Re: [WISPA] tower lighting
We had the same thing about a mile from us. A couple of the neighbors called the tower owner. They changed it to white strobes during the day and red lights after dusk controlled by a sensor. I did not ask the neighbors how much trouble it was, but the change happened pretty quickly so I assume not much. Ken Chipps chris cooper wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a process/procedure at the commission that > citizens can engage to get a tower owner to change their lighting? > There is a new cell tower in my area (rural) that has white strobes that > is impacting the viewshed in the area. I know that the owner can amend > their EA, but that's about it. The neighbors are asking me what can be > done and I honestly don't know. Any pointers much appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Chris > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Grounding
Everything - I emphasize everything - should attach to a single point ground system. The details are contained in the EIA/TIA-607 standard, various portions of the National Electric Code, and any local codes that apply. You can see some of this at http://www.chipps.com/4/EquipmentInstallation.pptx, http://www.chipps.com/5/WirelessEquipmentInstallationOutsideTowers.pptx, and http://www.chipps.com/5/WirelessEquipmentInstallationOutsideNotTower.pptx. Each of these files is very large as they contain photographs. But you need to read the standards or have someone who has do this for you. Ken Chipps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We just got some new T1's in and the phone company had us run a #6 ground wire from our main electrical ground (not earth ground) to our server room. Well, I hadn't really put much though into it, but what's the best way to incorporate that ground into our server racks? We use raised flooring, so should we have a ground from their block to our servers? Should our tower be attached to the same ground? Thanks Doug WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Tower hole size
There is no rule of thumb. Contact the manufacturer as it depends on the tower and the soil type where the tower will go. The foundation plan makes certain assumptions about the soil. If your soil does not match these assumptions, then the foundation will need to be altered. Usually this means a bigger hole. There are geologist/soil engineers who do this. Ken Chipps -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tower hole size Anyone know how big the hole should be for a self-supporting tower? Is there a guide or rule of thumb? Thanks! -RickG Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Grounding
Different systems. They also do not install expensive electronic devices in those buildings at the end of the cable runs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grounding I agree that fiber and wireless would circumvent the issue entirely. The telco and cableco run copper from building to building. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Kenneth M. Chipps PhD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Grounding > Do not connect buildings with copper cable, unless they are bonded to the > same single point ground system.. This is what wireless and fiber are for. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:09 AM > To: WISPA List > Subject: [WISPA] Grounding > > What are those of you that are connecting different buildings together > with > cat 5\6 cable doing WRT grounding? Aren't all grounding systems with > anything conductive linking them supposed to be bonded together so that > the > equipment doesn't become the path to ground? Is this as simple as placing > surge protectors on both sides or is it more complicated such as running > some 4 gauge copper alongside the cable? > > Same with an RG-6 cable. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know > your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The > current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to > know your thoughts. > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know > your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The > current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to > know your thoughts. > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Grounding
Do not connect buildings with copper cable, unless they are bonded to the same single point ground system.. This is what wireless and fiber are for. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:09 AM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Grounding What are those of you that are connecting different buildings together with cat 5\6 cable doing WRT grounding? Aren't all grounding systems with anything conductive linking them supposed to be bonded together so that the equipment doesn't become the path to ground? Is this as simple as placing surge protectors on both sides or is it more complicated such as running some 4 gauge copper alongside the cable? Same with an RG-6 cable. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Industry failings
Organic growth is growth that is generated by the company itself through its own efforts, as opposed to buying the growth. For example, if you are the first to offer wireless Internet service in an area that you setup using your own capital, then you have grown organically. In contrast, if you go to an area and buy an existing provider, you have grown through acquisition. In most industries organic growth is financed by cash flow or limited debt, whereas growth through acquisition requires higher debt loads or an equity offering. Ken Chipps -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Industry failings I have no idea what you mean by "organic growth" in contrast to "acquisition". +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Industry failings > Organic growth is difficult. Most growth is via acquisition. > > You have to offer Value. > You have to have a Plan. > You have to Execute on said plan while offering value. > > - Peter -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 750feet FSO
Sure. It is Peter Schoon at systemsupportsolutions.com based in Minnesota. al Message- >From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:05 AM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] 750feet FSO > >This is a neutral place so feel free to share the guy you know so we all >know who it is. If you have a vested interest then just say so and we >will all pummel you for being a spammer! :-) jk Please do share >who you know that can help. >Thanks, >Scriv > > >Ken Chipps wrote: > >>FSO is rock solid up to 500 meters or so, and very reliable in most cases up >>to a kilometer. If you need a vendor to help you with this, let me know. I >>know an excellent, very experienced person in this business. >> >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>Behalf Of Mario Pommier >>Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:09 PM >>To: WISPA General List >>Subject: [WISPA] 750feet FSO >> >>Can anyone say if you've successfully installed Free Space Optics at >>~750feet? >>A customer seeking to expand mentioned this company: >>http://www.mrv.com/products/line/terescope.php >>I've never heard that FSO actually performs reliably. >>Thanks. >> >>Mario >> >> >> >> >> >> >-- >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 750feet FSO
FSO is rock solid up to 500 meters or so, and very reliable in most cases up to a kilometer. If you need a vendor to help you with this, let me know. I know an excellent, very experienced person in this business. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Pommier Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 750feet FSO Can anyone say if you've successfully installed Free Space Optics at ~750feet? A customer seeking to expand mentioned this company: http://www.mrv.com/products/line/terescope.php I've never heard that FSO actually performs reliably. Thanks. Mario -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WISP Going Out of Business Sale
I will be posting this on several lists, so please forgive the cross posts. I have ten customers located in northern Johnson County Texas between Burleson and Alvarado that need a service provider. I have been providing Internet service to them for the past two years, but this is not my main business. As such it has become more trouble than it is worth. Several of these people work from home, so they are desperate. I also have a list of about 30 people I have not been able to connect, who you could connect as well. Anyone interested contact me offlist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ken Chipps -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Weather Watcher Request
Hi Brad, we do need to meet each other one of these days since we are in the same city. Interesting. I may have to look into this further. I had heard that the Sprint service was slow from other users. What is the best way to buy the hardware and monthly service for this? Is the Sprint website the only source? Why do you pay for this weather stuff? Why not use one of the local TV station web sites or WeatherBug? Ken Chipps From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 6:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Weather Watcher Request Hello Ken, Yes, Mark is correct. RDC is short (in my book anyway) for Remote Desktop Control aka Terminal Services or Citrix etc… Yes, I subscribe to www.wunderground.com for my weather information. The $5 a year it costs is well worth the money IMO (in my opinion). Pulling current, animated radar images over my Sprint DATA card has not given me any trouble. Speed test confirmation from www.testmy.net : :::.. Download Stats ..::: Download Connection is:: 654 Kbps about 0.65 Mbps (tested with 579 kB) Download Speed is:: 80 kB/s Tested From:: http://testmy.net/ (Server 1) Test Time:: 2006/09/18 - 4:26pm Bottom Line:: 11X faster than 56K 1MB Download in 12.8 sec Tested from a 579 kB file and took 7.25 seconds to complete Download Diagnosis:: 90% + Okay : running at 96.04 % of your hosts average (spcsdns.net) D-Validation Link:: http://testmy.net/stats/id-814GRHMXW I’ve seen well over 1Mbps before, but even then 654Kbps isn’t that bad. Latency typically looks like this: Pinging 4.2.2.2 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=163ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=173ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=188ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=172ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=239ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=170ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=185ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=167ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=155ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=368ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=151ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=165ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=179ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=162ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=180ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=160ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=175ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=159ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=146ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=185ms TTL=237 Reply from 4.2.2.2: bytes=32 time=143ms TTL=237 Ping statistics for 4.2.2.2: Packets: Sent = 23, Received = 23, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 143ms, Maximum = 368ms, Average = 181ms Tracert looks like this: Tracing route to vnsc-bak.sys.gtei.net [4.2.2.2] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 171 ms 157 ms 162 ms 68.28.177.69 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 191 ms 183 ms 190 ms 68.28.187.54 4 326 ms 162 ms 156 ms 68.28.187.6 5 * * * Request timed out. 6 * * * Request timed out. 7 162 ms 158 ms 164 ms 68.28.187.97 8 168 ms 153 ms 160 ms 68.28.187.18 9 194 ms 162 ms 157 ms sl-gw11-atl-0-1.sprintlink.net [144.223.140.69] 10 171 ms 161 ms 157 ms sl-bb22-atl-5-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.12.85] 11 161 ms 159 ms 188 ms sl-bb25-atl-9-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.12.38] 12 173 ms 193 ms 189 ms sl-bb22-fw-15-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.8.21] 13 186 ms 186 ms 184 ms sl-bb27-fw-12-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.11.33] 14 180 ms 183 ms 187 ms sl-st20-dal-13-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.83] 15 384 ms 173 ms 167 ms interconnect-eng.Dallas1.Level3.net [64.158.168.73] 16 166 ms 193 ms 206 ms so-1-2-0.bbr1.Dallas1.Level3.net [209.244.15.16] 17 180 ms 183 ms 192 ms ge-11-0.core1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.122.40] 18 423 ms 224 ms 199 ms vnsc-bak.sys.gtei.net [4.2.2.2] Trace complete. As with most things YMMV. (Your Mileage May Vary) Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Weather Watcher Request Remote Desktop Connection I would suspect… Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PRO
Re: [WISPA] Weather Watcher Request
Two questions. What is RDC? Is the data rate for the Sprint card high enough to download color weather radar images quickly? Ken Chipps>-Original Message->From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 05:48 PM>To: ''WISPA General List''>Subject: RE: [WISPA] Weather Watcher Request>>Agreed, cellular data is really the best solution available today and>probably always will be for the mobile user.>>I'm reading and sending mail at the office via RDC and a Sprint Data card>right now. Sitting in the passenger seat traveling at 70Mph+ and haven't>missed a ping yet in over two hours. I've been inside buildings, on>rooftops, in vehicle and out of vehicle. Just can't beat having it and it>is only getting better.>>Best,>>Brad>>-Original Message->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On>Behalf Of David E. Smith>Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:32 PM>To: WISPA General List>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weather Watcher Request>>Scott Reed wrote:>> I have had a request for service from our local SkyWarn volunteer watcher.>He >> needs service in his vehicle during potetial storms so he can see the>radar >> while watching the sky. Does anyone provide similar service? If so, how>do you >> charge for installation, service, etc.?>>Honestly, for someone who's gonna be THAT mobile, I'd recommend a cell>phone PCMCIA card. Yes, I work for a WISP, but I know what problems I>can (and cannot) solve, and at least for my network, that sort of>roaming is firmly in the "cannot" category.>>Obviously, WISP wifi roaming is possible; there was a thread about it a>couple weeks ago, where someone did a lot of voodoo with Mikrotik. But>unless your whole network already happens to support that, or the>customer is rather patient, just recommending a cell card is probably>gonna make everyone happier. (The customer gets the service they're>looking for, and you've saved many man-hours rebuilding your network :)>>David Smith>MVN.net>-- >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe:>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/>>-- >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe:>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras
Noise level is ok, but there is no under the trees due to the undergrowth. One of the points to the house location is to not be seen from the gate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras That's just about what I've been able to do with a couple Hawking cheap corner reflector 15db antennae. But, you've got to shoot under the trees...that's the secret. And, hopefully, you're in a place where the noise level is not a factor. . . . j o n a t h a n Jonathan Schmidt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ken Chipps Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras While we are talking about wireless cameras I have a question related to this. I need a camera at my front gate so I can see who is there. The problem is the gate is 1/4 mile from the house. About half of this distance is through a stand of oak trees. Do you think any of these cameras would punch through that amount of tree cover? The camera and the receiver for it would be have to mounted right at the height of the thickest part of the trees. Ken Chipps -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras Panasonic has a nice outdoor rated PTZ IP cam with motion sensor for about $550 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP Cameras I'm using one from Inscape Data. EC has them. I think I get it back tomorrow. It's been at a gas station taking video clips of someone using a stolen gas card. The guy's set to be arrested today. They've got him on cam 6 times in the last 2 or so weeks. The gas station is jazzed. It's interesting, the guy that's got it is NOT the guy that they just knew was using it! Good thing we had the cam. Next it'll be used in a town that's got someone (they think kids) taking wallets, cds, etc. from open cars. We're gonna set up in a building out on the street and set up a sting. This one has good resolution, a zoom lens, built in web server, audio and video, built in motion sensor (though it will false alarm in the dark), ethernet AND wireless. I paid about $500 for it. It's WELL worth the price. I have a $150 dlink cam too. It's got a decent picture but I never was able to get the dang thing to send pics to a server off site. I ended up just giving it away. The Inscape ones can be had with an outdoor enclosure and pan tilt zoom remote controls. I don't know exactly what those would add to the price. When I get it back I can set it up so you can view it if you'd like. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:32 AM Subject: [WISPA] IP Cameras > Someone on these lists said they had inexpensive ip cams with motion > detection and they paid like 140.00 for it. > > Anyone remember or know what camera? > I'm looking for something like this, but in an outdoor enclosure. > > Thanks > > George Rogato > > Welcome to WISPA > > www.wispa.org > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras
Separate electric meters. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Kreigh Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:57 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras What about a powerline ethernet adapter, assuming the power to the end of the drive feeds off the house? -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Chipps Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras While we are talking about wireless cameras I have a question related to this. I need a camera at my front gate so I can see who is there. The problem is the gate is 1/4 mile from the house. About half of this distance is through a stand of oak trees. Do you think any of these cameras would punch through that amount of tree cover? The camera and the receiver for it would be have to mounted right at the height of the thickest part of the trees. Ken Chipps -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras Panasonic has a nice outdoor rated PTZ IP cam with motion sensor for about $550 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP Cameras I'm using one from Inscape Data. EC has them. I think I get it back tomorrow. It's been at a gas station taking video clips of someone using a stolen gas card. The guy's set to be arrested today. They've got him on cam 6 times in the last 2 or so weeks. The gas station is jazzed. It's interesting, the guy that's got it is NOT the guy that they just knew was using it! Good thing we had the cam. Next it'll be used in a town that's got someone (they think kids) taking wallets, cds, etc. from open cars. We're gonna set up in a building out on the street and set up a sting. This one has good resolution, a zoom lens, built in web server, audio and video, built in motion sensor (though it will false alarm in the dark), ethernet AND wireless. I paid about $500 for it. It's WELL worth the price. I have a $150 dlink cam too. It's got a decent picture but I never was able to get the dang thing to send pics to a server off site. I ended up just giving it away. The Inscape ones can be had with an outdoor enclosure and pan tilt zoom remote controls. I don't know exactly what those would add to the price. When I get it back I can set it up so you can view it if you'd like. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:32 AM Subject: [WISPA] IP Cameras > Someone on these lists said they had inexpensive ip cams with motion > detection and they paid like 140.00 for it. > > Anyone remember or know what camera? > I'm looking for something like this, but in an outdoor enclosure. > > Thanks > > George Rogato > > Welcome to WISPA > > www.wispa.org > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras
While we are talking about wireless cameras I have a question related to this. I need a camera at my front gate so I can see who is there. The problem is the gate is 1/4 mile from the house. About half of this distance is through a stand of oak trees. Do you think any of these cameras would punch through that amount of tree cover? The camera and the receiver for it would be have to mounted right at the height of the thickest part of the trees. Ken Chipps -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras Panasonic has a nice outdoor rated PTZ IP cam with motion sensor for about $550 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP Cameras I'm using one from Inscape Data. EC has them. I think I get it back tomorrow. It's been at a gas station taking video clips of someone using a stolen gas card. The guy's set to be arrested today. They've got him on cam 6 times in the last 2 or so weeks. The gas station is jazzed. It's interesting, the guy that's got it is NOT the guy that they just knew was using it! Good thing we had the cam. Next it'll be used in a town that's got someone (they think kids) taking wallets, cds, etc. from open cars. We're gonna set up in a building out on the street and set up a sting. This one has good resolution, a zoom lens, built in web server, audio and video, built in motion sensor (though it will false alarm in the dark), ethernet AND wireless. I paid about $500 for it. It's WELL worth the price. I have a $150 dlink cam too. It's got a decent picture but I never was able to get the dang thing to send pics to a server off site. I ended up just giving it away. The Inscape ones can be had with an outdoor enclosure and pan tilt zoom remote controls. I don't know exactly what those would add to the price. When I get it back I can set it up so you can view it if you'd like. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:32 AM Subject: [WISPA] IP Cameras > Someone on these lists said they had inexpensive ip cams with motion > detection and they paid like 140.00 for it. > > Anyone remember or know what camera? > I'm looking for something like this, but in an outdoor enclosure. > > Thanks > > George Rogato > > Welcome to WISPA > > www.wispa.org > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: SPAM-LOW: [WISPA] Shielded / grounded CAT5
I do not see anything like this on Belden's site, Can you be more specific or send a copy of what you are talking about? Ken Chipps -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Delp Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:55 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: [WISPA] Sheilded / grounded CAT5 I found a great pdf file on Belden's site showing how to make shielded ends. We use them on all of our AP's. Some CPE installs require shielded also. Like a 900 Canopy recently sharing space with a ham radio in the 145MHz range. They have a Cable 101 section somewhere. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: SPAM-LOW: [WISPA] Sheilded / grounded CAT5 I'm interested in finding out how to make best use of shielded CAT5. Where do I find connectors with the shielding, instructions for these things, etc? I'm going to be working near some high RF spots and think that shielded CAT5 would be good to use. Thanks Mark +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/433 - Release Date: 8/30/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Self Adhesive Mini PCB supports for Mikrotik
What brand and part number cable and connectors do you use for the CAT5E cable? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Rogers Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 1:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Self Adhesive Mini PCB supports for Mikrotik I myself use them at our tower sites at the bottom AND the top. I had a tower get struck, directly and lost everything...including the switch at the location. Since then, I figured 3mil volts can go through thin cat5e jacketing. Even through the shielding if it isn't properly grounded. Now I soldier the casings onto the crimp on ends when possible so hopefully it will go to ground without hitting the copper inside. I use the Hyperlink surge protection, and the keystone jacks are for shielded cabling, so it goes to ground. The surge suppression is just added protection. Remember, electricity takes the least path of resistance, when metal heats up, it becomes more resistant. So that bolt of lightning can go where it wants... That said, I am giving the electricity 2 points to exit to ground, so hopefully I don't lose any more equipment. The tower is WELL grounded, it is an old AT&T sight, with the copper mesh in the ground, and all buildings and towers have copper 5/8" or larger going up the sides and cad welded to them and also to the grid below ground. LOTS of money... I don't at the CPE, just use the built-in surge suppression and definitely ground the CPE for static. I see it as if the house gets struck by lightning; they have more to worry about than internet... Now if a tower gets struck, I have hundreds down, not 1. Eric Rogers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Self Adhesive Mini PCB supports for Mikrotik Do you find that a surge supressor at the CPE is better then at the internal PC/Router/Switch? Or do you use one at each end? Jeromie Harold Bledsoe wrote: >I can answer some of these... > >It looks like a Zinwell B191 RTL8181 with a Citel indoor surge >protector. > >-Hal > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves >Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 9:24 PM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Self Adhesive Mini PCB supports for Mikrotik > >Looks good. What radio are you using with what looks to be a Realtek >SoC? Is that >a PoE splitter, a surge supressor, or both? How long is that RF pigtail? > >Jeromie > >Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > > > >>I take a self tapper and run it out the bottom of my metal box, attach >> >> > > > >>a #12 piggy tail, and attach the other end through a hole on the >>board. Kind of like the attached pic. Should work, eh? >> >>Brian >> >>Harold Bledsoe wrote: >> >> >> >>>One word to the wise on these: many PCBs are grounded through the >>>screw holes. If you are using plastic standoffs, you may want to >>>consider grounding the board some other way... >>> >>>-Hal >>> >>>-- >>>Harold Bledsoe >>>Deliberant Wireless >>>http://www.deliberant.com >>> >>> >>> >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mark Nash >>>Sent: Fri 8/25/2006 1:04 PM >>>To: WISPA General List >>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Self Adhesive Mini PCB supports for Mikrotik >>> >>> >>> >>>I'll take some... Catch me offlist. >>> >>>Mark >>>-Original Message- >>>From: Brian Rohrbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:21:57 >>>To:Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization >>>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Subject: [WISPA] Self Adhesive Mini PCB supports for Mikrotik >>> >>> >>> >>> >https://secure.microplastics.com/detail.asp?part=minilockpcbsupport&fam = >cbhardware > > >>>They have them in stock now. I remember there was some talk about >>> >>> >these > > >>>a while ago. >>>$50 min order so I just got 400 or so of the self adhesive PCB >>> >>> >supports. > > >>>I got the 5/8 standoff (should be able to fit the cards under the >>>board too) >>> >>>I don't need 400, so if anyone wants a few, let me know. >>> >>>Otherwise, just letting ya'll know they are in stock. >>> >>>www.microplastics.com >>>-- >>>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>-- >>>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >--- - > > > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wis
[WISPA] Need Service near Weatherford and Granbury Texas
Does anyone provide service in Texas to the area about halfway between Weatherford and Granbury along Highway 51 the Granbury Highway? Ken Chipps [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer
I use the Avcom 1727B. I am not too far from you, if you want to look at one before buying it. Contact me offlist. Ken Chipps [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory Privett Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 2:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Can someone recommend a fairly simple spectrum analyzer that will do 2.4 and 5.8. I need something that is portable and not to complicated to use. Jory Privett WCCS -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
