Re: [wsjt-devel] F/H with the DX calling on 2nd (odd)

2020-03-14 Thread Hasan al-Basri
When working one of the non-F/H multi-streamers, I would recommend calling
them >1000 Hz above their freq, to keep their area clean.

Basically there are two types of Multi-Streaming operations:

1. F/H which is the WSJT-X Standard
2. All others, including MSHV,  for which you *do not* use F/H mode. Just
call them as normal, but preferably > 1000 Hz above their frq.

I have worked many of them and the software works quite well. Most pick
their own non-standard X freq. A few don't. In both cases, I have had no
trouble working any of them in standard FT8 mode.

Operating tip: Always look for multiple streams from these dx or pseudo-dx
stations. If they are operating inside the normal X frequencies, they are
almost certain to be running MSHV or some other non-F/H compliant software.
Adjust your operating technique accordingly.

...or don't call them if their operation offends you.

73, N0AN
Hasan


On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 11:33 AM Rich Zwirko - K1HTV 
wrote:

> John,
>   The station may have been using MSHV or one of the other WSJT-X clones
> which allows the user to transmit multiple streams. Such stations are not
> constrained by having to transmit as a Fox on the even sequence, even
> though you may be seeing them transmitting multiple streams. Unlike WSJT-X
> which requires Hounds to call using tones above 1000 Hz, the cloned
> versions will respond to stations in the entire passband.
>
> So, when you come across these stations, turn off the Hound option and
> respond as you would when making contacts in the normal FT8 way.
>
> 73,
> Rich - K1HTV
> = = =
> NA6L wrote:
>
>  F/H with the DX calling on 2nd (odd)
>From: John V 
>Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 11:15:14 EDT
>
> Last night there was a DX station on 160m FT8 FH that I needed. The
> problem was that he was calling on 2nd sequence (odd) and answering on 1st
> (even) rather that 1st sequence. He seemed to be working stations but I
> never figured it out. Other that getting him to change sequence is there
> away to "fool" FT8 FH on my end? Was he using a program other than WSJT-X
> FT8 FH that would allow the Caller to use odd for innating calls?
>
> Thanks, John NA6L
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Re: [wsjt-devel] F/H with the DX calling on 2nd (odd)

2020-03-14 Thread Rich Zwirko - K1HTV
John,
  The station may have been using MSHV or one of the other WSJT-X clones
which allows the user to transmit multiple streams. Such stations are not
constrained by having to transmit as a Fox on the even sequence, even
though you may be seeing them transmitting multiple streams. Unlike WSJT-X
which requires Hounds to call using tones above 1000 Hz, the cloned
versions will respond to stations in the entire passband.

So, when you come across these stations, turn off the Hound option and
respond as you would when making contacts in the normal FT8 way.

73,
Rich - K1HTV
= = =
NA6L wrote:

 F/H with the DX calling on 2nd (odd)
   From: John V 
   Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 11:15:14 EDT

Last night there was a DX station on 160m FT8 FH that I needed. The problem
was that he was calling on 2nd sequence (odd) and answering on 1st (even)
rather that 1st sequence. He seemed to be working stations but I never
figured it out. Other that getting him to change sequence is there away to
"fool" FT8 FH on my end? Was he using a program other than WSJT-X FT8 FH
that would allow the Caller to use odd for innating calls?

Thanks, John NA6L
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