be tainted more. We've already
given the professional world enough of a reason to abandon ship and
laugh at us.
PS: the random quote generator seems to be able to establish
semantic context at last!
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> I got at least security announcements from
> debian-security-announce@lists.debian.org
Not between 3 June and 30 June.
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is not a server, it's a DNS A record. It's
a whole lot easier to point that elsewhere in case of problems than
expecting users to make sense of the errors they get when some
servers can't be reached.
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> security.debian.org is not a server, it's a DNS A record. It's
> a whole lot easier to point that elsewhere in case of problems than
> expecting users to make sense of the errors they get whe
belief that they are safe because s.d.o doesn't have any
new stuff.
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not meet the general expectations of our users, it's essentially
more of a clog than a bottleneck.
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to Solaris because of the security
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stuff with me, it seems. He's never replied to mails or pings from
me about this stuff.
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isn't it all the more important for Debian to get it right and help
protect those that don't know better?
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And it does not address the problem that our security infrastructure
went down for a while and we found out about it from a German news
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om what I know, Joey prefers editing text files and expects others
to do the same.
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says
"delegations", but that doesn't mean that anything therein is
a delegation. Looks more like tbm actually wanted to write
a different message and forgot to change the subject afterwards. :)
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> I strongly recommend to use anonftpsync for mirroring any of the debian
> archives
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th a trojan, in
addition to kernel modules and other Linux maladities. That is, if
the attacker gets root...
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er on port ?
None that I know. I suggest using a second nameserver to resolve the
A record to the internal IP.
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a second nameserver.
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and I see no other problems.
Maybe the administrators would be so kind as to investigate the
issue and send an update when it's resolved?
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Please set your Mail-Followup-Header correctly.
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> out that IP when there is more than one A record available
> instead? (I can't think of a simple way of doing that off the top
> of my head, though)
It also bears the risk of hardcoding and forgetting, or missing an
update.
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> the https db.debian.org certificate is expired on 2006-01-30.
#354747
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>
> One day more or less doesn't really matter. So far, Debian security
> updates predated widespread (semi-)automated exploits by weeks.
Why then do you think security.d.o is not mirrored by Debian?
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> I've finally removed tartini from the security round robin.
Thanks!
I assume wiggy is in charge to solve the problem with tartini?
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feature. Firewall-1 scales pretty damn well (4 Gbps throughput,
stateful), but in my experience, iptables can handle way more.
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> > door") are reachable.
>
> The host is not reachable.
Good to see you're on top of the issue.
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tries a password login for the root account, since password logins
are not possible anyway.
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hlight, then, is a *successful* login.
Sure, those get logged anyway, as cracking attempts, because our
policy is never to log in as root. However, we leave
without-password in there and keep a separate root DSA key, just in
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with a number of different clients. I do not want to go down this
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ly shot. :)
But yes, you are right. To be on the safe side, I added a comment to
sshd_config.
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s there some
> other way to create a log for all commands run on a system?
apt-cache show acct?
Though it really lacks a lot of information.
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ive, and this is just a problem that hadn't been
> spotted since we've only just started releasing advisories with it.)
Ok. Thanks for your time and the explanation, Steve.
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> So running su with the '-' option is safer then running without it?
In that it bears less surprises, yes.
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his is zero, the kernel will loop on a panic; if non-zero it
indicates that the kernel should autoreboot after this number of
seconds. When you use the software watchdog device driver, the
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Is this legitimate? Is someone trying to redirect me in a cheap hack
attempt?
Are people seeing this often?
Since the Linux kernel handles it quite alright, should I have
logcheck filter it?
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different if someone tried a valid redirect that would be ignored
due to my configuration?
Sorry, I currently only have one functional machine in my test
network. :/
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heck ICMP redirects on their networks.
Stephen, could you forward me the relevant log messages from your
work gateway so that I can make sure to properly draft the logcheck
filters?
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Once you created the rules, please
make sure to submit a bug. It can't be that hard, but do try to go
with fail2ban from etch, since sarge's configuration is deprecated.
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to debian-security@lists.debian.org to
alert people.
< weinholt> i don't really have time for that, unfortunately, i have
work to do
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t be unsafer because of it.
> I think a simple scan could give the same information, and anyway
> the name of debian machines is listed also on the web.
i see no attack vector.
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ay consider chroot.
no security benefit
> It's a good idea to read through securing debian howto
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>
> Just wondering: Why not?
http://www.bpfh.net/simes/computing/chroot-break.html
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> September 21, 2016https://www.debian.org/security/faq
> -
The DSA is not on the website yet. Maybe it'd be better to wait for
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security/ in the
announcement, not the security tracker though. This is also not
addressed in the FAQ. Hence maybe it'd make sense to add a note to
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epository is there, but I
> wouldn't count on it for security.
give me an estimate (someone) on how much manpower is required to
provide this service for testing?
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ty step forward.
have a look at grsecurity.net, which i think implements this at
a lower cost.
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also sprach Mike Dresser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.10.2226 +0100]:
> That lets you in just fine unfortunately.
so put /bin/true for the shell.
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DISCUSSION OF THIS SORT ON *DEBIAN*-SECURITY.
GO ELSEWHERE!
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write a custom notification script that parses
/ec/shadow?
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agree? If not, then please tell us what LSM
precautions take care to prevent that.
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gt; install for those who want to play with BSD secure levels in
> Linux.
The question is: does it mix with SE Linux? I always wondered about
LSM... they are stacking modules, right? So this would have to come
before or after SELinux, at which point one can take control from
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[joey, CCing you to make sure you see this immediately. you probably
read debian-security too, i'd assume...]
Check out
http://www-1.ibm.com/services/continuity/recover1.nsf/MSS/MSS-OAR-E01-2002.765.1
DSA 169 is htcheck, not tomcat, right? At least that's the case on
www.debian.org.
What's u
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.04.1810 +0200]:
> Check out
>
> http://www-1.ibm.com/services/continuity/recover1.nsf/MSS/MSS-OAR-E01-2002.765.1
>
> DSA 169 is htcheck, not tomcat, right? At least that's the case on
> www.debian.org.
also sprach Kjetil Kjernsmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.08.1247 +0200]:
> The problem with e.g. telnet isn't really that it shouldn't be used for
> anything, but that it shouldn't be used by somebody. It is quite OK to
> use to check what the webserver responds to a particular request, for
> e
please don't CC me on lists that I read!
also sprach Kjetil Kjernsmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.08.1402 +0200]:
> Oh, wasn't that the point with the harden-clients package? If you
> attempt to install a Bad[tm] client, you will be told, because it
> conflicts with harden-clients?
Oh, now I u
also sprach Peter Cordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.08.2008 +0200]:
> It uses the telnet protocol, not just a raw TCP connection, so netcat is
> inadequate.
netcat can negotiate telnet connections with the -t option. unless you
are using very ancient terminal types, netcat is a complete substit
this post to everyone else.
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epository is there, but I
> wouldn't count on it for security.
give me an estimate (someone) on how much manpower is required to
provide this service for testing?
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ve to wait ages to connect to
certain FTP or IRC servers.
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