Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST
I don't see any sense in a vine going from the US, to Europe, then back to the US, then to the UK. Makes no sense at all I don't see the problem with doing a ping pong thing.But another but:if Chris has already sent it to me then I'll pass it to my Brit friends omitting US,then Chris or Jim is supposed to send the new set to Mr.Skull as a US starter.If Chris has not sent it yet to me, he can send it to his US friends,but then will Jim or Chris sent another set to me?In case if Euroland is going to wait till US will be all done first, what if the list grows with more US wanters?It all depends if Jim or Chris are going to clone another euro-vine.Or there's not a topic and let's do it as it sits.CheersBartUżytkownik abxer3p <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał:>This list from the 23rd is a little longer.>Joseph>>>Chris US << Bart << mr. skull << Richard-UK << Milhouse-US << white>rabbitt-US << Nick Ullmann-UK << Scott Burnett - US << Joseph-US>[EMAIL PROTECTED] << Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<>For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST
Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US << Bart << mr. skull << Richard-UK << Milhouse-US << white rabbitt-US << Nick Ullmann-UK << Scott Burnett - US << Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] << With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart << mr. skull << Richard-UK << Nick Ullmann-UK << Milhouse-US << white rabbitt-US << Scott Burnett - US << Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] << This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message ----- From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? Chris For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST
Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? ChrisBart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On dividing it onto two vines - I don't mind but I don't see the problem with doing a ping pong thing.But another but:if Chris has already sent it to me then I'll pass it to my Brit friends omitting US,then Chris or Jim is supposed to send the new set to Mr.Skull as a US starter.If Chris has not sent it yet to me, he can send it to his US friends,but then will Jim or Chris sent another set to me?In case if Euroland is going to wait till US will be all done first, what if the list grows with more US wanters?It all depends if Jim or Chris are going to clone another euro-vine.Or there's not a topic and let's do it as it sits.CheersBartU¿ytkownik abxer3p <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>napisa³:>This list from the 23rd is a little longer.>Joseph>>>Chris US << Bart << mr. skull << Richard-UK << Milhouse-US << white>rabbitt-US << Nick Ullmann-UK << Scott Burnett - US << Joseph-US>[EMAIL PROTECTED] << Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<>For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/"Music is The Best!" Frank Zappa Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST
On dividing it onto two vines - I don't mind but I don't see the problem with doing a ping pong thing. But another but: if Chris has already sent it to me then I'll pass it to my Brit friends omitting US, then Chris or Jim is supposed to send the new set to Mr.Skull as a US starter. If Chris has not sent it yet to me, he can send it to his US friends, but then will Jim or Chris sent another set to me? In case if Euroland is going to wait till US will be all done first, what if the list grows with more US wanters? It all depends if Jim or Chris are going to clone another euro-vine. Or there's not a topic and let's do it as it sits. Cheers Bart Użytkownik abxer3p <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał: >This list from the 23rd is a little longer. >Joseph > > >Chris US << Bart << mr. skull << Richard-UK << Milhouse-US << white >rabbitt-US << Nick Ullmann-UK << Scott Burnett - US << Joseph-US >[EMAIL PROTECTED] << Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] << > For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST
This list from the 23rd is a little longer. Joseph Chris US << Bart << mr. skull << Richard-UK << Milhouse-US << whiterabbitt-US << Nick Ullmann-UK << Scott Burnett - US << Joseph-US[EMAIL PROTECTED] << Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<Hope this works for me to get on this list.Thanks to all! - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST You wekum. MR. SKULL Thanks for the update! chris"mr. and mrs. skull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chris, The list is as follows (and may I say it suffers from a bad case of postal 'around our ass to get to our elbow' -itis) Jim L US << Chris US << Bart << mr. skull << Richard-UK << Milhouse-US << white rabbitt-US <<Nick Ullmann-UK << Scott Burnett - US < Thanks to Jim, I am passing this on to Bart in Poland I believe.I need your address Bart-ski.Reply to me offlist. Sorry folks I don't have the vine list to reply on as far as I know It does got to Bart and beyond. May I say that this is one of the cleanest recordings you can get IMHO,and the bonus show is equally as good. Many thanks to Jim for starting up this vine, and many thanks to all who take the time to tweeze their recordings and sharing their shows with all! ChrisJim L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just obtained both the early and late show from this questionable date via Dime. This might be an upgrade if only 20 minutes were available before? Here are the details. Seems like there was a mention of a second source being used to complete the early show. Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention Fillmore East-NYC Early Show 11/14/70 Source: SBD>10"MR>7"Reel>RevoxB77 playback>AlesisMasterlink>CD and SBD>10"MR>Revox B77 playback>Alesis Masterlink>CD - Wino Man>>>End 01. Jam to get Grace Slick onstage 02. Sanzini Brothers 03. Little House I Used To Live In 04. Penis Dimension 05. Mudshark 06. Holiday In Berlin (Including Inca Roads and Easy Meat Themes) 07. Cruising For Burgers 08. Sanzini Brothers Pyramid Trick 09. What Will This Morning Bring Me This Evening? 10. What Kind Of Girl Do You Think We Are 11. Bwana Dik 12. Latex Solar Beef 13. Daddy, Daddy, Daddy 14. Do You Like My New Car? 15. Happy Together 16. Wino Man (Dr. John Routine) 17. Concentration Moon 18. Sanzini Brothers School Of Broadcast 19. Jeff Simmons Bass Solo 20. Concentration Moon 21. Mom And Dad 22. Encore Jam// EAC (secure, offset corrected), Flac level 8, and sector boundaries verified with shntool by D.Winters - 03/07/05. Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention Fillmore East-NYC Late Show 11/14/70 Source: SBD>MR>Reel>Alesis Masterlink>CD 01. Kip Cohen Intro>Palladin and Hey Boy (theme song from T.V. show Have Gun Will Travel) (2:37) 02. Call Any Vegetable (10:12) 03. Sanzini Brothers (1:28) 04. Does This Kind of Life Look Interesting to You? (0:55) 05. Pound For a Brown (7:16) 06. Sleeping in a Jar (instrumental) (2:51) 07. El Porko the Magnificent (2:00) 08. Sharleena (5:30) 09. The Air (2:57) 10. Dog Breath (2:07) 11. Mother People (2:08) 12. You Didn't Try to Call Me (3:14) 13. King Kong (2:19) (Encore not recorded) EAC (secure, offset corrected), Flac level 8, and sector boundaries ve
Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST
You wekum. MR. SKULL Thanks for the update! chris"mr. and mrs. skull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chris, The list is as follows (and may I say it suffers from a bad case of postal 'around our ass to get to our elbow' -itis) Jim L US << Chris US << Bart << mr. skull << Richard-UK << Milhouse-US << white rabbitt-US <wrote: I just obtained both the early and late show from this questionable date via Dime. This might be an upgrade if only 20 minutes were available before? Here are the details. Seems like there was a mention of a second source being used to complete the early show. Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention Fillmore East-NYC Early Show 11/14/70 Source: SBD>10"MR>7"Reel>RevoxB77 playback>AlesisMasterlink>CD and SBD>10"MR>Revox B77 playback>Alesis Masterlink>CD - Wino Man>>>End 01. Jam to get Grace Slick onstage 02. Sanzini Brothers 03. Little House I Used To Live In 04. Penis Dimension 05. Mudshark 06. Holiday In Berlin (Including Inca Roads and Easy Meat Themes) 07. Cruising For Burgers 08. Sanzini Brothers Pyramid Trick 09. What Will This Morning Bring Me This Evening? 10. What Kind Of Girl Do You Think We Are 11. Bwana Dik 12. Latex Solar Beef 13. Daddy, Daddy, Daddy 14. Do You Like My New Car? 15. Happy Together 16. Wino Man (Dr. John Routine) 17. Concentration Moon 18. Sanzini Brothers School Of Broadcast 19. Jeff Simmons Bass Solo 20. Concentration Moon 21. Mom And Dad 22. Encore Jam// EAC (secure, offset corrected), Flac level 8, and sector boundaries verified with shntool by D.Winters - 03/07/05. Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention Fillmore East-NYC Late Show 11/14/70 Source: SBD>MR>Reel>Alesis Masterlink>CD 01. Kip Cohen Intro>Palladin and Hey Boy (theme song from T.V. show Have Gun Will Travel) (2:37) 02. Call Any Vegetable (10:12) 03. Sanzini Brothers (1:28) 04. Does This Kind of Life Look Interesting to You? (0:55) 05. Pound For a Brown (7:16) 06. Sleeping in a Jar (instrumental) (2:51) 07. El Porko the Magnificent (2:00) 08. Sharleena (5:30) 09. The Air (2:57) 10. Dog Breath (2:07) 11. Mother People (2:08) 12. You Didn't Try to Call Me (3:14) 13. King Kong (2:19) (Encore not recorded) EAC (secure, offset corrected), Flac level 8, and sector boundaries verified with shntool by D.Winters - 03/07/05. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SOFASent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:35 AMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] JEFF SIMMONS was Fillmore East The date is debatable. Joni Mitchell is said to have been there on the 13th, so this is most likely the 14... and neither recording is very long, but great quality - or so I understand. SOFA - Original Message - From: Bart To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:43 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] JEFF SIMMONS was Fillmore East
Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST
Thanks for the update! chris"mr. and mrs. skull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chris, The list is as follows (and may I say it suffers from a bad case of postal 'around our ass to get to our elbow' -itis) Jim L US << Chris US << Bart << mr. skull << Richard-UK << Milhouse-US << white rabbitt-US <wrote: I just obtained both the early and late show from this questionable date via Dime. This might be an upgrade if only 20 minutes were available before? Here are the details. Seems like there was a mention of a second source being used to complete the early show. Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention Fillmore East-NYC Early Show 11/14/70 Source: SBD>10"MR>7"Reel>RevoxB77 playback>AlesisMasterlink>CD and SBD>10"MR>Revox B77 playback>Alesis Masterlink>CD - Wino Man>>>End 01. Jam to get Grace Slick onstage 02. Sanzini Brothers 03. Little House I Used To Live In 04. Penis Dimension 05. Mudshark 06. Holiday In Berlin (Including Inca Roads and Easy Meat Themes) 07. Cruising For Burgers 08. Sanzini Brothers Pyramid Trick 09. What Will This Morning Bring Me This Evening? 10. What Kind Of Girl Do You Think We Are 11. Bwana Dik 12. Latex Solar Beef 13. Daddy, Daddy, Daddy 14. Do You Like My New Car? 15. Happy Together 16. Wino Man (Dr. John Routine) 17. Concentration Moon 18. Sanzini Brothers School Of Broadcast 19. Jeff Simmons Bass Solo 20. Concentration Moon 21. Mom And Dad 22. Encore Jam// EAC (secure, offset corrected), Flac level 8, and sector boundaries verified with shntool by D.Winters - 03/07/05. Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention Fillmore East-NYC Late Show 11/14/70 Source: SBD>MR>Reel>Alesis Masterlink>CD 01. Kip Cohen Intro>Palladin and Hey Boy (theme song from T.V. show Have Gun Will Travel) (2:37) 02. Call Any Vegetable (10:12) 03. Sanzini Brothers (1:28) 04. Does This Kind of Life Look Interesting to You? (0:55) 05. Pound For a Brown (7:16) 06. Sleeping in a Jar (instrumental) (2:51) 07. El Porko the Magnificent (2:00) 08. Sharleena (5:30) 09. The Air (2:57) 10. Dog Breath (2:07) 11. Mother People (2:08) 12. You Didn't Try to Call Me (3:14) 13. King Kong (2:19) (Encore not recorded) EAC (secure, offset corrected), Flac level 8, and sector boundaries verified with shntool by D.Winters - 03/07/05. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SOFASent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:35 AMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] JEFF SIMMONS was Fillmore East The date is debatable. Joni Mitchell is said to have been there on the 13th, so this is most likely the 14... and neither recording is very long, but great quality - or so I understand. SOFA - Original Message - From: Bart To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:43 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] JEFF SIMMONS was Fillmore East Howdy,First thing - isn't it 13 Nov 1970 show? (not 14th ???)Second thing - I'm looking for this as well as I have already late show from 13th but it's only +20 mins long...but also I think I'm having the early show of that day...So yes, I'm looking forward to this forthcoming vine - thanks Sofa and Cris!CheersBartU¿ytkownik SOFA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisa³:>I\'ve got this one coming to me, along with the Late show counterpart. I\'ll be happy to offer them up once they\'ve arrived...>SOFA> - Original Message - > From: Cris Haldenby > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:35 AM> Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: JEFF SIMMONS + ZAPPED VINE>>> I\'ve got the following show from 1970, not sure if it\'s done the rounds or not.>>> Cris>>> -->>> Fillmore East-NYC Late Show> 11/14/70 >>> 01. Kip Cohen Intro>Palladin and Hey Boy (theme song from T.V. show Have Gun Will Travel) (2:37)> 02. Call Any Vegetable (10:12)> 03. Sanzini Brothers (1:28)> 04. Does This Kind of Life Look Interesting to You? (0:55)> 05. Pound For a Brown (7:16)> 06. Sleeping in a Jar (instrumental) (2:51)> 07. El Porko the Magnificent (2:00)> 08. Sharleena (5:30)> 09. The Air (2:57)> 10. Dog Breath (2:07)> 11. Mother People (2:08)> 12. You Didn\'t Try to Call Me (3:14)> 13. King Kong (2:19)>>> -->>>For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group
Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST
Exactly. It originated with Jim, and it seems it would make more sense to make the rounds in the US, then head overseas. Mr. Skull With a structure like that the discs will get lost and take far longer getting round all the participants.GlenFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST
I've not signed up for this vine and it's only my opinion but it would make far more sense for the discs to go round the US first and then over to Europe or vice versa...or indeed one set for the States and one for Europe. With a structure like that the discs will get lost and take far longer getting round all the participants. Glen For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST
Chris, The list is as follows (and may I say it suffers from a bad case of postal 'around our ass to get to our elbow' -itis) Jim L US << Chris US << Bart << mr. skull << Richard-UK << Milhouse-US << white rabbitt-US <wrote: I just obtained both the early and late show from this questionable date via Dime. This might be an upgrade if only 20 minutes were available before? Here are the details. Seems like there was a mention of a second source being used to complete the early show. Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention Fillmore East-NYC Early Show 11/14/70 Source: SBD>10"MR>7"Reel>RevoxB77 playback>AlesisMasterlink>CD and SBD>10"MR>Revox B77 playback>Alesis Masterlink>CD - Wino Man>>>End 01. Jam to get Grace Slick onstage 02. Sanzini Brothers 03. Little House I Used To Live In 04. Penis Dimension 05. Mudshark 06. Holiday In Berlin (Including Inca Roads and Easy Meat Themes) 07. Cruising For Burgers 08. Sanzini Brothers Pyramid Trick 09. What Will This Morning Bring Me This Evening? 10. What Kind Of Girl Do You Think We Are 11. Bwana Dik 12. Latex Solar Beef 13. Daddy, Daddy, Daddy 14. Do You Like My New Car? 15. Happy Together 16. Wino Man (Dr. John Routine) 17. Concentration Moon 18. Sanzini Brothers School Of Broadcast 19. Jeff Simmons Bass Solo 20. Concentration Moon 21. Mom And Dad 22. Encore Jam// EAC (secure, offset corrected), Flac level 8, and sector boundaries verified with shntool by D.Winters - 03/07/05. Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention Fillmore East-NYC Late Show 11/14/70 Source: SBD>MR>Reel>Alesis Masterlink>CD 01. Kip Cohen Intro>Palladin and Hey Boy (theme song from T.V. show Have Gun Will Travel) (2:37) 02. Call Any Vegetable (10:12) 03. Sanzini Brothers (1:28) 04. Does This Kind of Life Look Interesting to You? (0:55) 05. Pound For a Brown (7:16) 06. Sleeping in a Jar (instrumental) (2:51) 07. El Porko the Magnificent (2:00) 08. Sharleena (5:30) 09. The Air (2:57) 10. Dog Breath (2:07) 11. Mother People (2:08) 12. You Didn't Try to Call Me (3:14) 13. King Kong (2:19) (Encore not recorded) EAC (secure, offset corrected), Flac level 8, and sector boundaries verified with shntool by D.Winters - 03/07/05. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SOFASent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:35 AMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] JEFF SIMMONS was Fillmore East The date is debatable. Joni Mitchell is said to have been there on the 13th, so this is most likely the 14... and neither recording is very long, but great quality - or so I understand. SOFA - Original Message - From: Bart To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:43 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] JEFF SIMMONS was Fillmore East Howdy,First thing - isn't it 13 Nov 1970 show? (not 14th ???)Second thing - I'm looking for this as well as I have already late show from 13th but it's only +20 mins long...but also I think I'm having the early show of that day...So yes, I'm looking forward to this forthcoming vine - thanks Sofa and Cris!CheersBartU¿ytkownik SOFA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisa³:>I\'ve got this one coming to me, along with the Late show counterpart. I\'ll be happy to offer them up once they\'ve arrived...>SOFA> - Original Message - > From: Cris Haldenby > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:35 AM> Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: JEFF SIMMONS + ZAPPED VINE>>> I\'ve got the following show from 1970, not sure if it\'s done the rounds or not.>>> Cri