* Robert Millan [Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:22:58 +0100]:
Currently, the only solution I see is that we ask the developers what they
think, and hold another vote.
Yes, I'm realizing myself there is not going to be another way. :-(
Proposal: hand Robert Millan a nice cup of STFU.
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.
(On the other hand, I think seconding is different, and that it should
be okay to second stuff even just because I think it's good for it to
be on the ballot.)
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in discussing this any further, so
please don't take my lack of answer to your next message as lack of
disagreement.
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exists, and that then, even Stephen Fry (let alone
Richard Stallman) would endorse you.
http://www.gnewsense.org/
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the discussion period? He did so for the *other*
vote, but I haven't seen a thread where he did for this one. (I may have
just missed it.)
http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2008/11/msg00046.html, no?
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an ack either:
http://master.debian.org/~srivasta/gr_lenny/index.html
(At least I haven't either.)
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not at end of term, if there's disagreement
between them?
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votes for each orthogonal issue, eg.
choice #6 and, if there's enough interest, #4.
The discontent of the day,
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* Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho [Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:10:34 +0200]:
But your interpretation is certainly possible. Of course, that just means
it's up to the Secretary to rule which (if either) is correct :)
Brilliant.
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for increasing the mess we already have. I will personally ignore this
additional vote which suffers from the same problem as the official one,
namely that it is unacceptably colored by the person who is managing it.
Peace to you too.
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* Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho [Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:32:40 +0200]:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 05:37:33PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
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[ ] Choice 1: Delay Lenny until known firmware issues
yourself in the past,
and it'd be bad to bring to others what you so much loathed.
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* Adeodato Simó [Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:35:44 +0100]:
I believe developers, and particularly those holding key positions,
should not ignore other developers even if their concerns don't come
^^
Er, should make an effort not to; I think the difference is important.
in with a wrapping
* Adeodato Simó [Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:35:44 +0100]:
Well, you'll have to understand that I'm not going to stop doing
something which I don't believe to be wrong just because a fellow
developer asks me to.
I retract this paragraph. It was written in the first pass of the reply,
before I my sat
true? I thought our vote methods were robust against
stuff like that.
If knowledgeable people could comment, I'd be very much interested in a
confirmation of Julien's statement, ideally with some kind of explanation.
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, of course. What I'm interested is in the practical differences and
implications between 312 and 7123456, eg., which is what Julien was
arguing about.
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brackets, but I forgot, I'm sorry.
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below 5, and later both reach quorum, would my ranking of 1 below 5 be
taken into account in the 1-vs-5 run, just as if I had ranked them both
above FD, or not?
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on a new wording before the vote
instead of letting someone else decide on it.
Can the SC be modified without a second vote?
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* Manoj Srivastava [Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:32:33 -0600]:
On Mon, Nov 17 2008, Adeodato Simó wrote:
* Josselin Mouette [Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:38:43 +0100]:
Le lundi 17 novembre 2008 à 14:05 +0100, Peter Palfrader a écrit :
This is not part of my GR as proposed and seconded.
The Secretary
interesting because we're not voting it in a separate ballot to
begin with. I don't understand how you're reckoning a second vote could
be needed if it passes 3:1 but does not win, and don't accept to run a
separate vote first, as Peter requested.
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Lenny not to be blocked by firmware
issues even if the Release teams changes their mind and remove the
lenny-ignore tags?
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The pure
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The problem I have with making an intelligent statement is that some
people then think that it's not an isolated occurrance
, this one should not be voted together with the rest, since it's
an orthogonal issue. This not /exclusively/ a solution for the problem
for Lenny.
We can ask the proposer of this option what he thinks, if you don't
agree it should be split out.
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]: http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2008/11/msg00086.html
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If you want the holes in your knowledge showing up try teaching someone
* Adeodato Simó [Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:17:23 +0100]:
I don't think we have ever had this vote, and it's about time that
we do, *without bundling it with somebody else*.
something
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* Adeodato Simó [Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:31:59 +0100]:
But no, you just carried on and ignored my concerns. Thank you, Robert.
Let's be more a bit more constructive: you say you act out of alarm by
seeing the release team take some decisions for the project. I claim
that the Release Team
* Lars Wirzenius [Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:42:30 +0200]:
ti, 2008-11-11 kello 16:39 +0100, Adeodato Simó kirjoitti:
Have you thought for a second, though, that the project as a whole could not
agree with you in not sharing that view?
It is to determine the will of the project as a whole that we
mentioned and, if the answer is no, then have
*this* vote.
But no, you just carried on and ignored my concerns. Thank you, Robert.
[1]: http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2008/10/msg00288.html
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* Wouter Verhelst [Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:56:11 +0200]:
during the discussion, Ross Burton suggested
Obvious typo: Russ Allbery?
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- Are you sure
hopefully won't post more to this thread, though I'd be curious to
know if other people think the above is just fine to say on d-d-a, or
just don't care at all, or else.
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* Nico Golde [Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:59:42 +0200]:
manipulating
Rght.
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Love in your heart wasn't put there to stay.
Love isn't love 'til you
to not commit.
#436093 for those following along at home.
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Poco después de la guerra civil, un brote de cólera se había llevado a
mi madre. La enterramos
* Joerg Jaspert [Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:41:44 +0200]:
Ok, they may hurt the secretary, Manoj will have a fun time listing all
of us seconders. :)
Nothing prevents him from just choosing the first 5 seconds, or 5 at
random, TTBOMK.
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* Josselin Mouette [Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:04:35 +0200]:
While documents using this license are considered free provided they
don't use invariant sections, the DFSG don't contain the necessary
modifications.
Because none are needed. Amendment A would have been 3:1 otherwise.
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somebody wants to try it. :P
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When all is summed up, a man never speaks of himself without loss; his
accusations of himself are always believed; his
* Raphael Hertzog [Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:06:01 +0100]:
(even if I don't think that stockholm would do the best DPL).
Is this a statement, or an hypothesis? If a statement, then I feel
compelled to ask: who would?
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: sorry, I don't accept this modification into
my proposed wording.
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the last paragraph in my mail:
| I don't see much point in carrying details about the other two issues,
| when they don't affect us at all.
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So long,
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Project (by means of its Developers doing so) choose
to interpret the license in the clearly the 'make or' is not intended
literal sense? I mean, this is sooo please waive me.
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that this (in a similar fashion to Manoj's mail)
is the best option. The only problem I see is that Manoj's mail seems
to want to attach a position statement to each option, and that can be
divisive. I'm starting to see the benefits of a prior vote...
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/msg00060.html
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a
statement that some GFDL documents will remain in main, I don't think
explicit wording is needed _in_ the SC, at all.
Or so.
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Arguing
overrules debian-legal's assessment that certain
two clauses of the GFDL are non-free, and thus needs 1:1
How this gets handled, that I don't know, but I can imagine.
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these two issues as bugs/misfunctions in the wording of the
license, but they're non-RC for us and hence are willing to waive them
for main.
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Guy
, but it's the
way I feel it, and can't do anything about it.)
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* Anthony Towns [Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:24:47 +1000]:
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 04:55:43AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
II. Transparent And Opaque Copies
Section 3 (Copying in Quantity) of the GFDL states that it is not
enough to just put a transparent copy of a document alongside
-release@lists.debian.org:gfdl
[2] http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.html
[3] http://wiki.debian.org/GFDLPositionStatement
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* Anthony Towns [Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:03:39 +1000]:
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 01:10:37PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
If, on the other hand (but this may be better the scope of another GR?
I'm not sure, just mention if you think it is), this proposal is
accompanied by a change
is discussed.
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I've been told on IRC that devotee currently has such a replay-guard
mechanism. Perhaps Manoj can confirm, and comment a bit about the
implemented safeguards? (Or point to the relevant explanation pages,
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attacked by someone who's trying to use the BTS reopen command to force
a maintainer to do things against their better judgement.
That's from the link above.
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