Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: zc.resourcelibrary/trunk/ A basic makefile, the ZPL and copyright headers.
Am Donnerstag, 15. Juni 2006 04:23 schrieb Benji York: Brian Sutherland wrote: Log message for revision 68639: A basic makefile, the ZPL and copyright headers. Is there consensus about adding makefiles like this (diff below)? I personally don't like the idea, but I wanted to bring it up to the list. I don't like them for a couple of reasons. First, they're make files; that's an automatic strike :). Second, they're not useful cross-platform; if what they're doing is important, then they should be Python scripts, if not, then they shouldn't exist. Third, /I/ don't value what they're doing for me. Other opinions? I can't judge the necessity of a make system or if a simple python script would suffice. If make files are really necessary I would also prefer a python based make system. IIRC KDE switches to such a system for version 4. [1] Regards, Florian [1] http://dot.kde.org/1126452494/ ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: zc.resourcelibrary/trunk/ A basic makefile, the ZPL and copyright headers.
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 10:23:30PM -0400, Benji York wrote: Brian Sutherland wrote: Log message for revision 68639: A basic makefile, the ZPL and copyright headers. Is there consensus about adding makefiles like this (diff below)? I personally don't like the idea, but I wanted to bring it up to the list. I don't like them for a couple of reasons. First, they're make files; that's an automatic strike :). Second, they're not useful cross-platform; if what they're doing is important, then they should be Python scripts, if not, then they shouldn't exist. Third, /I/ don't value what they're doing for me. Other opinions? Firstly, being the one that added these, i'll take them out/replace them according to the consensus. But here's my objective: The reason I put them there in the first place is to nudge committers to create both the tarball and egg (for perhaps more than one python version) when creating a new release. The makefiles are not required and are trivially replacable by whatever type of script you want. Why do I need a tarball and not just an egg? Well, Debian (and I presume other) packaging systems always build from tarballs. There are also automated tools to check for the presence of new upstream tarballs. So if I am packaging zc.table for example and a committer makes a new egg-only release I have to take a number of extra steps: * Actually notice that there is a new release. * Download the tag, make a tarball, and upload it. Where to from here? I guess I could replace them with a make-a-release.py script which just invokes the setup.py script for the tarball and a list of python versions. Or we could enforce this within the setup.py (Too invasive in my opinion). -- Brian Sutherland Metropolis - it's the first movie with a robot. And she's a woman. And she's EVIL!! ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: zc.resourcelibrary/trunk/ A basic makefile, the ZPL and copyright headers.
Brian Sutherland wrote: The reason I put them there in the first place is to nudge committers to create both the tarball and egg (for perhaps more than one python version) when creating a new release. I would prefer that be addressed outside of the source repository. Perhaps Stephan's Zope Community site would be a good place to accomplish this. The makefiles are not required and are trivially replacable by whatever type of script you want. I wouldn't want a bunch of identical (or near-identical) scripts, make or otherwise, lying around. Firstly, being the one that added these, i'll take them out/replace them according to the consensus. There seems to be a consensus (although not an overpowering one) that they be removed. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: zc.resourcelibrary/trunk/ A basic makefile, the ZPL and copyright headers.
On 6/15/06, Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There seems to be a consensus (although not an overpowering one) that they be removed. I'll add in my +1 for removal as well, it that helps. :-) -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr.fdrake at gmail.com Every sin is the result of a collaboration. --Lucius Annaeus Seneca ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: zc.resourcelibrary/trunk/ A basic makefile, the ZPL and copyright headers.
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 01:32:47PM -0400, Benji York wrote: Brian Sutherland wrote: The reason I put them there in the first place is to nudge committers to create both the tarball and egg (for perhaps more than one python version) when creating a new release. I would prefer that be addressed outside of the source repository. Perhaps Stephan's Zope Community site would be a good place to accomplish this. I didn't know something like that existed. I'll have a look at it when I next I have time. The makefiles are not required and are trivially replacable by whatever type of script you want. I wouldn't want a bunch of identical (or near-identical) scripts, make or otherwise, lying around. Firstly, being the one that added these, i'll take them out/replace them according to the consensus. There seems to be a consensus (although not an overpowering one) that they be removed. Enough for me. I removed all of them. -- Brian Sutherland Metropolis - it's the first movie with a robot. And she's a woman. And she's EVIL!! ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
