as an aside: are there screenshots of navit's ui in qtmoko available
somewhere?
besides a lot of other shortcomings, i found the internal ui always very
much lacking in usability and the gtk one was too cumbersome (qml seems to
be dead).
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i honestly don't get why this flares up again.
the topic has been beaten to death, everybody knows where he stands on the
question -- and yet whenever that bird crows again, there are always some
to crow back.
why can't you just let him alone? he'll get bored soon enough if nobody
plays.
O
boot from an sdcard, mount the internal partition[1], tar from it (make
sure to sue the right params to store everything, or maybe you should just
dd it to get an image you can play with at will).
[1] not sure anymore what partition that is, but inside your running system
mount
should tell yo
I would say, maemo fremantle is great.
if we could manage to make it free, i. e. rewrite it's non-free parts,
and make it available on more platforms, like nexus, it'll be great.
having free hardware in n900 case it good too.
but first of all let's get working free, indeed free maemo. not the
prop
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 22:25:06 +0200, joerg Reisenweber
wrote:
On Mon 26 August 2013 21:47:08 arne anka wrote:
the most striking part of jörg's n900 idea seems not to attract any
comments -- he said, he'd know at least one company who would be
interested.
Oh? where did I say th
the most striking part of jörg's n900 idea seems not to attract any
comments -- he said, he'd know at least one company who would be
interested.
being interested does not necessarily translate into will buy, but at
least it would be worth to contemplate ...
_
I don't think money is the only problem.
the missing money is just the indicator for this project's failure to
create sufficient public interest or even awareness.
while the GTA01/2 was a nice idea, it was already slightly outdated when
it appeared -- and since then nothing has changed, the
maybe just the connector got a bit loose?
with help of the disassembling guide you should be able to check.
I dont know if you've seen the image i sent. That screen could happen
from a connector problem? I mean in the screen the tear is ,as i see it,
apparent. If that's possible i'd be happy to
maybe just the connector got a bit loose?
with help of the disassembling guide you should be able to check.
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Is there a way to see what package version libpcslite1 had by browsing
the
qtmoko v55 tar.gz?
find /var/lib/dpkg/status in the tar ball. it's the database over all
installed packages, but a plain text file.
in there look for
Package: libpcslite1
a few lines below there's one starting with "
many thank!
unfortunately the 1.0-3 now all of a sudden asks for
wpasupplicant : Depends: libpcsclite1 (>= 1.8.6) but 1.8.4-1 is installed
which is nowhere available ... I guess I will have to go for a complete
reinstall :-(
nope, you most likely don't.
the idea of
http://snapshot.debian.org
http://snapshot.debian.org/package/wpa/1.0-3/#wpasupplicant_1.0-3
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would it be asking to much, to cut down quotes to the minimum?
simply replying (and posting a single line at the _bottom_ -- assume the
recipient reads it on the om, how much are they supposed to scroll???) is
bad style.
ususally i don't read anything that consist of nothing but quotes for a
for i in {1..100} ; do wget http://url/$i.ics ; done
The ics files on the server are in format 1.ics, 2.ics, 8.ics,
27.ics43.ics... and so on. It's egroupware groupdav folder for
calendar.
urodelo
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 17:25:12 +0100, arne anka
wrote:
using wget with
-r -l
the german magazine c't run an article in a recent issue about ubuntu
phone/sailfish/tizen and identified as common denominator that all three
cater to providers rather than end users (though those are the ones paying
...) -- ie whatever _potential_ freedom exists with those platforms will
using wget with
-r -l 1
you should be able to download the whole folder without going deeper than
that.
if you have an idea of the format of the files (ie
eventname_-mm-dd.ics or such) you could try to create possible
combinations with printf and append them to the base url in a loop.
An alternative would be to modify the touch screen
kernel driver to send calibrated (and debounced, dejittered)
events to the kernel. But the kernel can't read/write calibration
data and adding /sys nodes to to that needs some daemon to
write it. I.e. also needs some "configuration".
not quite s
Also, for GTA04 I think the installed xorg.conf has the wrong
Why is there an installed xorg.conf at all? We are well past the days
where Xorg needs a configuration file, it gained automatic
configuration a long time ago.
not sure about X in QTMoko, but for normal X, auto conf does not work.
> /root/qte/qtmoko/src/plugins/content/ogg/oggcontentplugin.cpp:24:31:
warning: vorbis/vorbisfile.h: No such file or directory
> /root/qte/qtmoko/src/plugins/content/ogg/oggcontentplugin.cpp: In
member function 'virtual bool OggContentPlugin::installContent(const
QString&, QContent*)':
> /
What would be great is if we have a TV out and an HDMI out from the phone
with two USB sockets so that it can also be used as a generic computer.
from the description i've got the impression that the gta04 supports
tv-out via the audio connector.
_
dpkg: error processing ./navit-current_armv4t.opk (--install):
package architecture (armv4t) does not match system (armel)
Errors were encountered while processing:
./navit-current_armv4t.opk
try with --force-archictecture
I will now try to see if installing the tar.gz version is straight
f
try to contact dr nick directly -- if i undertstood correctly, he should
have a bunch of those pcbs w/o something sensible to do with them.
Is there anybody have broken screen GTA02 for sale?
or maybe intact PCB after upgrade to GTA04?
I'll be appreciate for reasonable price or maybe somebody
I have used N900 for some time ...
speaking of the n900: FSO is supposed to support that one and i guess SHR
would work too. i hope to get another n900 in a near future and to be able
to test that
the hardware of the n900 is almost what i always was slooking for -- the
software used to p
Hello Freerunner users,
I am interested in using the new f2fs filesystem created by Kim Jaegeuk
at Samsung on the µSD cards of a bunch of GTA02s. Right now it's ...
1. Get Linux 3.7 working on the GTA02
3. develop 3.7/3.8 for GTA04
how's that going to help when he's specifically asking a
W: main.c: This program is not intended to be run as root (unless
--system is
specified).
ok, that's another one of my questions: why doesn't qtmoko run as
non-root? is root access necessary for normal operation?
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hi,
does it still require the first FAT partition or does it comply to the new
scheme?
thanks
Hi,
QtMoko v49 for GTA04 is now available [1]. There have been really many
changes
this time so be careful :) Complete changelog is here:
* using gstreamer as media engine instead of cruxus
the SHR install guide already conforms with the new uboot setup metioned
by Nikolaus.
You can just partition you SD card with up to 4 ext partitions and put
SHR on any of them. BUT your kernel needs to take the 'rootfs' bootarg
from the bootloader for this to work. There are some kernels wich hav
to be honest -- it looks better :-)
anyone of the CAD wizards up to create a case like this, especially the
back and maybe even for the upcoming *knock on wood* tablet (its candy box
design isn't _that_ appealing)?
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:10:44 +0200, Yury Sakarinen wrote:
WTH, painfully s
http://www.leasticoulddo.com/comic/20120611
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"Schon vor dem Come-Back von Modern Talking wusste ich:
Dieter Bohlen ist der Preis der Freiheit."
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The Open Web Device is also using a Linux Kernel (the same
one used by Android devices) which is also open. This is a
100% open project [...]
should fire up all the alarms. Sure, the kernel is open. What
about the drivers? Are we going to be playing the "open shim to
closed dri
Hi Arne,
please try this config
aux should suspend device and LEDs light when charging with adapter
indeed, the new rules.yaml looks quite different (and while looking at it
i dimly recall those parts).
i moved even the *conf files in place.
suspend works now, that phoneui-quick-settings t
zhone is dead. use phoneui-apps.
hi
I would like to try out debian with e17 as window manager.
Installing the timo's latest image worked nicely.
according to the debian page on openmoko.org one has now to install
enlightenment
if one wants to use illume. but if I now want to install zhone I
hi,
a) both in my own installation with install.sh and timo's (j.) minimal
installation the power button has no effect -- no suspend or even
gracefull shutdown is initiated.
although the button press ist recognized in dmesg, no fso*log nor
frameworkd.log shows anything (everything set to DE
there I am left with a white topbar and a black rest of the screen
though.
that's the expected behaviour -- it's a very basic installation (as the
"minimal" in its name already suggests).
Could you please point me to the original mail from timo. I only found
hisimage via the openmoko wiki
ng used) -- but now i see at least messages about
state changes in /var/log/fsodeviced.log and signs of activity in
/var/log/frameworkd.log
thanks
Am Montag, 19. März 2012, 21:01:43 schrieb arne anka:
> Can you describe the problem?
- no apparent reaction to key presses -- no action (
Can you describe the problem?
- no apparent reaction to key presses -- no action (suspend or so), no
line in logs (everything set to DEBUG)
- no led action
- persist/ folder missing (frameworkd complaining about it and throwing an
exception)
- files in /sys/ missing (i'd expect the fso in d
hi,
i recently installed Debian to my GTA02 again, but the FSO apparently does
not work (correctly). Without going into it any further at this point --
can someone please post working configuration(s) file(s)?
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hi,
just for one i wanted to flash SHR -- this very nice animated menu leads
me to the ubifs or jffs image, but does not tell which uImage to flash.
questions:
a) which uImage.bin and how do i determine that?
b) shouldn't that menu offer the download of the uImage file, too?
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Michael,
...
i don't think it makes much sense to dicuss his ... funny ideas further.
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my idea of a donation was in the first place to get us nearer, my god to
thee .. ehm .. nearer the 350 units required.
ie in the first place to help people who can't afford the full price,
since it would mean the most value for every euro donated.
if that proves not feasible, the second best so
I think there are several options. If you keep the display, you have a
nice GUI device for experimentation with WLAN, Bluetooth, USB. And, the
SPI/I2C interfaces are accessible on test points near the debug
connector.
well, i am no hardware guy, but just a humble application programmer.
So
(but i would be willing to donate/add a couple of euros if it will help
someone to buy a GTA04 who can't afford the full or even the rebated
price)
myself and others in this list have made the same offer...
that's very good to know.
i didn't follow the development of sales too close (thoug
s: what about future fw updates for those closed parts like the
gsm chip? not just new features but simple bug fixes?
"arne anka" wrote:
so, what do you group tour subscribers plan to do with the replaced
parts?
just sink them in the waste basket? hang on the wall? or do yo
what's stopping me from subscribing for the GTA04 is simply the question,
what to do with the innards of my disembowled GTA02.
although the GTA02 as well as a new GTA04 would be litle more than a toy
anyway, i shrink back from the idea to produce electronic waste just for
fun.
money isn't r
sounds is a no-go.
the only sound i tolerate is the one coming out of the earpiece/headset
when making/recieving a call or listening to music.
--- On Sat, 3/3/12, Lionel Broche wrote:
Maybe using an audible 'clic' would be an
alternative for touch screen keypads? or using an electric disch
i too own a n900 and i too are looking for devices with a hwardware
keyboard included.
i used to be a big fan of graffiti (v1), but after using the n900 with its
keyboard for two years now i have to say, it's no match.
writing is much faster, using a shell for complex tasks was not really an
So the question is, with whom we (this community) are competing?
E.g.
* QtMoko & SHR vs. Android & iOS & Win Mobile etc.!
* GTA04's flexibility and hw-modifiability vs. any commercial device!
* the art of self modifiable 3D-printed case vs. take what you get!
imo, android _is_ the main opponent
Alexandros,
without any further research -- "make -clean" looks dubious to me.
shouldn't it rather be
make clean
?
After building qtmoko v39 in my debian -squeeze box :
in the qtmoko-build directory:
$make -clean
rm /home/chomwitt/programming/QT4/radekp-qtmoko-
build/src/settings/lan
make current release not compatible. I'm working on coastlines
generation
and it seems to be a little complicated.
A bit of an open door, but didn't Mandelbrod find the same some 35
years ago? ;-)
And I was thinking of Slartibartfast
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slartibartfast).
oh! wh
Unfortunately not. I cannot / will not use a "modern" mail client.
For personal reasons which I *will not go into*.
well, the ochrana already knows about you, you know?
*scnr*
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>> Please note Android is a Google(TM) product. TM stands for total
>> monopol. Or terrible monster. Google is evil. Android is no free OS.
>
> By what definition of "free" is Android not a free OS?
by "free as in speech".
it's not 100% open -- important parts of the os, namely hw drivers, are
c
sorry, but i completely fail to understand the issue.
every mail client worth using should be able to wrap lines even for
received mails when displaying.
instead of forcing their idea of (maybe even outdated) conventions on
other people, those having issues with lines being too long, simply sh
>> - gain a reputation as being "open" (which might appeal to goverments as
>> well b/c of several reasons)
>>
>
> Or not -- see the current spat over Blackberry in India/UAE/etc. "Open"
> isn't
> good for governments looking for tight controls. And while it might be
> great
> for their citizens,
found the link to the samsung open sourcing hw specs
> http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-releases-captivate-source-code-developers
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> And, I never understood why we should assume, that a premier league
> player would ever care for a small community like ours.
not for that small community per se.
it would most likely be only a intersection of interests.
the manufacturer would be able to
- gain a reputation as being "open" (wh
wasn't there something about samsung making the hw specs public for at
least one of their samrtphones? i can't find that news article again.
and a long time ago someone (raster? can't find that mail) wrote about big
things to come -- even that in connection with samsung?
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> Assume, you could get a motherboard upgrade board that fits into the
> Freerunner (or Neo1973) case. Based on the TI OMAP3 SoC (OMAP3530 or
> DM3730) and UMTS.
>
> Let me ask two questions to everybody:
> * How long could you be willing to wait for it to really become
> available?
> * How m
> I'd like to hear how the N900 compares to the FR in hackability. Like
> replacing pieces of software, like keyboard, window manager, etc. I
> wasn't able to find much information about this. It seems there is
> only one distribution that fully works on the N900, which is quite
> worrying.
hackab
> possible
> phishing spam because of the different urls in the text and link.
who says it isn't?
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> but we dont have busybox in debian.
and be thankful for that! in my experience, busybox is applicable for
_very_ limited devices only. and the fr is certainly not one of those.
> Is it possible to do something similar with standard debian logger?
standard syslog should offer -C for that.
whi
i forgot:
what does
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
look like?
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if it happens with both an ubuntu box and macos x, it's most likely caused
by the fr.
nevertheless, on ubuntu you may try to set
udevadm control --log-priority=debug
and watch the log for more information.
another idea that occurs to me: is the interface always correctly shut
down?
what does
in debian there's a package
dict-stardic - An English to Chinese Dictionary
another source may be
http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dictionaries_zh_CN.php
(according to
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=28028
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> It's my understanding that increasing max click will drain the battery
> faster and may increase "wear" on the stick (I don't recall where I read
> that), but it's a relief to have it working, and I'm really glad that I
> asked here. :D
it's a really long time since i have bothered with th
hi,
are there more recent debian armel packages of navit available somewhere?
the ones in the debian repo are rather outdated, being svn2974, while
there's at least svn3183M available already.
i tried to build it myself, but the other day while running upgrade at my
host a bunch armel-cross pa
> You expect me to pick up any ladies wearing that thing?;).
well, there's seven of nine ...
but with the freerunner, you're already a certified geek -- forget about
picking up ladies ;-)
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> Tried this, but it only removed arora, not the extra libs that were
> installed with it
well, unless arora really was the only package depending on libqt* ...
simply try
apt-get -s remove libqt4-network libqt4-script libqt4-sql libqt4-webkit
libqtcore4 libqtgui4
to see, which other packages
> I remember debian used to have a simple tool to check for and remove
> orphaned libs, but I don't remember what it's called. I'm also slightly
> nervous it might remove some libs that aren't orphaned, just not
> properly listed.
deborphan
or
apt-get autoremove
deborphan only lists, apt-get auto
> It's a A7 Freerunner?
> What is the price?
according to his mail, you need to contact him directly.
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you are definitely off topic.
this list is neither to insult others at your pleasure nor to discuss
issues with your project or ego.
those entirely tangogps related mails are filling up my account and have
nothing to do with openmoko.
please, stop abusing other projects infrastructure for you
had a short glance over the sources.
did you mix your algorithm inseparably with
illume/esomething/whatever-the-name? or would it be possible to add
another toolkit's interface to it?
given the current state of navit on the n900, it would be interesting to
maybe create an qt interface and try
http://stardict.sourceforge.net/
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> I think that on most networks you can still dial emergency numbers
> without SIM
outlawed in germany.
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> The issue is really what they mean by "open".
which of intel's hardware does not have open source, intel supported,
drivers?
if they really make all drivers available (as with their graphic adaptors
and wifi), it would be more open than the freerunner, wouldn't it?
_
well, i have to confess, i fell off the waggon and bought an n900, too --
already got the impression i was one of the last of the mohicans using the
fr as sole phone (or phone at all).
anyway, now the fr doesn't have a sim card anymore, i expected the battery
to last much longer than the usu
> cheapest solution but 49ct/MB is alright in my case.
simyo is at 24c/M prepaid call by call and additional 1G per month for
9.90 €
> http://www.simyo.de/de/informieren/mobiles_internet.html
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> Encrypted SD would be one application where you want to use initramfs.
well, but that's a specific scenario for a rather limited audience, isn't
it?
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> working. I guess it's better to compile the ext3 support back into
> the kernel
since apparently most (if nor all) people use ext3, i guess it is a good
decision to have that kind of essentials built-in.
> until we get a kernel with initrd support
i am not very fond of the initrd stuff.
the
> So if you, Christian, or anyone else in or around Hamburg wants some
> soldering done on his phone this is the time to speak up and I see what
> I can get organized.
here's one too!
i am in hamburg and looking for the #1024 fix.
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>> nope. and not with other targets. only the fr, which makes me suspect it
>
> What if you ssh to localhost on FR itself?
while trying that it occurs to me, that there's no way to answer that:
- i still have not found how reliably reproduce the issue -- it happens
pretty frequently, but, you k
> I cannot confirm that there
> is still sound when setting router_type to none.
does that mean, you didn't test or you did not hear something?
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>> > fsodeviced provides different plugins for audio routing. You want the
>> > alsa one for the FreeRunner.
>>
>> well, as written, "alsa" kills fsodeviced.
>
> Probably because of the missing alsa data files (see below).
nope. they are there.
>> what kind of audio routing? call seems to work ev
with that new package, the fr doesn't vibrate on incoming call.
something missing in the kernel itself or do i need yet another module?
btw: why is there a cdrom.ko?
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> fsodeviced provides different plugins for audio routing. You want the
> alsa one for the FreeRunner.
well, as written, "alsa" kills fsodeviced.
what kind of audio routing? call seems to work even with "none" (at least
i hear something when i call my box).
> You're running debian, right? Do th
ok, third:
since it has something to do with alsa_router, i checked th config files
and found in fsodeviced.conf
[fsodevice.audio]
# Which Audio Player variant plugin to use: none (default), alsa,
canberra, gstreamer
player_type = alsa
# Which Audio Router variant plugin to use: none (default)
installed libgee2-dbg and got that (probably not of much use):
Core was generated by `fsodeviced'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
#0 gee_map_get_keys (self=0x0) at map.c:353
353 map.c: No such file or directory.
in map.c
(gdb) bt
#0 gee_map_get_keys (self=0x0
> you can do it like this:
>
> $ ulimit -c unlimited
> $ my-program
> program died with segfault (core dumped)
> $ gdb my-program core
> % bt
ok, below's the output -- anyone able to make head or tail from it?
# gdb fsodeviced core
GNU gdb (GDB) 7.0.1-debian
Copyright (C) 2009 Free Software
investigating my core issue of the fr not suspending anymore after a call,
i see now that fsodeviced dies the moment i hit either "call" (outgoing)
or "accept" (incoming).
since fso-deviced is dead, nothing, in terms of idle notification at
least, happens anymore.
i try to track it down, but
>> a long time ago i used to experience frequent hangs with ssh
>> connections,
>> when using that infamous dropbear.
>
> Does this happen when you ssh to localhost?
nope. and not with other targets. only the fr, which makes me suspect it
has something to do with usb networking.
but it has not
>> please, explain "power cycling".
>
> rebooting ar6000 (one of Freerunner's computers).
that i did understand -- the question is, how to do that.
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please, explain "power cycling".
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a long time ago i used to experience frequent hangs with ssh connections,
when using that infamous dropbear.
after i while i got fed up and replaced that crippled thing with a full
good sshd, which worked well until a few weeks ago.
but with an upgrade of sshd a few weeks ago the exact same is
what is the fso dbus call to mark calls as "old"?
phonelog doesn't change call's state and thus i got so far 3 calls shown
in the shr lock screen, which i've seen already.
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starting the new phoneui-messages in debian shortly shows a window with a
few messages and then immediately crashes.
phoneuid log shows:
2010.02.14 22:10:04.088043 [phoneuid] DEBUG:
org.shr.phoneui.Messages.DisplayList
2010.02.14 22:10:04.090765 [libphone-ui-shr]DEBUG:
phoneui_backend_
> unfortunately off-limits right now... until... something is publically
> announced. keep your ears peeled. :)
wait no longer, here it is:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udlxr8t1nZM&feature=youtube_gdata
*scnr*
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> As I read there:
>
> http://bit.ly/9JtLqG
any chance, you post the correct url?
this is not twitter, you know.
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update to whom it may concern:
same issue today (no lock screen, no suspend). on a completely unrelated
note i started zhone -- eh voila, everything back to normal.
not sure, what zhoen triggers, but it looks to me like some communication
failure between pfonefsod and fso now.
> button), it _seems_ to work now.
well, yeah. and a few restarts of fso later it doesn't anymore, once a
call happened.
shr idle screen does not pop up and the fr does not suspend ...
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> In fact, I did my upgrade a week or so ago, and at first I could turn off
> the auto-suspend switch in the power settings screen, but it would still
> suspend regardless. Now it doesn't even let me slide the switch to the
> off position. I slide it, but it goes back to the on position.
you'r
hej,
before everything else, it would be really helpful, if you could let us
know which
operating system
you are using.
dfu-util is a tool. to flash certain devices, besides others the
freerunner.
almost every linux distribution should include a package of the program.
> http://packages.ubunt
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