Re: Religious freedom

2006-08-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:40 AM Thursday 8/31/2006, Doug Pensinger wrote: Dave Land wrote: Anyone reasonable can see that instance of a subset is not the whole. JDG is an atheist. JDG is a devout Catholic. -- Doug That was obviously one of those posts which sneaked in from the Earth-3 Brin-L list . . . -

Re: Religious freedom

2006-08-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie wrote: What's an example of a non-religious cult? Fanatical Macophiles? 8^) -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Religious freedom

2006-08-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dave Land wrote: Anyone reasonable can see that instance of a subset is not the whole. JDG is an atheist. JDG is a devout Catholic. -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Religious freedom

2006-08-30 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 30, 2006, at 9:07 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 31/08/2006, at 1:35 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: Isn't a cult a subset of "religion"? Sure Charlie, just as "poisons" are a subset of "chemicals. Precisely - they're all toxic at a high enough dose... ;-) I see your winking smiley, but y

RE: Religious freedom

2006-08-30 Thread Ritu
Charlie asked: > > Yep. But it is also a subset of 'society' and 'politics', and > > non-religious cults do exist. > > What's an example of a non-religious cult? Personality cults in politics, then there is the Ayn rand cult, a non-religious one if there ever was one. NATLFED has been put on m

Re: Religious freedom

2006-08-30 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 30, 2006, at 8:09 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 31/08/2006, at 12:56 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 31 Aug 2006 at 2:36, William T Goodall wrote: What's your point? The guy was [allegedly] responsible for forcing girls as young as 12-y.o. to "marry" older men, giving the girls no choice i

Re: Religious freedom

2006-08-30 Thread Charlie Bell
On 31/08/2006, at 1:35 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: Isn't a cult a subset of "religion"? Sure Charlie, just as "poisons" are a subset of "chemicals. Precisely - they're all toxic at a high enough dose... ;-) I don't think the differences are as huge as you do - yes, there are the indicato

Re: Religious freedom

2006-08-30 Thread Charlie Bell
On 31/08/2006, at 1:55 PM, Ritu wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: What is religious freedom if it isn't that? That you're, again, deliverately using a cult - NOT a religion Isn't a cult a subset of "religion"? Yep. But it is also a subset of 'society' and 'politics', and non-religious cults d

RE: Religious freedom

2006-08-30 Thread Ritu
Charlie Bell wrote: > >> What is religious freedom if it isn't that? > > > > That you're, again, deliverately using a cult - NOT a religion > > Isn't a cult a subset of "religion"? Yep. But it is also a subset of 'society' and 'politics', and non-religious cults do exist. Ritu __

Re: Religious freedom

2006-08-30 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 31 Aug 2006 at 13:16, Charlie Bell wrote: > > On 31/08/2006, at 12:56 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: > > > On 31 Aug 2006 at 2:36, William T Goodall wrote: > > > >>> What's your point? The guy was [allegedly] responsible for forcing > >>> girls as young as 12-y.o. to "marry" older men, giving the

Re: Religious freedom

2006-08-30 Thread Charlie Bell
On 31/08/2006, at 12:56 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 31 Aug 2006 at 2:36, William T Goodall wrote: What's your point? The guy was [allegedly] responsible for forcing girls as young as 12-y.o. to "marry" older men, giving the girls no choice in the matter. Are you suggesting that under "reli

Re: Religious freedom

2006-08-30 Thread Charlie Bell
On 31/08/2006, at 12:56 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 31 Aug 2006 at 2:36, William T Goodall wrote: What's your point? The guy was [allegedly] responsible for forcing girls as young as 12-y.o. to "marry" older men, giving the girls no choice in the matter. Are you suggesting that under "reli

Re: Religious freedom

2006-08-30 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 31 Aug 2006 at 2:36, William T Goodall wrote: > > What's your point? The guy was [allegedly] responsible for forcing > > girls as young as 12-y.o. to "marry" older men, giving the girls no > > choice in the matter. Are you suggesting that under "religious > > freedom" he should have been

RE: "Duh!" story #463 . . .

2006-08-30 Thread PAT MATHEWS
Hey! The harder they work their people, the fewer pensions they have to pay out. Let's hope they don't offer life insurance, or the massive savings will be offsert and the CEOs won't get as many millions in their golden parachutes as they could. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ From:

Re: Religious freedom

2006-08-30 Thread William T Goodall
On 31 Aug 2006, at 2:18AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 07:56 PM Wednesday 8/30/2006, William T Goodall wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5297990.stm "Uncertain future for US polygamy sect The arrest of US religious leader Warren Jeffs over alleged sex offences has brought his r

Metallic Water

2006-08-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
From AIP Physics News Update Number 790 #3, August 30, 2006 by Phil Schewe and Ben Stein Metallic Water, an electrically conducting form of water, might exist under just the right conditions of temperature and pressures on gas giant planets like Jupiter or ice giants like Neptune. Full articl

Re: Religious freedom

2006-08-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:56 PM Wednesday 8/30/2006, William T Goodall wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5297990.stm "Uncertain future for US polygamy sect The arrest of US religious leader Warren Jeffs over alleged sex offences has brought his reclusive polygamous sect back into the public eye. [sn

Religious freedom

2006-08-30 Thread William T Goodall
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5297990.stm "Uncertain future for US polygamy sect The arrest of US religious leader Warren Jeffs over alleged sex offences has brought his reclusive polygamous sect back into the public eye. The 50-year-old head of the Fundamentalist Church of the

"Duh!" story #463 . . .

2006-08-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
From CNN.com: Long working hours linked to high blood pressure NEW YORK (Reuters Health) -- Workers who clocked more than 51 hours at the office each week were 29 percent more likely to have high blood pressure than those who worked 39 hours or less, a new study from California has found.

Fwd: Top5 Work - 8/30/06

2006-08-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
Any of these sound familiar? == Ain't no turning back now. TOPFIVE.COM'S LITTLE FIVERS -- WORK http://www.littlefivers.com/work

Re: Weekly Chat Reminder

2006-08-30 Thread William T Goodall
On 30 Aug 2006, at 6:58PM, William T Goodall wrote: "This message was sent automatically using launchd. But even if WTG is away on holiday, at least it shows the server is still up." Now running on the new server. Weekly reminder now sent by launchd instead of cron. I had to recompile th

Weekly Chat Reminder

2006-08-30 Thread William T Goodall
As Steve said, "The Brin-L weekly chat has been a list tradition for over six years. Way back on 27 May, 1998, Marco Maisenhelder first set up a chatroom for the list, and on the next day, he established a weekly chat time. We've been through several servers, chat technologies, and even casts of