Re: Question: Trying to Remember the name of an iOS App that Allowed Off-Road Navigation for the Blind and Low Vision

[Jonathan Cohn]

this is called the getting warmer feature, and essentially after you’ve marked 
a location you’d like to go to regularly, you can then pull it up, and will 
tell you, approximately how far away it is, and what direction it is. With 
voice stream, and probably therefore, Voice Vista the direction was marked by 
tones in your ears to give fairly precise, directional information. 
blindSquare, good maps, my way light all have some feature like this.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2024, at 8:00 PM, Barbara Stahl  
> wrote:
> 
> So how does it work
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2024, at 5:46 AM, dlmlao...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> I would use Voice Vista for at least part of the strategy, and set a beacon 
>> at your front door. I think BlindSquare has a similar capability, perhaps 
>> many gps apps for the blind do.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Barbara Stahl
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 1:42 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Question: Trying to Remember the name of an iOS App that 
>> Allowed Off-Road Navigation for the Blind and Low Vision
>> 
>> Good afternoon.
>> would either of these apps allow me to more easily navigate the paths in my 
>> apartment complex?  There are multiple buildings and lots of pathways 
>> between them.  I would love to take walks there in the spring, but I fear 
>> not being able to find my way back to my building.  Would either of these 
>> apps help?  Or would another app be better?  Or does anyone have any 
>> solutions for this problem  
>> 
 On Jan 1, 2024, at 5:26 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I believe Good Maps has a off-road version.
>>> 
>>> 
> On Dec 31, 2023, at 7:08 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
 
 I believe it is. I don't think it has been updated for a long time, but I 
 think you can still download it.
 
 Jenn
 Jenn and Kumi
 
>> On Dec 31, 2023, at 5:06 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jennie,
> 
> Yes, that's it
> 
> Bravo!  Amazing how you remembered it.
> 
> Is it still around?
> 
> Thank you so much.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Jennie Facer
> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 3:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question: Trying to Remember the name of an iOS App
> that Allowed Off-Road Navigation for the Blind and Low Vision
> 
> Are you talking about Ariadne GPS?
> 
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2023, at 4:16 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone and Happy New Year!
>> 
>> Many years ago, there was an iOS app for the blind and low vision
>> that would allow one to drop a virtual pin at point A and then drop
>> subsequent pins to any location, on or off road, then would provide
>> feedback when the user wanted to travel that same path in the future.
>> 
>> I remember using it to walk to my mailbox, many, many years ago, at 
>> night.
>> It was quite a nice little app and I wonder if it is still around
>> or was renamed or something.
>> 
>> I think the last time I used it was back in 2014, or thereabouts.
>> 
>> Does anyone recall the name of the app or does anyone know of a
>> similar app that provides the same functionality, these days?
>> 
>> All replies appreciated and, again, Happy New Year to Everyone!
>> 
>> Mark
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Rotor New Settings in iOS17

[Mike B.]

 Original Message
  From: Richard Turner

  This is likely the same in iOS 17.2... but has anyone else been bothered 
by the fact that the rotor, especially in the mail app, instead of 
defaulting to Actions, it defaults to headings? I find each time I open the 
mail app, and land on a message or thread, I have to change the rotor to 
actions in order to flick up to delete the message or thread.

   Richard, USA



  From: Sieghard Weitzel

Hmm, good point, I had not yet noticed this, but you are correct, in iOS 
17.3 Beta (not sure if this was already like that in iOS 17.2, you now have 
the following options when you go to Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > 
Rotor:


First of course the Back button at the top left and then the heading “Rotor”.

If you swipe right you then have “Rotor Items, button” and when you double 
tap on this you have the familiar list of things you can select, deselect 
and reorder.

If you swipe right again, you now have this new item called “”Change rotor 
with item, switch button” and of course it can be “On” r “Off”. Swipe right 
again and you hear the following description:

Changes the selected rotor based on the Voiceover focused item.

For me this was On, so maybe check if it is on or not and if it is not, turn 
it on and see if it gives you the more familiar experience.

And just to be complete, if you swipe right again, you get “Edit apps on 
home screen, switch button, on”, again it was on for me.

Swipe right one final time and you get “Direct Touch Apps, button” and after 
that the explanation:

Direct Touch allows Voiceover to control an app directly without requiring 
more interactions.

I have to yet try this, but if I double tap on the button it then says:

“Direct Touch apps, heading”, after this “Apply To, heading” and then it 
goes into a list of all apps and items on my iPhone and by default they all 
say “Selected” for me.



Then if I swipe right I

s

 Sieghard




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Re: Question: Trying to Remember the name of an iOS App that Allowed Off-Road Navigation for the Blind and Low Vision

[Barbara Stahl]

So how does it work

> On Jan 3, 2024, at 5:46 AM, dlmlao...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I would use Voice Vista for at least part of the strategy, and set a beacon 
> at your front door. I think BlindSquare has a similar capability, perhaps 
> many gps apps for the blind do.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Barbara Stahl
> Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 1:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question: Trying to Remember the name of an iOS App that Allowed 
> Off-Road Navigation for the Blind and Low Vision
> 
> Good afternoon. 
> would either of these apps allow me to more easily navigate the paths in my 
> apartment complex?  There are multiple buildings and lots of pathways between 
> them.  I would love to take walks there in the spring, but I fear not being 
> able to find my way back to my building.  Would either of these apps help?  
> Or would another app be better?  Or does anyone have any solutions for this 
> problem  
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 5:26 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> I believe Good Maps has a off-road version.
>> 
>> 
 On Dec 31, 2023, at 7:08 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I believe it is. I don't think it has been updated for a long time, but I 
>>> think you can still download it.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
> On Dec 31, 2023, at 5:06 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Jennie,
 
 Yes, that's it
 
 Bravo!  Amazing how you remembered it.
 
 Is it still around?
 
 Thank you so much.
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Jennie Facer
 Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 3:29 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Question: Trying to Remember the name of an iOS App 
 that Allowed Off-Road Navigation for the Blind and Low Vision
 
 Are you talking about Ariadne GPS?
 
 Jenn
 Jenn and Kumi
 
> On Dec 31, 2023, at 4:16 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone and Happy New Year!
> 
> Many years ago, there was an iOS app for the blind and low vision 
> that would allow one to drop a virtual pin at point A and then drop 
> subsequent pins to any location, on or off road, then would provide 
> feedback when the user wanted to travel that same path in the future.
> 
> I remember using it to walk to my mailbox, many, many years ago, at night.
> It was quite a nice little app and I wonder if it is still around 
> or was renamed or something.
> 
> I think the last time I used it was back in 2014, or thereabouts.
> 
> Does anyone recall the name of the app or does anyone know of a 
> similar app that provides the same functionality, these days?
> 
> All replies appreciated and, again, Happy New Year to Everyone!
> 
> Mark
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Re: Apple watch and sleep focus

[Jonathan Cohn]

I finally got taptic time to work for me on my SE watch.
I had to turn off raise to speak time in the VoiceOver settings, which didn’t 
seem to do anything.
Thanks for all the notes, otherwise I would have just thought it was an 
unreliable service when VoiceOver is running. I was only able to get taptic 
time to work when I didn’t want it, like when removing the watch from my wrist.


> On Jan 3, 2024, at 3:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I received another message from Apple Accessibility yesterday where this 
> was also explained. I assume this was sent on to a higher level because the 
> first response I received simply stated what the support article said which 
> is a 1-finger double tap for hours and minutes and a 1-finger triple tap for 
> just minutes. In fact, they even pointed out " If the watch is awake, place 
> your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is 
> turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double 
> tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same 
> results".
> Below is the entire conversation I had regarding this starting with my 
> initial message, their reply, my response and then the second message where 
> they state an additional tap is required if any type of focus is active:
> 
> From: Apple Accessibility 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 11:39 AM
> To:  siegh...@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
> 
> Hello Sieghard,
> 
> Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
> one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap 
> for just the minutes.
> This is with the screen locked.
> If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep 
> or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then 
> perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled 
> and managed to get the same results.
> 
> If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
> recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support 
> team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern 
> through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the 
> appropriate teams for further investigation.
> 
> You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
> article:
> https://support.apple.com/HT209585
> 
> Sincerely,
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> On Dec 20, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I will contact somebody because as I said, I consistently get the behaviour I 
> described, i.e. if sleep focus is enabled a 1-finger double tap does nothing 
> and I am sure my watch/screen is asleep.
> 
> From: Apple Accessibility  
> Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 1:43 PM
> To: siegh...@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: RE: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
> 
> Hello Sieghard,
> 
> We wanted to quickly follow up and clarify that in order to use Taptic Time 
> in any of the Focus modes that turn of the display, like the  Sleep Focus 
> does, you will need to tap the screen once to wake it before performing the 
> double-tap for Taptic Time. The gesture should be performed as “one, one-two” 
> in a relatively quick manner.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> On Jan 02, 2024, at 8:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Thanks, that is my experience, it would be a good idea if your support 
> article about haptic time would be updated to reflect this.
> I don’t use Zoom of any sort, but I believe some gestures are also different 
> when Zoom is enabled so if that is the case with haptic time this should also 
> be mentioned.
> 
> From: Apple Accessibility  
> Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2024 10:19 AM
> To: siegh...@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
> 
> Hello Sieghard,
> 
> We’d be more than happy to request an update to our support article that will 
> reflect this information and will ensure this request reaches the appropriate 
> teams.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2024 2:13 AM
> To: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Apple watch and sleep focus
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I got a reply from Apple accessibility and actually, three taps is correct as 
> you have to tap it once to wake it up. Hope that clarifies it; it’s not a bug.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
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RE: Apple watch and sleep focus

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, I received another message from Apple Accessibility yesterday where this 
was also explained. I assume this was sent on to a higher level because the 
first response I received simply stated what the support article said which is 
a 1-finger double tap for hours and minutes and a 1-finger triple tap for just 
minutes. In fact, they even pointed out " If the watch is awake, place your 
palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned 
on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double tap. We 
tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same results".
Below is the entire conversation I had regarding this starting with my initial 
message, their reply, my response and then the second message where they state 
an additional tap is required if any type of focus is active:

From: Apple Accessibility 
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 11:39 AM
To:  siegh...@outlook.com
Subject: Re: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
 
Hello Sieghard,

Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap for 
just the minutes.
This is with the screen locked.
If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep 
or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then 
perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled 
and managed to get the same results.

If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support team 
to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern through 
troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the appropriate teams 
for further investigation.

You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
article:
https://support.apple.com/HT209585

Sincerely,
Apple Accessibility

On Dec 20, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
I will contact somebody because as I said, I consistently get the behaviour I 
described, i.e. if sleep focus is enabled a 1-finger double tap does nothing 
and I am sure my watch/screen is asleep.
 
From: Apple Accessibility  
 Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 1:43 PM
 To: siegh...@outlook.com
 Subject: Re: RE: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
 
Hello Sieghard,

We wanted to quickly follow up and clarify that in order to use Taptic Time in 
any of the Focus modes that turn of the display, like the  Sleep Focus does, 
you will need to tap the screen once to wake it before performing the 
double-tap for Taptic Time. The gesture should be performed as “one, one-two” 
in a relatively quick manner.

Sincerely,
Apple Accessibility

On Jan 02, 2024, at 8:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
Thanks, that is my experience, it would be a good idea if your support article 
about haptic time would be updated to reflect this.
I don’t use Zoom of any sort, but I believe some gestures are also different 
when Zoom is enabled so if that is the case with haptic time this should also 
be mentioned.
 
From: Apple Accessibility  
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2024 10:19 AM
To: siegh...@outlook.com
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch

Hello Sieghard,

We’d be more than happy to request an update to our support article that will 
reflect this information and will ensure this request reaches the appropriate 
teams.

Sincerely,
Apple Accessibility


-Original Message-
From: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2024 2:13 AM
To: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone 
Subject: Apple watch and sleep focus

Hi all,

I got a reply from Apple accessibility and actually, three taps is correct as 
you have to tap it once to wake it up. Hope that clarifies it; it’s not a bug.

All the best
Angie

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RE: Rotor action default in iOS 17.3 beta

[Richard Turner]

Right, because for you that setting is on.

For some odd reason, mine was off.  Once I turned it on, all works as expected.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

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Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2024 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Rotor action default in iOS 17.3 beta

 

When I open the Mail app, I am on actions.

 

Jenn 

Jenn and Kumi





On Jan 2, 2024, at 7:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Hmm, good point, I had not yet noticed this, but you are correct, in iOS 17.3 
Beta (not sure if this was already like that in iOS 17.2, you now have the 
following options when you go to Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Rotor:

 

First of course the Back button at the top left and then the heading “Rotor”.

If you swipe right you then have “Rotor Items, button” and when you double tap 
on this you have the familiar list of things you can select, deselect and 
reorder.

If you swipe right again, you now have this new item called “”Change rotor with 
item, switch button” and of course it can be “On” r “Off”. Swipe right again 
and you hear the following description:

Changes the selected rotor based on the Voiceover focused item.

For me this was On, so maybe check if it is on or not and if it is not, turn it 
on and see if it gives you the more familiar experience.

And just to be complete, if you swipe right again, you get “Edit apps on home 
screen, switch button, on”, again it was on for me.

Swipe right one final time and you get “Direct Touch Apps, button” and after 
that the explanation:

Direct Touch allows Voiceover to control an app directly without requiring more 
interactions.

I have to yet try this, but if I double tap on the button it then says:

“Direct Touch apps, heading”, after this “Apply To, heading” and then it goes 
into a list of all apps and items on my iPhone and by default they all say 
“Selected” for me.

 

Then if I swipe right I 

s

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Rotor action default in iOS 17.3 beta

 

I did notice a VO setting to change the default rotor location. Perhaps 
changing this will give you back the old behavior.

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Jan 2, 2024, at 4:17 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



This is likely the same in iOS 17.2... but has anyone else been bothered by 
the fact that the rotor, especially in the mail app, instead of defaulting to 
Actions, it defaults to headings? I find each time I open the mail app, and 
land on a message or thread, I have to change the rotor to actions in order to 
flick up to delete the message or thread.

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

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Re: Rotor action default in iOS 17.3 beta

[Jennie Facer]

When I open the Mail app, I am on actions.Jenn Jenn and KumiOn Jan 2, 2024, at 7:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Hmm, good point, I had not yet noticed this, but you are correct, in iOS 17.3 Beta (not sure if this was already like that in iOS 17.2, you now have the following options when you go to Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Rotor:
 
First of course the Back button at the top left and then the heading “Rotor”.
If you swipe right you then have “Rotor Items, button” and when you double tap on this you have the familiar list of things you can select, deselect and reorder.
If you swipe right again, you now have this new item called “”Change rotor with item, switch button” and of course it can be “On” r “Off”. Swipe right again and you hear the following description:
Changes the selected rotor based on the Voiceover focused item.
For me this was On, so maybe check if it is on or not and if it is not, turn it on and see if it gives you the more familiar experience.
And just to be complete, if you swipe right again, you get “Edit apps on home screen, switch button, on”, again it was on for me.
Swipe right one final time and you get “Direct Touch Apps, button” and after that the explanation:
Direct Touch allows Voiceover to control an app directly without requiring more interactions.
I have to yet try this, but if I double tap on the button it then says:
“Direct Touch apps, heading”, after this “Apply To, heading” and then it goes into a list of all apps and items on my iPhone and by default they all say “Selected” for me.
 
Then if I swipe right I 
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Subject: Re: Rotor action default in iOS 17.3 beta


 
I did notice a VO setting to change the default rotor location. Perhaps changing this will give you back the old behavior.

 

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On Jan 2, 2024, at 4:17 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:






This is likely the same in iOS 17.2... but has anyone else been bothered by the fact that the rotor, especially in the mail app, instead of defaulting to Actions, it defaults to headings? I find each time I open the mail app, and land
 on a message or thread, I have to change the rotor to actions in order to flick up to delete the message or thread.


 


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Re: Rotor action default in iOS 17.3 beta

[matthew dyer]

I think I remember seeing this in 17.2.  I can’t remember,ber if it was 
headings though.  This at least seems to be the case in an open message.  In 
the message list, this seems to be set to actions.

Matthew



> On Jan 2, 2024, at 4:16 PM, Richard Turner  
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> This is likely the same in iOS 17.2... but has anyone else been bothered by 
> the fact that the rotor, especially in the mail app, instead of defaulting to 
> Actions, it defaults to headings? I find each time I open the mail app, and 
> land on a message or thread, I have to change the rotor to actions in order 
> to flick up to delete the message or thread.
> 
> Richard, USA
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RE: Question: Trying to Remember the name of an iOS App that Allowed Off-Road Navigation for the Blind and Low Vision

[dlmlaochi]

I would use Voice Vista for at least part of the strategy, and set a beacon at 
your front door. I think BlindSquare has a similar capability, perhaps many gps 
apps for the blind do.



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Good afternoon. 
would either of these apps allow me to more easily navigate the paths in my 
apartment complex?  There are multiple buildings and lots of pathways between 
them.  I would love to take walks there in the spring, but I fear not being 
able to find my way back to my building.  Would either of these apps help?  Or 
would another app be better?  Or does anyone have any solutions for this 
problem  

> On Jan 1, 2024, at 5:26 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I believe Good Maps has a off-road version.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2023, at 7:08 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> 
>> I believe it is. I don't think it has been updated for a long time, but I 
>> think you can still download it.
>> 
>> Jenn
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
 On Dec 31, 2023, at 5:06 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Jennie,
>>> 
>>> Yes, that's it
>>> 
>>> Bravo!  Amazing how you remembered it.
>>> 
>>> Is it still around?
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Jennie Facer
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>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Question: Trying to Remember the name of an iOS App 
>>> that Allowed Off-Road Navigation for the Blind and Low Vision
>>> 
>>> Are you talking about Ariadne GPS?
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
 On Dec 31, 2023, at 4:16 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone and Happy New Year!
 
 Many years ago, there was an iOS app for the blind and low vision 
 that would allow one to drop a virtual pin at point A and then drop 
 subsequent pins to any location, on or off road, then would provide 
 feedback when the user wanted to travel that same path in the future.
 
 I remember using it to walk to my mailbox, many, many years ago, at night.
 It was quite a nice little app and I wonder if it is still around 
 or was renamed or something.
 
 I think the last time I used it was back in 2014, or thereabouts.
 
 Does anyone recall the name of the app or does anyone know of a 
 similar app that provides the same functionality, these days?
 
 All replies appreciated and, again, Happy New Year to Everyone!
 
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Apple watch and sleep focus

['Angie Nutt' via VIPhone]

Hi all,

I got a reply from Apple accessibility and actually, three taps is correct as 
you have to tap it once to wake it up. Hope that clarifies it; it’s not a bug.

All the best
Angie

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