Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
Those are just Ubiquiti AirMax systems, nothing fancy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 10:46 AM, Robert West wrote: 40mhz channel width on all radios? Licensed or non? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna 300 meg association rate, closer to 130 - 150 actual throughput, at the AP, not at the CPE. I'd say probably no more than 30 customers per AP. You might have usable throughput at the end of that. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 8:14 AM, Robert West wrote: 300mbps to cpe? I wish! What mix of equipment are you using? Logically the technology needs to ultimately be able to deliver up to a Gig. I supposed White Space devices may eventually have that capability but at what cost? Would be a major bonus to be able to push that much data cheap enough to use for residential installs. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I'm engineering everything to be able to deliver that kind of performance going forward. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/4/2011 7:05 PM, Robert West wrote: Well, the math says that since Ive been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would only equal 510 plus tax. The difference would pay for shipping easily. The bonus, hard to say it, but its the single polarity. With a 5.8 system its important to me to be able to separate polarity between the backhaul and the AP. Man, I really wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one chain on the Rockets Who has a network that needs to deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer? These look good. Who is stocking them? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna First time with my eyes. Looks impressive though. Design reminds me of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical slide that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition. I really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite getting there. Hm What are the price points on these dudes? Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna any experience with these? Any good? http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
How are the NanoBridges? I haven't started using them yet but suggest Liam give them a try and replace the NanoStations he's been using. But he's doing 2.4 so the gain isn't as great on the 2.4's. Any experience with the 2.4 flavor over the Nano? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna It's all about how you engineer it. I'm not judging your installs because I don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles. You won't have quality connections doing that. NanoBridge 22s and 25s are about all I'm looking to use for CPE. By the time I'm ready to start building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available. In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more customers, so your ranges are less. I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles. In the country, 10 - 15 miles. In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 12:02 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Not sure where you are going to be able to run 3x sectors on 40Mz channels - at least not where people are. In my fairly noisy area MIMO's strength is the ability get 20-25Mbps on a 10MHz channel - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 6:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna 300 meg association rate, closer to 130 - 150 actual throughput, at the AP, not at the CPE. I'd say probably no more than 30 customers per AP. You might have usable throughput at the end of that. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 8:14 AM, Robert West wrote: 300mbps to cpe? I wish! What mix of equipment are you using? Logically the technology needs to ultimately be able to deliver up to a Gig. I supposed White Space devices may eventually have that capability but at what cost? Would be a major bonus to be able to push that much data cheap enough to use for residential installs. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I'm engineering everything to be able to deliver that kind of performance going forward. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/4/2011 7:05 PM, Robert West wrote: Well, the math says that since I've been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would only equal 510 plus tax. The difference would pay for shipping easily. The bonus, hard to say it, but it's the single polarity. With a 5.8 system it's important to me to be able to separate polarity between the backhaul and the AP. Man, I really wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one chain on the Rockets Who has a network that needs to deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer? These look good. Who is stocking them? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna First time with my eyes. Looks impressive though. Design reminds me of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical slide that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition. I really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite getting there. Hm.. What are the price points on these dudes? Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna any experience with these? Any good? http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3358 - Release Date: 01/04/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
I believe the Beam Steering AP will only come with GPS, but yes, I would utilize that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 2:20 PM, Robert West wrote: Doing the new GPS Sync on the AP in order to go 40mhz wide? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna Those are just Ubiquiti AirMax systems, nothing fancy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 10:46 AM, Robert West wrote: 40mhz channel width on all radios? Licensed or non? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna 300 meg association rate, closer to 130 - 150 actual throughput, at the AP, not at the CPE. I'd say probably no more than 30 customers per AP. You might have usable throughput at the end of that. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 8:14 AM, Robert West wrote: 300mbps to cpe? I wish! What mix of equipment are you using? Logically the technology needs to ultimately be able to deliver up to a Gig. I supposed White Space devices may eventually have that capability but at what cost? Would be a major bonus to be able to push that much data cheap enough to use for residential installs. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I'm engineering everything to be able to deliver that kind of performance going forward. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/4/2011 7:05 PM, Robert West wrote: Well, the math says that since Ive been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would only equal 510 plus tax. The difference would pay for shipping easily. The bonus, hard to say it, but its the single polarity. With a 5.8 system its important to me to be able to separate polarity between the backhaul and the AP. Man, I really wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one chain on the Rockets Who has a network that needs to deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer? These look good. Who is stocking them? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna First time with my eyes. Looks impressive though. Design reminds me of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical slide that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition. I really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
Initially beam steering will be 5Gig. Might be a while for 2.4 flavor - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I believe the Beam Steering AP will only come with GPS, but yes, I would utilize that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 2:20 PM, Robert West wrote: Doing the new GPS Sync on the AP in order to go 40mhz wide? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna Those are just Ubiquiti AirMax systems, nothing fancy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 10:46 AM, Robert West wrote: 40mhz channel width on all radios? Licensed or non? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna 300 meg association rate, closer to 130 - 150 actual throughput, at the AP, not at the CPE. I'd say probably no more than 30 customers per AP. You might have usable throughput at the end of that. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 8:14 AM, Robert West wrote: 300mbps to cpe? I wish! What mix of equipment are you using? Logically the technology needs to ultimately be able to deliver up to a Gig. I supposed White Space devices may eventually have that capability but at what cost? Would be a major bonus to be able to push that much data cheap enough to use for residential installs. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I'm engineering everything to be able to deliver that kind of performance going forward. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/4/2011 7:05 PM, Robert West wrote: Well, the math says that since I've been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would only equal 510 plus tax. The difference would pay for shipping easily. The bonus, hard to say it, but it's the single polarity. With a 5.8 system it's important to me to be able to separate polarity between the backhaul and the AP. Man, I really wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one chain on the Rockets Who has a network that needs to deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer? These look good. Who is stocking them? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna First time with my eyes. Looks impressive though. Design reminds me of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical slide that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition. I really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite getting there. Hm.. What are the price points on these dudes? Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM To: motor...@afmug.commailto:motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna any experience with these? Any good? http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf [cid:image001.jpg@01CBACD4.3F90A780] No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3358 - Release Date: 01/04/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
Right. I don't use any 2.4 in PtMP, only localized access. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 2:29 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Initially beam steering will be 5Gig. Might be a while for 2.4 flavor - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I believe the Beam Steering AP will only come with GPS, but yes, I would utilize that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 2:20 PM, Robert West wrote: Doing the new GPS Sync on the AP in order to go 40mhz wide? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna Those are just Ubiquiti AirMax systems, nothing fancy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 10:46 AM, Robert West wrote: 40mhz channel width on all radios? Licensed or non? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna 300 meg association rate, closer to 130 - 150 actual throughput, at the AP, not at the CPE. I'd say probably no more than 30 customers per AP. You might have usable throughput at the end of that. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 8:14 AM, Robert West wrote: 300mbps to cpe? I wish! What mix of equipment are you using? Logically the technology needs to ultimately be able to deliver up to a Gig. I supposed White Space devices may eventually have that capability but at what cost? Would be a major bonus to be able to push that much data cheap enough to use for residential installs. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I'm engineering everything to be able to deliver that kind of performance going forward. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/4/2011 7:05 PM, Robert West wrote: Well, the math says that since Ive been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would only equal 510 plus tax. The difference would pay for shipping easily. The bonus, hard to say it, but its the single polarity. With a 5.8 system its important to me to be able to separate polarity between the backhaul and the AP. Man, I really wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one chain on the Rockets Who has a network that needs to deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer? These look good. Who is stocking them? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
Steering APs from UBNT? Greg On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: It's all about how you engineer it. I'm not judging your installs because I don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles. You won't have quality connections doing that. NanoBridge 22s and 25s are about all I'm looking to use for CPE. By the time I'm ready to start building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available. In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more customers, so your ranges are less. I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles. In the country, 10 - 15 miles. In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
Yessir and with sync too. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Jan 5, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Steering APs from UBNT? Greg On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: It's all about how you engineer it. I'm not judging your installs because I don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles. You won't have quality connections doing that. NanoBridge 22s and 25s are about all I'm looking to use for CPE. By the time I'm ready to start building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available. In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more customers, so your ranges are less. I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles. In the country, 10 - 15 miles. In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
Keep up, you must. http://www.3dbwireless.com/boyd/?p=238 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 6:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Steering APs from UBNT? Greg On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: It's all about how you engineer it. I'm not judging your installs because I don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles. You won't have quality connections doing that. NanoBridge 22s and 25s are about all I'm looking to use for CPE. By the time I'm ready to start building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available. In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more customers, so your ranges are less. I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles. In the country, 10 - 15 miles. In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
Yep. Check 'em out! http://www.digdice.com/new-ubiquiti-airmax-products-pictures/ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna Steering APs from UBNT? Greg On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: It's all about how you engineer it. I'm not judging your installs because I don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles. You won't have quality connections doing that. NanoBridge 22s and 25s are about all I'm looking to use for CPE. By the time I'm ready to start building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available. In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more customers, so your ranges are less. I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles. In the country, 10 - 15 miles. In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Better link. Has descriptions. http://www.digdice.com/ubiquiti-new-product-line/ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna Steering APs from UBNT? Greg On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: It's all about how you engineer it. I'm not judging your installs because I don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles. You won't have quality connections doing that. NanoBridge 22s and 25s are about all I'm looking to use for CPE. By the time I'm ready to start building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available. In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more customers, so your ranges are less. I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles. In the country, 10 - 15 miles. In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
any experience with these? Any good? http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf [cid:image001.jpg@01CBAC24.81969280] inline: image001.jpgattachment: Jerry Richardson.vcf WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
I was supposed to get samples of these. Verify that they are available, but AFAIK they are not yet available. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: any experience with these? Any good? http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
First time with my eyes. Looks impressive though. Design reminds me of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical slide that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition. I really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite getting there. Hm.. What are the price points on these dudes? Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna any experience with these? Any good? http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna First time with my eyes. Looks impressive though. Design reminds me of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical slide that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition. I really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite getting there. Hm.. What are the price points on these dudes? Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna any experience with these? Any good? http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf [cid:image001.jpg@01CBAC2E.506328E0] No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3358 - Release Date: 01/04/11 inline: image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
Were you able to confirm that they are shipping? Regards, Chuck On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea - Jerry *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Robert West *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna First time with my eyes. Looks impressive though. Design reminds me of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus “Mechanical slide” that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition. I really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite getting there. Hm…… What are the price points on these dudes? Me- *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM *To:* motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna any experience with these? Any good? http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3358 - Release Date: 01/04/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
Well, the math says that since I've been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would only equal 510 plus tax. The difference would pay for shipping easily. The bonus, hard to say it, but it's the single polarity. With a 5.8 system it's important to me to be able to separate polarity between the backhaul and the AP. Man, I really wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one chain on the Rockets Who has a network that needs to deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer? These look good. Who is stocking them? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna First time with my eyes. Looks impressive though. Design reminds me of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical slide that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition. I really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite getting there. Hm.. What are the price points on these dudes? Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna any experience with these? Any good? http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3358 - Release Date: 01/04/11 image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
If they're like the rest of ARC's equipment they should be excellent. On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: any experience with these? Any good? http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
At the AirMax conference, I think someone from Ubiquiti said you could put a couple of 50ohm 30dB attenuators on one chain to externally disable it. -Kristian On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 20:05 -0500, Robert West wrote: Well, the math says that since I’ve been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would only equal 510 plus tax. The difference would pay for shipping easily. The bonus, hard to say it, but it’s the single polarity. With a 5.8 system it’s important to me to be able to separate polarity between the backhaul and the AP. Man, I really wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one chain on the Rockets Who has a network that needs to deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer? These look good. Who is stocking them? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna First time with my eyes. Looks impressive though. Design reminds me of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus “Mechanical slide” that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition. I really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite getting there. Hm…… What are the price points on these dudes? Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna any experience with these? Any good? http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf __ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3358 - Release Date: 01/04/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
Yep. An afterthought hardware workaround. Thought the same thing but messy. Would be slick to redirect the energy with a click of the mouse through the firmware. Was suggested early on during the beta tests but was dismissed by those who were blinded by the glory. It just makes logical sense to be able to easily switch off a chain. Crazy, man. Just crazy.. Heck, I can turn off one antenna in a nothing Wal-Mart wireless router -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:03 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna At the AirMax conference, I think someone from Ubiquiti said you could put a couple of 50ohm 30dB attenuators on one chain to externally disable it. -Kristian On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 20:05 -0500, Robert West wrote: Well, the math says that since I’ve been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would only equal 510 plus tax. The difference would pay for shipping easily. The bonus, hard to say it, but it’s the single polarity. With a 5.8 system it’s important to me to be able to separate polarity between the backhaul and the AP. Man, I really wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one chain on the Rockets Who has a network that needs to deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer? These look good. Who is stocking them? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna First time with my eyes. Looks impressive though. Design reminds me of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus “Mechanical slide” that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition. I really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite getting there. Hm…… What are the price points on these dudes? Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna any experience with these? Any good? http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf __ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3358 - Release Date: 01/04/11 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
As noisy as 2.4 is anymore I don't see how you could run both chains to begin with. I never realized that you couldn't turn one off. It does seem like a glaring issue to me. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna Yep. An afterthought hardware workaround. Thought the same thing but messy. Would be slick to redirect the energy with a click of the mouse through the firmware. Was suggested early on during the beta tests but was dismissed by those who were blinded by the glory. It just makes logical sense to be able to easily switch off a chain. Crazy, man. Just crazy.. Heck, I can turn off one antenna in a nothing Wal-Mart wireless router -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:03 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna At the AirMax conference, I think someone from Ubiquiti said you could put a couple of 50ohm 30dB attenuators on one chain to externally disable it. -Kristian On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 20:05 -0500, Robert West wrote: Well, the math says that since I've been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would only equal 510 plus tax. The difference would pay for shipping easily. The bonus, hard to say it, but it's the single polarity. With a 5.8 system it's important to me to be able to separate polarity between the backhaul and the AP. Man, I really wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one chain on the Rockets Who has a network that needs to deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer? These look good. Who is stocking them? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna First time with my eyes. Looks impressive though. Design reminds me of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical slide that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition. I really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite getting there. Hm.. What are the price points on these dudes? Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna any experience with these? Any good? http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf __ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3358 - Release Date: 01/04/11 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless