[WSG] Marking up company logo
Hi, For a few years now I've been marking up a clients company logo as a h1. I just wanted to get an idea of how many people actually do this compared to using a html image tag? I believe a h1 is more semantically correct however I'd be interested in seeing what other people on this list think. Cheers *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo
Thanks for all the feedback regarding this. I'm actually beginning to think an html image tag would be better suited to mark-up a company logo and reserving the h1 for the main page title, this seems to make more sense to me after giving it more thought. Also most of the sites I build use CMS's and clients will go ahead and use a h1 anyway for the top level heading in the editable area therefore the logical order of headers is broken. At the end of the day semantics means a lot more to me than SEO. On a side note I find I have to insert an image tag (for the logo) for the print version as most clients aren't happy about showing plain text from the h1 as we all know that printing background images is turned off by default. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Pearce Sent: Wednesday, 28 May 2008 5:49 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Marking up company logo Hi, For a few years now I've been marking up a clients company logo as a h1. I just wanted to get an idea of how many people actually do this compared to using a html image tag? I believe a h1 is more semantically correct however I'd be interested in seeing what other people on this list think. Cheers *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Marking up multiple form inputs
Hi, I realise tables shouldn't be used for layouts. Doesn't this information suit a table structure though (tabular data)? If not what would you use? Cheers [cid:image001.gif@01C8CAF6.0206E130]http://www.bluearcgroup.com/ solutions for a digital world Exchange Server 2007 Built-in Protection, Anywhere Access, Operational Efficiency BLUEARC WILL HELP YOU MAKE THE MOVE. FIND OUT HOWhttp://www.bluearcgroup.com/content.asp?z=6c=104p=494f=2 level 1, 11 albany street st leonards nsw 2065 p: 02 9467 2500 d: 02 9467 25 f: 02 9431 5999 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.bluearcgroup.comhttp://www.bluearcgroup.com/ ARE YOU READY FOR NEXT GENERATION WEB TECHNOLOGY? Leading the way in Web Content Management, IgnitionSuite Version 3.0 prepares you for the future of the web. To learn more call 9467 2500 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Privileged - Private Confidential This email and files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain information which is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this email or any attachment is prohibited. If you receive this email and you are not the addressee, or you have received this email in error, please disregard the contents of the email, delete the email and notify the author immediately. P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ray Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2008 12:22 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Marking up multiple form inputs Tables shouldn't be used for layouts, use style sheets instead, but they should be used for information which lends itself well to a table. If you are trying to display data in an organised format, which requires columns and rows, then use a table. Jason On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Chris Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Would the following layout be best marked up using a table: Column Header Column Header [label tag] [input tag] [input tag] [label tag] [input tag] [input tag] [label tag] [input tag] [input tag] Cheers [cid:image001.gif@01C8CAF6.0206E130]http://www.bluearcgroup.com/ solutions for a digital world Exchange Server 2007 Built-in Protection, Anywhere Access, Operational Efficiency BLUEARC WILL HELP YOU MAKE THE MOVE. FIND OUT HOWhttp://www.bluearcgroup.com/content.asp?z=6c=104p=494f=2 level 1, 11 albany street st leonards nsw 2065 p: 02 9467 2500 d: 02 9467 25 f: 02 9431 5999 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.bluearcgroup.comhttp://www.bluearcgroup.com/ ARE YOU READY FOR NEXT GENERATION WEB TECHNOLOGY? Leading the way in Web Content Management, IgnitionSuite Version 3.0 prepares you for the future of the web. To learn more call 9467 2500 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Privileged - Private Confidential This email and files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain information which is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this email or any attachment is prohibited. If you receive this email and you are not the addressee, or you have received this email in error, please disregard the contents of the email, delete the email and notify the author immediately. P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** inline: image001.gif
[WSG] Scaling a background image
Hi, Has anyone been able to successfully scale a CSS background image to the current window size? I've done some research via Google and it appears this can't be done purely with CSS (at least not yet), maybe some JavaScript? Thanks [cid:image001.gif@01C8DA99.CCBE3C90]http://www.bluearcgroup.com/ solutions for a digital world Exchange Server 2007 Built-in Protection, Anywhere Access, Operational Efficiency BLUEARC WILL HELP YOU MAKE THE MOVE. FIND OUT HOWhttp://www.bluearcgroup.com/content.asp?z=6c=104p=494f=2 level 1, 11 albany street st leonards nsw 2065 p: 02 9467 2500 d: 02 9467 25 f: 02 9431 5999 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.bluearcgroup.comhttp://www.bluearcgroup.com/ ARE YOU READY FOR NEXT GENERATION WEB TECHNOLOGY? Leading the way in Web Content Management, IgnitionSuite Version 3.0 prepares you for the future of the web. To learn more call 9467 2500 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Privileged - Private Confidential This email and files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain information which is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this email or any attachment is prohibited. If you receive this email and you are not the addressee, or you have received this email in error, please disregard the contents of the email, delete the email and notify the author immediately. P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** inline: image001.gif
RE: [WSG] Scaling a background image
This looks pretty good, I'll give it a whirl.
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Per Allan
Johansson
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 6:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Scaling a background image
I do it here:
http://www.sydost.no/
Like this, in head
style type=text/css
html {height:100%;}
body {height:100%; margin:0; padding:0;}
#bg {position:fixed; top:0; left:0; width:100%; height:100%;}
.outer_framework {position:relative; z-index:1;}
/style!--[if IE 6]style type=text/css
html {overflow-y:hidden;}
body {overflow-y:auto;}
#bg {position:absolute; z-index:-1;}
.outer_framework {position:static;}
/style![endif]--
And then I include the picture in my html, not the coolest thing but it
works:
div id=bgimg alt= height=100%
src=http://www.sydost.no/images/bg.jpg; width=100% //div
Hope it helps.
Kind regards
Per Allan Johansson
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dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev følgende den 30.06.08 22.04:
this is true.
On 6/30/08, Matijs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SVG is not really suitable for photos though.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:24 PM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it seems that it used to, but the browser rendering has changed. i
read, not too closely, in the svg specs how to edit the files to make
it fit infinite screen resolutions.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would have though a simple CSS width:100%; , height:auto might do it?
does it need to be a background and will it conflict with anything
at different sizes?
?
On Jun 30, 2008, at 05:15, dwain wrote:
On 6/29/08, Chris Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone been able to successfully scale a CSS background image to
the
current window size? I've done some research via Google and it appears
this
can't be done purely with CSS (at least not yet), maybe some
JavaScript?
there is a way to do it by using svg images, but i'm unclear on the
process. i think that the svg files has to be edited for the images to
scale to a screen's resolution. but anyway, svg is the wave of the
future
for web images.
cheers,
dwain
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RE: [WSG] .NET sites which are XHTML 1.0 strict
I’m a front-end developer who works with a lot of .NET developers and one of
the things that bugs me about .NET sites is the amount of JavaScript Visual
Studio inserts under the main form tag:
script type=text/javascript
//![CDATA[
var theForm = document.forms['aspnetForm'];
if (!theForm) {
theForm = document.aspnetForm;
}
function __doPostBack(eventTarget, eventArgument) {
if (!theForm.onsubmit || (theForm.onsubmit() != false)) {
theForm.__EVENTTARGET.value = eventTarget;
theForm.__EVENTARGUMENT.value = eventArgument;
theForm.submit();
}
}
//]]
/script
script
src=/WebResource.axd?d=LvbDMffnZ-s6ymcTE4g6WQ2amp;t=633436949196615500
type=text/javascript/script
script
src=/ScriptResource.axd?d=wrIZKZL7_KbgLXTMiWfYzsQspz8GwtsPcBc7uCUpszNKKP3WbFFCl3AJvx6Kd7eASHIeYXhxjCQCV6UQDFAA4AA_gEP_X8qW1Mt8m1u_qEs1amp;t=633567193759204632
type=text/javascript/script
script
src=/ScriptResource.axd?d=wrIZKZL7_KbgLXTMiWfYzsQspz8GwtsPcBc7uCUpszNKKP3WbFFCl3AJvx6Kd7eAGO7iAY7Q9SHv9LWTfJoLMThoCq6lkmb-EEgQxgn3lN01amp;t=633567193759204632
type=text/javascript/script
script type=text/javascript
//![CDATA[
Sys.WebForms.PageRequestManager._initialize('ctl00$smMaster',
document.getElementById('aspnetForm'));
Sys.WebForms.PageRequestManager.getInstance()._updateControls([], [], [], 90);
//]]
/script
I’ve done some research and it looks like you can’t externalise this? And the
fact that a form tag gets wrapped around the entire html.
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Subject: Re: [WSG] .NET sites which are XHTML 1.0 strict
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Robin Gorry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.mucu4u.org.nz/Home_61.aspx
http://www.oneeast.co.nz/
http://www.colorfastsigns.co.nz/Home_34.aspx
None of those sites validate.
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RE: [WSG] IE7 CSS fix
Alex [ag...@inactu.co.uk] wrote: I don’t understand why anyone needs to hack anything. If you design to web standards and use a logical structure/layout with good use of floats or positioning, you can develop a page/layout that works in all browsers. It usually takes a bit of tweaking but it can be done. I thought this group was discussions of all things relating to standards and not support of people using non-standard ways i.e. hacking/conditional comments. I agree somewhat to the above comment however there’s bugs that exist in browsers (mainly talking about the evil IE6 here) that you simply have to fix when building websites in the commercial world and its completely out of your control no matter how standards compliant your HTML/CSS is e.g. the IE6 double margin float bug, if left unfixed then expect your clients to complain (if you’re still supporting IE6 that is which most of still are). But if you’re littering your style sheets with heaps and heaps of hacks then you need to improve on your HTML/CSS. -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Alex Sent: Friday, 3 April 2009 7:37 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] IE7 CSS fix I dont understand why anyone needs to hack anything. If you design to web standards and use a logical structure/layout with good use of floats or positioning, you can develop a page/layout that works in all browsers. It usually takes a bit of tweaking but it can be done. I thought this group was discussions of all things relating to standards and not support of people using non-standard ways i.e. hacking/conditional comments. It's far more reliable than CSS hacks, which may cause problems in future browsers. I don't agree with that assessment, providing one work a bit on selecting the right CSS hack and don't just use any hack because it seems to work. To my mind, that is the definition of a CSS hack - it is abuse of a bug that is believed to only apply to the required browser(s) There is almost never a direct correlation between the bug and the 'fix' that is being applied. Conditional comments aren't pretty, and generally I try to use CSS that does not require different versions for different browsers, but if nothing else, a conditional comment makes its purpose entirely clear - no chance of a future editor tidying up and breaking the hack. Mike *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] AOL mail problems?
I'm sorry but how is this related to Web Standards?
On Friday, June 15, 2012, Danny Vose wrote:
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What I meant was not for the customer to check his mail but for you to try
and login through his dashboard. I dont like AOL but it wouldnt be the
redirect to them thats causing it? I have been building sites for 10 years
plus now and as Ive said it happens often and like all simple snags its a
nightmare. Its important you use elimination though Bob. If you setup a
hotmail in 5 mins, change the redirect to that, and if the mail arrives its
AOL/Customer side. If it doesnt, its email client side which support will
have to sort. 99% of the time its on the domain/email client side so I
would do that Bob and then at least you clearly distance yourself from the
cause if it comes down to complaints about your work. Only a week or so ago
I built a co.uk for a young lady, tested the mail and she wasnt receiving
any? Did all the usual but no joy. I then asked her if I may have her
password into her hotmail box to check hotmail and she could change the
password after (I realise not everyone would allow this) Do you know what
the problem was? The redirect email she gave me was wrong! It only takes
someone to send you their email address and put a dash instead of an
underscore, or spell or omit a letter and thats the answer! I often (very
often) have customers sending emails that dont work. You or I may send a
proper hyperlink, but customers write them out and so many people get theri
own email address wrong. Its worth a check if your tearing your hair out.
Dan
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*From:* coder javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'co...@gwelanmor-internet.co.uk');
*To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org');
*Sent:* Friday, June 15, 2012 12:00 PM
*Subject:* Re: [WSG] AOL mail problems?
Thanks, Dan,for your comprehensive answer! I have tried everything you
mention and I can't see anything wrong - it's driving me potty! I've done
this several+ times over the years and not had a problem . I was beginning
to wonder about AOL not allowing domains not owned by them to be redirected
. . . or something.
I have not been able to check that mail sent to the domain address can
be accessed in the mail box even if not redirected, as the customer simply
doesn't understand what to do and wouldn't do even if I gave him full
complete instructions!
Thanks again.
Bob
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*To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
*Sent:* Friday, June 15, 2012 11:29 AM
*Subject:* Re: [WSG] AOL mail problems?
Hi Bob
I have had this problem several times over the years with customers
wishing to have their mail redirected. The first things to check are the
obvious ones (not a sop on your ability but computers make us brain dead at
times!) Does his account with the hosting company have any restrictions on
the amount of POP3 redirects as many do? Or two with the same address such
as admin@ and admin@-redirect? Most host providers use third party email
clients and for some unknown reason I have at times simply deleted all the
mail accounts on the domain, then refreshed and redone and they have
worked? Have you actually tested that mail sent to the domain address can
be accessed in the mail box even if not redirected? Finally, it’s extremely
easy to make a minor miss-spell when doing web work. A water test I always
use with these problems is to quickly setup a temp Hotmail or yahoo address
and redirect there and see if it arrives. If it does than the problem is
with his AOL mail account. If not, its domain side. If you have checked all
these Bob then you can’t do anymore and it’s up to the domain support to
sort out as you don’t have backend access.
Dan
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*Sent:* Friday, June 15, 2012 9:49 AM
*Subject:* [WSG] AOL mail problems?
Has anyone encountered problems with AOL mail such as this:
A friend of mine has a website for his business and he has a domain. I set
it for him so that his domain mail redirects to joeblo...@aol.com (he
doesn't want his mail published here, so I made that name up :-)
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