Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Commons on Picture Australia
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Commons on Picture Australia
repost to get cross posting now I'm on both wmau list and commons list 2009/2/3 Gnangarra > > 1 - Commons file information is actually more accurate with greater detail > compared to flickr images we have a greater degree of scrutiny ensuring that > the images are appropriate and freely licensed, also our scope isnt that of > flickr and we seek more images of record/encyclopaedic relevance. I have > already contacted PA on a number of occassion with errors in identifications > and spelling on image they already have > > 2 - All of our images are under a free license in accordance with both > policies and Australian laws the image source is listed, we can filter out > image from other sources by just creating another category call "Picture > Australia" and setting up its scope of being self made Australian images. As > PA sources include libraries they already have a number of duplicated > images, many of which dont even have the same description. > > 3 - There are already bots/scripts available that can identify recent > additions, and there are some good OS writers so having something created to > do the work shouldnt be a big issue its just a matter of finding someone > willing. Of course this would be an open source program which PA could use > else where in the future > > 4. - a Picture Australia category, and the software written to aquire > images from that category inparticular and from other categories in > particular wouldnt be a problem > > 2009/2/3 Liam Wyatt > >> Dear All, >> >> [cross post to commons-l and wikimediaaustralia-l] >> >> Picture Australia is interested in adding Commons photos to their service >> but has several technical issues they would like to resolve first. Can we >> help? >> >> Picture Australia is an archive aggregation service run by the National >> Library of Australia and aggregates searches across many Australian >> institutions (such as the various state libraries, universities, government >> departments) and also Flickr. You can see the project at >> http://www.pictureaustralia.org/index.html and you can see their other >> contributors at >> http://www.pictureaustralia.org/contribute/participants/index.html >> >> This is a quote from the email written to me from PA: >> At the moment our main source of contemporary images is Flickr and we are >> interested in investigating other sources of contemporary images. There are >> a few issues with the Wikimedia Commons that we foresee: >> 1- the metadata quality is highly variable. With Flickr contributors are >> able to provide a fair bit of additional metadata about their images. >> Before pulling images in from Wikipedia we'd need the data to adhere to >> some basic standards. (see >> http://www.pictureaustralia.org/contribute/metadata.html). >> 2- there are certainly a number of images that have been sourced from >> Picture Australia or our contributors. Pulling these in would create an >> issue with duplicate images and would likely confuse users if they were >> attempting to buy a copy. >> 3- Wikipedia doesn't have an OAI interface so we would need to look at how >> to ingest the data. >> >> I would add a 4th concern, and I'm not sure if this is a big problem or >> easily fixed, is that most of the pictures on Commons are not relevant to >> PA. Would we be able to provide a feed of only the relevant categories? >> >> All the best, >> - Liam Wyatt >> >> -- >> Email - liamwy...@gmail.com >> Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 >> Skype - Wittylama >> Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] >> ___ >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> >> > > > -- > GN. > http://gnangarra.redbubble.com/ > -- GN. http://gnangarra.redbubble.com/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Commons on Picture Australia
1 - Commons file information is actually more accurate with greater detail compared to flickr images we have a greater degree of scrutiny ensuring that the images are appropriate and freely licensed, also our scope isnt that of flickr and we seek more images of record/encyclopaedic relevance. I have already contacted PA on a number of occassion with errors in identifications and spelling on image they already have 2 - All of our images are under a free license in accordance with both policies and Australian laws the image source is listed, we can filter out image from other sources by just creating another category call "Picture Australia" and setting up its scope of being self made Australian images. As PA sources include libraries they already have a number of duplicated images, many of which dont even have the same description. 3 - There are already bots/scripts available that can identify recent additions, and there are some good OS writers so having something created to do the work shouldnt be a big issue its just a matter of finding someone willing. Of course this would be an open source program which PA could use else where in the future 4. - a Picture Australia category, and the software written to aquire images from that category inparticular and from other categories in particular wouldnt be a problem 2009/2/3 Liam Wyatt > Dear All, > > [cross post to commons-l and wikimediaaustralia-l] > > Picture Australia is interested in adding Commons photos to their service > but has several technical issues they would like to resolve first. Can we > help? > > Picture Australia is an archive aggregation service run by the National > Library of Australia and aggregates searches across many Australian > institutions (such as the various state libraries, universities, government > departments) and also Flickr. You can see the project at > http://www.pictureaustralia.org/index.html and you can see their other > contributors at > http://www.pictureaustralia.org/contribute/participants/index.html > > This is a quote from the email written to me from PA: > At the moment our main source of contemporary images is Flickr and we are > interested in investigating other sources of contemporary images. There are > a few issues with the Wikimedia Commons that we foresee: > 1- the metadata quality is highly variable. With Flickr contributors are > able to provide a fair bit of additional metadata about their images. > Before pulling images in from Wikipedia we'd need the data to adhere to > some basic standards. (see > http://www.pictureaustralia.org/contribute/metadata.html). > 2- there are certainly a number of images that have been sourced from > Picture Australia or our contributors. Pulling these in would create an > issue with duplicate images and would likely confuse users if they were > attempting to buy a copy. > 3- Wikipedia doesn't have an OAI interface so we would need to look at how > to ingest the data. > > I would add a 4th concern, and I'm not sure if this is a big problem or > easily fixed, is that most of the pictures on Commons are not relevant to > PA. Would we be able to provide a feed of only the relevant categories? > > All the best, > - Liam Wyatt > > -- > Email - liamwy...@gmail.com > Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 > Skype - Wittylama > Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] > ___ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > > -- GN. http://gnangarra.redbubble.com/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Commons on Picture Australia
Dear All, [cross post to commons-l and wikimediaaustralia-l] Picture Australia is interested in adding Commons photos to their service but has several technical issues they would like to resolve first. Can we help? Picture Australia is an archive aggregation service run by the National Library of Australia and aggregates searches across many Australian institutions (such as the various state libraries, universities, government departments) and also Flickr. You can see the project at http://www.pictureaustralia.org/index.html and you can see their other contributors at http://www.pictureaustralia.org/contribute/participants/index.html This is a quote from the email written to me from PA: At the moment our main source of contemporary images is Flickr and we are interested in investigating other sources of contemporary images. There are a few issues with the Wikimedia Commons that we foresee: 1- the metadata quality is highly variable. With Flickr contributors are able to provide a fair bit of additional metadata about their images. Before pulling images in from Wikipedia we'd need the data to adhere to some basic standards. (see http://www.pictureaustralia.org/contribute/metadata.html). 2- there are certainly a number of images that have been sourced from Picture Australia or our contributors. Pulling these in would create an issue with duplicate images and would likely confuse users if they were attempting to buy a copy. 3- Wikipedia doesn't have an OAI interface so we would need to look at how to ingest the data. I would add a 4th concern, and I'm not sure if this is a big problem or easily fixed, is that most of the pictures on Commons are not relevant to PA. Would we be able to provide a feed of only the relevant categories? All the best, - Liam Wyatt -- Email - liamwy...@gmail.com Phone - +61 (0)434 056 914 Skype - Wittylama Wikipedia - [[User:Witty lama]] ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
