On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 11:59:32AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
and he will try to harm any other people is someone tell him that it
helps USA. His approach is completely nationalistic. You cannot
understand him and agree with him until he drops this attitude or
until you adopt it.
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 07:39:07PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
Notice that the US governement never said that was their aim, they said
Iraq was dangerous because they have mass destruction weapons and
support terrorism, which has turned out to be blatant lie. The french
governement opposed this,
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(Not saying you're a nationalist, Manoj.)
Even worse, you're comparing him to Ayn Rand!
-Miles
--
I distrust a research person who is always obviously busy on a task.
--Robert Frosch, VP, GM Research
Joe Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
While convenient for american developers, there are rather a number of
non-american developers who will not set foot on American soil, due in
part to the DMCA and (I imagine) the apparent dangers to non-americans
coming into the country.
Two of the
On Sun, 25 May 2003, Sven Luther wrote:
So let me get this straight. Instead of a country where people are
occasionally subject to bureaucratic hassles, (assuming Russell and
Geordies' sources amount to anything more than innuendo which is not
clear.) you would rather go to a place where
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
The West coast may be more expensive to get to for foreign visitors.
But I like the other suggestion of Florida. Lot's of cheap flights to
there.
i live on the west coast (san diego, specifically), but if there was a
debconf held in southern florida (fort lauderdale,
John H. Robinson, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
this is entirely off topic for -devel, let's move it to -politics or
-curiosa or somewhere else more appropriate.
But you just _had_ to get your bitter little rant in first, huh?
-Miles
--
Ich bin ein Virus. Mach' mit und kopiere mich in Deine
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 10:03:38AM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
that north america contains not one, but three countries: Candada, USA,
and Mexico
Candada? Is that near Canadia?
--Adam
--
Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 12:05:02AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2003, Sven Luther wrote:
So let me get this straight. Instead of a country where people are
occasionally subject to bureaucratic hassles, (assuming Russell and
Geordies' sources amount to anything more
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 03:36:39PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Adam Majer wrote:
PS. Personally, I would prefer to travel for a DebConf in
Cuba than in US. Really.
So let me get this straight. Instead of a country where people are
occasionally subject to
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 09:57:50PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote:
PS. Personally, I would prefer to travel for a DebConf in
Cuba than in US. Really.
Who wouldn't? You got the sun, the beaches and the ocean... what more
could you ask for than a debconf on a beach?
--
Duncan Findlay
On Sat, 24 May 2003 08:43:12 +1000 (EST), Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
On Thu, 22 May 2003, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Thu, 22 May 2003 22:39:02 +1000, Russell Coker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote:
You mean the iraq war? What's the point?
On Fri, 23 May 2003 20:01:48 -0500, Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Not at all. I know that if your economy suffers, mine suffers doubly
so. Mexico is so heavily dependent on the US economy that if you
enter a mild recession we are in crisis... And it is not nice at
all.
The
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 12:04:43AM -0400, Duncan Findlay wrote:
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 09:57:50PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote:
PS. Personally, I would prefer to travel for a DebConf in
Cuba than in US. Really.
Who wouldn't? You got the sun, the beaches and the ocean... what more
could you
On Sunday 25 May 2003 07:27, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Remember, the rest of the world does *not* owe you and yours a
living.
Quite. But if they take delibrate action to hurt _any_
country, or its economy, they shall have to live with the consequences.
And what is US trying to do to
On Saturday 24 May 2003 00:43, Matthew Palmer wrote:
* The rest of the world is sick to death of US imperialism;
* The US government ignores world opinion and does it's thing;
* The rest of the world puts pressure on the US people to change things,
since they've at least got half a chance to
Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté :
On Sunday 25 May 2003 07:27, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Remember, the rest of the world does *not* owe you and yours a
living.
Quite. But if they take delibrate action to hurt _any_
country, or its economy, they shall have to live with the
On 25 May 2003 12:20:45 +0200, Mathieu Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté :
On Sunday 25 May 2003 07:27, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Remember, the rest of the world does *not* owe you and yours a
living.
Quite. But if they take delibrate action to hurt
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 11:59:32AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Have you seen US developers try to raise common cause here to
boycott French products and conferences in France (because of what
some consider their silly stnace in removing a dictator from power)?
No? How many of you
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté :
On 25 May 2003 12:20:45 +0200, Mathieu Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Mike Hommey [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté :
On Sunday 25 May 2003 07:27, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Remember, the rest of the world does *not* owe you and yours a
living.
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
My only objection to a conference in the US is the weather is
miserable.
Which part of the US?
Sorry I should have said Northeast US. It's absolutely miserable here.
Surely the weather in Los Angeles
On Sun, 25 May 2003, Sven Luther wrote:
Notice that the US governement never said that was their aim,
The aim is Kralizec -- the typhoon struggle.
--
Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Adam Majer wrote:
PS. Personally, I would prefer to travel for a DebConf in
Cuba than in US. Really.
So let me get this straight. Instead of a country where people are
occasionally subject to bureaucratic hassles, (assuming Russell and
Geordies' sources amount to
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 03:36:39PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Adam Majer wrote:
PS. Personally, I would prefer to travel for a DebConf in
Cuba than in US. Really.
So let me get this straight. Instead of a country where people are
occasionally subject to
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 03:36:39PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Adam Majer wrote:
PS. Personally, I would prefer to travel for a DebConf in
Cuba than in US. Really.
So let me get this straight. Instead of a country where people are
occasionally subject to
On Sun, 25 May 2003, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote:
You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the
U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you feel
about the U.S. governments acts or positions?
When tourism
On Sat, 24 May 2003 09:51, Alan Shutko wrote:
The citizens of the US have a little more power than the rest of the
world, in that you have a *vote* as to who gets to fuck the rest of the
world.
Well, didn't work that way last time...
They got their second choice.
--
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 03:14:48PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
My only objection to a conference in the US is the weather is miserable.
I want to go somewhere warm!
Debian MiniConf @ Linux.conf.au, January 2004.
http://conf.linux.org.au/. Speakers lined up for the main conference
(which
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 06:15:48PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
Hi Greg,
Now that you've got this release out, have you given any thought to the
message I sent earlier about merging gdb server versions?
Kindly get this on-topic shit out of this off-topic thread. ;-)
--
G. Branden Robinson
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:55:31PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
This doesn't mean that we should not have a
Debian conference in North America. I'm sure there are many North
American DDs who'd like to meet more DDs in person. Having a
conference in the US or Canada is not an endorsement of US
Please take all of these political screeds off -devel!!
Regards.
Bob
--
_
|_) _ |_Robert D. Hilliard[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Palm City, FL 34990 USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559
Russell Coker wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2003 09:51, Alan Shutko wrote:
The citizens of the US have a little more power than the rest of the
world, in that you have a *vote* as to who gets to fuck the rest of the
world.
Well, didn't work that way last time...
They got their second choice.
I never
On Sun, 25 May 2003 02:24, Ed Cogburn wrote:
Well, didn't work that way last time...
They got their second choice.
I never chose Little Napolean and he wasn't on my alternate list either.
Something between 49% and 50% of US voters wanted the Shrub as president.
Please stop assuming
Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't assume that everyone agrees, just the 49.X% that voted for him.
This figure is not as meaningful as it might seem; we still use a
non-preferential voting system, in which votes for non-mainstream
candidates are effectively wasted. :-/
The most
* Aaron M. Ucko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030519 04:26]:
What are other developers' feelings on the matter these days?
I would rather not come.
On Sun, May 25, 2003, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
What are other developers' feelings on the matter these days?
I would rather not come.
Neither would I. Given what happened to Sklyarov, I don't fancy going
to the USA at all. And like many others, I won't object, I merely won't
attend.
Sam.
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 03:32:57AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
For avoiding entering the US there are better reasons such as the following:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1689.htm
May 20, 2003. French reporters covering Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3)
arrested, forcibly
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 07:46:53PM -0400, Geordie Birch wrote:
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 03:32:57AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
For avoiding entering the US there are better reasons such as the following:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1689.htm
May 20, 2003. French
Perhaps we can look at this a different way. I haven't read anyone
voicing the opinion that GWB (can't say the name of the beast out
loud) is a 'good fellow'. I'm supposing that all of us agree that
he's a snake-oil salesmen of the odious kind, interested most in
lining his pockets and the
(Unintentionally, I first sent the reply to you directly.)
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 02:09:24PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
Incidentally North America != USA.
And your point is, what?
A Canadian conference would be in North America and satisfy the
objections of people who don't like the US,
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:55:31PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
Perhaps we can look at this a different way. I haven't read anyone
voicing the opinion that GWB (can't say the name of the beast out
loud) is a 'good fellow'.
Probably because it's completely off topic for this mailing list. Take
it
Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
While convenient for american developers, there are rather a number of
non-american developers who will not set foot on American soil, due in
part to the DMCA and (I imagine) the apparent dangers to non-americans
coming into the country.
Two of the people I
Martin Schulze wrote:
Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
While convenient for american developers, there are rather a number of
non-american developers who will not set foot on American soil, due in
part to the DMCA and (I imagine) the apparent dangers to non-americans
coming into the country.
Two of the people
Glenn McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, 22 May 2003 12:20:39 -0500
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let me clue all of you in: anyone who takes a stand and tries
to hurt the US economy, I see as a taking action inimical to me, and
my loved ones, and I do *NOT* see
Marc Singer wrote:
(Unintentionally, I first sent the reply to you directly.)
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 02:09:24PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
Incidentally North America != USA.
And your point is, what?
that north america contains not one, but three countries: Candada, USA,
and Mexico
On Fri, 23 May 2003 12:21:05 +1000, Glenn McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Thu, 22 May 2003 12:20:39 -0500
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let me clue all of you in: anyone who takes a stand and tries to
hurt the US economy, I see as a taking action inimical to me, and
my loved
On Thu, 22 May 2003 20:55:31 -0700, Marc Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Perhaps we can look at this a different way. I haven't read anyone
voicing the opinion that GWB (can't say the name of the beast out
loud) is a 'good fellow'. I'm supposing that all of us agree that
he's a snake-oil
On Thu, 22 May 2003 12:43:22 -0500, Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
It may be too little if only one person does it... But I know *MANY*
people who simply will avoid (to de extent possible in Mexico, at
least) buying any American goods.
In my particular cas -and I think many other
On Fri, 23 May 2003 12:38:09 +1000, Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Fri, 23 May 2003 03:20, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
You are taking personal actions inimical to the standard of living
of me and my loved ones in retaliation for actions by my government
(which I have little control
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 10:03:38AM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
Marc Singer wrote:
(Unintentionally, I first sent the reply to you directly.)
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 02:09:24PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
Incidentally North America != USA.
And your point is, what?
that
Stephen Frost dijo:
Those who have concerns or political issues need not attend but that
should not stop the conference from happening if there are enough
people who are interested.
Absolutely true, but I found Canada much mor affordable than the States
last summer ;-)
--
I would
If your countrymen share that sort of attitute it explains why the
USA is in so many wars.
Yeah. We rarely suffer fools gladly.
Stop it, you're killing me. People from the USA describing others as fools.
One only has to look at the dross in US newspapers and TV news bulletins to
understand
My government may do things in a fashion that could be
improved (to put it mildly), but as a people, we are generally
benevolent, until something impinges on our consciousness and makes
us take notice. And given our collective attention span, it takes a
lot.
I'm not a DD but I
On Thu, 22 May 2003, Marc Singer wrote:
Perhaps we can look at this a different way. I haven't read anyone
voicing the opinion that GWB (can't say the name of the beast out
loud) is a 'good fellow'.
Well since you asked. I think GWB is a 'good fellow'.
I'm supposing that all of us agree
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 07:07:19PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote:
If your countrymen share that sort of attitute it explains why the
USA is in so many wars.
Yeah. We rarely suffer fools gladly.
Stop it, you're killing me. People from the USA describing others as fools.
One only has to look
That's funny considering just how many people are risking their LIVES to
get here. Then again, maybe its not, maybe its an insult to the ones
who've died trying to get here over the years.
I don't think not wanting to go somewhere is an insult to other people who do
want to go there.
The
Hi,
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 03:14:48PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
On Thu, 22 May 2003, Marc Singer wrote:
Perhaps we can look at this a different way. I haven't read anyone
voicing the opinion that GWB (can't say the name of the beast out
loud) is a 'good fellow'.
Well since you
Michael Banck wrote:
/me invokes azeem's law[0]. This thread has ended.
[0] Whenever Matt Ryan enters a Flamewar, no more non-value can be added
to it and therefore the thread will die.
I'm not sure why you see my input as non-value? Surely its not the fact that
a bunch of tightly wound geeks
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 12:10:35PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Fri, 23 May 2003 12:38:09 +1000, Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
PPS Be grateful that you have more control over your government than
I have over mine. My government obeys yours.
So you can't control your
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
My only objection to a conference in the US is the weather is
miserable.
Which part of the US? Surely the weather in Los Angeles isn't
miserable... unless you consider the total absense of weather to be
miserable.
I want to go somewhere warm!
107F
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 03:14:48PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
My only objection to a conference in the US is the weather is miserable.
I want to go somewhere warm!
You want warm? Come out to Southern California, Florida, or Hawaii for
warm weather pretty much the whole year 'round. We don't
On Thu, 22 May 2003, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Thu, 22 May 2003 22:39:02 +1000, Russell Coker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote:
You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the
U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The citizens of the US have a little more power than the rest of the world,
in that you have a *vote* as to who gets to fuck the rest of the
world.
Well, didn't work that way last time...
--
Alan Shutko [EMAIL PROTECTED] - I am the rocks.
Looking
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Alan Shutko wrote:
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The citizens of the US have a little more power than the rest of the world,
in that you have a *vote* as to who gets to fuck the rest of the
world.
Well, didn't work that way last time...
Maybe the US
Manoj Srivastava dijo [Fri, May 23, 2003 at 12:05:08AM -0500]:
It is easy to take actions secure in the feeling that there
are no consequences (which seems to be part of your complaint against
my goverment).
Not at all. I know that if your economy suffers, mine suffers doubly so.
On Sun, 2003-05-18 at 22:07, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
[I've already asked a few relevant individuals about this, but am
opening it up to the list at their suggestion.]
I've recently been in touch with somebody (a lawyer and professor
concerned with government open source policy) who is
Simon Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Please don't hold the conference in the U.S. I am a Canadian
who has not stepped foot on American soil since your government declared
it was at war.
You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the
U.S. going to help anything, regardless
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 04:06:17PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
Simon Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Please don't hold the conference in the U.S. I am a Canadian
who has not stepped foot on American soil since your government declared
it was at war.
You mean the iraq war? What's the
Hi Greg,
Now that you've got this release out, have you given any thought to the
message I sent earlier about merging gdb server versions?
Here it is again in case you've forgotten:
Hi,
The current version of gdbserver in uClinux-dist only works on the m68k.
In my v850-specific version of
On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote:
You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the
U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you feel about
the U.S. governments acts or positions?
When tourism goes down the hotel, entertainment, and airline industries
* Simon Law ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Please don't hold the conference in the U.S. I am a Canadian
who has not stepped foot on American soil since your government declared
it was at war.
If we have a sponsor and there are enough interested parties to warrent
it I think we should do it.
Hi,
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 10:39:02PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote:
You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the
U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you feel about
the U.S. governments acts or positions?
Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté :
Hi,
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 10:39:02PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote:
You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the
U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you
* Mathieu Roy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Both points of view make sense.
Fact is selecting a location for an event which is outside USA seems a
good compromise for everybody.
People that do not want to go to USA are not forced to, others that do
not think USA should be avoided would surely
On Fri, 23 May 2003 01:06, Mathieu Roy wrote:
If the US economy stays down long enough then the current government
won't last. Rhetoric about imaginary enemies in Iraq doesn't satisfy
people who lose their jobs because of the economy sucking.
Hm, as could be seen in Iraq, boycotts
On Thu, 22 May 2003 22:39:02 +1000, Russell Coker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote:
You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the
U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you feel
about the U.S. governments acts or
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 12:17:32PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
As one of the 200+ developers in the USA I don't feel it should be
avoided and I feel quite out in the cold most of the time when these
conferences come around because I don't have the funds to go elsewhere.
I don't see any problem
Stephen Frost wrote:
I don't see any problem with having conferences in the USA, or other
places for that matter, provided there are enough people who will go to
warrent it and there is someone willing to sponsor it. Lots of people
might not be willing to go to the USA for political reasons,
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 05:06:24PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté :
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 10:39:02PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote:
You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the
Miles Bader dijo [Thu, May 22, 2003 at 04:06:17PM +0900]:
Simon Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Please don't hold the conference in the U.S. I am a Canadian
who has not stepped foot on American soil since your government declared
it was at war.
You mean the iraq war? What's the
* Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
It's really not any more expensive to travel to Toronto or Vancouver
than it is to travel a similar distance inside the US[1]. Once you get
there you'll find that the conference is cheaper since the Canadian
dollar is (still) weaker than the US dollar.
As other people have said: I'm not going, but I don't object to a
conference in the US per se.
Same here. Even if I had the money to attend, I wouldn't like to travel to the
US because of the new copyright and anti-terrorist laws. Still, I think it's
a good idea to arrange a conference for
On Thu, 22 May 2003 12:20:39 -0500
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let me clue all of you in: anyone who takes a stand and tries
to hurt the US economy, I see as a taking action inimical to me, and
my loved ones, and I do *NOT* see that as friendly action.
What you say is
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And I know of approixmatly zero Americans who have reason to boycott
Canada.
Er, well. I doubt there's a government in existance that hasn't done
something objectionable enough to piss off a foreigner somewhere (e.g.,
recent european attempts to export
On Fri, 23 May 2003 03:20, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
You are taking personal actions inimical to the standard of
living of me and my loved ones in retaliation for actions by my
government (which I have little control over), and you expect me to
roll over and congratulate you all on
Andreas Schuldei [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What do we get from that sponsor? Conference rooms, network, accomodation,
food, flights and tshirts?
His response:
} We would provide the conference facilities and try to get accomodations with
} some LUG members. There may be more, but I need to
* (Aaron M. Ucko)
| Two of the people I originally contacted said this too, but always in
| the third person. I ask again, who on this list actually still feels
| this way?
As other people have said: I'm not going, but I don't object to a
conference in the US per se.
--
Tollef Fog Heen
On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 01:25:47PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
Joe Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
While convenient for american developers, there are rather a number of
non-american developers who will not set foot on American soil, due in
part to the DMCA and (I imagine) the apparent
On Sun, 2003-05-18 at 22:07, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
What are other developers' feelings on the matter these days?
While convenient for american developers, there are rather a number of
non-american developers who will not set foot on American soil, due in
part to the DMCA and (I imagine) the
For those reasons, I am planning to organise Debconf 4 in Vancouver (or
maybe somewhere else, if there's a lot of hate for vancouver) sometime
in the summer of 2004.
Yipee!
Joe Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
While convenient for american developers, there are rather a number of
non-american developers who will not set foot on American soil, due in
part to the DMCA and (I imagine) the apparent dangers to non-americans
coming into the country.
Two of the people I
On ti, 2003-05-20 at 20:25, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
Joe Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
While convenient for american developers, there are rather a number of
non-american developers who will not set foot on American soil, due in
part to the DMCA and (I imagine) the apparent dangers to
On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 01:25:47PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
Two of the people I originally contacted said this too, but always in
the third person. I ask again, who on this list actually still feels
this way?
I do. These days I won't travel to the US even if somebody would
pay me to.
Aaron M. Ucko (2003-05-20 13:25:47 -0400) :
Joe Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
While convenient for american developers, there are rather a number
of non-american developers who will not set foot on American soil,
due in part to the DMCA and (I imagine) the apparent dangers to
non-americans
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What are other developers' feelings on the matter these days?
If we're doing let's have a conf where we normally don't how about we
have it on the US's east coast aswell. I'd personally argue for the
nothern Virginia are myself.
Too many conferences
* Aaron M. Ucko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030519 04:26]:
* As mentioned, we have an enthusiastic sponsor lined up, which is a
definite plus.
What do we get from that sponsor? Conference rooms, network, accomodation,
food, flights and tshirts?
* Aaron M. Ucko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
What are other developers' feelings on the matter these days?
I'm all for it, and GWU would be most excellent in my view. Of course,
I live just outside DC... ;)
Stephen
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Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What are other developers' feelings on the matter these days?
If we're doing let's have a conf where we normally
[I've already asked a few relevant individuals about this, but am
opening it up to the list at their suggestion.]
I've recently been in touch with somebody (a lawyer and professor
concerned with government open source policy) who is interested in
sponsoring a Debian conference here in Washington,
What are other developers' feelings on the matter these days?
If we're doing let's have a conf where we normally don't how about we
have it on the US's east coast aswell. I'd personally argue for the
nothern Virginia are myself.
Too many conferences are held on the US's West coast, and if
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