Re: Problem with dpkg on alpha ?

2004-11-01 Thread John Goerzen
I've seen that on the buildd but my own Alpha isn't having any trouble. A message on this topic to debian-alpha yielded no replies either, so I suspect the buildd machine is the only one hosed. -- John On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 07:42:01PM +0100, Jean-Yves LENHOF wrote: > Is'nt there something wron

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 11:32:18PM +, Will Newton wrote: > On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 21:35, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > Right. We should not have games like quake, doom, or > > nethack,. since they promoite murder and mayhem and eating of > > corpses. > > So far so sarcastic. IMO if it ca

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:53:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:32:18 +, Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > And we have no time to set up i judgement over content -- > there is a clear criteria for inclusion of packages in Debian already. We have no need

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:30:48AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:34:06 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:53:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:32:18 +, Will Newton &g

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:32:26AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:03:59 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > You are quite right. We cannot fight all battles for everyone. > > > Let's make an operating system. > >

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 03:05:53AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > But the nudy cartoons would, especially in the hand of a minor. > > As far as I know, we are not selling to minors. There are Then you are extremely out of touch. I believe we have minors as developers. I was a minor wh

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:48:09AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Who gets to decide for each case? Usually it is the person who The ftpmasters, for starters. > does the work who makes the decision -- the packager, in this > case. The only way to override that is call in the tech ctte -

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:28:20PM -0200, Fernanda Giroleti Weiden wrote: > "It is also the type of discussion that deterred me > from becoming involved in Debian for some time." > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-women/2004/12/msg00011.html Indeed, and in addition to the powerful legal argument

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 09:54:12AM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote: > > If our goal is to advance the cause of a Free operating system, then why > > should we be including, in our OPERATING SYSTEM, images that serve no > > useful purpose, and instead alienate millions or billions of people > > I agree

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 01:04:50AM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 09:03:18AM -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Indeed, and this is also why Manoj's vi/KDE argument is not relevant. > > > > vi serves a useful purpose for

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 11:21:03AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Indeed, and this is also why Manoj's vi/KDE argument is not > > relevant. > > > vi serves a useful purpose for an operating system. > > > Porn/nudes/whatever don't. > > A CPU monitor does. How the load is displayed, line

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:26:26PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Nobody objects to the CPU monitor itself. The objection lies with > > the included image, not with the code. Remove that image and I > > don't think there'd be any complaint. > > If the program works well, and depicts cp

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-03 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 07:45:26PM +, Will Newton wrote: > On Friday 03 Dec 2004 00:11, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > Umm, the linux kernel, the purity tests, and the offensive > > fortunes are not G rated, so can't be given to minors without > > parental consent. I guess that makes it ille

Re: Linux Core Consortium

2004-12-09 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 07:08:48PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I think that tying core Debian packages to the Red Hat boat anchor is a > horrible, horrible idea. I tend to agree with sentiments like this, but didn't Bruce mention that we could partici

Re: The LCC is a bad idea, but that doesn't mean the LSB doesn't have any issues

2004-12-16 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 10:43:37PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Thus, the answer to the failure of the LSB is not "the Free Software > people should be more helpful to the non-free people"; the correct > answer is "the non-free people should be more helpful to the Free > Software people". Very

Bug#293510: ITP: missingpy -- Python interface and libraries for Haskell

2005-02-03 Thread John Goerzen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: missingpy Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : Not yet * License : GPL Description : Python interface and libraries

Bug#294818: ITP: haskelldb -- Haskell library for expressing database queries and operations

2005-02-11 Thread John Goerzen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: haskelldb Version : 0.9 + cvs Upstream Author : Daan Leijen and the HaskellDB development team * URL : haskelldb.sf.net * License : 3BSD Description : Haskell library for expressing database queries and ope

FW: A Call to Action in OASIS

2005-02-22 Thread John Goerzen
- Forwarded message from Lawrence Rosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Lawrence Rosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:36:47 -0800 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A Call to Action in OASIS A Call to Action in OASIS The free and open source software co

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 08:45:09PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > The much larger consequence of this meeting, however, has been the > crafting of a prospective release plan for etch. The release team and > the ftpmasters are mutually agreed that it is not sustainable to > continue making coordina

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 08:45:09PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > The much larger consequence of this meeting, however, has been the > crafting of a prospective release plan for etch. The release team and > the ftpmasters are mutually agreed that it is not sustainable to > continue making coordina

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 01:14:47AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Why only unstable? In other words: will it be possible for scc arches to > > have a testing distribution? Obviously, this testing/arch will not > > influence the release candidate arch testing, but will allow real releases > >

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:49:20AM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Mon, March 14, 2005 10:10, Ingo Juergensmann said: > > It would be better when the project would be honest and state that it want > > to become a x86-compatible only distribution (with the small tribute to > > powerpc users) than

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 11:31:56PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > A: "Oh, no release of Debian for Alpha... it's unsupported..." > > B: "Sad... it's a nice machine, but without a working Linux on it, we're > > gonna > > throw it away" > > It's unsupported officially, but unstable is still a

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 12:47:58PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote: > Basically, you're just leaving a number of Debian users out in the > cold. Users who choose Debian because we were the only distribution > out of there to provide serious support for the architectures they > care for, for various reas

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:21:39AM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote: > So far as I can tell, the governing rule in Debian thus far has always > been that the people doing the work get to make the decisions about > their corner of the project. I don't see that that's going to change > any time soon, and I

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:44:50AM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: > > Why? Because having an environment that works exactly the same across > > multiple architectures is a Good Thing. If I will no longer be able to > > achieve that, then Debian on x86 becomes seriously less useful, because > > now I

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:52:29AM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote: > Let me try to be clear. I am not necessarily in favor of dropping > arches. I am opposed to having portability issues make new releases > drag on forever, and slowing security releases. We have been told I am too. I have no object

Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3) (was: Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting)

2005-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 05:03:30PM +0100, David Schmitt wrote: > Thus the problem is less in the development and more in the support of > testing > requirements (all arches in sync) and stable support (security response > time). Therefore the N<=2 requirement is only needed for tier-1 arches but

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 01:23:43PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: > > >Not necessarily. I imagine it such that the porters set up their own pull > > >from > > >unstable, the same way amd64 does now. They can set up testing themselves > > >(remember, dak is in the archive now) so they can run their ow

Re: Questions for the DPL candidates

2005-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:35:26AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > everyone), we chatted about the topic and came to the opinion that > removing a bunch of architectures from being release candidates would be > necessary -- for reasons I hope are adequately explained in the > announcement, or that

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:50:04AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > What that actually means is that when porters want to stabilise, they'll > be able to simply stop autobuilding unstable, fix any remaining problems > that are a major concern, and request a snapshot be done. That'll result > in a n

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 03:57:40PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:06:35AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > > I have no objection to releasing security updates for the 4 "main" archs > > with announcements, and the rest as soon as they're c

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 11:46:51AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 04:27:50PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > > If I had to think of a rationale for it, the only one I could think of > > would be "the architecture needs to be fast enough not to block security > > updates". >

Re: SCC proposal (was: Re: Questions for the DPL candidates)

2005-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 10:02:37AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > >And the result of this discussion is what leaves me with great concern. > >Specifically, the proposal: > > 1) Provides no way for an arch to produce a stable release after the > >initial set of archs have produced theirs; > > Ha

Re: SCC proposal (was: Re: Questions for the DPL candidates)

2005-03-14 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 08:14:47PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 07:02:05PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > Really, I don't really understand all the difficulty of running > > apt-get -b source, or pbuilder, or some such for n+1 archs as opposed &g

Alternative: Source-Centric Approach [w/code]

2005-03-15 Thread John Goerzen
As I have been reading the discussions about the SCC proposal for etch, it seems that these are the main problems: 1) Difficulty with, and speed of, buildd systems 2) Difficulty of syncing testing across all archs given #1 3) Difficulty getting security releases out in time, given slow archs 4)

Re: Alternative: Source-Centric Approach [w/code]

2005-03-15 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 06:42:32PM +0100, Lech Karol Paw?aszek wrote: > On Tuesday 15 of March 2005 18:25, John Goerzen wrote: > [...] > > More on srcinst: > [...] > > So, what do you think? Could this work? > > What's a difference between srcinst and apt-buil

Re: Alternative: Source-Centric Approach [w/code]

2005-03-15 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 06:57:00PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, John Goerzen wrote: > > > 1) Difficulty with, and speed of, buildd systems > > > > 2) Difficulty of syncing testing across all archs given #1 > > 2a) Bugs on "small" arch whic

Re: Alternative: Source-Centric Approach [w/code]

2005-03-15 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 07:46:23PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > don't handle deps at all) > >... > > So, what do you think? Could this work? > > Yes, this could work. > That's what Gentoo is good at. [ snip ] > Your priority are your users, and if Debian has decided to focus only on > some ke

Re: Alternative: Source-Centric Approach [w/code]

2005-03-15 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 12:53:31PM -0800, Marc Singer wrote: > > Yes, but I hope that this proposal, or other suggestions, can help us > > avoid dropping ports. This specific proposal, for instance, is meant to > > provide us with a way forward that addresses the main concerns while > > still prod

Re: Alternative: Source-Centric Approach [w/code]

2005-03-15 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 10:45:45PM +0100, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > Hello > > > distribute for a SO arch). Anything past that is there just for QA > > purposes -- to make sure packages are buildable on these archs, and > > would be optional. > > This is the problem. How do you make sure that the pa

Re: Alternative: Source-Centric Approach [w/code]

2005-03-15 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 11:14:50PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, John Goerzen wrote: > > > This specific proposal, for instance, is meant to > > provide us with a way forward that addresses the main concerns while > > still producing a quality, usable result for

Re: *seconded* Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-15 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 12:09:08PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > >>- the Debian System Administrators (DSA) must be willing to support > >> debian.org machine(s) of that architecture > >I assume people can help with this too, or? > > Doing DSA work involves more than having root on a random box on

Bug#344913: ITP: hdbc -- Haskell Database Connectivity

2005-12-27 Thread John Goerzen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: hdbc Version : 0.99.0 Upstream Author : John Goerzen * URL : darcs get --partial http://darcs.complete.org/hdbc * License : LGPL Description : Haskell Da

Re: Archive architecture qualification

2005-12-30 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 03:32:43AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Anyway, that's the general idea; hopefully it'll become clearer > later. Given release architectures have de-facto requalified, candidates > for archive (re)qualification are ttbomk: > > * arm, m68k, s390, sparc > * am

Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-13 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:22:07AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > I want to remind you all, that previous to the two GRs which clarified the > meaning of what we must consider free, we had a widely disputed GR on the fate > of our non-free section, and we all voted to keep it, especially because there

Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-13 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 03:57:01PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 08:35:02AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > That's not correct. The project simply voted not to removed it at that > > time, by defeating the GR. There was no affirmative vote to keep >

Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-13 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 04:35:31PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:23:41AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > I don't see what that has to do with the simple fact of what the vote > > was about and how it turned out. > > So, you think that the vote

Re: Size matters. 7zip. Again.

2006-02-15 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 06:45:21PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Lars Wirzenius [Wed, Feb 15 2006, 10:42:02AM]: > > > (Once we use .tar.bz2, the sizes will be even smaller.) > > I cannot remember a clear consens from the "Size matters" thread, and > IMO we should go for 7zip at least

Re: Bug#354269: ITP: libghc6-http-dev -- GHC 6 libraries for the Haskell HTTP client library

2006-02-24 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 02:09:14PM -0800, Charles Stevenson wrote: > * Package name: libghc6-http-dev This already exists in unstable. See http://packages.qa.debian.org/h/haskell-http.html Also, libghc6-http-dev is not an appropriate source package. And finaly, I am concerned that you don't

Man-Db and Man both in Frozen???

1997-05-29 Thread John Goerzen
Hi, There appears to be a package "man" in frozen that shouldn't be there since man-db is the new name for that package. Somebody needs to take it out; otherwise, it is confusing to users. John -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Troub

Re: Man-Db and Man both in Frozen???

1997-05-30 Thread John Goerzen
On May 30, Fabrizio Polacco wrote: > Where is it? > I've just looked both in ftp.debian.org and in master, but man_ is only > in rexx . > > Or maybe it has been just removed? Hmm, either that or we are looking at a bug in dselect herebecause it certainly was in the package list when I upg

Copyright question

1997-06-01 Thread John Goerzen
send your contributions, bugreports, hints etc. to the author. Thanks ! Should this go in contrib or non-free? -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word

Re: Copyright question

1997-06-02 Thread John Goerzen
27;t think that we should make lack of modification permission to be a reason to not include in non-free (after all, isn't this what non-free is for?) -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAI

Proper section?

1997-06-02 Thread John Goerzen
What is the proper section for Perl modules? Should they go into devel, interpreters, libs, what? I am a little confused about this since Perl modules kinda fit the descriptions for all of those. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming

Re: anyone working on updating mgetty?

1997-06-03 Thread John Goerzen
-academ ... > > > > Heiko > -- > email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > pgp : A1 7D F6 7B 69 73 48 35 E1 DE 21 A7 A8 9A 77 92 > finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [2 ] > -- John Goerzen | Runni

Re: Copyright question

1997-06-03 Thread John Goerzen
ree? (It appears his intent is basically to keep companies from charging for it...) Below is the copyright file I'm distributing with it: This package was debianized by John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, 31 May 1997 13:05:05 -0500. It was downloaded from ta.twi.tudelft.nl/pub/dv/lemmens.

Possible Xaw{3d,95} bug / Re: Debian freeciv bugs

1997-06-04 Thread John Goerzen
standard widget set). I don't know which package is causing this... [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl Sackett) writes: > John Goerzen writes: > > > > Well, I don't know if the new server coredumps. But the new client > > coredumps every time I load it. > > > >

Re: 1.3 installation report

1997-06-04 Thread John Goerzen
w release debian and in the package xyz > ."). Perhaps this is something that gnats can be used for. I know FreeBSD is using gnats in this way. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FRO

mgetty Needs Maintainer!

1997-06-08 Thread John Goerzen
Hello, Some time ago, I handed mgetty over to Siggy Brentrup. However, I have not yet seen any mgetty uploaded by him and have not received any response to my e-mails. So...would somebody be willing to take over mgetty? Right now, it doesn't have any maintainer... -- John Go

Postgres95/PostgreSQL

1997-06-08 Thread John Goerzen
. If it will require a tremendous amount of time, I probably won't be able to do it; otherwise, I can give it a try. John -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the

Re: mgetty Needs Maintainer!

1997-06-10 Thread John Goerzen
, unless Christoph Debianized a newer version of mgetty without letting me know... -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: How do we encourage bug reports?

1997-06-10 Thread John Goerzen
; > What else? > -- > Thomas Koenig, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double > logarithmic diagram. > > > -- > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to > [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Fixing X problems for 1.3.0...

1997-06-14 Thread John Goerzen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: > 3. 3.3 to stable > >I really don't see why this should not happen in due time. Agreed. -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THI

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-14 Thread John Goerzen
ight now, I am using sendmail. (What, BTW, is the reason for not using sendmail?) -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PRO

XEmacs maintainer gone???!!

1997-06-18 Thread John Goerzen
I just sent a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This transforms (correctly) into [EMAIL PROTECTED] scsn.net reports that there is no dres user on their system. Does this mean that the maintainer for XEMacs is gone? -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom

xemacs orphaned [Todd Walker ] RE: Account dres@scsn.net (was Re: Mail System Error - Returned Mail)

1997-06-19 Thread John Goerzen
. Thanks, John Goerzen -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | --- Begin Message --- This person seems to have disappeared. We don't have any current information on them and they have not logged in in over a month.

Policy wrt mail lockfile (section 4.3)

1997-06-20 Thread John Goerzen
Why are we using dotfile locking only? There are much better mechanisms (flock, etc.) that should be used instead. I can see no place where dotfile locking would work and flock-style locking would fail... -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming

Re: Policy wrt mail lockfile (section 4.3)

1997-06-20 Thread John Goerzen
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Why are we using dotfile locking only? There are much better > > mechanisms (flock, etc.) that should be used instead. I can see no > > place where dotfile locking woul

Re: Policy wrt mail lockfile (section 4.3)

1997-06-20 Thread John Goerzen
However, why is it bad if a given program (like Elm-ME+ which I maintain, which brought the issue to my attention this time) uses *both* locking mechanisms? Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Why are we using dotf

Re: mgetty Needs Maintainer!

1997-06-20 Thread John Goerzen
word "unsubscribe" to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: xemacs orphaned [Todd Walker ] RE: Account dres@scsn.net (was Re: Mail System Error - Returned Mail)

1997-06-20 Thread John Goerzen
eally should keep it up! Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 18 Jun 1997, John Goerzen wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > It appears that James LewisMoss, previous maintainer of xemacs, is no > > longer around. > > I just did a `grep LewisMoss

Re: Installing XF86 3.3-1 crashed XEmacs 19.15-3

1997-06-20 Thread John Goerzen
a copy of this mail to his address anyway...) -- John Goerzen | Running Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: leap second

1997-06-21 Thread John Goerzen
em using "real" time. On June 31, its idea of time would be > wrong until the next software upgrade. Then, all time stamps would > suddenly change by one second (possibly causing FTP server remirroring and > other unpleasant effects). > > This is completely unacceptabl

dc and bc in Important?

1997-06-23 Thread John Goerzen
It seems to me that dc and bc aren't vital to the workings of a system (when I deselect them, dselect doesn't warn about any dependencies), yet they are in Important. Why? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL P

Policy wrt Important (was Re: dc and bc in Important?)

1997-06-25 Thread John Goerzen
policy doesn't quite apply correctly. James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It seems to me that dc and bc aren't vital to the workings of a > > system (when I deselect them, dselect doesn't warn

Re: End of Documentation Discussion

1997-06-27 Thread John Goerzen
fo 0) > ./x11/9term_1.6.6-3.deb: 551 (doc 551,info 0) > > > > Thanks, > > Chris > > -- Christian Schwarz >[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > PGP-fp

Re: Policy wrt Important (was Re: dc and bc in Important?)

1997-06-28 Thread John Goerzen
Who said anything about "working"? Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > * gcc should be in Important because everybody expects a C compiler > > Maybe they expect it, but these days, they don't *get* one... none of > solaris, hpux, irix ship with a

Re: End of Documentation Discussion

1997-06-28 Thread John Goerzen
printed output from documentation done in HTML. This is, in large part, due to the fact that HTML documentation tends to be split up into many small files. There also can be no real index for the printed copy. While HTML is good for online viewing with certain conditions, it is not suited to a

Re: End of Documentation Discussion

1997-06-28 Thread John Goerzen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) writes: > >>>>> "John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > John> * GNU Info has an awkward interface and is difficult to > John> search. It is also nearly impossible to print an ent

Re: Does it conform our demands?

1997-12-08 Thread John Goerzen
card available on the market) We use some 3COM cards. We have had best luck with cards based on Digital's chipset. These include Kingston and SMC cards. -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free

Uncompress /usr/doc/copyright/GPL.gz please

1998-01-08 Thread John Goerzen
so it won't work. Can this file be uncompressed in the future? -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming| Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DOS/Windows -- check it out at www.

Re: Uncompress /usr/doc/copyright/GPL.gz please

1998-01-09 Thread John Goerzen
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > On 8 Jan 1998, John Goerzen wrote: > > Can /usr/doc/copyright/GPL.gz be uncompressed in the future? > > It will be uncompressed in the future. See Bug #15025. I hope this will be fixe

xsqlmenu up for adoption

1998-01-09 Thread John Goerzen
Hi, I currently maintain xsqlmenu, an xforms front-end for mSQL. As I have switched from mSQL to the free PostgreSQL, I am not in a good position to continue maintaining xsqlmenu. Volunteers welcome. John -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom

Re: Linux

1998-01-09 Thread John Goerzen
for color or monochrome appears, hit Alt-F2 and you've got a shell. > > > -- > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > -- John Goerzen | Developing

Re: FILESYSTEM CORRUPTION

1998-04-10 Thread John Goerzen
rying to umount. * When I shutdown my laptop, it will hang trying to turn off PCMCIA. grr. Deadlock. :-( Regards, John "Install it again" Goerzen -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www

dpkg memory usage

1998-04-11 Thread John Goerzen
I was upgrading packages on my 64 meg system today ant noticed: PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 24785 root 18 0 12680 12M 568 S 0 0.1 20.0 5:36 dpkg Yes, that's almost 13 megs used by dpkg, and 20% of my RAM. That also is 4 megs more

Re: FILESYSTEM CORRUPTION

1998-04-12 Thread John Goerzen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Goerzen) wrote on 10.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Therefore, I believe it would be prudent, as a temporary workaround > > for the kernel bug, to umount all local drives before umounting &g

Re: FILESYSTEM CORRUPTION

1998-04-12 Thread John Goerzen
oft mounts for some applications. This is a workaround, not a fix, and it may not even work. > > John> * When I shutdown my laptop, it will hang trying to turn > John> off PCMCIA. > > That probably does need fixing. Indeed. It happened to me again today. -- John G

Re: Bug#20987: pcmcia-cs: Lockup again

1998-04-13 Thread John Goerzen
f on system shutdown, just as Windows 95 doesn't worry about turning if off on system shutdown (and thus neatly sidesteps these insidious bugs). -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming | Debian GNU/Linux is a free rep

Re: FILESYSTEM CORRUPTION

1998-04-15 Thread John Goerzen
Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>>>> "John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > John> Indeed. It happened to me again today. > > While watching my laptop shut-down last night, I noticed that mountd & nsfd > *

Re: *** The Upcoming Release of Hamm ***

1998-04-18 Thread John Goerzen
t delay it that long if we can prevent it. I would very much like to be able to get our department's network updated before summer semester begins, since bo is in a somewhat unfortunate state of "outdatedness" if you will. -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian

Re: wu-ftpd important bug(s)

1998-04-25 Thread John Goerzen
wu-ftpd-academ. The only problem is: how can I handle this? I already filed a bug against ftp.debian.org about this. John -- John Goerzen | Developing for Debian GNU/Linux (www.debian.org) Custom Programming | Debian GNU/Linux is a free replacement for [EMAIL PROTE

Bug#292653: ITP: lhs2tex -- Preprocessor to generate LaTeX code from literate Haskell sources

2005-01-28 Thread John Goerzen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: lhs2tex Version : 1.9 Upstream Author : Ralf Hinze [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andres Loeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.cs.uu.nl/~andres/lhs2tex/ * License : GPL Description : Preprocessor

Re: Native package with two changelogs

2005-04-06 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 02:16:08PM +0200, Benjamin Mesing wrote: > Hello, > > I have a package which I develop on my own and which is debian native. > However due to historical reasons, I have a CHANGELOG file which is not > the debian/changelog file. > How should I handle this case? I am in favo

Bug#304863: ITP: arch2darcs -- Convert Arch/tla repositories to Darcs

2005-04-15 Thread John Goerzen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: arch2darcs Version : 0.99.0 Upstream Author : John Goerzen * URL : http://darcs.complete.org/arch2darcs * License : GPL Description : Convert Arch/tla repositor

Bug#305420: ITP: darcs-buildpackage -- Suite to help with Debian packages in Darcs archives

2005-04-19 Thread John Goerzen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: darcs-buildpackage Version : 0.5.0 Upstream Author : John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : None yet * License : GPL Description : Suite to help

{Arch,OCaml,Python,Mono} Packages for Adoption

2005-04-19 Thread John Goerzen
s. [Arch] cscvs tla-tools [Ocaml] regexp-pp pycaml perl4caml [Mono] nant ikvm [Python] gnupginterface [Misc] inform-mode haskelldb -- John Goerzen Author, Foundations of Python Network Programming http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590593715 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTE

Re: {Arch,OCaml,Python,Mono} Packages for Adoption

2005-04-27 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 11:46:37AM +0200, Andreas Rottmann wrote: > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > tla-tools > > > I can take this one, if noone else wants it. Manoj has also expressed interest; could you coordinate with him? -- John -- To U

FW: Processing of tla-load-dirs_1.0.21ubuntu1_source.changes

2005-05-22 Thread John Goerzen
xit status 2) tla-load-dirs_1.0.21ubuntu1_source.changes has bad PGP/GnuPG signature! Removing tla-load-dirs_1.0.21ubuntu1_source.changes, but keeping its associated files for now. Greetings, Your Debian queue daemon - End forwarded message - -- John Goerzen Author, Foundations

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