds,
> Are they somehow shaped different.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of doug 
> parisian
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 10:24 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro
>  
> Just cause confusing folks is so much fun, I forward the following to further 
> confuse those who want/need yet another set of ear noise makers.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:
> Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro
> Date:
> Mon, 14 Jun 2021 09:51:58 -0700
> From:
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> Reply-To:
> newslett...@cnet.online.com
> To:
> Doug Parisian 
> 
> 
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RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah are meant to be a new airpods (rumoured) coming out later this year,
And I’ve heard / read other rumoured details of a second gen airpods pro,
Which I believe were meant to be similarly structured like the Samsung buds,
With a much shorter arm
But again   who knows until we  see them on the store listings.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 1:25 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

Wasn’t Apple supposed to come out with a new AirPods Pro or am I missing 
something I know they came out with AirPods Max which I won’t get. I have a 
hard enough time as it is with the silicone gel tips. I’m used to the flatter 
kind of buds.
It seems like the beats have the kind that will easily fall out of my ears 
which are described to me like the kind where you put the silicone gel tips in 
your ears they’re not flat at all.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 14, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah but the buds are a weird shape.

I tried a pair and I really didn’t like the feel.

Although these are studio buds,
Are they somehow shaped different.

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parisian
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Re: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

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Wasn’t Apple supposed to come out with a new AirPods Pro or am I missing 
something I know they came out with AirPods Max which I won’t get. I have a 
hard enough time as it is with the silicone gel tips. I’m used to the flatter 
kind of buds.
It seems like the beats have the kind that will easily fall out of my ears 
which are described to me like the kind where you put the silicone gel tips in 
your ears they’re not flat at all.

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
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Re: Spotify

[Wendy Lin]

I tried uninstalling the app and reinstalling it on my phone on the same day I 
noticed the bug. Still the same results unfortunately. So I guess I have no 
choice but to wait for the next app update.

Wendy

> On Jun 12, 2021, at 9:40 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Strange. I suggest you delete the Spotify app and re-download it. Maybe that 
> will solve your issue.
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>> On Jun 12, 2021, at 5:59 PM, Wendy Lin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Feliciano,
>> 
>> Yeah that’s what one of my other blind friends have told me. The create 
>> playlist button is still there for him too but he wrote to Spotify support 
>> on behalf of me I guess because he told me that they’re going to fix that in 
>> the next update.
>> 
>> Wendy
>> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> It's still there. Nothing has changed. Once you are in the now playing 
>>> screen, on the top, you have more options. Activate that and then go into 
>>> add to playlist and then there you have the option to create a new 
>>> playlist. from the list screen, you can do a one finger swipe up to find 
>>> more options as well.
>>> 
>>> Feliciano
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>>> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones 
>>> who do. -Steve Jobs 
>>> 
> On Jun 9, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Wendy Lin  wrote:
 
 Hi group,
 
 Have you guys noticed that there’s no more create playlist button in the 
 Spotify app for iPhone, or maybe it’s just my device? I just noticed that 
 today and the app was last updated on May 27th. I just emailed to the 
 Spotify support team but not sure if that will help and if they will help. 
 Under your library tab and under playlists, I only see a list of all my 
 playlists I’ve created, songs I liked and all the podcasts I’ve listened 
 to, but no create playlist button.
 
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RE: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah but the buds are a weird shape.

I tried a pair and I really didn’t like the feel.

Although these are studio buds,
Are they somehow shaped different.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of doug 
parisian
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Subject: Fwd: Beats Studio Buds: Better sound than AirPods Pro


Just cause confusing folks is so much fun, I forward the following to further 
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Re: Wash question for my sighted wife

[Richard Turner]

Bring up the control center with a single finger swipe up from the bottom if it 
is without a home button.
possibly a swipe down with one finger from the status bar.
The first item on the third row of icons is Lock Orientation on/off. It looks 
like a lock with a clockwise arrow.
It is red if locked, and white if unlocked.
HTH,



Richard
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My sighted wife wants to know how to lock the screen orientation of her iPhone, 
does anyone know?

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Re: Wash question for my sighted wife

[Holly]

Alex:

You can lock the screen orientation so that it doesn’t change when you rotate 
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Open Control Center, then tap .

When the screen orientation is locked,  appears in the status bar (on supported 
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RE: Major problem with latest iOS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No need to hide it if you can simply turn it off. I have 1 app where Voiceover 
reads absolutely nothing without screen recognition and where with screen 
recognition I can use the app fairly well so it does have its uses, but it is 
definitely best to make sure all apps are deselected so you can just enable 
this via the rotor in a particular app. If you find you have no need for it at 
all just turn it off and remove it from the rotor and it's done, it's 
effectively hidden.
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I really blame Apple for that feature which is really still at the beginners 
stage and has never been developed and looked after seriously. I hope in the 
next update Apple stops or hides this feature there are too few cases in which 
the feature comes in handy and in most cases ik causes many many problems.
Davy 

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Verzonden: vrijdag 11 juni 2021 17:34
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Major problem with latest iOS

Attention everyone, the latest iOS update has caused major problems. I 
currently cannot use Microsoft outlook nor can I use Aira. When I try to open 
these apps the only thing you get is a blank screen. I think one of the reasons 
for this is because we turned screen recognition on while I was in the app the 
other day. We did a reset on the phone and did a back up through iTunes, called 
Apple and they did a screen share and video and send a ticket to the 
tech-support. They ask that anyone that is having problems with any app not 
opening to please contact them and let them know about it so they can try to 
find the problem. My wife is also having difficulty with an app she downloaded 
yesterday it was working she turned screen recognition on to try to figure out 
something in the app and it will not load anymore. So the best advice I could 
give you is do not turn screen recognition on if you do you may not be able to 
use the app that you turned it on with because you definitely can’t turn it off 
once this happens. Again anyone having these problems need to let Apple know.

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Elgato Stream Deck

[juanhernandez98]

Hi All,

 

Good morning all!  I just had a  question.  Has anyone used the legato
stream deck? Is it accessible?

 

Best,

 

Juan

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Re: A problem with dictation in apps

[Rafał Marzec]

11 promax with the latest iOS

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Jun 2021, at 3:54 pm, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
> 
> Just curious. Which iPhone are you using?
> 
>> On 6/14/21, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
>> I’ve checked and the result is the same and the problem exist not only with
>> these apps which I spoke about but also in email and Amazon
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On 14 Jun 2021, at 3:13 pm, Kimber Gardner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is everyone who is experiencing this problem using the two-finger
>>> method for starting dictation? I'm asking because I always start
>>> dictation by tapping the dictate button at the bottom of the keyboard
>>> and I have not experienced this problem.
>>> 
>>> Try starting dictation with the dictate button and see if the problem
>>> behavior improves.
>>> 
>>> Kim
>>> 
 On 6/13/21, Anthony Vece  wrote:
 Sherry;
 I am having the same issue in any app I am using.It’s nerve-racking.
 Stay
 safe
 Anthony
 
 Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
 
> On Jun 13, 2021, at 7:08 PM, Sherrie Gosling 
> wrote:
> 
> After updating to 14.6 I can no longer use dictation in the Amazon
> app.
> 
> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 13, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've never used either of those apps; so it could be something with
>> the
>> update and those apps.
>> Try it somewhere like Notes, or Email and see if it behaves the same
>> way.
>> If it does, then I'd contact Apple Accessibility.
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Rafal Marzec
>> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 12:19 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A problem with dictation in apps
>> 
>> Just two finger tap on a typing field
>> At the moment I’ve noticed this problem in Facebook messenger and
>> WhatsApp
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On 13 Jun 2021, at 8:14 pm, Richard Turner
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How exactly are you starting dictation?
>>> 
>>> And, in which apps?
>>> 
>>> Exact steps will help duplicate the issue or find a solution.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>> 
>>> Web site:
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
>>> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C73143acabc38434ba14408d92ea01893%7
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Rafal Marzec
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 12:09 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: A problem with dictation in apps
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone
>>> I've noticed huge problems with dictation in apps When I'm starting
>>> to
>>> dictate something dictation function is turning off and this is not
>>> because of the Internet Switching between the language keyboards help
>>> think for a moment but after some few sentences lwhen I'm trying to
>>> dictate again it's turning off It's also helping for a moment after
>>> closing the app on the app switcher and open it again but it just
>>> helping for one time dictation Has anyone experienced such problems
>>> as
>>> well?
>>> 
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Re: A problem with dictation in apps

[Kimber Gardner]

Just curious. Which iPhone are you using?

On 6/14/21, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
> I’ve checked and the result is the same and the problem exist not only with
> these apps which I spoke about but also in email and Amazon
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 14 Jun 2021, at 3:13 pm, Kimber Gardner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Is everyone who is experiencing this problem using the two-finger
>> method for starting dictation? I'm asking because I always start
>> dictation by tapping the dictate button at the bottom of the keyboard
>> and I have not experienced this problem.
>>
>> Try starting dictation with the dictate button and see if the problem
>> behavior improves.
>>
>> Kim
>>
>>> On 6/13/21, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>> Sherry;
>>> I am having the same issue in any app I am using.It’s nerve-racking.
>>> Stay
>>> safe
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>
 On Jun 13, 2021, at 7:08 PM, Sherrie Gosling 
 wrote:

 After updating to 14.6 I can no longer use dictation in the Amazon
 app.

 Sent from Sherrie's iPhone



> On Jun 13, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner
> 
> wrote:
>
> I've never used either of those apps; so it could be something with
> the
> update and those apps.
> Try it somewhere like Notes, or Email and see if it behaves the same
> way.
> If it does, then I'd contact Apple Accessibility.
> HTH,
>
>
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Rafal Marzec
> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 12:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A problem with dictation in apps
>
> Just two finger tap on a typing field
> At the moment I’ve noticed this problem in Facebook messenger and
> WhatsApp
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>> On 13 Jun 2021, at 8:14 pm, Richard Turner
>>>  wrote:
>>
>> How exactly are you starting dictation?
>>
>> And, in which apps?
>>
>> Exact steps will help duplicate the issue or find a solution.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>
>> Web site:
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
>> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C73143acabc38434ba14408d92ea01893%7
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>> %2ByLE%3Dreserved=0
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>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of
>> Rafal Marzec
>> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 12:09 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: A problem with dictation in apps
>>
>> Hello everyone
>> I've noticed huge problems with dictation in apps When I'm starting
>> to
>> dictate something dictation function is turning off and this is not
>> because of the Internet Switching between the language keyboards help
>> think for a moment but after some few sentences lwhen I'm trying to
>> dictate again it's turning off It's also helping for a moment after
>> closing the app on the app switcher and open it again but it just
>> helping for one time dictation Has anyone experienced such problems
>> as
>> well?
>>
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Re: A problem with dictation in apps

[Rafał Marzec]

I’ve checked and the result is the same and the problem exist not only with 
these apps which I spoke about but also in email and Amazon

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Jun 2021, at 3:13 pm, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
> 
> Is everyone who is experiencing this problem using the two-finger
> method for starting dictation? I'm asking because I always start
> dictation by tapping the dictate button at the bottom of the keyboard
> and I have not experienced this problem.
> 
> Try starting dictation with the dictate button and see if the problem
> behavior improves.
> 
> Kim
> 
>> On 6/13/21, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> Sherry;
>> I am having the same issue in any app I am using.It’s nerve-racking. Stay
>> safe
>> Anthony
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>>> On Jun 13, 2021, at 7:08 PM, Sherrie Gosling 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> After updating to 14.6 I can no longer use dictation in the Amazon app.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 13, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:
 
 I've never used either of those apps; so it could be something with the
 update and those apps.
 Try it somewhere like Notes, or Email and see if it behaves the same
 way.
 If it does, then I'd contact Apple Accessibility.
 HTH,
 
 
 Richard
 Software means never having to say you're finished
 
 Web site: www.turner42.com
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
 Rafal Marzec
 Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 12:19 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: A problem with dictation in apps
 
 Just two finger tap on a typing field
 At the moment I’ve noticed this problem in Facebook messenger and
 WhatsApp
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On 13 Jun 2021, at 8:14 pm, Richard Turner
>>  wrote:
> 
> How exactly are you starting dictation?
> 
> And, in which apps?
> 
> Exact steps will help duplicate the issue or find a solution.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
> Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C73143acabc38434ba14408d92ea01893%7
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Rafal Marzec
> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 12:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A problem with dictation in apps
> 
> Hello everyone
> I've noticed huge problems with dictation in apps When I'm starting to
> dictate something dictation function is turning off and this is not
> because of the Internet Switching between the language keyboards help
> think for a moment but after some few sentences lwhen I'm trying to
> dictate again it's turning off It's also helping for a moment after
> closing the app on the app switcher and open it again but it just
> helping for one time dictation Has anyone experienced such problems as
> well?
> 
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Re: A problem with dictation in apps

[Kimber Gardner]

Is everyone who is experiencing this problem using the two-finger
method for starting dictation? I'm asking because I always start
dictation by tapping the dictate button at the bottom of the keyboard
and I have not experienced this problem.

Try starting dictation with the dictate button and see if the problem
behavior improves.

Kim

On 6/13/21, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> Sherry;
> I am having the same issue in any app I am using.It’s nerve-racking. Stay
> safe
> Anthony
>
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>
>> On Jun 13, 2021, at 7:08 PM, Sherrie Gosling 
>> wrote:
>>
>> After updating to 14.6 I can no longer use dictation in the Amazon app.
>>
>> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 13, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've never used either of those apps; so it could be something with the
>>> update and those apps.
>>> Try it somewhere like Notes, or Email and see if it behaves the same
>>> way.
>>> If it does, then I'd contact Apple Accessibility.
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>>
>>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Rafal Marzec
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 12:19 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: A problem with dictation in apps
>>>
>>> Just two finger tap on a typing field
>>> At the moment I’ve noticed this problem in Facebook messenger and
>>> WhatsApp
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
> On 13 Jun 2021, at 8:14 pm, Richard Turner
>  wrote:

 How exactly are you starting dictation?

 And, in which apps?

 Exact steps will help duplicate the issue or find a solution.

 Thanks,


 Richard
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
 Rafal Marzec
 Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 12:09 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: A problem with dictation in apps

 Hello everyone
 I've noticed huge problems with dictation in apps When I'm starting to
 dictate something dictation function is turning off and this is not
 because of the Internet Switching between the language keyboards help
 think for a moment but after some few sentences lwhen I'm trying to
 dictate again it's turning off It's also helping for a moment after
 closing the app on the app switcher and open it again but it just
 helping for one time dictation Has anyone experienced such problems as
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RE: FaceTime on Android and Windows

[Christopher Chaltain]

I tried it when it was available, but it was completely inaccessible.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2021 11:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: FaceTime on Android and Windows

I didn't hear of anyone sighted using safari when it was available for windows.

Especially when chrome, and firefox were available and worked.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, 12 June 2021 4:20 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: FaceTime on Android and Windows

Ah, true, I should have said that I didn't hear of many blind users using 
Safari when it was available for Windows.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: FaceTime on Android and Windows

You don't hear of blind people or others for that matter running Safari on 
their PC because Safari does not exist for Windows users.
Apart from that there is ltittle use in speculating until this is available and 
we can all try it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 5:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: FaceTime on Android and Windows

Hm, maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think of Apple as having all that 
great a reputation of making simple, easy to use and accessible applications on 
other platforms. I still hear people complaining about iTunes on Windows. Last 
I knew, iCloud on the PC also wasn't the most accessible application either. I 
don't hear of many blind people running Safari on their PC's. Sorry, but I'm 
still skeptical! 

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 3:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FaceTime on Android and Windows

I am pretty sure it won't be all that complicated hell apple is not known for 
being overly complicated anyways.

On 6/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Joshua,
> Do you have an extra crystal ball I could borrow? You seem to know 
> something works easier before its competition has even been released.
> I know people who have torn their hair out over trying to share a 
> video over Zoom.
> Time will tell if Apple's share play works any better, but that cannot 
> be known until it is released.
>
>
> Richard
>
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
> On Jun 10, 2021, at 6:14 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>
> I'll just stick with zoom or skype on my computer.  They both just 
> work easier.
>
> On 6/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Well, we have only heard that it is a planned feature; no info about 
> implementation, accessibility, or anything; so being skeptical makes 
> perfect sense.
> I'm sure once public beta testing begins, there will be more details 
> around on the web concerning this.
>
> Just the fact that Apple is looking at a way to provide access to 
> non-Apple devices to FaceTime calls is worth taking note of.
>
> If this works well, it could replace Skype and Zoom and a few other 
> things if the screen sharing and all work as planned.
>
> A big if, but possibly very good.
>
>
>
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
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>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 4:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: FaceTime on Android and Windows
>
> I'm not sure how much this will open up the video conferencing world 
> since there are already so many options to choose from. Also, as a 
> blind person, I find using an application is generally preferable over 
> using the web interface, so I'm a bit skeptical of joining a Facetime 
> video conference through my browser on Windows or Android.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>