Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-09 Thread Tom Dial
On 6/9/24 00:14, gene heskett wrote: On 6/8/24 19:11, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/7/24 23:41, gene heskett wrote: On 6/7/24 20:38, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/6/24 23:14, gene heskett wrote: On 6/6/24 19:00, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/5/24 19:53, gene heskett wrote: On 6/5/24 17:25, Tom Dial wrote:

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-09 Thread gene heskett
On 6/9/24 08:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 02:14:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: orca is gone, as is gnome. Apt and synaptic refuse to re-install gnome w/o dragging in orca too. Good night, whats left of it, Tom. The "gnome" metapackage depends on "orca". It's a direct

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 02:14:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > orca is gone, as is gnome. Apt and synaptic refuse to re-install gnome w/o > dragging in orca too. Good night, whats left of it, Tom. The "gnome" metapackage depends on "orca". It's a direct dependency. hobbit:~$ apt-cache show

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 02:14:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/8/24 19:11, Tom Dial wrote: > > > > > > > > On your system: > >     man orca > >     /usr/share/doc/orca/README > > > > I won't say it's the best documentation I have seen, but it is > > documentation, and better than some.

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-09 Thread gene heskett
On 6/8/24 19:11, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/7/24 23:41, gene heskett wrote: On 6/7/24 20:38, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/6/24 23:14, gene heskett wrote: On 6/6/24 19:00, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/5/24 19:53, gene heskett wrote: On 6/5/24 17:25, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/5/24 08:58, gene heskett wrote:

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-09 Thread gene heskett
On 6/8/24 18:02, David Christensen wrote: On 6/8/24 12:13, gene heskett wrote: On 6/8/24 03:22, David Christensen wrote: If you installed VirtualBox on your Debian primary workstation, you could create one Debian VM for each of your engineering/ manufacturing apps.  This would give each app a

Snaps and Co [was: about 10th new install of bullseye]

2024-06-08 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 08, 2024 at 03:13:21PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > [...] That venv equ is generally what they all claim to do. I see your > reticence to make use of them as a restriction. I'm also firmly in that restricted camp. One of the things I appreciate distributions (and Debian in

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-08 Thread Tom Dial
On 6/7/24 23:41, gene heskett wrote: On 6/7/24 20:38, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/6/24 23:14, gene heskett wrote: On 6/6/24 19:00, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/5/24 19:53, gene heskett wrote: On 6/5/24 17:25, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/5/24 08:58, gene heskett wrote: On 6/5/24 02:05, Tom Dial wrote:

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-08 Thread David Christensen
On 6/8/24 12:13, gene heskett wrote: On 6/8/24 03:22, David Christensen wrote: If you installed VirtualBox on your Debian primary workstation, you could create one Debian VM for each of your engineering/ manufacturing apps.  This would give each app a clean Debian VM for installation, prevent

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-08 Thread gene heskett
On 6/8/24 03:22, David Christensen wrote: On 6/7/24 22:41, gene heskett wrote: I OTOH, have found AppImages a good way to get uptodate, and keep uptodate, packages like OpenSCAD, FreeCAD and the miriad 3d slicers, most of which do a new AppImage in the first week of the month. So the OpenSCAD

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-08 Thread David Christensen
On 6/7/24 22:41, gene heskett wrote: I OTOH, have found AppImages a good way to get uptodate, and keep uptodate, packages like OpenSCAD, FreeCAD and the miriad 3d slicers, most of which do a new AppImage in the first week of the month. So the OpenSCAD I'm running is nearly 4 years newer than

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-07 Thread gene heskett
On 6/7/24 20:38, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/6/24 23:14, gene heskett wrote: On 6/6/24 19:00, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/5/24 19:53, gene heskett wrote: On 6/5/24 17:25, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/5/24 08:58, gene heskett wrote: On 6/5/24 02:05, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/4/24 04:26, gene heskett wrote:

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-07 Thread Tom Dial
On 6/6/24 23:14, gene heskett wrote: On 6/6/24 19:00, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/5/24 19:53, gene heskett wrote: On 6/5/24 17:25, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/5/24 08:58, gene heskett wrote: On 6/5/24 02:05, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/4/24 04:26, gene heskett wrote: On 2/19/22 06:31, Andrew M.A. Cater

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-07 Thread gene heskett
On 6/7/24 18:12, David Christensen wrote: On 6/6/24 22:14, gene heskett wrote: In experimenting I've found a name clash, there are appprently two orca's. one is a speech synth, one is a slicer for 3d printers I don't use. Typing orca in a shell locks the shell wo any output, for several

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-07 Thread David Christensen
On 6/6/24 22:14, gene heskett wrote: In experimenting I've found a name clash, there are appprently two orca's. one is a speech synth, one is a slicer for 3d printers I don't use. Typing orca in a shell locks the shell wo any output, for several minutes but comes back to a prompt with a ctl-c,

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-07 Thread gene heskett
On 6/7/24 14:15, mick.crane wrote: On 2024-06-07 12:32, gene heskett wrote: Where did you get that beta trixie installer? bookworm does not allow that removal of orca without also removing gnome. brltty yes, but not orca. I don't think I've got any gnome stuff. here probably.

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-07 Thread mick.crane
On 2024-06-07 12:32, gene heskett wrote: Where did you get that beta trixie installer? bookworm does not allow that removal of orca without also removing gnome. brltty yes, but not orca. I don't think I've got any gnome stuff. here probably.

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-07 Thread gene heskett
On 6/7/24 07:16, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Jun 07, 2024 at 01:14:16AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: In experimenting I've found a name clash, there are appprently two orca's. one is a speech synth, one is a slicer for 3d printers I don't use. Oh! That sounds super relevant. I forgot to

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-07 Thread gene heskett
On 6/7/24 07:16, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Jun 07, 2024 at 01:14:16AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: In experimenting I've found a name clash, there are appprently two orca's. one is a speech synth, one is a slicer for 3d printers I don't use. Oh! That sounds super relevant. If you're not

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-07 Thread gene heskett
On 6/7/24 04:33, mick.crane wrote: On 2024-06-07 06:14, gene heskett wrote: So I took orca out, which took gnome out. But now gnomes dependencies will put orca back in. So now I can't run autoremove. So one more time this broken damned bookworm install has bit me in a rear. I delayed logging

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 07, 2024 at 01:14:16AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > In experimenting I've found a name clash, there are appprently two orca's. > one is a speech synth, one is a slicer for 3d printers I don't use. Oh! That sounds super relevant. If you're not using the second one, where did it come

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-07 Thread mick.crane
On 2024-06-07 06:14, gene heskett wrote: So I took orca out, which took gnome out. But now gnomes dependencies will put orca back in. So now I can't run autoremove. So one more time this broken damned bookworm install has bit me in a rear. I delayed logging in after starting the PC some time

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-06 Thread gene heskett
On 6/6/24 19:00, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/5/24 19:53, gene heskett wrote: On 6/5/24 17:25, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/5/24 08:58, gene heskett wrote: On 6/5/24 02:05, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/4/24 04:26, gene heskett wrote: On 2/19/22 06:31, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Hi Gene, If this was someone

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-06 Thread gene heskett
On 6/6/24 17:57, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/5/24 19:53, gene heskett wrote: On 6/5/24 17:25, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/5/24 08:58, gene heskett wrote: On 6/5/24 02:05, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/4/24 04:26, gene heskett wrote: On 2/19/22 06:31, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Hi Gene, If this was someone

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-06 Thread Tom Dial
On 6/5/24 19:53, gene heskett wrote: On 6/5/24 17:25, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/5/24 08:58, gene heskett wrote: On 6/5/24 02:05, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/4/24 04:26, gene heskett wrote: On 2/19/22 06:31, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Hi Gene, If this was someone calling you from a TV station

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-06 Thread Anssi Saari
gene heskett writes: > But that still doesn't answer the question, How much longer till > trixie is official? I even put a ? mark on it. About a year since bookworm is now about a year old and Debian releases are about two years apart. Which reminds me, I've only updated two of my six Buster

Re: about 10th new install of bookworm!

2024-06-05 Thread Felix Miata
gene heskett composed on 2024-06-05 22:08 (UTC-0400): > Felix Miata wrote: >> ...or disabling the motherboard's >> sound device in BIOS setup, whichever is applicable, before beginning >> installation, as a possible thwart to the Gnome must have everything >> paradigm, if >> blocking Gnome

Re: about 10th new install of bookworm!

2024-06-05 Thread gene heskett
On 6/5/24 21:05, Felix Miata wrote: gene heskett composed on 2024-06-05 11:21 (UTC-0400): I always get re-install instructions. Frustrating. Should you choose to accept any fresh installation suggestion by doing another, consider removing the sound card from its slot, or disabling the

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-05 Thread gene heskett
On 6/5/24 17:25, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/5/24 08:58, gene heskett wrote: On 6/5/24 02:05, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/4/24 04:26, gene heskett wrote: On 2/19/22 06:31, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Hi Gene, If this was someone calling you from a TV station saying they had a TV transmitter that was

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye BUT its not Bullseye, its bookworm!

2024-06-05 Thread David Christensen
On 6/5/24 08:21, gene heskett wrote:> But in asking how to get rid of [orca], the subject is always changed and I always get re-install instructions. Because that is the most practical and correct answer for your situation; especially given the disk access issues. AIUI assistive

Re: about 10th new install of bookworm!

2024-06-05 Thread Felix Miata
gene heskett composed on 2024-06-05 11:21 (UTC-0400): > I always get re-install instructions. Frustrating. Should you choose to accept any fresh installation suggestion by doing another, consider removing the sound card from its slot, or disabling the motherboard's sound device in BIOS setup,

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-05 Thread Tom Dial
On 6/5/24 08:58, gene heskett wrote: On 6/5/24 02:05, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/4/24 04:26, gene heskett wrote: On 2/19/22 06:31, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Hi Gene, If this was someone calling you from a TV station saying they had a TV transmitter that was varying in power output - you'd have

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-05 Thread gene heskett
On 6/5/24 13:12, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 06:26:31AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 2/19/22 06:31, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Hi Gene, You could try apt-get remove (or equivalent) on each of those packages and see if that clears it. I _know_ this is frustrating as all get

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye BUT its not Bullseye, its bookworm!

2024-06-05 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 Jun 2024 at 11:21:04 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > I have removed orca by removing its exec bits. But the system then > will not reboot, waiting forever for orca to start. The only recovery > possible is a re-install, which accounts for about the first 23 > installs. But just like

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-05 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 06:26:31AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 2/19/22 06:31, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Hi Gene, > > > > You could try apt-get remove (or equivalent) on each of those packages and > > see if that clears it. I _know_ this is frustrating as all get out for you > > but a clear

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 05, 2024 at 11:47:02AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > As long as you don't do an "apt-get autoremove" afterward, nothing else > > will be deleted, other than what apt-get told you it was going to delete. > > > autoremove is the first command of my update script. Designed to get rid of

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-05 Thread gene heskett
On 6/5/24 11:18, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jun 05, 2024 at 10:58:22AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: Any attempt to remove cura or brltty, removes gnome leaving me I assume with a text only system by the time gnome takes all its dependency's with it. "assume" This is your fundamental problem

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye BUT its not Bullseye, its bookworm!

2024-06-05 Thread gene heskett
On 6/5/24 02:30, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/4/24 04:26, gene heskett wrote: On 2/19/22 06:31, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Hi Gene, If this was someone calling you from a TV station saying they had a TV transmitter that was varying in power output - you'd have a mental checklist. You'd get down

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 05, 2024 at 10:58:22AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Any attempt to remove cura or brltty, removes gnome leaving me I assume with > a text only system by the time gnome takes all its dependency's with it. "assume" This is your fundamental problem here. Do you know what the "gnome"

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-05 Thread gene heskett
On 6/5/24 02:05, Tom Dial wrote: On 6/4/24 04:26, gene heskett wrote: On 2/19/22 06:31, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Hi Gene, If this was someone calling you from a TV station saying they had a TV transmitter that was varying in power output - you'd have a mental checklist. You'd get down

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-05 Thread Felix Miata
Tom Dial composed on 2024-06-05 00:05 (UTC-0600): > gene heskett wrote: >> How much longer till trixie is officially out??  What you are proposing >> sounds like several days work, and i have other irons in the fire. This >> release has been such a disaster for me because the install insists

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-05 Thread Tom Dial
On 6/4/24 04:26, gene heskett wrote: On 2/19/22 06:31, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Hi Gene, If this was someone calling you from a TV station saying they had a TV transmitter that was varying in power output - you'd have a mental checklist. You'd get down there, perhaps schedule some sort of

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-04 Thread David Christensen
https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user%40lists.debian.org/msg779582.html Gene Heskett Fri, 18 Feb 2022 09:14:03 -0800 > On 2/19/22 06:31, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On 6/4/24 03:26, gene heskett wrote: How much longer till trixie is officially out??  What you are proposing sounds like

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-04 Thread Felix Miata
gene heskett composed on 2024-06-04 06:26 (UTC-0400): > This release has been such a disaster for me because the install insists on > installing and configuring orca and brltty w/o asking. I've done 40 some > installs now, trying to stop it from wasting about a second while its > yelling every

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-04 Thread gene heskett
On 2/19/22 06:31, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Hi Gene, If this was someone calling you from a TV station saying they had a TV transmitter that was varying in power output - you'd have a mental checklist. You'd get down there, perhaps schedule some sort of power down / reduced power operation and

Re: new install: configuring ethernet strangeness

2022-06-18 Thread Felix Miata
John Covici composed on 2022-06-18 04:21 (UTC-0400): > Hi. I just installed Debian Bullseye on a refurbished computer which > I am going to use as a voip server. Now, due to my ignorance, at the > very end of the install, I selected to use #12 which said standard > system items. > Well, to my

Re: new install: configuring ethernet strangeness

2022-06-18 Thread John Covici
Thanks everyone, this is what I think I will do, just use network/interfaces. On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 08:00:27 -0400, Anssi Saari wrote: > > John Covici writes: > > > So, how can I either get back to /etc/network/interfaces > > This should be simple enough. Uninstall NetworkManager, package >

Re: new install: configuring ethernet strangeness

2022-06-18 Thread Anssi Saari
John Covici writes: > So, how can I either get back to /etc/network/interfaces This should be simple enough. Uninstall NetworkManager, package network-manager, edit /etc/network/interfaces as you like. The networking.service is used to run ifup and ifdown to configure and reconfigure the

Re: new install: configuring ethernet strangeness

2022-06-18 Thread John Covici
I did not get that tasksel at all, at the end of the install I had 12 choices, 11 was ssh server and 12 was standard system components and by mistake I chose 12. I cannot use the gui, I need speech to read the screen and I don't want all that bloat running on a voip server. What if I just put a

Re: new install: configuring ethernet strangeness

2022-06-18 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 04:21:35AM -0400, John Covici wrote: > Hi. I just installed Debian Bullseye on a refurbished computer which > I am going to use as a voip server. Now, due to my ignorance, at the > very end of the install, I selected to use #12 which said standard > system items. > >

Re: new install: configuring ethernet strangeness

2022-06-18 Thread john doe
On 6/18/2022 10:21 AM, John Covici wrote: Hi. I just installed Debian Bullseye on a refurbished computer which I am going to use as a voip server. Now, due to my ignorance, at the very end of the install, I selected to use #12 which said standard system items. Well, to my horror, I got gnome

new install: configuring ethernet strangeness

2022-06-18 Thread John Covici
Hi. I just installed Debian Bullseye on a refurbished computer which I am going to use as a voip server. Now, due to my ignorance, at the very end of the install, I selected to use #12 which said standard system items. Well, to my horror, I got gnome with all its dependencies. I ran apt-get

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-22 Thread Charles Kroeger
replace the GPU card Gene it's kaput. C

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-20 Thread David Wright
On Sun 20 Feb 2022 at 07:47:57 (+0100), john doe wrote: > On 2/19/2022 9:03 PM, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 20:46:03 (-0800), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Since last post, I found the install logs, and BRLTTY is listed in the > > > hardware file, as if its a mobo feature. And

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-19 Thread john doe
On 2/19/2022 9:03 PM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 20:46:03 (-0800), Gene Heskett wrote: Since last post, I found the install logs, and BRLTTY is listed in the hardware file, as if its a mobo feature. And reading the DIY Guid from Asus, there is a tools menu where some stiff that

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-19 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, February 19, 2022 6:59:52 PM EST David Christensen wrote: > On 2/18/22 22:15, Felix Miata wrote: > > David Christensen composed on 2022-02-18 21:38 (UTC-0800): > >> 4. Do the simplest install of the OS of choice onto the SSD, using > >> BIOS, MBR, and partitioning the OS drive such

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-19 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, February 18, 2022 3:19:43 PM EST David Wright wrote: > On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 09:15:50 (-0800), Gene Heskett wrote: > > Two problems: > > > > terminals went funkity late tuesday, spent Wed-Thu trying to reboot, > > would not go beyond the 15 second mark rebooting. Finally ran the > >

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-19 Thread David Christensen
On 2/18/22 22:15, Felix Miata wrote: David Christensen composed on 2022-02-18 21:38 (UTC-0800): 4. Do the simplest install of the OS of choice onto the SSD, using BIOS, MBR, and partitioning the OS drive such that the system image fits onto "16 GB" devices with room to spare -- 1 GB ext4

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-19 Thread David Wright
On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 20:46:03 (-0800), Gene Heskett wrote: > Since last post, I found the install logs, and BRLTTY is listed in the > hardware file, as if its a mobo feature. And reading the DIY Guid from Asus, > there is a tools menu where some stiff that is not list, can be controlled so >

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-19 Thread Curt
On 2022-02-18, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 07:41:01PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >> In something of 150 or more installs of bullseye - we do a bunch with >> each release of images with a point release - I don't think I've ever >> seen brltty installed "by accident"

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-19 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Hi Gene, If this was someone calling you from a TV station saying they had a TV transmitter that was varying in power output - you'd have a mental checklist. You'd get down there, perhaps schedule some sort of power down / reduced power operation and then you'd check - power supplies, feeder

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread Felix Miata
David Christensen composed on 2022-02-18 21:38 (UTC-0800): > 4. Do the simplest install of the OS of choice onto the SSD, using > BIOS, MBR, and partitioning the OS drive such that the system image fits > onto "16 GB" devices with room to spare -- 1 GB ext4 boot, 1 GB > encrypted swap, 12 GB

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread David Christensen
On 2/18/22 09:15, Gene Heskett wrote: Two problems: terminals went funkity late tuesday, spent Wed-Thu trying to reboot, would not go beyond the 15 second mark rebooting. Finally ran the net installer in rescue mode, copied my 122gb /home dir, on a 1.9T raid10 to a different drive and

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Fri, 18 Feb, 2022 at 10:55 PM, David Wright wrote: To: debian-user@lists.debian.org On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 18:37:01 (-0800), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Fri, 18 Feb, 2022 at 9:11 PM, David Wright > mailto:deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk>> wrote: > On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 19:48:40 (-0500), Cindy Sue

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, February 18, 2022 09:14:00 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 08:08:21PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > I'm not sure what's eyebrow-raising about 122GB under /home. > > unicorn:~$ df -h /home > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/sda823G 17G

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread David Wright
On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 18:37:01 (-0800), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Fri, 18 Feb, 2022 at 9:11 PM, David Wright > wrote: > On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 19:48:40 (-0500), Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > > That presents a detail that's not clear on Gene's case. Is the > > computer just stopping and standing at

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread David Wright
On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 21:18:32 (-0500), The Wanderer wrote: > On 2022-02-18 at 21:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 08:08:21PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > >> I'm not sure what's eyebrow-raising about 122GB under /home. > > > > unicorn:~$ df -h /home > > Filesystem

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Fri, 18 Feb, 2022 at 9:30 PM, David Wright wrote: To: debian-user@lists.debian.org On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 18:13:02 (-0800), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Fri, 18 Feb, 2022 at 7:41 PM, Greg Wooledge > mailto:g...@wooledge.org>> wrote: > > > To:

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Fri, 18 Feb, 2022 at 9:11 PM, David Wright wrote: To: debian-user@lists.debian.org On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 19:48:40 (-0500), Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 2/18/22, Felix Miata mailto:mrma...@earthlink.net>> > wrote: > > David Wright composed on 2022-02-18 14:19 (UTC-0600): > >> On Fri 18 Feb

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread David Wright
On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 18:13:02 (-0800), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Fri, 18 Feb, 2022 at 7:41 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 07:21:19PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > David Wright composed on 2022-02-18 14:19 (UTC-0600): > > > > > On Fri

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-02-18 at 21:14, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 08:08:21PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > >> I'm not sure what's eyebrow-raising about 122GB under /home. > > unicorn:~$ df -h /home > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/sda823G 17G 5.0G 78%

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 08:08:21PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > I'm not sure what's eyebrow-raising about 122GB under /home. unicorn:~$ df -h /home Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda823G 17G 5.0G 78% /home

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread David Wright
On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 19:48:40 (-0500), Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 2/18/22, Felix Miata wrote: > > David Wright composed on 2022-02-18 14:19 (UTC-0600): > >> On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 09:15:50 (-0800), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > >>> Two problems: > > > >>> terminals went funkity late tuesday, spent

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Fri, 18 Feb, 2022 at 7:41 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: To: debian-user@lists.debian.org On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 07:21:19PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2022-02-18 14:19 (UTC-0600): > > > On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 09:15:50 (-0800), Gene Heskett wrote: > > >> Two problems: >

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread David Wright
On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 19:41:01 (+), Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 09:15:50AM -0800, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Two problems: > > > > terminals went funkity late tuesday, spent Wed-Thu trying to reboot, would > > not go beyond the 15 second mark rebooting. Finally ran the

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 2/18/22, Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2022-02-18 14:19 (UTC-0600): > >> On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 09:15:50 (-0800), Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Two problems: > >>> terminals went funkity late tuesday, spent Wed-Thu trying to reboot, >>> would not go beyond the 15 second mark

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 07:21:19PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2022-02-18 14:19 (UTC-0600): > > > On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 09:15:50 (-0800), Gene Heskett wrote: > > >> Two problems: > > >> terminals went funkity late tuesday, spent Wed-Thu trying to reboot, would > >> not

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2022-02-18 14:19 (UTC-0600): > On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 09:15:50 (-0800), Gene Heskett wrote: >> Two problems: >> terminals went funkity late tuesday, spent Wed-Thu trying to reboot, would >> not go beyond the 15 second mark rebooting. Finally ran the net installer in >>

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread David Wright
On Fri 18 Feb 2022 at 09:15:50 (-0800), Gene Heskett wrote: > Two problems: > > terminals went funkity late tuesday, spent Wed-Thu trying to reboot, would > not go beyond the 15 second mark rebooting. Finally ran the net installer in > rescue mode, copied my 122gb /home dir, on a 1.9T raid10 to

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 07:41:01PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > In something of 150 or more installs of bullseye - we do a bunch with > each release of images with a point release - I don't think I've ever > seen brltty installed "by accident" so I'd love to know exactly what you > do

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 09:15:50AM -0800, Gene Heskett wrote: > Two problems: > > > terminals went funkity late tuesday, spent Wed-Thu trying to reboot, would > not go beyond the 15 second mark rebooting. Finally ran the net installer in > rescue mode, copied my 122gb /home dir, on a 1.9T

about 10th new install of bullseye

2022-02-18 Thread Gene Heskett
Two problems: terminals went funkity late tuesday, spent Wed-Thu trying to reboot, would not go beyond the 15 second mark rebooting. Finally ran the net installer in rescue mode, copied my 122gb /home dir, on a 1.9T raid10 to a different drive and reinstalled, then copied it back, but kmail

[Solved] (Was: Re: help new install debian via WiFi)

2021-09-14 Thread 황병희
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI writes: > On 13/09/2021 09:45, 황병희 wrote: >> Hellow! Eduardo^^^ >> Eduardo M KALINOWSKI writes: >> >>> Try the installer with non-free firmware, pretty much all Wi-Fi cards >>> require non-free firmware: >>>

Re: help new install debian via WiFi

2021-09-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
and fail and so on... > > so i did open chromebook and Gnus. > > How can i connect WiFi zone (not DHCP) at new install (Debian 11)? Hello, When you copied the mini.iso to the stick it should have created a FAT partition that you can use to provide the necessary firmware to the installer,

Re: help new install debian via WiFi

2021-09-13 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 13/09/2021 09:45, 황병희 wrote: Hellow! Eduardo^^^ Eduardo M KALINOWSKI writes: Try the installer with non-free firmware, pretty much all Wi-Fi cards require non-free firmware: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ Wow you are my hero! How can i

Re: help new install debian via WiFi

2021-09-13 Thread 황병희
Hellow! Eduardo^^^ Eduardo M KALINOWSKI writes: > Try the installer with non-free firmware, pretty much all Wi-Fi cards > require non-free firmware: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ Wow you are my hero! How can i input the file into *the usb

Re: help new install debian via WiFi

2021-09-13 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
2021-09-13 17:28 GMT+05:00, 황병희 : > How can i connect WiFi zone (not DHCP) at new install (Debian 11)? Try https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/ It's help me on Lenovo netbook and many HP servers. -- Stanislav

Re: help new install debian via WiFi

2021-09-13 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
) at new install (Debian 11)? Try the installer with non-free firmware, pretty much all Wi-Fi cards require non-free firmware: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ -- 'Back in the USSR' musica dos Beatles, por John Lenin e Ringo Stalin. Eduardo M

help new install debian via WiFi

2021-09-13 Thread 황병희
. How can i connect WiFi zone (not DHCP) at new install (Debian 11)? Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

Re: Two questions as I prepare for a new install

2020-12-09 Thread David Wright
On Wed 09 Dec 2020 at 19:10:53 (+), Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 06:06:43PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 00:00:54 + Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > > > 1. Does anyone have any advice (or a link to offcial advice) > > > regarding whether a new bullseye

Re: Two questions as I prepare for a new install

2020-12-09 Thread Joe
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 19:10:53 + Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 06:06:43PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 00:00:54 + > > Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > > > 1. Does anyone have any advice (or a link to offcial advice) > > > regarding whether a new

Re: Two questions as I prepare for a new install

2020-12-09 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, Dec 07, 2020 at 06:06:43PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 00:00:54 + > Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > 1. Does anyone have any advice (or a link to offcial advice) > > regarding whether a new bullseye install is better done with the > > testing installer at this time,

Re: Two questions as I prepare for a new install

2020-12-08 Thread Tixy
On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 11:48 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 07 dec 20, 18:06:43, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 00:00:54 + > > Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > > > 1. Does anyone have any advice (or a link to offcial advice) > > > regarding whether a new bullseye install is

Re: Two questions as I prepare for a new install

2020-12-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 07 dec 20, 18:06:43, Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 00:00:54 + > Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > 1. Does anyone have any advice (or a link to offcial advice) > > regarding whether a new bullseye install is better done with the > > testing installer at this time, or by first

Re: Two questions as I prepare for a new install

2020-12-07 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 00:00:54 + Mark Fletcher wrote: > 1. Does anyone have any advice (or a link to offcial advice) > regarding whether a new bullseye install is better done with the > testing installer at this time, or by first installing buster and > then upgrading? In general, you are

Two questions as I prepare for a new install

2020-12-07 Thread Mark Fletcher
Hello list I am currently amassing the hardware for a new PC build as a Christmas present to myself, and plan to install Bullseye on it when the hardware is all here. My current system runs Buster and I thought it would be interesting to see what's coming. I have two questions: 1. Does

Re: Debian 10.4 blank screen After new install

2020-07-22 Thread David Wright
On Tue 21 Jul 2020 at 22:25:57 (-0500), Edward M Kent wrote: > Hello All, I am an old Nube trying to get set up to use a Beaglebone on > some projects. I thought I had a successful install after a list of tasks > was displayed down the screen's left hand edge. Those "tasks" are the bootable

Debian 10.4 blank screen After new install

2020-07-22 Thread echo test
Hello, That blank screen means your hardware has not found the way to load your boot partition. Verify your BIOS configuration. Try toggling between UEFI and MBR assuming your bootable device is ok. Le mer. 22 juil. 2020 à 05:20, Edward M Kent a écrit : > Hello All, I am an old Nube trying

Re: Debian 10.4 blank screen After new install

2020-07-21 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
Glad to hear it! On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 12:57, Edward M Kent wrote: > > Thanks Umarzuki, I will take your advice and make a bootable repair disk > tomorrow. Too late tonight. I used f10 on reboot and now have win10. > Mick > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 10:33 PM Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: >> >> On

Re: Debian 10.4 blank screen After new install

2020-07-21 Thread Edward M Kent
Thanks Umarzuki, I will take your advice and make a bootable repair disk tomorrow. Too late tonight. I used f10 on reboot and now have win10. Mick On Tue, Jul 21, 2020, 10:33 PM Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 11:21, Edward M Kent wrote: > > > > Hello All, I am an old

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