Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > 1. What is latest i386 live image available in some archive? I guess: https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/11.9.0-live/i386/iso-hybrid/ At least the pages for archived Live ISOs for Debian 12 list no i386 any more:

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

On 06/21/2024 09:59 PM, Max Nikulin wrote: On 21/06/2024 11:39, David Christensen wrote: On 6/20/24 19:10, Max Nikulin wrote: On 20/06/2024 12:06, David Christensen wrote: You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive. lsblk --fs perhaps with "-o +SIZE" may be more

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

> On 20 Jun 2024, at 20:52, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 22:56:33 +0530, Pranjal Singh wrote: >>> It runs regular Firefox after adding the -private-window flag. >>> >>> To get a MWE, I made these changes later: >>> - Exec=firefox

Switch user causes screen to go blank

Greetings, When ones does a switch user from the application launch button then the screen goes blank and it stays that way until re-booted. This seems to have been introduced in Debian 12. Looking around there is no fix to this, only work arounds of varying effectiveness. One work around

Re: [HS] eruptions solaires

On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 01:11:48AM +0200, hamster wrote a message of 43 lines which said: > Les scénarios catastrophe avec les éruptions solaires c'est que ca > peut modifier temporairement le champ magnétique terrestre et ainsi > provoquer par induction de forts courants dans le sol et dans

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 21/6/24 14:28, David Wright wrote: You could pronounce your time written above as: "It's Thu 20Jun2024 at 20:51:19 here, where clocks are UTC+10:00" Excellent. Now how do we get our MUA to do that when replying to mail, which is where I saw what I thought was a system error - but in

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 20/6/24 21:19, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-06-20 at 07:10, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 21:00:38 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/manpages-dev/strftime.3.en.html is a list of place names for MANY parts of a date layout. I have set up

Re: RTC, was Re: System time/timezone

On 20/6/24 11:51, Max Nikulin wrote: On 20/06/2024 02:16, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: Servers in data centers don't move around, they just sit there :-) So in my experience servers running anything non-windows have RTC set to local time. That's been on Red Hat/CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu. My

Re: [HS] eruptions solaires

De toutes façon si ça interfère avec tous les réseaux, comme expliqué par Hamster, Ton disque dur ne sera certainement pas touché directement. Mais si tout ça est connecté à une alimentation électrique et/ou à un réseau cuivre (ADSL) à l’extérieur de ta maison. Il y aura certainement des

Re: time display was: Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 18/6/24 00:56, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 16/6/24 23:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 06:13:36PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: It was late afternoon on 16Jun2024 that I wrote this. Possibly 18:13:36 when I pressed send. I'd reckon it

Re: Time, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 18/6/24 03:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: And I can never remember if the dot means AM or PM.  I suspect it changes between implementations, or maybe I'm just very slow. Probably only really meant to show us when we are setting an alarm at night, for the morning, that the dot is on one and off

Re: Time, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 18/6/24 01:36, David Wright wrote: Along with 350M Americans! They even use just A and P over here. And a mere dot on digital clocks. (I see you've changed it already!) I've been using 24 hour time and dMMM for a long time. I used send international cheques as part of my work, and

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 18/6/24 21:02, Greg Wooledge wrote: In a previous message, you thought that your system clock or your time zone was set wrong, because you read one of the attribution lines of one of my replies, and you thought it said you had sent your message at the wrong time. As it turns out, I'm

Re: [HS] eruptions solaires

Le Sat, 22 Jun 2024 01:11:48 +0200, hamster a écrit : > Mais les disques durs n'ayant pas des dimentions qui se comptent en > centaines de kilomètres, ils ne seront pas impactés. Merci beaucoup pour l'explication.

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 10:22:53AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: [...] > I think, you are biased treating "system" as tightly built-in while most of > others assume "system-wide". Taking your bias out ("you are biased" -- "most of others") I'd tend to agree :-) You do have a point. Coming from

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

On 19/06/2024 16:27, Julien Petit wrote: Does it have some logic to avoid descending into bind mounts? Maybe I am wrong with my expectation that it does not use anything besides st_dev from stat result. It may be promising case to demonstrate the issue in a way independent of systemd and

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 21/06/2024 11:45, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:32:10AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: On 20/06/2024 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: "the system's time zone" (of which some, me included, say "there's no such thing", and others disagree  What term is appropriate in your

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

On 21/06/2024 11:39, David Christensen wrote: On 6/20/24 19:10, Max Nikulin wrote: On 20/06/2024 12:06, David Christensen wrote: You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive. lsblk --fs perhaps with "-o +SIZE" may be more convenient to get overview of drives. The

Re: About dash as sh

> When the shell is using standard input and it invokes a command that > also uses standard input, the shell shall ensure that the standard > input file pointer points directly after the command it has read when > the command begins execution. > > But I consider this clause is misguided,

Re: [HS] eruptions solaires

Le 20/06/2024 à 22:06, Haricophile a écrit : Et à propos de radioactivité naturelle, j'ai oui dire qu'il y aurait un risque d'intense éruption solaire dans l'année qui vient. Ils ont protégés les disques ou pas ? Quand le télégraphe marche tout seul sans alimentation c'est pas trop grave vu la

Re: Evolution & ThunderBird

Am 21.06.2024 um 13:57:11 Uhr schrieb CHRIS M: > And I like how for POP3 accounts, each email is stored as an > individual file, vs being shoved into a binary .mbx file that could > get corrupted at any time! This is possible for IMAP too, e.g. with the Maildir format. -- Gruß Marco Send

Re: Evolution & ThunderBird

On Wednesday 19 June 2024 04:00:44 pm Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > My brain keeps wanting to note that e.g. Gmail used to make us jump > through painful hoops to use desktop programs like Evolution. That > didn't happen for me this time, but maybe other email providers still > have the detail that

Re: About dash as sh

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:43:52 -0700, Mike Castle wrote: > On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 4:57 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > That's why I find it frustrating when someone claims that this bug is > > so severe that Debian has to *change their policy* without even describing > > how this bug is affecting

Re: About dash as sh

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 4:57 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > That's why I find it frustrating when someone claims that this bug is > so severe that Debian has to *change their policy* without even describing > how this bug is affecting them in real life. I did not feel like the OP was saying the bug

Re: can't connect to eduroam due to SSL3 unsupported protocol

Hello On 2024-06-17 16:14, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2024-06-17 08:26:39 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: On stable: $ openssl list -disabled Disabled algorithms: IDEA MD2 MDC2 RC5 SCTP SSL3 ZLIB So, SSL3 support was removed at least that long ago. I think it was actually dropped around 2016.

Re: About dash as sh

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 13:44:35 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Greg Wooledge (12024-06-21): > > The original message began with the assertion that the OP had run > > across a bug in dash, and gave two URLs, with no description of the bug > > or the impact it was having on their life. > > > > I

Re: About dash as sh

Greg Wooledge (12024-06-21): > The original message began with the assertion that the OP had run > across a bug in dash, and gave two URLs, with no description of the bug > or the impact it was having on their life. > > I read one of the URLs, and the bug is rather obscure. It involves a >

Re: About dash as sh

The original message began with the assertion that the OP had run across a bug in dash, and gave two URLs, with no description of the bug or the impact it was having on their life. I read one of the URLs, and the bug is rather obscure. It involves a second script embedded inside a here document

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 23:17:42 -0500, David Wright wrote: > And what am I to call the time that a system > issues using that system default time zone? If you mean the current time translated into that time zone, "local time" is the traditional name for it. If you mean an arbitrary past time,

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

Julien Petit wrote: > How Linux is supposed to be used? That's why i'm here. There wasn't > until kernel 4.19 an official limit to the number of mounts in the > documentation. Even though we use mounts a lot, we're still far from > the official limit. Did we get lucky for 15 years and we should

Re: About dash as sh

On 21 Jun 2024 00:28 +0200, from ilya.kazakev...@jetbrains.com (Ilya Kazakevich): > [...] honestly, I can't imagine how bash > could be a bottleneck for anything in 2024 (if you have such > scenarios, please share). Debian doesn't target only desktops and servers, where your assertion is quite

Re: suggestion of upgrade to 12

That's the beauty of Debian. If the dev doesn't backport a fix, the maintainer might. It's not uncommon. On Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 22:38 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > One additional data point to consider... there are folks who have > exploits written for vulnerabilities that the community does not know

how to use xfonts-intl-chinese

i have installed it for bookworm but firefox can't display Chinese characters on pages at debian.org https://www.debian.org/index.zh-cn.html https://www.debian.org/index.zh-hk.html https://www.debian.org/index.zh-tw.html

Re: About dash as sh

bash is still 10x larger than dash: $ ls -l /bin/[bd]ash -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1265648 Apr 23 2023 /bin/bash -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 125640 Jan 5 2023 /bin/dash I would not be surprised if that impacts things like initrd and other resource constrained environments. Generally speaking,

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 11:17:42PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 20 Jun 2024 at 22:58:53 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:32:10 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > On 20/06/2024 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > Well, that's a mouthful. And what am I to call

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:32:10AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 20/06/2024 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > "the system's > > time zone" (of which some, me included, say "there's no such thing", > > and others disagree  > > What term is appropriate in your opinion do describe the setting

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

On 6/20/24 19:10, Max Nikulin wrote: On 20/06/2024 12:06, David Christensen wrote: You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive. lsblk --fs perhaps with "-o +SIZE" may be more convenient to get overview of drives. The debian-11.9.0-amd64-netinst rescue shell does not

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 09:33:22PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: [...] > This is (one) reason why using undocumented features is a Bad Thing™. It doesn't seem to be "undocumented": on the contrary, it's rather "overdocumented" (two different ways in two different places), but thanks to some

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Thu 20 Jun 2024 at 21:00:38 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 17/6/24 18:26, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > > > It was late afternoon on 16Jun2024 that I wrote this. Possibly > > 18:13:36 when I pressed send. I'd reckon it would likely have been > > 08:13:36 UTC  What's wrong with my system

Re: UEFI secure boot issue

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 3:57 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 9:23 AM Bhasker C V wrote: > > > > I generated a pr/pk pair and the kernel is signed. Placed them in the > > kernel tree and compiled the kernel. > > I don't think you are supposed to check-in/compile-in the

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Thu 20 Jun 2024 at 22:58:53 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:32:10 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 20/06/2024 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > "the system's > > > time zone" (of which some, me included, say "there's no such thing", > > > and others disagree  > >

Re: How to recover when monitor goes blank.

Ram Ramesh composed on 2024-06-20 22:58 (UTC-0400): >> Did you try 'e' as I suggested, or read that page? From there: >> [quote] >> 'e' will force the display to be enabled, i.e. it will override the detection >> if a display is connected. >> [/quote] > Ok, I will try it, but that is a reboot.

Re: How to recover when monitor goes blank.

Did you try 'e' as I suggested, or read that page? From there: [quote] 'e' will force the display to be enabled, i.e. it will override the detection if a display is connected. [/quote] Ok, I will try it, but that is a reboot. I guess if I booted with that switch, it will always be on and I

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 09:32:10 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 20/06/2024 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > "the system's > > time zone" (of which some, me included, say "there's no such thing", > > and others disagree  > > What term is appropriate in your opinion do describe the setting

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 20/06/2024 11:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: "the system's time zone" (of which some, me included, say "there's no such thing", and others disagree  What term is appropriate in your opinion do describe the setting stored as the /etc/localtime symlink? localtime(5) On 19/06/2024 11:37,

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

On 20/06/2024 12:06, David Christensen wrote: You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive. lsblk --fs perhaps with "-o +SIZE" may be more convenient to get overview of drives.

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

On 21/06/2024 00:26, Pranjal Singh wrote: What I've done is changing /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop: - Exec=firefox %u + Exec=firefox -private-window %u I also created a desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications, but that too didn't work. You may file a bug (if it does not exist

Re: Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

> This can be solved with ACLs. Instead of creating a bind mount, this process > that allows the user to share the directory can set an ACL and create a > symlink. For a few users maybe but not that easy when you have many thousands users (that on top do not have local accounts). We'd probably

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

> PS: if you maintain your own software and aren't able to find a way for your > user to do shares - especially while systems that most likely have such > functionality built-in out of the box surely exist, think Nextcloud etc - > that is covered by how Linux is supposed to be used, by

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

> At this point, I kinda doubt this issue has anything to do with Debian > itself, but will most likely be an issue/limitation of the Linux Kernel > itself. >From my latest tests, it seems to point that way. Kernel 5.4 came with a new mount API and it seems to break since then. During my

Re: How to recover when monitor goes blank.

Ram Ramesh composed on 2024-06-20 17:43 (UTC-0500): >> Not to recover, but to perhaps prevent, via kernel cmdline, one can direct >> the >> kernel which framebuffer mode to force-enable with video=, e.g.: >> video=2560x1440@60e >> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/modedb.txt >

Re: [HS] sauvegarde sur Disque Mécanique ou SSD

Le Wed, 19 Jun 2024 18:07:56 +0200, hamster a écrit : > Tu va donc acheter 2 disques, les remplir avec des trucs a > sauvegarder (videos, partitions, etc) tout copié en double. Une fois > qu'ils sont pleins, t'en achete 2 nouveaux pour continuer a > sauvegarder tes nouvelles vidéos personnelles

Re: How to recover when monitor goes blank.

Not to recover, but to perhaps prevent, via kernel cmdline, one can direct the kernel which framebuffer mode to force-enable with video=, e.g.: video=2560x1440@60e https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/modedb.txt -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,

About dash as sh

Hello, I've recently come across a bug in dash. https://lore.kernel.org/dash/CAMQsgbSZnEac=ETYnR6a_ysnAysaHThwY03pnoDxC=p5fqt...@mail.gmail.com/T This issue is known for 7 years: https://groups.google.com/g/linux.debian.bugs.dist/c/c6kRE-fhyuM Fix is 18 months old, but unfortunately not

Re: NVIDIA drivers issue: Bug that keeps presenting on kernel 6.1.0-21

Daniel Rodriguez writes: > The solution of the post to this issue is to update the kernel from > 6.1.0-13 -> 6.1.0.18; however, my kernel is a later version: > 6.1.0-21-amd64, so I am stuck for solving this issue. Do you have any > idea about what may be happening and/or how to solve it? I

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 20:55:12 +0100 debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Hello debian-u...@howorth.org.uk, >or just try it! It works pefectly well with a single hyphen. Now, yes. However, at some point, that may no longer be the case. When (perhaps) somebody notices that actually behaviour

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

> > > Assuming that's not a typo, please try: > > > > > > --private-window > > > > Yep. Asking firefox itself (firefox --help) confirms that the > > option wants two dashes. > > See https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/CommandLineOptions#-private-window > > or just try it! It works pefectly well

Re: How to recover when monitor goes blank.

Ram Ramesh composed on 2024-06-19 15:45 (UTC-0500): >   I have my monitor, keyboard and mouse shared through a KVM switch. > One host is Linux Debian bookworm 12.5 and another is laptop running > Windows 11. When I leave KVM on the laptop side for extended period I > have issues switching

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

wrote: > On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 01:38:00AM +0100, Gareth Evans wrote: > > > > > On 17 Jun 2024, at 20:45, Pranjal Singh > > > wrote: > > > > > >  > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am trying to modify the Firefox desktop icon so that it opens > > > an incognito window by default. > > > > > > ... >

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 22:56:33 +0530, Pranjal Singh wrote: > > It runs regular Firefox after adding the -private-window flag. > > > > To get a MWE, I made these changes later: > > - Exec=firefox -private-window %u > > - StartupWMClass=firefox > > +Exec=gnome-calculator

Re: How to recover when monitor goes blank.

My Debian machines have Xfce. I configure Applications Menu -> Settings-> Power Manager -> Display -> Display power management -> Off. David This is not a dpms issue. This is the OS thinking that it is not attached to a monitor/KB.  I can remote login and remove dpms any time. Besides this

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 02:10:38PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 12:23 AM Gareth Evans wrote: > > > > On 17 Jun 2024, at 20:45, Pranjal Singh wrote: > > > > I am trying to modify the Firefox desktop icon so that it opens > > an incognito window by default. > > ... > > >

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 01:38:00AM +0100, Gareth Evans wrote: > > > On 17 Jun 2024, at 20:45, Pranjal Singh wrote: > > > >  > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to modify the Firefox desktop icon so that it opens > > an incognito window by default. > > > > ... > > > > - Exec=firefox %u > > +

Re: suggestion of upgrade to 12

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 11:09:35AM +0800, Jeff Peng wrote: > Hello, > > I am running a small mailserver with debian 11 for many years. It's quite > solid. > Though I have read this article: > https://www.cherryservers.com/blog/debian-12-bookworm-release > do you think there is any need for me to

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 12:23 AM Gareth Evans wrote: > > On 17 Jun 2024, at 20:45, Pranjal Singh wrote: > > I am trying to modify the Firefox desktop icon so that it opens > an incognito window by default. > ... > > - Exec=firefox %u > + Exec=firefox -private-window %u > > Assuming that's not a

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 22:56:33 +0530, Pranjal Singh wrote: > It runs regular Firefox after adding the -private-window flag. > > To get a MWE, I made these changes later: > - Exec=firefox -private-window %u > - StartupWMClass=firefox > +Exec=gnome-calculator Did you see Gareth's reply at

Re: Modifying Desktop Icons

Hi Eben, Sorry for the late reply. I realise I could've added more details. On 18/06/24 01:31, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 6/17/24 15:29, Pranjal Singh wrote: Hi, I am trying to modify the Firefox desktop icon so that it opens an incognito window by default. ... What I've done is changing

Re: suggestion of upgrade to 12

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 10:08 AM Richard wrote: > > The question with Linux isn't if there's a need to update to the latest > version (of the distro) like on Windows, but rather what's keeping you from > updating? If there's no urgent reason to stick to 11, update. 11 is now > oldstable and

Re: UEFI secure boot issue

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 9:23 AM Bhasker C V wrote: > > I generated a pr/pk pair and the kernel is signed. Placed them in the > kernel tree and compiled the kernel. I don't think you are supposed to check-in/compile-in the private key. It is usually supposed to stay private. > Could someone tell

Re: testing, various tmpfs /run directories, df -x tmpfs

David Wright wrote: > On Tue 18 Jun 2024 at 19:29:31 (-0400), songbird wrote: > >> "df -x tmpfs" does the magic and gives me the better view that is >> more useful. > > FWIW I define dfree as: > > df --output=source,ipcent,fstype,size,used,avail,pcent,target -B 100 -x > tmpfs -x devtmpfs -x

Re: MoinMoin wikis and Debian 11+

On 20/06/2024 08:21, Greg Wooledge wrote: As we're nearing the end of life for Debian 10, I'm still wondering what MoinMoin wiki users are supposed to do. (This includes as near as I can see from SystemInfo.) MoinMoin 1.x requires Python2, and Debian 11 and newer

Re: MoinMoin wikis and Debian 11+

Greg Wooledge wrote: > As we're nearing the end of life for Debian 10, I'm still wondering > what MoinMoin wiki users are supposed to do. (This includes > as near as I can see from SystemInfo.) ... > Or should we burn the entire site down, migrate to some other wiki

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

PS: if you maintain your own software and aren't able to find a way for your user to do shares - especially while systems that most likely have such functionality built-in out of the box surely exist, think Nextcloud etc - that is covered by how Linux is supposed to be used, by definition it's

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

Software is only tested to a certain degree. So mounts are tested to a sensible number, if you move outside it, you have to bet on luck if it's supported or not. At this point, I kinda doubt this issue has anything to do with Debian itself, but will most likely be an issue/limitation of the Linux

MoinMoin wikis and Debian 11+

As we're nearing the end of life for Debian 10, I'm still wondering what MoinMoin wiki users are supposed to do. (This includes as near as I can see from SystemInfo.) MoinMoin 1.x requires Python2, and Debian 11 and newer don't have Python2 any more. They only have

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 2024-06-20 at 07:10, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 21:00:38 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > >> https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/manpages-dev/strftime.3.en.html >> >> is a list of place names for MANY parts of a date layout. I have set up the >> following code in my text

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 21:00:38 +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/manpages-dev/strftime.3.en.html > > is a list of place names for MANY parts of a date layout. I have set up the > following code in my text substitution app: > "%a %d%b%Y at %H:%M:%S =UTC %Z" >

Re: suggestion of upgrade to 12

that's nice to know. thanks for all your help. about dovecot: if you have dovecot installed from the dovecot repository, then be aware that dovecot does not (yet) provide a version for bookworm. if you have dovecot installed from the debian repository, then you should be fine. about debian:

Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On 17/6/24 18:26, Keith Bainbridge wrote: It was late afternoon on 16Jun2024 that I wrote this. Possibly 18:13:36 when I pressed send. I'd reckon it would likely have been 08:13:36 UTC  What's wrong with my system clock. I've not really looked at the time on my originals before.  I'll try

Re: suggestion of upgrade to 12

The question with Linux isn't if there's a need to update to the latest version (of the distro) like on Windows, but rather what's keeping you from updating? If there's no urgent reason to stick to 11, update. 11 is now oldstable and will become oldoldstable mid next year. Thus, it currently

UEFI secure boot issue

Hi, I generated a pr/pk pair and the kernel is signed. Placed them in the kernel tree and compiled the kernel. Could someone tell me what am I doing wrong please ? Below is the status (I am using loader.efi from linuxfoundation) When i boot debian stock kernel signed, i see that the secure

Re: can't connect to eduroam due to SSL3 unsupported protocol

Am 20.06.2024 um 11:05:10 Uhr schrieb Vincent Lefevre: > I've got a confirmation that their Radius servers still use SSL3, > and they said that they could not upgrade them. Then they have very, very outdated stuff. Talk to the security department at your site, maybe they make them hurry up.

Re: can't connect to eduroam due to SSL3 unsupported protocol

On 2024-06-17 15:08:54 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2024-06-17 08:26:39 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > On stable: > > > $ openssl list -disabled > > > Disabled algorithms: > > > IDEA > > > MD2 > > > MDC2 > > > RC5 > > > SCTP > > > SSL3 > > > ZLIB > > > > > > So, SSL3

Re: suggestion of upgrade to 12

On Thursday, June 20, 2024 5:09:35 AM CEST, Jeff Peng wrote: I am running a small mailserver with debian 11 for many years. It's quite solid. Though I have read this article: https://www.cherryservers.com/blog/debian-12-bookworm-release do you think there is any need for me to upgrade from 11

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 01:22:31AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 12:52 AM wrote: [...] > > Please, keep those three at a safe distance > > I'm not sure how you can disgorge them given they contribute to a > human readable time. I wasn't arguing to disgorge anything --

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 12:52 AM wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 01:01:44PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 7:09 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [...] > > > > I strongly disagree. The system clock is kept on "epoch time", which > > > is the number of seconds since

Re: How to recover when monitor goes blank.

On 6/19/24 13:45, Ram Ramesh wrote: Hi,   I have my monitor, keyboard and mouse shared through a KVM switch. One host is Linux Debian bookworm 12.5 and another is laptop running Windows 11. When I leave KVM on the laptop side for extended period I have issues switching back to Debian side.

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

On 6/19/24 12:23, Heriberto Avelino wrote: On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 9:04 AM Heriberto Avelino wrote: Is it possible to mount an external hard drive while running Debian in rescue mode? Furthermore, the ultimate question is how could I copy folders from the computer's hard drive to the external

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 01:01:44PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 7:09 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > > I strongly disagree. The system clock is kept on "epoch time", which > > is the number of seconds since midnight, January 1, 1970 UTC. > > > > The system clock

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 01:23:01PM -0600, Heriberto Avelino wrote: > Thanks Eben and David! > I am now on a shell (BusyBox v.35.0 Debian 1:1.35.0-4+b3) > I don't see the mounting points to execute cp. As far as I know, you have dmesg in the rescue shell. So the way to go would be: - insert your

Re: suggestion of upgrade to 12

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 11:09:35 +0800, Jeff Peng wrote: > I am running a small mailserver with debian 11 for many years. It's quite > solid. > Though I have read this article: > https://www.cherryservers.com/blog/debian-12-bookworm-release > do you think there is any need for me to upgrade from

suggestion of upgrade to 12

Hello, I am running a small mailserver with debian 11 for many years. It's quite solid. Though I have read this article: https://www.cherryservers.com/blog/debian-12-bookworm-release do you think there is any need for me to upgrade from 11 to 12? just for the newer software like postfix,

Re: RTC, was Re: System time/timezone

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 02:16:14PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: Reading the link that Walton sent, the only case where RTC clock in UTC is recommended is in the linux/windows dual-boot case. There's no statement that RTC should be set to UTC besides that. And they say right there why it isn't

Re: dictd?

On 20/06/2024 00:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 22:15:20 +0500, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: In my system mode bits on my home dir are `drwx--` so only my user have access to it. Well, yeah. That's not a default setting 0700 is the current default. See

Re: RTC, was Re: System time/timezone

> If your system only boots one operating system, and never changes its > default time zone, then it makes no difference whether the RTC is set > to UTC or local time. The OS will use the same assumptions when reading > and writing to the RTC, so everything will remain correct. Of course, the

Re: RTC, was Re: System time/timezone

On 20/06/2024 02:16, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: Servers in data centers don't move around, they just sit there :-) So in my experience servers running anything non-windows have RTC set to local time. That's been on Red Hat/CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu. My experience with Ubuntu is that its installer

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

>> It's *theoretically* possible for some daemons to be configured to use >> a different time zone, or to be hard-coded to use UTC. I've never seen >> this, but it could be done. > In view of that, I think it's reasonable to drop the "default", > and go with "system time zone", ie the time zone

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

On 19/06/2024 19:06, Julien Petit wrote: It doesn't really matter where folders/mounts are. Users can share any directory (and subdirectories) in their home directory with any other user. The shared folder is mounted in the special directory "Shared with me" of the recipient home directory. I.e:

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

> For this, probably the easiest is to set up a common directory/a few common > directories, set up proper permissions through use of groups and worst case > create some symlinks from the user's home directories, if these directories > really need to be accessible from within their home

Re: Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

> Does it really have to be in the home directory? Can't the software (and/or > the users) open files in, say, /shared/accounting? It doesn't really matter where folders/mounts are. Users can share any directory (and subdirectories) in their home directory with any other user. The shared folder

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