Re: menu.lst problem

2009-07-30 Thread Siggy Brentrup
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 14:18 +0800, Timothy Wu wrote: > Hi, > > It seems to me that every time I do some upgrade via apt-get, maybe it's > kernel upgrades, my menu.lst entries changes from /dev/sda1 to /dev/hda1. As > a result, the system don't find the disk. It occurs to me like three times > al

menu.lst problem

2009-07-30 Thread Timothy Wu
Hi, It seems to me that every time I do some upgrade via apt-get, maybe it's kernel upgrades, my menu.lst entries changes from /dev/sda1 to /dev/hda1. As a result, the system don't find the disk. It occurs to me like three times already. Why does it keep on getting changed incorrectly? Is there an

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-30 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Of course, a static IP would probably work as well, not by its nature >> but because your ISP probably doesn't block port 80 for their static IPs >> (since that would defeat the main purpose of having a static IP). > Some ISPs only have a small surcharge for static IPs, but others only offer > t

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-30 21:43, Stefan Monnier wrote: [snip] Of course, a static IP would probably work as well, not by its nature but because your ISP probably doesn't block port 80 for their static IPs (since that would defeat the main purpose of having a static IP). Some ISPs only have a small surchar

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-30 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Ok so here is the issue I have a desire to run my own linux server as an rt > box and to do wiki web serving plus email. This requires outside machines to be able to connect to your server on port 80 by default. It's fairly common for ISPs to block port 80 specifically because they don't want y

Re: Whats the best way to upgrade tools from source?

2009-07-30 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
ml ml wrote: > Hello List, > > i need file version 5.x on my system. But Debian etch comes with file > version 4.17. > How do i install 5.x (from source) without messing up my system? > ETCH is old. Is upgrading to the latest stable version (LENNY) not an option? raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanch

Re: Inquiry:Debian server Remote Desktop Connection

2009-07-30 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
hadi motamedi wrote: > Dear All > Can you please let us know what is the required service that needs to be > enabled on the Debian server to allow for Remote Desktop Connection opened > from the MS Windows client's side ? > Regards > H.Motamedi Install the openssh-server package on the Debian ser

Re: Musings on debian-user list

2009-07-30 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Tim Beauregard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I recently re-subscribed having been off for about four years. The > changes I have noticed are: > > 1. Much less traffic. I previously got 250+ posts per day. Now 50-100. > Could this be due to the development of ub

Re: Musings on debian-user list

2009-07-30 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Michael Pobega wrote: > Mark, a GUI-less system is useless (unless it's some sort of server). You are kidding, right? It actually depends on what you are using it for. I use GUI-less systems all the times for programming. They are as useful as a GUI system. This is not to say that GUI is usele

Re: Lenny Installation from USB Memory stick using DVD .iso image

2009-07-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-30 17:00, Jochen Schulz wrote: Ron Johnson: On 2009-07-30 14:08, Jochen Schulz wrote: I haven't tried it yet, but I see no reason why that shouldn't work. The DVD image is a regular ISO 9660, just as the CD images. Linux uses the udf fs for DVD & BlueRay disks. I expected that,

Re: Safest maintenance of a sid system

2009-07-30 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
AG wrote: > Hi > > Having recently upgraded to sid, I want to try to ensure that I am able > to maintain a more or less stable system under those circumstances and > in the full knowledge that, by definition, sid is unstable and may be > subject to breakages. > > With this in mind, what do the m

Re: should I get SATA drives for old PC?

2009-07-30 Thread Rob Owens
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 09:54:55AM -0700, Carl Johnson wrote: > Steve Kleene writes: > > > Before I build a Lenny system on my 5-year-old PC, I want to replace the two > > internal hard drives. I'm not too swift with hardware specs and want to > > make > > sure I get the right drives. I will p

Re: Musings on debian-user list

2009-07-30 Thread Rob Owens
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:01:48PM -0400, Chris Jones wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:14:55AM EDT, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 06:47:55PM -0400, Chris Jones > > was heard to say: > > > (2) Since mutt runs its editor as an external program, there's no way > > to

Re: Musings on debian-user list

2009-07-30 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:14:55AM EDT, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 06:47:55PM -0400, Chris Jones > was heard to say: [..] > > The only thing I find "frustrating" about mutt is that it is impossible > > to view more than one message at a time - you actually have to fire up a

Re: Building Arora deb

2009-07-30 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2009-07-30 23:41 +0200, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > >> I just downloaded the source for Arora (a webkit-based browser) >> because the version available to me through aptitude doesn't like my >> ELF64 system.  The source comes with a 'builddeb.s

Re: Building Arora deb

2009-07-30 Thread Jochen Schulz
Patrick Wiseman: > > I just downloaded the source for Arora (a webkit-based browser) > because the version available to me through aptitude doesn't like my > ELF64 system. The source comes with a 'builddeb.sh' script, but it > fails with './builddeb.sh: line 4: debuild: command not found'. > Obvi

Re: Lenny Installation from USB Memory stick using DVD .iso image

2009-07-30 Thread Jochen Schulz
Ron Johnson: > On 2009-07-30 14:08, Jochen Schulz wrote: >> >> I haven't tried it yet, but I see no reason why that shouldn't work. The >> DVD image is a regular ISO 9660, just as the CD images. > > > Linux uses the udf fs for DVD & BlueRay disks. > I expected that, too, but: $ file iso/debia

Re: Musings on debian-user list

2009-07-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:14:55 -0700 Daniel Burrows wrote: > (3) mutt takes *ages* to load large folders, particularly if they're > maildir based. ISTM that an on-disk index would be a sensible > idea here. set header_cache="~/.mutt/cache/" I also recompile mutt using "--with-tokyo

Re: Building Arora deb

2009-07-30 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-07-30 23:41 +0200, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > I just downloaded the source for Arora (a webkit-based browser) > because the version available to me through aptitude doesn't like my > ELF64 system. The source comes with a 'builddeb.sh' script, but it > fails with './builddeb.sh: line 4: debu

Re: Building Arora deb

2009-07-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-30 16:41, Patrick Wiseman wrote: Hi: I just downloaded the source for Arora (a webkit-based browser) because the version available to me through aptitude doesn't like my ELF64 system. The source comes with a 'builddeb.sh' script, but it fails with './builddeb.sh: line 4: debuild: com

Building Arora deb

2009-07-30 Thread Patrick Wiseman
Hi: I just downloaded the source for Arora (a webkit-based browser) because the version available to me through aptitude doesn't like my ELF64 system. The source comes with a 'builddeb.sh' script, but it fails with './builddeb.sh: line 4: debuild: command not found'. Obviously I'm missing somethi

Re: Lenny Installation from USB Memory stick using DVD .iso image

2009-07-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-30 14:08, Jochen Schulz wrote: Mark: Has anyone had success using the method described here http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en (Section 4.3.2) using a DVD .iso image? I haven't tried it yet, but I see no reason why that shouldn't work. The DVD image is a regu

Re: Musings on debian-user list

2009-07-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-30 15:35, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:54:33 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: GNOME really is too bulky and pretty dumbed-down, but they've done IMNSHO a good job of making an easily-configured panel and a "smooth" system that lets me customize it enough so that what I nee

Re: [SOLVED] Lenny Installation from USB Memory stick using DVD .iso image

2009-07-30 Thread Mark
I've used unetbootin for a friend's Ubuntu installation (worked very well) and tried it with Lenny stable but it didn't work. The second link you provided indicates it is available for squeeze and sid but not Lenny so I assume that's why it doesn't work with the current Lenny stable. Luckily the

Re: Musings on debian-user list

2009-07-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:54:33 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: > GNOME really is too bulky and pretty dumbed-down, but they've done > IMNSHO a good job of making an easily-configured panel and a > "smooth" system that lets me customize it enough so that what I need > is there, in colors and icon style

Re: [SOLVED] Lenny Installation from USB Memory stick using DVD .iso image

2009-07-30 Thread Preston Boyington
Mark wrote: > Thanks J. Found an 8 GB drive for $16 so I'm moving forward with this, > I figure it's worth a try. > Just curious but have you tried UNetbootin? http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ it's also available in Debian: http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all&keywords=unetbootin --

Re: udev warning message on Debian 5.0

2009-07-30 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-07-30 21:49 +0200, Kushal Koolwal wrote: >>You should rm -rf /dev/.udev/, but it is better to leave the rest of >>/dev alone.Sven, I did rm -rf /dev/.udev/ and when I restarted my system I >>again > got the warning message and /dev/.udev was created again automatically. You will need to

Re: Musings on debian-user list

2009-07-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:59:00 -0500 Neal Hogan wrote: > > In the 3+ years I've been with Debian I've seen *great* > > improvements in user-friendliness. > > I wonder what "user-friendliness" means, sometimes. Well, in this particular case I tried to say: the Debian *operating system* has become

[SOLVED] Lenny Installation from USB Memory stick using DVD .iso image

2009-07-30 Thread Mark
Thanks J. Found an 8 GB drive for $16 so I'm moving forward with this, I figure it's worth a try. Mark On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Mark: > > > > Has anyone had success using the method described here > > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en (S

RE: udev warning message on Debian 5.0

2009-07-30 Thread Kushal Koolwal
>You should rm -rf /dev/.udev/, but it is better to leave the rest of >/dev alone.Sven, I did rm -rf /dev/.udev/ and when I restarted my system I >again got the warning message and /dev/.udev was created again automatically. Also I checked on another system which does not give this message and

apt-get upgrade dpkg error in chroot environment

2009-07-30 Thread Kushal Koolwal
SO I have a debootrap Debian 5.0 (i386) on /home/kushalk/debianTest I chroot into it by: #chroot /home/kushalk/debianTest and then mount the /proc by: #mount -t proc proc /proc Now when I run: #apt-get update #apt-get upgrade I always noticed that whenever a kernel tries to get upgraded,

Re: can I use ext4 now?

2009-07-30 Thread Mike Castle
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Tim Tebbit wrote: > you should mount ext4dev filesystems using -o nodelalloc and only use > freshly created filesystems using "mke2fs -t ext4dev Fortunately, the OP was doing exactly this. mrc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org w

Re: Lenny Installation from USB Memory stick using DVD .iso image

2009-07-30 Thread Jochen Schulz
Mark: > > Has anyone had success using the method described here > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en (Section 4.3.2) > using a DVD .iso image? I haven't tried it yet, but I see no reason why that shouldn't work. The DVD image is a regular ISO 9660, just as the CD images.

Re: udev warning message on Debian 5.0

2009-07-30 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-07-30 18:53 +0200, Kushal Koolwal wrote: >>Assuming Kushal uses an initramfs, without it the boot process will >> halt rather early if the kernel cannot find /dev/console. > Actually I am not using initramfs. Would leaving /dev/console and deleting > everything under /dev/.udev/ work? Yo

Lenny Installation from USB Memory stick using DVD .iso image

2009-07-30 Thread Mark
Has anyone had success using the method described here http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en (Section 4.3.2) using a DVD .iso image? The manual lists CD image but not DVD (Section 4.3.2.2), maybe I'm over analyzing it. I'm debating purchasing a new 8 GB or greater usb memory

Re: can I use ext4 now?

2009-07-30 Thread Tim Tebbit
Mike Castle wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Rick Pasotto wrote: mount -t ext4 -o nodelalloc /dev/sdc1 /s3 Leave off the -t ext4 and it should mount, though as ext4dev. Or use -t ext4dev. There are some known bugs with the kernel you're using, hence all of the recommendations for new

RE: udev warning message on Debian 5.0

2009-07-30 Thread Kushal Koolwal
>Assuming Kushal uses an initramfs, without it the boot process will > halt rather early if the kernel cannot find /dev/console. Actually I am not using initramfs. Would leaving /dev/console and deleting everything under /dev/.udev/ work? Kushal Koolwal I do blog at http://blogs.koolwal.net/

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-30 Thread John Haggerty
Is there a particular brand of router? Is the multi-tiered switch configuration preventing this? On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Paul Scott wrote: > John Haggerty wrote: > >> I would ask would a static ip really be able to allow the machines to >> reach the outer network? >> > > Why not? As l

Re: can I use ext4 now?

2009-07-30 Thread Mark Allums
Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-07-30 10:17, Mark Allums wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-07-30 10:02, Mark Allums wrote: [snip] Second, you need a userland that knows what to do with ext4---this is very important. Do you mean e2fsprogs? As a start, yes. What else, then? Is up-to-date Sid

Re: can I use ext4 now?

2009-07-30 Thread Mike Castle
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Rick Pasotto wrote: > > mount -t ext4 -o nodelalloc /dev/sdc1 /s3 Leave off the -t ext4 and it should mount, though as ext4dev. Or use -t ext4dev. There are some known bugs with the kernel you're using, hence all of the recommendations for newer kernels (that al

Re: can I use ext4 now?

2009-07-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-30 10:17, Mark Allums wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-07-30 10:02, Mark Allums wrote: [snip] Second, you need a userland that knows what to do with ext4---this is very important. Do you mean e2fsprogs? As a start, yes. What else, then? Is up-to-date Sid hiding something fr

Re: Musings on debian-user list

2009-07-30 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 06:47:55PM -0400, Chris Jones was heard to say: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 01:20:00AM EDT, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 28 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > > On 2009-07-28 13:09, Mark wrote: > > > [snip] > > >> When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debi

Re: can I use ext4 now?

2009-07-30 Thread Mark Allums
Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-07-30 10:02, Mark Allums wrote: [snip] Second, you need a userland that knows what to do with ext4---this is very important. Do you mean e2fsprogs? As a start, yes. MArk Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: can I use ext4 now?

2009-07-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-07-30 10:02, Mark Allums wrote: [snip] Second, you need a userland that knows what to do with ext4---this is very important. Do you mean e2fsprogs? -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: can I use ext4 now?

2009-07-30 Thread Mark Allums
Rick Pasotto wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 05:16:34PM -0400, Clemens Eisserer wrote: As far as I know 2.6.27 included stable ext4 support. Is there a debian package? 'apt-cache policy linux-image-686' shows only 2.6.30 in unstable and 2.6.26+17+lenny1 in testing. You need a recent kernel,

Re: security problem with proftpd

2009-07-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 26.06.09 10:35, Jesus arteche wrote: > I'm working with proftpd, it works right, the users make login and access to > the directories with the right permmission, but when they access to their > directoris they can also see the others directories from other users. How > can i do to make them just

Re: Problem with Xen in Squeeze

2009-07-30 Thread antipolizay
Hi, On Thursday 30 July 2009 12:24:46 Javier Barroso wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:38 AM, wrote: > > Hi. > > > > Can't run xend in debian squeeze. > > > > Install packages: > > linux-image-xen-amd64 > > xen-hypervisor-3.2-1-amd64 > > > which xen-utils version? Latest from squeeze re

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-30 Thread Paul Scott
John Haggerty wrote: I would ask would a static ip really be able to allow the machines to reach the outer network? Why not? As long as the outer fixed IP is routable which it would be. OTOH dyndns.org and others provide a way to tell the outside world what your current IP is. These service

can't get a terminal in icewm until after I start iceweasel

2009-07-30 Thread Hendrik Boom
This is in testing (currently squeeze, I believe). I log in using gdm. My default window manager is icewm. I click on the little square icon on the bar at the bottom (the one that says "XTerm" in a white box when I hover the nouse over it), and nothing happens. I do this repeatedly, and still

Re: Network concerns and configuration draft 4

2009-07-30 Thread Cousin Stanley
>> >> I run off of a qwest dsl setup that is feeding 4 computers >> > I would ask would a static ip really be able to allow > the machines to reach the outer network ? John In all honesty, I don't know as I haven't tried outside connections through my qwest dsl with a static

Re: U3 and other firmware USB thumbdrives

2009-07-30 Thread Nuno Magalhães
> Useful links for getting rid of U3... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U3 > > http://www.u3.com/uninstall/final.aspx The second is a 404. Turns out my mp3 player is not U3, it's mounted as a normal vfat. It just happens to have model #YP-U3ZB and acts as regular mass storage, not like what's des

Re: apt.conf and ia32-apt-get

2009-07-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Dave Witbrodt writes: > Does the new 'ia32-apt-get' system honor anything in /etc/apt after > initially being installed, such as 'apt.conf'? Or should 'apt.conf' > be copied to '/etc/ia32-apt'? > > > Dave W. It does honor it. It actualy comes with /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00ia32-apt-get too. MfG

Re: udev warning message on Debian 5.0

2009-07-30 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-07-30 12:21 +0200, Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote: > Kushal Koolwal wrote: >> Recently I was having some trouble with my udev, so I purged udev, rebooted >> system and re-install udev again. After that most of the udev startup error >> went away but now I get the following warning message during s

Re: udev warning message on Debian 5.0

2009-07-30 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας
Kushal Koolwal wrote: > Recently I was having some trouble with my udev, so I purged udev, rebooted > system and re-install udev again. After that most of the udev startup error > went away but now I get the following warning message during system boot: > > .udev/ already exists on the static /de

Re: Problem with Xen in Squeeze

2009-07-30 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi, On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:38 AM, wrote: > Hi. > > Can't run xend in debian squeeze. > > Install packages: > linux-image-xen-amd64 > xen-hypervisor-3.2-1-amd64 > which xen-utils version? > And reboot using: > > title Xen 3.2-1-amd64 / Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 > root (hd0,0)

Re: compensating for dhcp which only provides useless dns

2009-07-30 Thread Paul Scott
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:50:08PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: Hi, I have a new install of sid on a laptop with a new hard drive. The wireless works fine except at one location where my guess is that the DNS is not set up correctly. I work around this by adding useabl

Re: Musings on debian-user list

2009-07-30 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 29 Jul 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-07-29 12:19, Anthony Campbell wrote: > >On 29 Jul 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: > >>On 2009-07-29 02:36, Anthony Campbell wrote: > >[snip] > >>>Incidentally, the same comments apply to mutt. What's wrong with it? > >>Nothing's *wrong* with it. Except that "o

Re: Musings on debian-user list

2009-07-30 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Girish Kulkarni wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Neal Hogan wrote: >> >> ... I think Mark has hit the proverbial nail-on-the-head ... > > Yes, with a top-posted HTML message, sent using Gmail.  :-) okay . . . maybe he bent the nail a bit. At least it was on the head.