PR release for mp2.0.0?

2004-12-13 Thread Stas Bekman
For those who haven't noticed mp2-RC1 was released and we should get 2.0 really soon now (my guess another 3-4 weeks, but could happen earlier too). So it's time to start thinking about preparing a PR that was discussed here before. Any takers to lead this effort? -- ___

Re: PR release for mp2.0.0?

2004-12-13 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 11:05 -0500, Stas Bekman wrote: > For those who haven't noticed mp2-RC1 was released and we should get 2.0 > really soon now (my guess another 3-4 weeks, but could happen earlier > too). So it's time to start thinking about preparing a PR that was > discussed here before. A

re: posting news on perl.apache.org

2004-12-13 Thread Stas Bekman
[moving this into a different thread. let's keep the PR thread focused just on that: publishing PR] > * news flash on frontpage on perl.apache.org > > one thing (and a thing which constantly annoys me from a PR point of > view) is the fact that the mod_perl website's frontpage doesn't have a > ne

Re: PR release for mp2.0.0?

2004-12-13 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 16:34 -0500, Stas Bekman wrote: > A little clarification: by posting this I've meant to first of all figure > out how we post a PR (via ASF/TPF/TicketMaster/etc), not what we post > inside a PR. Acronym overload. I thought you meant "public relations", not "press release."

re: posting news on perl.apache.org

2004-12-13 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 16:29 -0500, Stas Bekman wrote: > No news is better than stale news. So I'm really -0 on starting any news > sections. We tried this before, it never worked. Really? I don't remember that. On the old site? Updates were kind of difficult back then. > The only way I can se

Re: PR release for mp2.0.0?

2004-12-13 Thread Stas Bekman
Jayce^ wrote: On Monday 13 December 2004 09:05 am, Stas Bekman wrote: For those who haven't noticed mp2-RC1 was released and we should get 2.0 really soon now (my guess another 3-4 weeks, but could happen earlier too). So it's time to start thinking about preparing a PR that was discussed here befo

Re: misc advocacy ideas

2004-12-13 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 16:35 -0500, Stas Bekman wrote: > > * faq > > > > this is such a web thing for both developers and project managers and > > directors. couldn't we write a perl program that scans the total mail on > > the mailing list extract the 50 most used words. seriously, it would be

misc advocacy ideas

2004-12-13 Thread Stas Bekman
[another split, let's keep PR-how thread focused on one thing] allan juul wrote: > * bullet list of perhaps 5 major reasons to upgrade > > can someone tell joe public in very few sentences what i gain by > upgrading to mod_perl 2? > > * faq > > this is such a web thing for both developers and proje

Re: misc advocacy ideas

2004-12-13 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 15:44 -0700, Jayce^ wrote: > If we can bring out the points here in a discussion, I'd be willing to > compile/format them nicely. How about just collecting the slides that Stas, Phillipe, and Geoff have used when introducing mp2 at conferences, and trying to summarize the ju

Re: misc advocacy ideas

2004-12-13 Thread Stas Bekman
Jayce^ wrote: On Monday 13 December 2004 03:30 pm, Stas Bekman wrote: I guess there is more than 5, but it's a good idea. Any takers? If we can bring out the points here in a discussion, I'd be willing to compile/format them nicely. If we could just all chip in the things we each see as most im

Re: misc advocacy ideas

2004-12-13 Thread Jayce^
On Monday 13 December 2004 03:59 pm, Stas Bekman wrote: > Jayce^++, should we better do it on the users list, so others can benefit > from the discussion? so we kill two birds in one shot. of course it may > generate some extra noise. So it's up to you Jayce^ to decide whether you > want to sum mor

Re: misc advocacy ideas

2004-12-13 Thread Jayce^
On Monday 13 December 2004 03:30 pm, Stas Bekman wrote: > I guess there is more than 5, but it's a good idea. Any takers? If we can bring out the points here in a discussion, I'd be willing to compile/format them nicely. If we could just all chip in the things we each see as most important, and

Re: misc advocacy ideas

2004-12-13 Thread Jayce^
On Monday 13 December 2004 04:07 pm, Stas Bekman wrote: > But at the same time, many users on the modperl list wonder why should > they move to mp2. That's why I thought to run it there. It'll also give > you a chance to here why it's not a good idea to move to mp2, which is > just as important for

Re: misc advocacy ideas

2004-12-13 Thread allan juul
Perrin Harkins wrote: On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 16:35 -0500, Stas Bekman wrote: > * faq > > this is such a web thing for both developers and project managers and > directors. couldn't we write a perl program that scans the total mail on > the mailing list extract the 50 most used words. seriously, it w

Re: misc advocacy ideas

2004-12-13 Thread allan juul
Stas Bekman wrote: > Jayce^ wrote: > >> On Monday 13 December 2004 03:59 pm, Stas Bekman wrote: >> >>> Jayce^++, should we better do it on the users list, so others can >>> benefit >>> from the discussion? so we kill two birds in one shot. of course it may >>> generate some extra noise. So it's up

Re: posting news on perl.apache.org

2004-12-13 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 17:02 -0500, Stas Bekman wrote: > But RSS feed to what? Or do you mean RSS feed of perl.apache.org to other > sites? That is what I meant. > I was thinking to have something like modperl.use.perl.org or > elsewhere where there will be news posted and just have perl.apache.

Re: misc advocacy ideas

2004-12-13 Thread Stas Bekman
allan juul wrote: Perrin Harkins wrote: On Tue, 2004-12-14 at 00:08 +0100, allan juul wrote: here's one that spring to mind 1) when i start my browser and go to [URL] the very first time i get one result but subsequent refreshes output different results. why is that ? http://perl.apache.org/docs

Re: misc advocacy ideas

2004-12-13 Thread Stas Bekman
allan juul wrote: Perrin Harkins wrote: On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 16:35 -0500, Stas Bekman wrote: > * faq > > this is such a web thing for both developers and project managers and > directors. couldn't we write a perl program that scans the total mail on > the mailing list extract the 50 most used wor

Re: posting news on perl.apache.org

2004-12-13 Thread Adam Prime
Didn't take23.org attempt to do this a couple of years ago? What ever happened to that? adam - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PR release for mp2.0.0?

2004-12-13 Thread allan juul
Stas Bekman wrote: For those who haven't noticed mp2-RC1 was released and we should get 2.0 really soon now (my guess another 3-4 weeks, but could happen earlier too). So it's time to start thinking about preparing a PR that was discussed here before. Any takers to lead this effort? hi not tak

Re: PR release for mp2.0.0?

2004-12-13 Thread Stas Bekman
Stas Bekman wrote: For those who haven't noticed mp2-RC1 was released and we should get 2.0 really soon now (my guess another 3-4 weeks, but could happen earlier too). So it's time to start thinking about preparing a PR that was discussed here before. Any takers to lead this effort? A little cla

Re: posting news on perl.apache.org

2004-12-13 Thread Stas Bekman
Perrin Harkins wrote: On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 16:29 -0500, Stas Bekman wrote: No news is better than stale news. So I'm really -0 on starting any news sections. We tried this before, it never worked. Really? I don't remember that. On the old site? Updates were kind of difficult back then. Correc

Re: PR release for mp2.0.0?

2004-12-13 Thread Jayce^
On Monday 13 December 2004 09:05 am, Stas Bekman wrote: > For those who haven't noticed mp2-RC1 was released and we should get 2.0 > really soon now (my guess another 3-4 weeks, but could happen earlier > too). So it's time to start thinking about preparing a PR that was > discussed here before. An

Re: PR release for mp2.0.0?

2004-12-13 Thread Stas Bekman
Perrin Harkins wrote: On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 16:34 -0500, Stas Bekman wrote: A little clarification: by posting this I've meant to first of all figure out how we post a PR (via ASF/TPF/TicketMaster/etc), not what we post inside a PR. Acronym overload. I thought you meant "public relations", not

Re: misc advocacy ideas

2004-12-13 Thread Stas Bekman
Stas Bekman wrote: [another split, let's keep PR-how thread focused on one thing] answering only to some ideas. Hoping that others will followup on the rest (fingers ache here, need to write some perl code and give my fingers a rest). allan juul wrote: > * bullet list of perhaps 5 major reasons

Re: misc advocacy ideas

2004-12-13 Thread Stas Bekman
Jayce^ wrote: On Monday 13 December 2004 03:59 pm, Stas Bekman wrote: Jayce^++, should we better do it on the users list, so others can benefit from the discussion? so we kill two birds in one shot. of course it may generate some extra noise. So it's up to you Jayce^ to decide whether you want to s

Re: misc advocacy ideas

2004-12-13 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Tue, 2004-12-14 at 00:08 +0100, allan juul wrote: > here's one that spring to mind > > 1) when i start my browser and go to [URL] the very first time i get one > result but subsequent refreshes output different results. why is that ? http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/porting.html#Sometime

Re: misc advocacy ideas

2004-12-13 Thread Stas Bekman
Perrin Harkins wrote: On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 15:44 -0700, Jayce^ wrote: If we can bring out the points here in a discussion, I'd be willing to compile/format them nicely. How about just collecting the slides that Stas, Phillipe, and Geoff have used when introducing mp2 at conferences, and trying t

Re: misc advocacy ideas

2004-12-13 Thread allan juul
Perrin Harkins wrote: On Tue, 2004-12-14 at 00:08 +0100, allan juul wrote: here's one that spring to mind 1) when i start my browser and go to [URL] the very first time i get one result but subsequent refreshes output different results. why is that ? http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/porting.

Re: misc advocacy ideas

2004-12-13 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Stas" == Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stas> [another split, let's keep PR-how thread focused on one thing] Of course, there can be no advocacy *for* MP2 until this Apache::Resource thing is resolved. And I mean in a way that everyone else resolves it in the CPAN. You don't get

FAQ (WAS: misc advocacy ideas)

2004-12-13 Thread allan juul
Quoting Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > what i had in mind was a very very quick faq of perhaps 10 questions, > > perhaps only 5 or 2. the important thing is that it is concise and only > > updated when really needed (ie when people post the same question over > > and over again - which bt