Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-07-03 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Goswin von Brederlow said: > Faidon Liambotis writes: > > > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> ia32-wine is only available when ia32-apt-get is installed. > > WTF? Are you listening to yourself? > > > > Do you actually believe that it's okay to mess in such horrendous >

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-07-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Faidon Liambotis writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> ia32-wine is only available when ia32-apt-get is installed. > WTF? Are you listening to yourself? > > Do you actually believe that it's okay to mess in such horrendous ways > with the packaging system? If you don't want it then don't use

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-07-02 Thread Faidon Liambotis
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > ia32-wine is only available when ia32-apt-get is installed. WTF? Are you listening to yourself? Do you actually believe that it's okay to mess in such horrendous ways with the packaging system? -- Faidon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debia

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-07-01 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Goswin von Brederlow] > You only need "apt-get update". The rest works in aptitude or synaptic. I've gotten into the habit of using 'apt-get update' even though I otherwise use aptitude. This was necessary while I was building a custom repository at work, because apt-get's error reporting is fa

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-07-01 Thread Yannick
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > The choices where > 1) rewrite the old ia32-libs + ia32-libs-gtk for the new libc6-i386 > or > 2) make ia32-apt-get take over (slightly prematurely in hindsight) If it's possible (according to ftp-masters) to have the old ia32-libs packages adapted to the new libc6-

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-07-01 Thread Michael Meskes
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:04:38PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > Waiting for multi-arch, Goswin's system permits me to use wine (and > > chromium > > browser) on my 64bits Debian. > > A simple chroot will permit you to use this. And is a much saner thing > than anything we have seen until now.

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Aneurin Price writes: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 05:11, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Aneurin Price writes: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and determined >>> that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. > > Not wanting to leave it at

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Yannick writes: > Maybe all of this should go to experimental (is there a problem with wine > depending on experimental packages for amd64?) but thank you Goswin for your > work. > > Yannick The problem was that libc6-i386 broke all 32bit support in unstable making all 32bit packages uninstall

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Aneurin Price
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 05:11, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Aneurin Price writes: > >> Hi, >> >> I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and determined >> that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. Not wanting to leave it at that, I've spent a couple of hours

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Joerg Jaspert
>>> Will you do security support and regular uploads for it too? Or just a >>> one shot upload? Will you stand against ftp-masters whish to remove >>> it? >> You are actively working with all you can do to not only let us hate it >> but actually consider removing it completly. Good job. > Not bein

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Yannick
Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 11797 March 1977, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Will you do security support and regular uploads for it too? Or just a >> one shot upload? Will you stand against ftp-masters whish to remove >> it? > > You are actively working with all you can do to not only let us ha

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11797 March 1977, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Will you do security support and regular uploads for it too? Or just a > one shot upload? Will you stand against ftp-masters whish to remove > it? You are actively working with all you can do to not only let us hate it but actually consider remov

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Aneurin Price writes: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and >>> determined that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. >>> >>> So I'll just ask a couple of questions inst

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jonas Meurer writes: > On 30/06/2009 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > Did anyone who isn't on crack get to see 'ia32-apt-get.preinst' and >> > 'ia32-apt-get.postinst' before they were perpetrated upon an unsuspecting >> > populace? Reading them in the process of trying to unfuck my system made me

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le mardi 30 juin 2009 à 01:55 +0100, Aneurin Price a écrit : >> Is there any way of preventing this kind of major breakage in the future? >> I don't think many people expect that upgrading one package will FUBAR >> the packaging system. > > Report a critical bug again

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Aneurin Price writes: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and >>> determined that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. >>> >>> So I'll just ask a couple of questions inst

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 30/06/2009 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Did anyone who isn't on crack get to see 'ia32-apt-get.preinst' and > > 'ia32-apt-get.postinst' before they were perpetrated upon an unsuspecting > > populace? Reading them in the process of trying to unfuck my system made me > > feel more than slightly

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 30 juin 2009 à 01:55 +0100, Aneurin Price a écrit : >> Is there any way of preventing this kind of major breakage in the future? >> I don't think many people expect that upgrading one package will FUBAR >> the packaging system. > > Report a critical bug against t

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 30 juin 2009 à 01:55 +0100, Aneurin Price a écrit : > Is there any way of preventing this kind of major breakage in the future? > I don't think many people expect that upgrading one package will FUBAR > the packaging system. Report a critical bug against the package. Arrange so that it ca

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-30 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Aneurin Price writes: > >> Hi, >> >> I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and >> determined that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. >> >> So I'll just ask a couple of questions instead: >> >> Is there any way of preventing

Re: ia32-libs transition

2009-06-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Aneurin Price writes: > Hi, > > I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and determined > that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. > > So I'll just ask a couple of questions instead: > > Is there any way of preventing this kind of major breakage in the future

ia32-libs transition

2009-06-29 Thread Aneurin Price
Hi, I've just spent over an hour writing and rewriting this mail, and determined that I can't think of a single constructive thing to say. So I'll just ask a couple of questions instead: Is there any way of preventing this kind of major breakage in the future? I don't think many people expect th