Re: Rename tapestry-ioc to hivemind

2014-07-21 Thread Lance Java
Ok, I'll have to admit defeat and let the ambiguity continue... ;) On 21 Jul 2014 17:08, "Howard Lewis Ship" wrote: > I think Thiago's summary ... that tapestry-ioc is five years old, so > renaming it will cause more confusion than good, is right on the money. I > would not support a rename. >

Re: Rename tapestry-ioc to hivemind

2014-07-21 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
I think Thiago's summary ... that tapestry-ioc is five years old, so renaming it will cause more confusion than good, is right on the money. I would not support a rename. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:46:00 -0

Re: Rename tapestry-ioc to hivemind

2014-07-21 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:46:00 -0300, Lance Java wrote: How's about tapioca as a name suggestion? It has references to tapestry and ioc. :) That's making me hungry and it's not lunch time here yet! :D A quick Google search for "tapioca framework" shows a number of existing stuff with that

Re: Rename tapestry-ioc to hivemind

2014-07-21 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
Now with structured answers, leaving the explanations for that other answer I've posted: On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 05:02:28 -0300, Lance Java wrote: So, I have some questions to consider. 1. Do you agree that tapestry-ioc should be renamed? No, as renames creates confusions by themselves. The

Re: Rename tapestry-ioc to hivemind

2014-07-21 Thread Lance Java
How's about tapioca as a name suggestion? It has references to tapestry and ioc. :) On 21 Jul 2014 14:38, "Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo" wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 05:02:28 -0300, Lance Java > wrote: > > I asked this question before I was a committer and generally got good >> feedback but it

Re: Rename tapestry-ioc to hivemind

2014-07-21 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 05:02:28 -0300, Lance Java wrote: I asked this question before I was a committer and generally got good feedback but it never really went anywhere. I think having tapestry-ioc and tapestry (the web framework) is a bit confusing. I also feel that it hinders the promotion /

Re: Rename tapestry-ioc to hivemind

2014-07-21 Thread Lance Java
As discussed, I'm not suggesting to move the project outside of the tapestry build / release. I'm also not tied to the hivemind name. I constantly find myself saying tapestry (the web framework) and tapestry-ioc on the user's list. A rename would help remove this ambiguity. On 21 Jul 2014 11:42, "

Re: Rename tapestry-ioc to hivemind

2014-07-21 Thread Bob Harner
I don't think it's a good idea to resurrect old software product names, because you bring with them all the old connotations. To the extent people know about Hivemind, they think of the product as old, out of date & dead. Also, there were good reasons why Tapestry-IOC was not treated as a distinct

Re: Rename tapestry-ioc to hivemind

2014-07-21 Thread Jochen Kemnade
Hi, Am 19.07.2014 10:02, schrieb Lance Java: I think having tapestry-ioc and tapestry (the web framework) is a bit confusing. I also feel that it hinders the promotion / adoption of tapestry-ioc as a standalone product. I see your point. I don't really have a strong opinion about that matter,

Re: [VOTE] Apche Tapestry 5.4-beta-14 release

2014-07-21 Thread Jochen Kemnade
Hi, Am 19.07.2014 05:35, schrieb Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo: Beside the ones in this thread, any other ones that cannot wait for 5.4.1? I think all major stuff, specially JavaScript, was implemented already. I'd really like to have the asset/charset-related issues fixed for 5.4.0. I guess i