Re: Trapped in Gnome

2019-09-12 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 9/11/19 8:41 AM, Thomas George wrote: At login after booting up there is a symbol like a gear below the password entry line. I moved the mouse and clicked on this symbol. Several options appeared and I decided to try Classic Gnome. This worked but the next time I booted up the mouse was froz

Re: PRoblems uninstalling nvidia

2019-09-12 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Thursday, 12 September 2019 04:44:50 CEST Carlos Kosloff wrote: > Probem is I cannot uninstall old version because dpkg halts: > > Welcome to the NVIDIA Software Installer for Unix/Linux uh, no. That's not dpkg, it Nvidia's own installer. You should ask this question on nvidia user forum. Al

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 12 September 2019 02:14:06 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > >> https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPiImages > >> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/ > > > > Potential timeline? > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > My RPI4 arrived as well - need to pick up also power

AW: Re: PRoblems uninstalling nvidia

2019-09-12 Thread 01793666059
The installer "NVidia-something-bla*.run" can be started with the --uninstall tag. Have fun Hans Am Thu, 12 Sep 2019 10:10:58 +0200, Dominique Dumont schrieb: On Thursday, 12 September 2019 04:44:50 CEST Carlos Kosloff wrote: > Probem is I cannot uninstall old version because dpkg halts

Re: Display resolution 3840x2160@24rb stopped working after Upgrade from Stretch to Buster

2019-09-12 Thread Torben Schou Jensen
Hi I have a kind of same problem. A monitor able of displaying at 1920x1080. Intel HD Graphics 620 with driver i915/modesetting. With old Stable (kernel 4.9.0-9) it was working fine. With new Stable (kernel 4.19.0-6) it set max display 1024x768. See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?

Re: Gnu sieve vs Dovecot sieve-filter - sieve-filter extremely slow at lda (writing emails to local mbox files)

2019-09-12 Thread elvis
eve-filter -veW -c /home/zen/etc/email/sieve-dovecot-config.conf -o mail_location=mbox:/home/zen/mail:INBOX=/home/zen/mail/Inbox:INDEX=:UTF-8:VOLATILEDIR=/tmp/dovecot-volatile/%2.256Nu/%u:SUBSCRIPTIONS=dovecot_subscriptions /home/zen/etc/email/sieve.rc email-incoming-unsorted # PS0 Timestamp: 2

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

2019-09-12 Thread Dan Ritter
David Wright wrote: > > What surprised me is the use of 12am and 12pm in the States. When > I was at grammar school (in the days of 12hour times), you lost > marks for writing either of these contradictions. It was either > 12 noon, 12 midnight, or 12 o'clock (where there's no ambiguity). 12 o'c

Re: Display resolution 3840x2160@24rb stopped working after Upgrade from Stretch to Buster

2019-09-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Jan Michael Greiner wrote: > Dear all, > > My laptop: Lenovo E520 > Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 3000 (kernel module i915) > > External display AOC U2879VF, 28 inch, connected by HDMI cable > > With Debian Stretch (9.8) I had the display running with 3840x2160 resolution > at 24Hz reduced blank

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

2019-09-12 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, September 12, 2019 06:30:21 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > Even more astonishing is the fact that the US Government switched > > their am/pm meanings sometime between 2000 and 2008, which shows > > just how ambiguous they are. Wow! I believe that, I just didn't realiz

Re: Trapped in Gnome

2019-09-12 Thread songbird
Thomas George wrote: > At login after booting up there is a symbol like a gear below the > password entry line. I moved the mouse and clicked on this symbol. > Several options appeared and I decided to try Classic Gnome. This worked > but the next time I booted up the mouse was frozen. The symbo

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

2019-09-12 Thread Curt
On 2019-09-12, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > But, ok, I'll try to burn that into my memory -- at night (when it is dark) > 12:00 (midnight) is the beginning of morning (12:00 am). During the day, > when > it is light 12:00 (noon) is the beginning of night (12:00 pm). > >> If 11:59 PM is two mi

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

2019-09-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 06:30:21AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: David Wright wrote: What surprised me is the use of 12am and 12pm in the States. When I was at grammar school (in the days of 12hour times), you lost marks for writing either of these contradictions. It was either 12 noon, 12 midnight,

Re: Linux Journal epub files

2019-09-12 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2019 11 Sep 11:28 -0500, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 07:15:16AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > I did manage to grab all of the available PDF files and then grabbed > > everything in HTML for good measure in my personal archive. I could > > pass along the needed PDF file

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-12 Thread David
On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 16:14, deloptes wrote: > My RPI4 arrived as well - need to pick up also power supply and cables, > which arrived too. Excited to see how it performs. I have one of the official cases as well but after setting eyes on it I never even bothered to try it, due to the thermal

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

2019-09-12 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2019 12 Sep 06:16 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Now I consider establishments like Walgreens, Rite-Aid, Walmart, and others > to > be foreign infiltrators, as, when they have an In and an Out door side by > side, > the In is on the left. (Ok, Walmart is only a halfway foreign infiltr

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 12 September 2019 08:16:57 David wrote: > On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 16:14, deloptes wrote: > > My RPI4 arrived as well - need to pick up also power supply and > > cables, which arrived too. Excited to see how it performs. > > I have one of the official cases as well but after setting eye

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

2019-09-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 07:31:13PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > Even more astonishing is the fact that the US Government switched > their am/pm meanings sometime between 2000 and 2008, which shows > just how ambiguous they are. [citation needed]

Re: Display resolution 3840x2160@24rb stopped working after Upgrade from Stretch to Buster

2019-09-12 Thread David Wright
On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 06:23:04 (+), Jan Michael Greiner wrote: > On Monday, September 9, 2019, 1:55:06 PM GMT+2, Charles Curley wrote: > >> On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 10:20:37+ (UTC) Jan Michael Greiner wrote: > >> With Debian Stretch (9.8) I had the display running with 3840x2160 > >> resolution a

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

2019-09-12 Thread David Wright
On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 06:30:21 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > > > What surprised me is the use of 12am and 12pm in the States. When > > I was at grammar school (in the days of 12hour times), you lost > > marks for writing either of these contradictions. It was either > > 12

24-hour vs. 12-hour time, ambiguity, and abbreviations (was Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster)

2019-09-12 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-09-12 at 06:30, Dan Ritter wrote: > David Wright wrote: >> >> What surprised me is the use of 12am and 12pm in the States. When I >> was at grammar school (in the days of 12hour times), you lost marks >> for writing either of these contradictions. It was either 12 noon, >> 12 midnight, or

Re: 24-hour vs. 12-hour time, ambiguity, and abbreviations (was Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster)

2019-09-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 09:42:03AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: I take a slightly different approach, based on the apparent actual meanings of the words for which "AM" and "PM are abbreviations. It seems intuitively obvious to me that between 11:59 Ante-Meridiem and 12:01 Post-Meridiem must lie 12

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

2019-09-12 Thread Curt
On 2019-09-12, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 07:31:13PM -0500, David Wright wrote: >> Even more astonishing is the fact that the US Government switched >> their am/pm meanings sometime between 2000 and 2008, which shows >> just how ambiguous they are. > > [citation needed] > > ht

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

2019-09-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 01:48:07PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-09-12, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 07:31:13PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > >> Even more astonishing is the fact that the US Government switched > >> their am/pm meanings sometime between 2000 and 2008, which shows

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

2019-09-12 Thread David Wright
On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 13:48:07 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2019-09-12, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 07:31:13PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > >> Even more astonishing is the fact that the US Government switched > >> their am/pm meanings sometime between 2000 and 2008, which shows >

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Re: 24-hour vs. 12-hour time, ambiguity, and abbreviations (was Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster)

2019-09-12 Thread David Wright
On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 09:42:03 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: > On 2019-09-12 at 06:30, Dan Ritter wrote: > > David Wright wrote: > >> > >> What surprised me is the use of 12am and 12pm in the States. When I > >> was at grammar school (in the days of 12hour times), you lost marks > >> for writing ei

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

2019-09-12 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, September 12, 2019 08:09:18 AM Michael Stone wrote: > The railroads solved this more than a century ago: you just never use > 12:00 and stick with 11:59 or 12:01. Sometimes communicating clearly is > more important than being right. I like that (but getting everyone to adhere to that

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

2019-09-12 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, September 12, 2019 08:26:23 AM Nate Bargmann wrote: > Not all Walmarts are like that. ;-) > > The one in Beatrice, NE is as you describe, at least the north most > entrance. The ones in Marysviile, KS and Fairbury, NE are "normal", > i.e. ingress on the right when outside the store

Re: 24-hour vs. 12-hour time, ambiguity, and abbreviations (was Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster)

2019-09-12 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-09-12 at 12:03, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 09:42:03 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2019-09-12 at 06:30, Dan Ritter wrote: >>> There is only one sensible interpretation: >>> >>> If 11:59 AM is two minutes before 12:01 PM, then 12:00 is PM. >>> >>> If 11:59 PM is tw

apt-offline

2019-09-12 Thread Paul Thomas
Hello, I see that apt-offline is not part of buster. Is there any plan to add it? thanks, Paul

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-12 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Tue, 2019-09-10 at 07:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 09 September 2019 23:06:27 Thomas D Dial wrote: > > > On Mon, 2019-09-09 at 12:21 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: (unrelated material omitted) > > > $PITA problem, raspian insists the first, usr 1000 is > > > "pi". Is there a foolproof

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

2019-09-12 Thread John Hasler
rhkramer writes: > If 12:01 pm is two minutes after 11:59 am, then 12:00 is AM. AM means "before the meridian", that is, before the Sun crosses the meridian[1]. PM means after the meridian. Time is the ordering of events. The Sun crossing the meridian is an event which we call noon: everything

Re: apt-offline

2019-09-12 Thread Brian
On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 13:36:35 -0400, Paul Thomas wrote: > Hello, > > I see that apt-offline is not part of buster. Is there any plan to add it? Only the maintainer would know about that. It is unlikely he reads this list. -- Brian.

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-12 Thread deloptes
David wrote: > I didn't bother with the heatsinks that came with it. I just wanted a > fan and some ventilation instead of a sealed little plastic oven. Yes, a similar was ordered and arrived as well. I tend to plan all of this in my head and usually it works so well, that I do not have to run to

Re: apt-offline

2019-09-12 Thread Alexandre Rossi
Hi, > > I see that apt-offline is not part of buster. Is there any plan to add it? > > Only the maintainer would know about that. It is unlikely he reads this > list. https://bugs.debian.org/871656 is what keeps apt-offline out of testing and thus stable. Alex

Re: 24-hour vs. 12-hour time, ambiguity, and abbreviations (was Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster)

2019-09-12 Thread David Wright
On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 12:42:01 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: > On 2019-09-12 at 12:03, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 09:42:03 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2019-09-12 at 06:30, Dan Ritter wrote: > > >>> There is only one sensible interpretation: > >>> > >>> If 11:59 AM is tw

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

2019-09-12 Thread David Wright
On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 14:13:19 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > rhkramer writes: > > If 12:01 pm is two minutes after 11:59 am, then 12:00 is AM. > > AM means "before the meridian", that is, before the Sun crosses the > meridian[1]. PM means after the meridian. Time is the ordering of > events. Th

Re: 24-hour vs. 12-hour time, ambiguity, and abbreviations (was Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster)

2019-09-12 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-09-12 at 21:49, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 12 Sep 2019 at 12:42:01 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2019-09-12 at 12:03, David Wright wrote: >>> It might be ambiguous if m were also an abbreviation for midnight, >>> which I've never come across. >> >> Neither have I, but I also hav

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

2019-09-12 Thread John Hasler
David Wright writes: > Odd that they decided to employ that logic in the 21st century after > (most) clocks had ceased to tick. All clocks tick. "Tick" no longer means "emit a noise once per second" in modern chronometry. > But it is remarkable to use logic to prove a contradiction... What con

Re: 24-hour vs. 12-hour time, ambiguity, and abbreviations (was Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster)

2019-09-12 Thread John Hasler
The Wanderer writes: > Wherever you need to specify midnight in a form where specifying any > other time would get the "AM"/"PM"/"M"(eridiem) abbreviation. > To have a two-letter abbreviation for midnight but a one-letter one > for noon might be acceptable, although it would feel lopsided to me, >

Re: 24-hour vs. 12-hour time, ambiguity, and abbreviations (was Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster)

2019-09-12 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-09-12 at 23:20, John Hasler wrote: > The Wanderer writes: > >> Wherever you need to specify midnight in a form where specifying any >> other time would get the "AM"/"PM"/"M"(eridiem) abbreviation. > >> To have a two-letter abbreviation for midnight but a one-letter one >> for noon might b

Re: Default date output format changed after an upgrade to buster

2019-09-12 Thread deloptes
John Hasler wrote: > All clocks tick.  "Tick" no longer means "emit a noise once per second" > in modern chronometry. +1 The clock frequency is produced by oscillator at 32.768kHz which means that 15 flops at this frequency produce 1sec. This is one tick.

Re: apt-offline

2019-09-12 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
Hello Paul, On Thu, 2019-09-12 at 13:36 -0400, Paul Thomas wrote: > Hello, > > I see that apt-offline is not part of buster. Is there any plan to > add it? > It is currently out of Buster (and Debian Testing) because of bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=871656 I have hoped