package config

2008-05-19 Thread Anthony
Hello, everybody I have a little question about ucf (example with a package which contains a file package_file.conf) Can i use de package_file.conf.dpkg-old generate by the ucf utility? I would like to know how can i restore the old conf files after use ucf.? I have created a package which man

Re: Bug#481973: ITP: libiptables-parse-perl -- Perl extension for parsing iptables firewall rulesets

2008-05-19 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, 20 May 2008 00:34:48 +0200, Franck JONCOURT wrote: > > The package psad contains a file /usr/lib/perl5/IPTables/Parse.pm. > As a matter of fact, all packages from cipherdyne are being packaged > to avoid conflicts between psad, fwsnort and fwknop. Sounds good, thanks for the clarification

Re: Should dpkg-source -x list patches (Re: How to handle Debian patches)

2008-05-19 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:25:35PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels a écrit : > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > give a hint about this. If patches are "hidden" anywhere in the upstream > > code some developers fail to realise this and my suggestion might help > > noticing this fact. > > The d

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Lucas Nussbaum dijo [Sat, May 17, 2008 at 02:37:31PM +0200]: >> If I understand things correctly (but I'm really not sure I do), 3.0 >> (quilt) won't really help with that: it won't prevent maintainers to >> directly modify files outside of debian/ , and g

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 04:06:36PM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> B) (This is an honest question). How many things can rerere remember? If >>I use rerere to record how to resolve current conflicts in feature >>branches, does the historical i

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:42:54 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Hmm. You say things like this: >> Because the git format is imho conceptualy broken and the >> implementation is far from completely thought out. > >

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 20 May 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote: git-rerere keeps recorded conflicts resolution for 60 days by default, and it's configureable, and it needs to use git-gc (or git rerere gc) to cleanse it, so if you don't, it just won't disappear. I admit I realy don't care what your favourite VCS

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 08:59:51AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> 2) feature branches >> >> Each feature branche is based on upstream (with few exceptions) and >> contains all changes for one feature. >> >> Then you have an integration branche w

Bug#481973: ITP: libiptables-parse-perl -- Perl extension for parsing iptables firewall rulesets

2008-05-19 Thread Franck JONCOURT
Hi, > The package psad contains a file /usr/lib/perl5/IPTables/Parse.pm. > > (http://www.cipherdyne.org/modules/ also mentions ".. provides .. > modules used by the psad, ...") > > This potential clash should be sorted out before an upload. As a matter of fact, all packages from cipherdyne are be

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Ben Finney
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 09:58:55AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:42:54 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > It is trivial to generate a quilt format package from > > > git/arch/hg/svn and I'm sure th

Bug#481980: RFP: Jubler -- Jubler Subtitle Editor

2008-05-19 Thread dpdt1
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org --- Please fill out the fields below. --- Package name: Jubler Version: 3.9.0 Upstream Author: [Panayotis Katsaloulis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] URL: [http://www.jubler.org] License: [GPL] De

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 04:06:36PM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > B) (This is an honest question). How many things can rerere remember? If >I use rerere to record how to resolve current conflicts in feature >branches, does the historical information get lost? (like, I use >rerere to h

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-19 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 09:40:09PM +, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 01:24:13AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > You're describing a situation where upstream is difficult or impossible > > > to communicate with. I can't solve that, nor can anyone except upstream. > > >

Re: Bug#481973: ITP: libiptables-parse-perl -- Perl extension for parsing iptables firewall rulesets

2008-05-19 Thread gregor herrmann
On Mon, 19 May 2008 22:38:16 +0200, Franck Joncourt wrote: > * Package name: libiptables-parse-perl > The "IPTables::Parse" package provides an interface to parse iptables > rules on Linux systems through the direct execution of iptables > commands, or from a file. The package psad contains

Re: Should dpkg-source -x list patches (Re: How to handle Debian patches)

2008-05-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: The debian Diff is not hiding patches in the upstream code. It is the canonical place to publish them (at least for some (most?) of the debian packages following policy). Well, I'm DD for 10 years - I know this fact. But did you read about habits of

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Lucas Nussbaum dijo [Sat, May 17, 2008 at 02:37:31PM +0200]: > If I understand things correctly (but I'm really not sure I do), 3.0 > (quilt) won't really help with that: it won't prevent maintainers to > directly modify files outside of debian/ , and generate a huge > debian/patches/debian-changes

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 03:55:12PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > One of the wishlist features for the BTS that I've been contemplating > setting up is a "summary" feature, whre the current summary of a bug > is shown at the top, with the history continuing below. > > This could be easily extended

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 01:17:09AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > That would be very nice. I think you could easily make giant > improvements by reworking the bug listing pages. They would be much more > useful with a table listing all bugs with one bug per line, color > indicators for the severi

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-19 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 01:24:13AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > You're describing a situation where upstream is difficult or impossible > > to communicate with. I can't solve that, nor can anyone except upstream. > > Except that once again, upstream that would benefit from our system > the

Bug#481973: ITP: libiptables-parse-perl -- Perl extension for parsing iptables firewall rulesets

2008-05-19 Thread Franck Joncourt
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Franck Joncourt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libiptables-parse-perl Version : 0.5 Upstream Author : Michael Rash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.cipherdyne.org/modules/ * License : GPL, Artistic Programmi

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-19 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 08:59:51AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > 2) feature branches > > Each feature branche is based on upstream (with few exceptions) and > contains all changes for one feature. > > Then you have an integration branche where all feature branches are > merged. The merging

Re: Should dpkg-source -x list patches (Re: How to handle Debian patches)

2008-05-19 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > give a hint about this. If patches are "hidden" anywhere in the upstream > code some developers fail to realise this and my suggestion might help > noticing this fact. The debian Diff is not hiding patches in the upstream code. It is the canonical place

Re: Current build status of the mips port

2008-05-19 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Luk Claes wrote: > Hi Thiemo > > Thanks for this status report. > > Thiemo Seufer wrote: > > I went again through the mips build problems and collected the appended > > list which records the current state, with a few annotations added. > > > Needs retry > > --- > > All given back when

Re: Should dpkg-source -x list patches (Re: How to handle Debian patches)

2008-05-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Manoj Srivastava wrote: In that case, I fail to see why you are only interested in this information if the maintainer did not use quilt. Seems like you should be concerned about changes made to upstream, period, regardless of whether the changes are recorded in quilt

Re: Current build status of the mips port

2008-05-19 Thread Luk Claes
Hi Thiemo Thanks for this status report. Thiemo Seufer wrote: > I went again through the mips build problems and collected the appended > list which records the current state, with a few annotations added. > Needs retry > --- All given back when still needed. Please don't include packag

Bug#481929: ITP: libmath-algebra-symbols-perl -- Symbolic Algebra in pure perl

2008-05-19 Thread Deepak Tripathi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Deepak Tripathi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libmath-algebra-symbols-perl Version : 1.21 Upstream Author : Philip R Brenan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Math-Algebra-Symbols/ * License

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 19 May 2008 17:29:13 +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 09:58:55AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:42:54 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> Hmm. You say things like this: >> > Because the git format

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 03:29:13PM +, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 09:58:55AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:42:54 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > Hmm. You say things like this: > > > Because the git format

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 09:58:55AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:42:54 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Hmm. You say things like this: > > Because the git format is imho conceptualy broken and the > > implementation is far from complet

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:42:54 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Hmm. You say things like this: > Because the git format is imho conceptualy broken and the > implementation is far from completely thought out. And then you go saying things like that: > It is tr

Re: Should dpkg-source -x list patches (Re: How to handle Debian patches)

2008-05-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 19 May 2008 09:20:11 +0200 (CEST), Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> If you care about the changes, just use the command. You can even >> have an alias if you prefer that. >> >> BTW: >> +++ openssl-0.9.8g/Makefile >> +++ openssl-0.9.8g/Configure >> +++ ... (50 lines deleted) >>

utilisation de ucf - paquet de configuration.

2008-05-19 Thread Anthony
bonjour, j'ai créer un paquet debian pour installer une configuration générale d'authentification sur ldap. pour cela j'ai utilisé "ucf" sur les fichiers /etc/pam_ldap.conf, nsswitch.conf, ldap.conf et conf pam. je voudrais savoir comment je peux récupérer la configuration avant installation

Re: Mailing lsit code of conduct, again

2008-05-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Russ Allbery wrote: > Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 07:14:10AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >> The solution to this problem is to fix the mailing list code of conduct > >> to stop creating this expectation. We don't enforce it anyway, an

Re: Mailing lsit code of conduct, again

2008-05-19 Thread Ben Finney
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Codes of conduct usually have consequences for violating them, which > this clearly doesn't (other than sparking 40-post threads every > couple of months and annoyed paragraphs at the top of replies that > people generally ignore anyway). Again, my exper

Re: Mailing lsit code of conduct, again

2008-05-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 07:14:10AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> The solution to this problem is to fix the mailing list code of conduct >> to stop creating this expectation. We don't enforce it anyway, and all >> this provision seems to do in practice is

Re: pwsafe and OpenSSL?

2008-05-19 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:46:13PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Daniel Burrows wrote: > > I notice that pwsafe is linked against openssl. Is it affected by the > > recent debacle and if so, how? Do I need to regenerate all my > > randomized passwords, or so

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-19 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 18 May 2008, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > The diff.gz contains all the changes including the debian dir. It is > > by no means obvious if there are patches in there or not. > > I think reading a debian diff is the every day job of DD and DAs. And

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Miriam Ruiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2008/5/19 Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Because the git format is imho conceptualy broken and the >> implementation is far from completely thought out. The strongest >> point against it is that the user has to learn git to use it. > > I'

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 19/05/08 at 09:09 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Fix-Debian-Bug: 5 > > I think that: > Fixes: http://bugs.debian.org/5 > is better. The patch might fix a problem not reported in Debian. For > example, the Debian maintainer might monitor

Re: Mailing lsit code of conduct, again

2008-05-19 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 01:23:25PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 07:21:29PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > Of course, MFT brings up the whole "it's not a standard, why should I > > follow it, my MUA never heard of it" thing... You can't win. > Our code of conduct has the s

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:55:00AM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > 2008/5/19 Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Because the git format is imho conceptualy broken and the > > implementation is far from completely thought out. The strongest > > point against it is that the user has to learn

Re: Mailing list code of conduct, again

2008-05-19 Thread Andrew Vaughan
On Monday 19 May 2008 18:10, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > > People already CCed are a different beast. But CCing the creator of > a mail by default is not reasonable. > Unfortunately that doesn't work with Kmail's reply-to-list, which means manual attention is needed when the thread is being intentio

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2008/5/19 Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Because the git format is imho conceptualy broken and the > implementation is far from completely thought out. The strongest > point against it is that the user has to learn git to use it. I'm curious about this. Why is it conceptualy broken a

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 19 May 2008, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > Le dimanche 18 mai 2008 à 12:00 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : >> >> As a Debian package maintainer however I'm convinced that we'd be better >>

Re: Mailing lsit code of conduct, again

2008-05-19 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080518 22:02]: > In this modern age of a mailman that lets subscribers configure their > subscription to avoid duplicates, and procmail filters that help do > the same at the client end (and some mail clients that have similar > abilities of their own - ie gma

Patch license

2008-05-19 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, May 19, 2008 at 07:12:43AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : > Take a bug #111, severity:serious, affecting unstable,testing,stable. > The maintainer fixes the bug in unstable using a Debian patch. Following > your process, the bug is now downgraded to wishlist. Meaning that RC > #111 bug in

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-19 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 19/05/08 at 09:09 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Fix-Debian-Bug: 5 I think that: Fixes: http://bugs.debian.org/5 is better. The patch might fix a problem not reported in Debian. For example, the Debian maintainer might monitor Ubuntu's bug tracker, see a bug reported there, and fix i

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-19 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 19/05/08 at 08:48 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Lucas Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > and update the corresponding bug report, and it doesn't work with > > version-tracking, which would need to be updated have 3 notions: > > - notfound (already exist) > > ??? > > > - fixed usin

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-19 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Two additional changes could be made as well, to help with the process: > 1) add parsing for Closes-with-patch: in changelog. This closes the >bug normally, and also tags the bug + divergence. sounds >non-disruptive. This should actually probabl

Re: Should dpkg-source -x list patches (Re: How to handle Debian patches)

2008-05-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: I dont see a reason why the normal unpack action should spam the user. If a user feels spammed there might be means to switch this off. A command line option that reduces the verbosity comes to mind even /dev/null might be a place to foreward this s

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Le dimanche 18 mai 2008 à 12:00 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > >> As a Debian package maintainer however I'm convinced that we'd be better > >> served by having only native + 3.0 quilt. The VC

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-19 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 19/05/08 at 09:14 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > 'morning Neil and everybody. So many mails to read for breakfast! > > Le Sun, May 18, 2008 at 03:51:18PM +0100, Neil Williams a écrit : > > proposal: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (Fixes: #nnn) > > marks the bug as fixed by a patch added by De

Re: deactivated native samba support in mc

2008-05-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 18 May 2008, Patrick Winnertz wrote: If there is anybody who is interested in this feature please mail me, since upstream is pretty dead there is no great chance that he will fix this in a reasonable time. So if someone have good C skills and would like to help to port mc to link dynamic

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Charles Plessy wrote: > Even simpler: Fixes: #nnn downgrades the severity to wishlist, adds "To > be merged upstream:" to the subject, and sends a message saying "This > bug has been fixed by patching the original sources; we will forward > this patch to the upstream authors an

Re: How to handle Debian patches

2008-05-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le dimanche 18 mai 2008 à 12:00 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : >> As a Debian package maintainer however I'm convinced that we'd be better >> served by having only native + 3.0 quilt. The VCS comes _before_ the >> source package and the source packa

Re: divergence from upstream as a bug

2008-05-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080518 16:09]: >> The quilt extension is certainly a big improvement and will hopefully >> unify a lot of patch system using packages after lenny. > > Though I guess there still needs to be a way to get su