Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's go gender neutral

[Laura Hale]

Hi Fae,



On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Fæ  wrote:

> * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#
> Defaulting_to_gender_neutral_language_in_the_Commons_namespace
>
> 1. "Latinx" is a reaction against using gendered forms Latino and
> Latina, in a language that has no neutral gender. This is becoming an
> accepted practice in related forums and academic publications.
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/why-people-are-using-
> the-term-latinx_us_57753328e4b0cc0fa136a159
>
>
I don't know how familiar you are with language politics, but you're 100%
factually incorrect here when saying that Spanish has no gender neutral.
It does have gender neutral, and I can have full conversations about my
spouse in Spanish without giving away the gender of the spouse.  Your
comment appears to be based on a lack of understanding of how gender works
in Spanish, and it is not helpful as a result as comments like this
suppress the voices of linguistic minorities and already marginalized
groups.

Beyond that, how people gender neutral certain gendered words in Spanish
can be very culture specific. The link to the Huffington Post is clearly an
American Spanish perspective, and there is a huge debate in various Spanish
language communities about US Spanish.  It is not a standard form of
Spanish, and there are discussions about if American Spanish will become
its own linguistically distinct language in the next decade or so, as a
sort of English/Spanish combination.  Trying to impose American Spanish on
other Spanish speakers would be grossly offensive given these linguistic
issues.  I don't think you'd appreciate Jamaican English being imposed on
you, and your handling of gendered language issues in English.  I also
don't think you'd appreciate having Germans with little to no grasp of
English trying to impose on you standards of use of English.  I'd suggest
reading some of the materials published by LGBT organizations in Spanish
speaking countries.
http://www.felgtb.org/rs/1232/d112d6ad-54ec-438b-9358-4483f9e98868/05d/fd/1/filename/guia-diversidad-ccoo.pdf
is one of them.
http://www.uab.cat/Document/964/953/Guia_uso_no_sexista_lenguaje2,0.pdf is
a guide by a university in Barcelona in how to use gender neutral language
in Spain.

Rather than have a group of non-Spanish speaking men with little knowledge
of the Spanish language and less knowledge of the cultural issues facing
the LGBT community in the countries where Spanish is the dominant language
try to justify their interference into linguistic debates for which they
are ill equipped to participate and where they are not the discriminated
against group (because my understanding is that and most of the other men
involved in this discussion are CIS gendered men), why don't you reach out
to WikiMujeres? This is a Wikimedia user group of Spanish speaking women
found at http://wikimujeres.wiki/ .  This group actively discusses these
issues in Spanish and on Wikimedia projects. They have good working
relationships with chapters and can push towards more inclusive Spanish
language usage on Wikimedia Commons much more effectively than you can
given their contacts and fluency in the language.

I am on their mailing list.  If you're actually invested in this issue,
beyond linking to an linguistically dubious article that doesn't reflect
the broader picture of Spanish and making factually incorrect statements,
I'd be happy to reach out to the women I know in WikiMujeres to see what
opportunities there are for Wikimedia LGBT to work with WikiMujeres to
address this issue.  WikiMujeres also has regular edit-a-thons on Mondays
in Madrid when MediaLab Prado is open.  If you're keen to take this
further, I can see about getting you (or any other member of this group) an
invitation to one of these sessions to discuss this issue and how to
resolve it.  (I know they were present in Berlin.  Did you have a chance to
speak with them?)


And as WorldPride is taking place in Madrid this year, doing Spanish
language activities here with the local Spanish groups might be something
seriously worth considering to take advantage.


Sincerely,
Laura Hale




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] extend mediawiki software to allow append a "group", and "COI" to an edit

[Laura Hale]

>
>
> > On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:25 AM, rupert THURNER <
> rupert.thur...@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > could wmf please extend the mediawiki software in the following way:
> > > 1. it should knows "groups"
> > > 2. allow users to store an arbitrary number of groups with their
> profile
> > > 3. allow to select one of the "group"s joined to an edit when saving
> > > 4. add a checkbox "COI" to an edit, meaning "potential conflict of
> > > interest"
> > > 5. display and filter edits marked with COI in a different color in
> > history
> > > views
> > > 6. display and filter edits done for a group in a different color in
> > > history views
> > > 7. allow members of a group to receive notifications done on the group
> > > page,
> > >or when a group is mentioned in an edit/comment/talk page.
> > >
> >
>

I think Rupert's proposal does not go far enough in terms of addressing the
potential conflict of interests by contributors because it focuses
exclusively on paid edits while failing to address other conflict of
interests problems that lead to neutrality issues.  While anyone should be
free to edit, the edit box should contain a dynamic box at the bottom that
includes a potential list of conflicts that create bias problems based on
the conflict.  The user, before submitting their edit, should click each
box verifying what their (potential) advocacy problems are so that their
edits may be vetted.  This includes gender, religion, nationality,
ethnicity, political alignment, Political party membership, academic
discipline, level of education, yearly earnings, city you live in, and
employer.

So if you are editing an article about Serbian politics, you would be asked
if you are a Serb nationalist, a Croatian nationalist, a right wing
political party member, a left wing political party member, male,
Christian, Muslim, have a PhD, work for the government, work for for a
non-profit, if you live in Belgrade, etc.  This would increase Wikipedia's
transparency and accountability of editors for their actions.  It would
actively discourage advocacy of all types, including the paid type.

Sincerely,
Laura Hale

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

[Laura Hale]

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Bohdan Melnychuk  wrote:

> Some WMUA members stay on barricades. Other help in hospitals. IDK if
> right now but they do regularly. --Base
>

I've blogged about this issue at
http://wikinewsreporter.wordpress.com/2014/02/19/ukrainian-civil-unrest-and-sochi-reporting/.
 The people I've dealt with in the chapter have been awesome all
things
considered in trying to support the movement by providing free information
while at the same time trying to deal with everything that is going on
around them.

Sincerely,
Laura Hale

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] online survey invitation

[Laura Hale]

Can you provide more information about this survey?  Some of the questions
feel really vague and context specific.  There are some terms in there that
appear to be aimed more for the researcher than the respondent ease in
answering.


On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:24 AM, zhuangziyun wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Excuse me, could you please help me with my paper by filling out a
> questionnaire? I am currently doing a project about personality traits and
> knowledge sharing in Wikipedia.
>
> The survey will take about 5 min of your time.
>
> Link:  http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/1538439/Wikipedia-Survey-Personality
>
> I need about 200 respondents, so your little help counts A LOT to me and I
> would GREATLY appreciate it!
>
> Thank you so much in advance!
>
> PS: If something is unclear or difficult to understand (English is not my
> first language), please tell me. I will fix it immediately.
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of two new user groups

[Laura Hale]

On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Michel Castelo Branco <
michelcastelobra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Unity was achieved two years ago for a Brazilian chapter. This user group
> proposal is a condition imposed by AffCom for a future apply as a chapter
> after1 year. The group accepted it in an open discussion. So, here we go...
>
> Michel Castelo Branco


Did aff-comm initially recommend to the Wikimedia Foundation board that
Wikimedia Brazil be approved as a chapter? Or did aff-comm talk them into
becoming a usergroup before any approval?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

[Laura Hale]

Hi Chris,

If there is only one Wikimedia Foundation board recognised thematic
organization, why did you chose to use a plural?  And The Wikinewsie Group
has aff-comm recognition, and as the Board has never rejected an aff-comm
recommendation, I don't particularly see the problem.

What I do see as problematic is WM-UK organizing this conference, talking
about chapters moving towards professionalism in the context of the
Wikimedia Movement while charging chapters and a thematic organization to
attend, selecting a hotel for participants to stay at that costs above the
per diem rate that the WMF funds for, and then saying there is the
expectation that it will not be an issue for people to attend with the high
registration fee and high accomodation costs because these will not be
incurred by individuals but by their organizations.

As the Movement appears to be having a discussion about finacial
responsibility and effect use of donor funds, that sort of approach appears
to run counter to all of that.  No explanation other than "We talked down
the price!" appears to have been forth coming as to why a place was
selected that costs roughly USD$200 a night.  There is no agenda for this
conference to understand why the conference is worth that expensive costs.
 The people presenting clearly are not in need of the conference as it is
Wikimedia UK, Wikimedia DE, Wikimedia PL, Wikimedia France.  These are by
and large the chapters with FDC funding or access to independent sources of
funding.  They are clearly not being targetted for training.  The people
who appear to be targetted as attendees are ones who have no money... and
you're off to charge them large amounts.

I don't see how these costs, which you expect to be absorbed by donor
funds, are a good use of those funds.  I don't see how expecting people to
incur expenses over around USD$850 to attend a two day conference ($400 for
two nights, $65 for registration, $230 for a flight from somewhere close in
Europe, $50 to get to the event from the airport, $100 in food) where the
thing starts out by violating WMF guidelines.

What knowledge exactly are you planning to pass on to people from less
developed chapters?  Fiscal responsibility, best use of donor funds,
following WMF's best practices for grant funding...  These are off the
table?  What else is there?

Sincerely,
Laura Hale

On Friday, December 6, 2013, Chris Keating wrote:

> Hi Laura, you can bypass the registration fee by selecting "other payment
> option" in the way I said.
>
> In response to another off list query, I should point out that
> unfortunately this workshop is only open to existing (incorporated &
> recognised) chapters/thorgs, not those still in planning or awaiting
> recognition.
>
>
>
>

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Registration open for Chapter Board workshop

[Laura Hale]

On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Chris Keating wrote:

> Also, in response to a query: It is possible to register without paying
> registration right away. If you click "Other Payment Options" you can
> select one of those and we will settle up with you eventually. :-)
>
> Chris


For those wanting to attend but needing scholarships to cover the event,
how do we bypass the 50 pound registration window?  Also, WM-UK
scholarships will cover above the per diem rate that the WMF limits people
to correct? :/

Sincerely,
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[Wikimedia-l] The Wikinewsie Group News Edition 6, December 2, 2013

[Laura Hale]

Hi,

This is just a notification that the latest edition of The Wikinewsie Group
News newsletter can be found at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter/6 .

Highlights:

The Wikinewsie Group News Edition 6, December 2, 2013

If you know anyone interested in Wikinews, journalism on Wikimedia projects
or The Wikinewsie Group, please encourage them to subscribe to the
newsletter by adding their name to the
list<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter>
.
The Group

   - Aff-comm recommended to the Wikimedia Foundation Board that The
   Wikinewsie Group be recognised as a thematic organization in early November.
   
[1]<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/The_Wikinewsie_Group_-_November_2013>

Education

   - Wikinews Education
Program<http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/12/02/wikinews-education-program/>
blog
   post was published on Wikimedia's official blog.
   - Discussions were had on IRC and Skype about the possibility of
   installing the education extension on Ukrainian, Czech and Korean Wikinews.
   While these could be used to potentially re-invigorate the local
   communities and provide a cohort of new contributors, the limited
   contributor base at the moment makes it difficult to implement. Greater
   partnerships would need to be done with chapters to provide people to
   assist local projects in running any education initiative.
   - What is news?
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:What_is_news.pdf> handout
   was created to supplement existing training materials as this is an area
   where new contributors sometimes have issues on English Wikinews.
   - Documenting your original sport
reporting<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Documenting_your_original_sport_reporting.pdf>
was
   created to supplement Wikinews Original Sport
Reporting<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikinews_Original_Sport_Reporting.pdf>.
   Assistance is requested in translating these documents into Spanish and
   Ukrainian.

Outreach

   - LauraHale attended Wikimedia CEE Meeting
2013<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2013> in
   Slovakia representing The Wikinewsie Group. She had conversations with
   people from several chapters about the potential to do things with TWG
   including the Polish, Estonian, Serbian, Czech and Ukrainian chapters.

Original reporting projects

   - The paperwork was submitted at the end of the month to send five
   Wikinews reporters to the Sochi Paralympic Games.
   - Attempts were made to secure media accreditation for the Commonwealth
   Games. The application was unsuccessful.


Sincerely,
Laura Hale
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikisource Community User Group recognized

[Laura Hale]

On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Bence Damokos  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> You can learn more about the group and how to join at
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_User_Group
>
> The Affiliations Committee resolution is at
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Wikisource_Community_User_Group_%E2%80%93_November_2013
> .
> The group has already signed the user group agreement, their first round of
> recognition runs until 31 November 2014.
>
> Please join me in welcoming them and wishing them luck.


Welcome and good luck. :) It is very encouraging to see people from sister
projects coming together to try to work more collaboratively together
inside their own language groups and to develop more formal ties with
existing chapters to facilitate programming to support the work being done
on them. :)

Sincerely,
Laura Hale

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright infringement - The real elephant in the room

[Laura Hale]

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Andrew Lih  wrote:

> FYI, on the last Wikipedia Weekly podcast, we talked with Sage Ross about
> the plagiarism issue, and he walked through the study with some very
> interesting insights. Video here, and the discussion started at 11 minutes,
> 30 seconds into the podcast.
>

I've done a study of student contributions on English Wikinews.  We've
found that only about 15% of student submissions have a copyright issue.
 The level of plagiarism and copyright problems is about the same for
regular contributors, new contributors and student contributors on English
Wikinews with that range of 10 to 15%.  This is an issue we have to be on
top of because nothing gets published on the project without being reviewed
for this issue.

Sincerely,
Laura Hale

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[Wikimedia-l] The Wikinewsie Group News - Edition 5, November 8, 2013

[Laura Hale]

 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter/5

The Wikinewsie Group News  Edition 5, November 8, 2013  Project news

   - The Wikinewsie Group/Local Wikinews
policiesis
the start of a guide that explains local Wikinews project policies
with
   the goal of making it easier to recognise credentials across project, build
   on accumulated reputation from one project to another and facilitate
   translation work.
   - Historical Czech Wikinews
experimentis
a blog entry by
   Okino  that looks at the
   community impact of allowing writers to write Wikinews articles from a past
   perspective, IE writing a story about a historical battle as if you were a
   journalist writing that article the day after it happened. The purpose was
   to attempt to make Wikinews more collaborative in nature and avoid the time
   constraints of the immediacy of news reporting. Okino shows that while the
   reaction to the idea was positive, the true interest in writing the
   articles of this type was small as the vast majority of them were written
   by him.
   - A conversation is taking place on Wikinoticias about allowing CC-BY-NC
   images to be locally
uploaded.[1]
   - A conversation is taking place on English Wikinews with a WMF staff
   member about the future of search and potential special search features for
   Wikinews 
projects.[2]

 Training materials

A video for new reporters who lost their first article on English Wikinews

   - A one page
guideand
a
   
screencastwere
created that explain how to avoid plagiarism on Wikinews. Available
   data suggests this is somewhat of an issue for new and student reporters on
   English Wikinews, with roughly 10 to 20% of all submitted articles having
   some sort of copyright issue.
   - Training materials were created to better support new reporters
   wanting to produce photo essays. They can be found at Photo Essays for
   Wikinews,
   Photojournalist
worksheet,
   and Wikinews Photo Essay
Formatting.
   Assistance is requested in translating these to other languages and
   localizing them to local project requirements. This would be very helpful
   ahead of the Sochi Paralympic Games, where there are expected to be a
   number of photo essays produced.
   - Given the difficulty of new reporters being unable to get their first
   article published on Wikinews, a video was created to encourage these
   writers to stick with it. It can be found at The first time writing for
   Wikinews 
good.ogv.
   It is somewhat tongue in cheek, and tries to address the emotional
   implications of a not ready review. The problem of getting new reporters
   who are unsuccessful at getting their article published has been identified
   as a major area for work. It has a large impact on reporter retention.

 Of interest for journalists

   - Copyright's Role in a Free
Pressis
an article by Terry Hart of the copyright alliance on the issue of
   funding important investigative journalism.

 Education



   - Provisional Chairperson
LauraHaleis made a
presentation at the EduWiki
   Conference 2013in
Cardiff, Wales about educational efforts on English Wikinews. Findings
   she included that changes in reviewing practices between semester 1 and
   semester 2 for one university course saw similar improvements for new
   reporters. What is good for students is good for the whole community.
   - With the Education
Extension[3]installed
successfully on English Wikinews, a portal was started at WN:EDU
   [4]  to encourage and provide
   training for educators to use Wikinews in their coursework. This is
   something The Wikinewsie Group is hoping to expand upon in the future, and
   plans to try to get translated into other languages. Plans are also
   underway to create a student portal to provide training for students. Many
   things

[Wikimedia-l] Thanks for EduWiki conference

[Laura Hale]

I wanted to thank wikimedia UK for organizing EduWiki 2013. I think they
did a fantastic  job with the conference, managed to get the right people
there, opened doors to make things happen and left me motivated to continue
to do educational outreach for Wikinews. Combine that with good wifi and
decent food, I cannot wait for next year's conference. My only request
would be less rain.


Great job. :)


Sincerely,

Laura Hale


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Kumusha Takes Wiki

[Laura Hale]

On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:

> On 02.10.2013 14:03, Florence Devouard wrote:
>
>> Dear friends
>>
>> It is my pleasure to announce the launch of a new project, "Kumusha Takes
>> Wiki".
>>
>>
> Hi Florence,
>
> you may want to look at WikiVoyage as well. There, we badly need
> reasonable info on Africa, and it can come without sources as soon as it is
> not obvious fairy tales. (It is a pity that Russia never had African
> colonies, so that the Russian Wikivoyage can not immediately benefit from
> the project).


It might also be worth looking at Wikinews.
https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:Africa is our category on English
Wikinews. (
https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%90%D1%84%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0
is
Russian.)  https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf/Wikinews has some
documents created on editing that might be useful for new contributors.
 Some one from Wikinews would probably be more than happy to customize
learning materials for the project to local needs.

Sincerely,
Laura Hale

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[Wikimedia-l] The Wikinewsie Group News - Edition 4, October 1, 2013

[Laura Hale]

A copy of the most recent edition of The Wikinewsie Group newsletter can be
found at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter/4.
 This month's edition includes information on:
* our progress with aff-comm application.
* research being conducted by the group.
* education outreach being worked on.
* planned original reporting at the Sochi Paralympic Games.
* technical updates to e-mail, servers, translation tools, etc.
* information for reporters on oppprtunities to report at the United
Nations and get more recognition for their work.
* technical issues in regards to conducting outreach.
* a list of original reporting completed in the past month-

Sincerely,
Laura Hale


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

[Laura Hale]

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Tyler Romeo  wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Andrew Lih  wrote:
>
> > I'd be OK if they simply gave some space in the training materials to
> talk
> > about public domain, free licenses and fair use. That's not likely to
> > happen given who's in control of those lesson plans.
> >
>
> You're still just arguing about the correctness of the material. I agree
> that this curriculum is stupid and misleading, but that doesn't explain why
> the WMF should care enough to make a statement, or even continue
> discussion, about it.


One alternative option would be to work with the Education folks and create
Wikimedia centric lesson plans for teachers to use that share the values
people are expressing.  These can be linked on education outreach pages,
distributed to chapters, etc.  Or general handouts can be made that explain
these concepts ad the linked on
https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf . This is a nice option
because it is pro-active and community driven.  If some one does approach
the WMF externally asking for support on this issue, they have the
materials to then work with.

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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

[Laura Hale]

On Thursday, September 5, 2013, rupert THURNER wrote:

> Personally i think this is a bad idea, especially with respect to all the
> nsa discussions. If wmf is not able to host it might be hosted by one of
> the chapters, or wikinews might accept a new article type "blog", what you
> think?
>
>
Cool idea, but maybe Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikiversity, meta or outreach
would be a better fit mission wise?  Blog hosting would violate fundamental
Wikinews project guidelines regarding neutrality, style guidelines and
verifiability.  Thus, not a good fit for Wikinews, though I am sure if you
contact the local communities, they would appreciate the suggestion. :)
 (Maybe Spanish Wikinews would appreciate it.) If it was a serious option,
Wikinewsie.org is getting Icelandic hosting for our reporting journalism
workspace to protect our reporters...  I believe we already have a
Wordpress install, so as a potential thematic organization, The Wikinewsie
Group could be placed to assist.  We chose Icelandic hosting for a variety
of reasons that have been mentioned in previous security related
discussions.

Sincerely,
Laura Hale


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata-l] Meeting about the support of Wiktionary in Wikidata

[Laura Hale]

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 6:13 PM, JP Béland  wrote:

> I agree. We also need to include the Omegawiki community.
>

Why? The question of moving them into the WMF fold was pretty much no,
because the project has an overlapping purpose with Wiktionary, and the
technology they use cannot be supported with the existing resources
available.  There was a great deal of community reasoned community
opposition.

If they independently want to engage in the process on the Wikidata side
without a goal of creating a competing Wikimedia project, that is one
thing... but bringing them to the table as equals sets bad precedent for
sister projects, contributor retention, community support, etc.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Communication plans for community engagement

[Laura Hale]

On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:

>
>>
> Not commenting on the topic of the thread, is there any data around to
> show that the English Wikipedia is mainly written by North Americans (aka
> residents of the US and Canada)? Seems to me that it is likely to be the
> case but not 100% obvious.
>
>
The answer would be best answered topically. I have data that shows
Australian content tends to be maintained by Australians.  When you start
looking at some things on the very specific gradient, other nationalistic
editing patterns appear.  During the London Olympics and Paralympics, there
was a large number of UK editors contributing to articles about ALL London
Olympic and Paralympic sports.  Boccia articles I have found are often
updated by Poles.  Equestrian has a large number of British contributors.

Sincerely,
Laura Hale


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[Wikimedia-l] The Wikinewsie Group Newsletter: Edition 2, August 6, 2013

[Laura Hale]

The second edition of The Wikinewsie Group Newsletter is officially
published at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter/2

This edition includes information on GLAM, Education, research activities,
technical news, local project news and our original reporting efforts
across all projects.  To subscribe to our on wiki version, please list your
name at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter .

Newsletter text below.

Sincerely,
Laura Hale




The Wikinewsie Group News

There is less to report, as the group spent time focusing on
behind-the-scenes aspects of obtaining thematic organization recognition.
Aff-Comm application status updates

   - The Wikinewsie Group answered several questions from the Affiliations
   Committee at Talk:The Wikinewsie
Group/Bylaws<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Wikinewsie_Group/Bylaws>
   .

Education and GLAM

   - Members are working to create educational materials to use at training
   workshops in English and Spanish. Current print training materials include a
   one page guide to original sport reporting on English English
Wikinews<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikinews_Original_Sport_Reporting.pdf>
   , a one page guide to conducting multilingual
interviews<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Conducting_multilingual_interviews_for_wikinews.pdf>
   , a guide to getting photo essays
published<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Photo_Essays_for_Wikinews.pdf>
and a guide to writing for English
Wikinews<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikinews_Guide.pdf>
   .
   - The University of Wollongong class participation on English *Wikinews* is
   winding up as the semester ended. It looks like a new semester may be
   starting soon. The instructor has created a presentation about the class on
   *Wikinews* that can be found at
StudentsInWikinews<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:StudentsInWikinews.ogv>
   .
   - A member of The Wikinewsie Group met with a GLAM partner about the
   value of English *Wikinews* and Wikinoticias for freely sharing
   knowledge about culture.

Technical updates

   - Pi zero has moved to a new phase in the development of an improved
   reviewing tool for English *Wikinews*.
   - Gryllida is working on the development of a tool to make translating
   material from one project to another easier. The new beta *wmtrans*
translation
   tool here <https://tools.wmflabs.org/wmtran/>, which you can use to
   translate*Wikipedia* and *Wikinews* articles from one language to
   another. Its difference from the Meta translation tools is include the the
   ability to translate an article as a whole, per-paragraph, and add new
   paragraphs if desired; a dictionary box for you to look up geographical
   names without loading entire Wikipedia pages; and whole-page translation
   philosophy instead of translating by parts. The tool also features a
   multilingual interface; you can add new sections to
data.ini<https://tools.wmflabs.org/wmtran/data.ini> to
   add your own. You are encouraged to send them, and bug reports, to
   Gryllida <http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Gryllida>.
   - Discussions have been going on behind the scenes about the potential
   for The Wikinewsie Group to support the technical aspects for Wikinews
   project development following suggestions on Wikimedia-l that this would be
   a place chapters could demonstrate leadership potential and work with the
   Foundation. There are currently a number of developers active in the
   Wikinews community.

Research

   - Given feedback by a member of the Wikimedia Foundation Board (Samuel
   Klien <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sj>) that the English
   language project should consider content import from other free news
   sources as a way of increasing community participation, content output and
   traffic, research was done inside the community using another language
   project as a baseline to determine the potential impact in terms of
   achieving those goals. A copy of this research can be found at
Research:Wikinews
   Content Import
Analysis<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikinews_Content_Import_Analysis>.
   In a nutshell, the findings are: content import did *not* result in
   increased community output or increased community size. Content import also
   resulted in fewer page views per published article. Content import was not
   successful at achieving a positive community or traffic related impact.
   - A tiny piece of research done examining relative article popularity by
   year on English *Wikinews* can found at Article rank and article
date<http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:LauraHale/Article_rank_and_article_date>.
   More in-depth research along these lines may produce interesting results.

Across the languages

   - Over on Italian Wikinews <http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/it:> on July 25,
   they hit 30,000 total pa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Research:Anatomy of English Wikipedia Did You Know traffic

[Laura Hale]

On Saturday, August 3, 2013, Kerry Raymond wrote:

> Hi, Laura!
>
>
Hi Kerry.  Thanks for the comments. :)


> I wonder if a variable worth considering is the number of views of the DYK
> vs the average number of page views of the article(s) (per day/week/month
> or whatever) promoted by the DYK *before* the publication of the DYK
> (obviously this can only measured for expanded articles rather than new
> ones). The hypothesis here is that more popular topics make more popular
> DYKs.
>
>
This is actually one of the areas that is worth looking at further.  People
have attempted to time DYKs to coincide with certain events.  TonyTheTiger
is actually very good at doing this for some his hooks.  It can and
sometimes does create tension in the project as people try to get things
timed for these events and not everyone wants to oblige them.  (One
situation that particulary comes to mine is the Kony2012 article at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kony_2012 where the article was stalled at DYK
because a reviewer did not want to time it to coincide with an already
large media blitz.)  It just would require a lot of subject knowledge to do
any indepth research on this topic and looking through T:TDYK to see where
things are in the special holding areas often to identify some of these.


> Another interesting variable is number of page views of the article in the
> days/weeks/months after the DYK. It would be interesting to know the extent
> to which DYKs drive additional interest in the topic both in the short term
> and whether any increase in interest is sustained longer term. I would
> hypothesize any initial sharp increase during the DYK, with a sharp
> fall-off after the DYK finishes but with a small sustained elevation.
>
>
Yes, my casual observation has been that historically, articles get an
average page views per month bump after DYK that they do not enjoy with
other processes like GA or peer review.  (This casual observation and
assumption further research would bear it out as likely fact is based on
the fact that you have rapid content development other processes do not
require, and then subsequent SEO stengthening by appearing on the front
page.)  I think having looked at the articles the hypothesis is true, but
would need a great deal of additional data that you also have two mini
traffic bumps prior to appearing at DYK, with the first being from the
contributors working on the article, and the second as a result of the DYK
review.


> It would also be interesting to see if articles mentioned in DYKs show any
> increased edit activity OR the creation of new inbound links to the article
> in the short or long term, but I am less sure about what is the baseline
> for comparison (given that a DYK article will have recently been created or
> expanded, suggesting an abnormally high level of edit activity immediately
> preceding the DYK). Possible proxies are articles in the same categories?
>
>
The possible baseline would be new articles that meet DYK articles that do
not appear at DYK or conversely comparing the article's editing history in
several periods: Before DYK work, during DYK expansion, during DYK review,
the day of and the week after DYK review, and the two month period after
the DYK.  (I had actually considered doing this type of research to look at
the contributions and DYK, but it would serve a completely different
purpose.  Hence, it would need to be retooled.  I think this could
potentially be one of the strengths of DYK that people fail to consider in
that it does give new articles of a slightly higher caliber more eyes and
potential contributors from the established editing pool than the article
would otherwise get.  I would love to see someone do research on the
contribution effect of DYK, especially say if they could possibly compare
it to other processes in terms of contributor participation.

Sincerely,
Laura Hale


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[Wikimedia-l] Research:Anatomy of English Wikipedia Did You Know traffic

[Laura Hale]

Hi,

I posted research about the factors that may impact English Wikipedia Did
You Know article traffic on the day.   Because the research is a bit long,
a copy of it can be found at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Anatomy_of_English_Wikipedia_Did_You_Know_traffic

Summary: This research examines the traffic of 544 English Wikipedia Did
You Knows to try to determine which variables play a role in the
determining the number of page views an article will get on the day. It
largely concludes that the number of dependent and independent variables
make it to difficult to isolate specific reasons why one type of article
performs better than another, though there are some general time and topics
that will likely result in greater views.

Any feedback is appreciated either here, on the research talk page or
privately.

Sincerely,
Laura Hale


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why the WP will never be a real encyclopaedia

[Laura Hale]

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Rui Correia  wrote:

>
>
> Can you honesty tell me that you have not come across articles that are
> 'untouchable'? That you know they convey a view that is not entirely right,
> but YOU and I cannot change it? Can you tell me that you have not come
> across editors who are hell-bent on preserving this or that article just as
> it is?
>
>
I too am a journalist with my work published on two different continents in
print.   I am also a social media metrics lover.  As a journalist, I value
verifiable, fact based, neutral reporting.

If you are making the claim that English and Portuguese Wikipedia are
doomed, I would love to see some verifiable, fact based, neutral oriented
data sets to support the claim, especially as this would imply systematic
bias on a large scale.  You have pulled one article and non-neutrally
labeled it as a representative article for all projects.  Yes, I know of a
number of articles and topics that are pretty much untouchable but this is
far from 99% of all articles on the project.  (I would put the number at
probably 0.1% and that feels generous.)  This feels like a sensationalist
claim (which I would normally say is trumped up by the media in order to
spin a story, but this is not a media story) based on one or two articles.

Bad research.  Bad reporting. There are ways to get attention to this VERY,
VERY important topic without resorting to sensationalist calls that have
little thoughtful documentation.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Collaborative machine translation for Wikipedia -- proposed strategy

[Laura Hale]

On Saturday, July 27, 2013, David Cuenca wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:30 PM, C. Scott Ananian
> >wrote:
>
> > This statement seems rather defeatist to me.  Step one of a machine
> > translation effort should be to provide tools to annotate parallel texts
> in
> > the various wikis, and to edit and maintain their parallelism.
>
>
> Scott, "edit and maintain" parallelism sounds wonderful on paper, until you
> want to implement it and then you realize that you have to freeze changes
> both in the source text and in the target language for it to happen, which
> is, IMHO against the very nature of wikis.
> Translate:Extension already does that in a way. I see it useful only for
> texts acting as a central hub for translations, like official
> communication. If that were to happen for all kind of content you would
> have to sacrifice the plurality of letting each wiki to do their own
> version.
>
>
Actually, this sort of translation service might be extremely useful for us
on Wikinews.  We have a fair amount of direct cross translation work from
one language to the other.  Our articles generally become non-editable
after a short period of time because of the nature of news reporting.
 There are issues for things like original reporting where getting say
original Czech language reporting outside the major news stories that
international media can easily sell for syndication do not get reported.
 Thus more local news from minority languages being shared... yeah, big
benefit for us. :)  There might be a few Wikinews language projects that
would be willing to sign on as beta testers for a collaborative translating
tool. :)  I think one of our regulars, Gryllida, has been trying to develop
a tool to make translating easier so it would fit really well with existing
project goals.

Sincerely,
Laura Hale


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[Wikimedia-l] The Wikinewsie Group Newsletter - Edition 1

[Laura Hale]

Originally published at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikinewsie_Group/Newsletter/1





The Wikinewsie Group Newsletter

Sharing news about the group's activities
and things taking place on local Wikinews projects.
Shortcut :
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Key resources

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The Wikinewsie Group
News[edit
]

Since mid-April, supporters of The Wikinewsie Group have been quite active,
doing a number of activities in support of the organization. These include
selecting a provisional board, engaging in research projects, working to
support original reporting, discussing setting up off-line events, and
promoting our efforts and the broader work being done by Wikinews reporters.

   - On May 4, a meeting was held to select the provisional board. It was
   decided that the board would be composed of the following people:
   LauraHale  (Chair), Pi
   zero , Brian
McNeil
   , 
Bjarki
   ,ProtoplasmaKid .
   The total number of people and roles was based on the draft bylaws. 18
   people, a little under half of all people who were listed as supporters,
   attended the meeting. aff-comm has been advised of this, and that we are
   ready to discuss the group's bylaws with them. They have responded back to
   indicate their review will start shortly.
   - Tentative steps are being taken to have a Wikimedia conference in
   Iceland with a Wikinews workshop as a component of it. This would likely be
   in December to coincide with the 10th birthday of Icelandic
Wikipedia.
   Having some discussions about the possibility of having a small Wikinews
   conference somewhere in Europe sometime in the next year.
   - Wikinews:GLAM  was
   created after writing about previous experiences with GLAM projects on
   English Wikinews
and
   content related to GLAMs across all
projects.
   Hopefully, with groundwork underway, there should be two announcements
   about Wikinews and GLAM projects by the end of June that will build upon
   previous success.
   - It does not look like there is a single presentation about Wikinews at
   Wikimania in Hong Kong has been approved. Given that, plans are to have
   some sort of Wikinews meetup while there independent of the official tracks.
   - Efforts are underway to do a better job at translating articles from
   one language to another, and successfully guide them through any local
   review processes. This is not a one way street of material from English
   Wikinews to other languages: We have successfully had two articles start on
   Spanish Wikinews that were translated to English Wikinews, where they
   passed the local review process and were successfully published. Comments
   on this effort are welcome at The Wikinewsie Group/Project
planning
and User talk:LauraHale:
WORTNET
   .
   - Efforts are underway to develop a matrix to understand key policy,
   community and content requirement differences between different Wikinews
   projects. Once complete, this should ease cross Wikinews collaboration by
   having a starting point to discuss content related issues when translating
   for review, and trying to standardize any policies across projects.
   - Four pieces of research have been completed. They include Blocks on
   English 
Wikinews
   , 
Wikinews:GLAM/Coverage
   , Research:Wikinews Review
Analysis
and English Wikinews and the Gender
Gap.
   If you are doing any research, formally or informally, about any language
   Wikinews pr