When working one of the non-F/H multi-streamers, I would recommend calling
them >1000 Hz above their freq, to keep their area clean.
Basically there are two types of Multi-Streaming operations:
1. F/H which is the WSJT-X Standard
2. All others, including MSHV, for which you *do not* use F/H mode. Just
call them as normal, but preferably > 1000 Hz above their frq.
I have worked many of them and the software works quite well. Most pick
their own non-standard X freq. A few don't. In both cases, I have had no
trouble working any of them in standard FT8 mode.
Operating tip: Always look for multiple streams from these dx or pseudo-dx
stations. If they are operating inside the normal X frequencies, they are
almost certain to be running MSHV or some other non-F/H compliant software.
Adjust your operating technique accordingly.
...or don't call them if their operation offends you.
73, N0AN
Hasan
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 11:33 AM Rich Zwirko - K1HTV
wrote:
> John,
> The station may have been using MSHV or one of the other WSJT-X clones
> which allows the user to transmit multiple streams. Such stations are not
> constrained by having to transmit as a Fox on the even sequence, even
> though you may be seeing them transmitting multiple streams. Unlike WSJT-X
> which requires Hounds to call using tones above 1000 Hz, the cloned
> versions will respond to stations in the entire passband.
>
> So, when you come across these stations, turn off the Hound option and
> respond as you would when making contacts in the normal FT8 way.
>
> 73,
> Rich - K1HTV
> = = =
> NA6L wrote:
>
> F/H with the DX calling on 2nd (odd)
>From: John V
>Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 11:15:14 EDT
>
> Last night there was a DX station on 160m FT8 FH that I needed. The
> problem was that he was calling on 2nd sequence (odd) and answering on 1st
> (even) rather that 1st sequence. He seemed to be working stations but I
> never figured it out. Other that getting him to change sequence is there
> away to "fool" FT8 FH on my end? Was he using a program other than WSJT-X
> FT8 FH that would allow the Caller to use odd for innating calls?
>
> Thanks, John NA6L
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