Re: F24 Self Contained Change: System Python

2016-02-10 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "VO" == Vít Ondruch writes: VO> Since this is about disk size, I proposed already quite long ago to VO> not ship the source *.py code, e.g. there could be something like: Yes, this is something I've looked at as part of trying to clean up python packaging with new macros. It's certainly p

Re: Making mailman3/hyperkitty send my emails to me

2016-02-10 Thread Dusty Mabe
On 02/10/2016 02:51 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:47:56 -0500 > Dusty Mabe wrote: > >> On 02/10/2016 02:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:03:48 -0500 >>> Dusty Mabe wrote: >>> Thanks Kevin. I'm playing around with settings now to see if I can g

Fedora Rawhide 20160210 compose check report

2016-02-10 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Kde disk raw armhfp Kde live i386 Workstation live i386 Workstation live x86_64 Kde live x86_64 Images in this compose but not Rawhide 20160209: Cloud disk qcow x86_64 Cloud_atomic disk raw x86_64 Cloud disk raw i386 Cloud docker x86_64 Soas disk raw armhfp Cloud disk ra

Planned Outage: fedorapeople.org - 2016-02-11 16:00 UTC

2016-02-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Planned Outage: fedorapeople.org - 2016-02-11 16:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2016-02-11 16:00 UTC, which will last approximately 1 hour. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2016-02-11 16:00

Re: Making mailman3/hyperkitty send my emails to me

2016-02-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:47:56 -0500 Dusty Mabe wrote: > On 02/10/2016 02:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:03:48 -0500 > > Dusty Mabe wrote: > > > >> Thanks Kevin. I'm playing around with settings now to see if I can > >> get it. I can file a bug if needed. Is this the right

Re: Making mailman3/hyperkitty send my emails to me

2016-02-10 Thread Dusty Mabe
On 02/10/2016 02:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:03:48 -0500 > Dusty Mabe wrote: > >> Thanks Kevin. I'm playing around with settings now to see if I can get >> it. I can file a bug if needed. Is this the right place: >> >> https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/issues > > Act

Re: Making mailman3/hyperkitty send my emails to me

2016-02-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 14:03:48 -0500 Dusty Mabe wrote: > Thanks Kevin. I'm playing around with settings now to see if I can get > it. I can file a bug if needed. Is this the right place: > > https://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/issues Actually this is either postorius (the admin interface) or ma

Re: Making mailman3/hyperkitty send my emails to me

2016-02-10 Thread Dusty Mabe
On 02/10/2016 01:05 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:39:51 -0500 > Dusty Mabe wrote: > >> I have played with all of the settings in hyperkitty and I still am >> failing to get the emails that I compose and send to a mailing list >> also sent back to me. >> >> The reason I want th

copr-fe.cloud.fedoraproject.org is no more

2016-02-10 Thread Miroslav Suchy
Several of you reported expired certificate of copr-fe.cloud.fedoraproject.org This url was only used at very earlier stage of this project and now is deprecated. It still exist albeit with expired certificate, but it will be removed soon. Please replace your bookmarks with either copr.fedorap

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: System Python

2016-02-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 01:15:58PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Petr Viktorin wrote: > > On 02/09/2016 08:26 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >> The scheme with automatic dependency generation could be implemented > >> gradually, by introducing the automatic

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: System Python

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Miro Hrončok (mhron...@redhat.com) said: >> I had this in mind as well, but currently, this is not the part of the >> change. Once we need this and we have system-python, we can propose a >> system wide change that system-python is a differ

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: System Python

2016-02-10 Thread Bill Nottingham
Miro Hrončok (mhron...@redhat.com) said: > I had this in mind as well, but currently, this is not the part of the > change. Once we need this and we have system-python, we can propose a > system wide change that system-python is a different version. ... is the goal that the system-python is outsi

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: System Python

2016-02-10 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Petr Viktorin wrote: > On 02/09/2016 08:26 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> The scheme with automatic dependency generation could be implemented >> gradually, by introducing the automatic provides and dependencies >> generators, without removing current ma

[Test-Announce] Fedora 24 Rawhide 20160210 nightly compose nominated for testing

2016-02-10 Thread adamwill
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora 24 Rawhide 20160210. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly release validation testing, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: Making mailman3/hyperkitty send my emails to me

2016-02-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:39:51 -0500 Dusty Mabe wrote: > I have played with all of the settings in hyperkitty and I still am > failing to get the emails that I compose and send to a mailing list > also sent back to me. > > The reason I want this is because of the "archived-at" email header. > Once

Fedora Rawhide 20160209 compose check report

2016-02-10 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Cloud disk raw i386 Cloud_atomic disk raw x86_64 Workstation live x86_64 Workstation live i386 Minimal disk raw armhfp Kde disk raw armhfp Kde live i386 Cloud disk raw x86_64 Kde live x86_64 No images in this compose but not Rawhide 20160208 No images in Rawhide 20160208

Making mailman3/hyperkitty send my emails to me

2016-02-10 Thread Dusty Mabe
I have played with all of the settings in hyperkitty and I still am failing to get the emails that I compose and send to a mailing list also sent back to me. The reason I want this is because of the "archived-at" email header. Once I compose an email and get it sent to me from mailman it will have

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: System Python

2016-02-10 Thread Vít Ondruch
Since this is about disk size, I proposed already quite long ago to not ship the source *.py code, e.g. there could be something like: python-foo-source python2-foo python3-foo And in the python{2,3}-foo could be "Suggests: python-foo-source" (or Recommends, since there were some voices that the

Re: C++ preprocessor behaviour change in rawhide

2016-02-10 Thread Tomáš Smetana
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 17:38:08 +0100 Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 05:27:46PM +0100, Tomáš Smetana wrote: > > Hello, > > one of my packages (tvtime) failed to build during the mass rebuild. > > Not a big deal, I think there are several ways to fix it. The odd thing > > is that th

ppisar changed perl-sig's 'watchbugzilla' permission on perl-Tie-Hash-Method (f23) to 'Approved'

2016-02-10 Thread notifications
ppisar changed perl-sig's 'watchbugzilla' permission on perl-Tie-Hash-Method (f23) to 'Approved' https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/perl-Tie-Hash-Method/ -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedorap

ppisar changed perl-sig's 'watchcommits' permission on perl-Tie-Hash-Method (f23) to 'Approved'

2016-02-10 Thread notifications
ppisar changed perl-sig's 'watchcommits' permission on perl-Tie-Hash-Method (f23) to 'Approved' https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/perl-Tie-Hash-Method/ -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedorapr

Re: C++ preprocessor behaviour change in rawhide

2016-02-10 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 05:27:46PM +0100, Tomáš Smetana wrote: > Hello, > one of my packages (tvtime) failed to build during the mass rebuild. Not a > big deal, I think there are several ways to fix it. The odd thing is that the > build failed due to a rather unexpected change in C++ preprocessor

C++ preprocessor behaviour change in rawhide

2016-02-10 Thread Tomáš Smetana
Hello, one of my packages (tvtime) failed to build during the mass rebuild. Not a big deal, I think there are several ways to fix it. The odd thing is that the build failed due to a rather unexpected change in C++ preprocessor (g++ -E or cpp). Let's assume I have a test.cpp file containing this:

iptables 1.6.0

2016-02-10 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
Hi, Can anyone update iptables ? 1.6.0 includes new features and accumulated fixes since 1.4.21(Jan-2014). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1292990 -thanks- -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F24 System wide change: sed - move /bin/sed to /usr/bin/sed

2016-02-10 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:43 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 02/10/2016 09:49 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: >> >> Dne 10.2.2016 v 07:19 Eric Griffith napsal(a): >>> >>> Functionally, whats the effect of this change? > > > I understand, I am fighting Red Hat wind-mills, but I consider this change > to b

Re: F24 System wide change: sed - move /bin/sed to /usr/bin/sed

2016-02-10 Thread Petr Stodulka
On 10.2.2016 14:04, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On a running system /usr/bin/sed and /bin/sed are exactly equivalent, > but /bin/sed is the classic location, and there is no gain in changing > it in metadata. I agree with other posters that this change doesn't > seem useful. > Yes, I u

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: Let's Encrypt client now in Fedora

2016-02-10 Thread James Hogarth
On 10 February 2016 at 14:57, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 9:41 AM, James Hogarth > wrote: > >> > > Marketing are aware the package exists ... I worked with them on the > Fedora > > Magazine article(s) after all ... even got a >5000 view badge for it! ;) > > Fantastic. > > I was r

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: Let's Encrypt client now in Fedora

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 9:41 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > > On 10 February 2016 at 14:17, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Matthew Miller >> wrote: >> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 07:28:52AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> Changes are not used for that purpose. It is express

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: System Python

2016-02-10 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 10.2.2016 13:41, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Petr Viktorin wrote: >> On 02/09/2016 08:26 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> >>> Second, why call it python-*, not python3-*? I think it'll >>> be endlessly confusing to have both python*- (v3), python2-* (v2), >>> a

rawhide report: 20160210 changes

2016-02-10 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Feb 10 05:15:03 UTC 2016 Broken deps for i386 -- [IQmol] IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_serialization.so.1.58.0 IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_iostreams.so.1.58.0 IQmol-2.3.0

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: Let's Encrypt client now in Fedora

2016-02-10 Thread James Hogarth
On 10 February 2016 at 14:17, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 07:28:52AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> Changes are not used for that purpose. It is expressly the reason we > >> decided to stop calling them Features. Chang

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: Let's Encrypt client now in Fedora

2016-02-10 Thread James Hogarth
On 10 February 2016 at 14:09, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 02:45:37AM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: > > Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change) > > I'd love to see this extended to be a Fedora Server feature, and > possibly integrated with Cockpit. I remember some discussion

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: Let's Encrypt client now in Fedora

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 07:28:52AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: >> Changes are not used for that purpose. It is expressly the reason we >> decided to stop calling them Features. Changes focus on the technical >> content and impact for communic

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: Let's Encrypt client now in Fedora

2016-02-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 02:45:37AM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: > Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change) I'd love to see this extended to be a Fedora Server feature, and possibly integrated with Cockpit. I remember some discussion about that initially... where did that go? -- Matthew Miller

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: Let's Encrypt client now in Fedora

2016-02-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 07:28:52AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > Changes are not used for that purpose. It is expressly the reason we > decided to stop calling them Features. Changes focus on the technical > content and impact for communication with Fedora developers. There's > nothing in this one

Re: F24 System wide change: sed - move /bin/sed to /usr/bin/sed

2016-02-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:43:45AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 02/10/2016 09:49 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > >Dne 10.2.2016 v 07:19 Eric Griffith napsal(a): > >>Functionally, whats the effect of this change? > > I understand, I am fighting Red Hat wind-mills, but I consider this > change to b

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: System Python

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Petr Viktorin wrote: > On 02/09/2016 08:26 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >> Second, why call it python-*, not python3-*? I think it'll >> be endlessly confusing to have both python*- (v3), python2-* (v2), >> and python3-* (v3) mixed in the same distro. >

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: Let's Encrypt client now in Fedora

2016-02-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: >> >> And aren't we supposed to *not* do stuff like this >> anymore? > > > > If I had to guess, I'd say that this was proposed as an F24 change to help > it get publicity in the release n

Re: Erlang busted on i386 on rawhide... workaround for erlang-based packages?

2016-02-10 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello All! 2016-02-10 13:08 GMT+01:00 Martin Langhoff : > Hi Peter(s), > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:37 AM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: >> Yes, that's a known issue I'm trying to address now. I've got a >> possible fix from upstream developers, so things are getting better. > > That's great to hear. Am

Re: F24 System wide change: sed - move /bin/sed to /usr/bin/sed

2016-02-10 Thread Florian Weimer
On 02/10/2016 11:43 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > You should understand that /usr/bin/sed is a Fedora proprietary > location, while /bin/sed is the traditional location sed was installed, > which occasionally can be found hard-coded in many places. Sorry, that's rewriting history. Full paths for P

Re: Erlang busted on i386 on rawhide... workaround for erlang-based packages?

2016-02-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Peter(s), On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:37 AM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > Yes, that's a known issue I'm trying to address now. I've got a > possible fix from upstream developers, so things are getting better. That's great to hear. Am I tracking the right BZ# with BZ#1240487? cheers, m -- mart

Re: F24 System wide change: sed - move /bin/sed to /usr/bin/sed

2016-02-10 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/10/2016 09:49 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: Dne 10.2.2016 v 07:19 Eric Griffith napsal(a): Functionally, whats the effect of this change? I understand, I am fighting Red Hat wind-mills, but I consider this change to be non-helpful, like I consider all of UsrMov too be a serious mistake. Th

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: System Python

2016-02-10 Thread Petr Viktorin
On 02/09/2016 08:26 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 08:27:53AM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: >> = Proposed Self Contained Change: System Python = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/System_Python >> >> Change owner(s): >> * Miro Hrončok >> * Petr Viktorin >> * Robe

Re: Erlang busted on i386 on rawhide... workaround for erlang-based packages?

2016-02-10 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello All! Yes, that's a known issue I'm trying to address now. I've got a possible fix from upstream developers, so things are getting better. 2016-02-10 1:10 GMT+01:00 Martin Langhoff : > Hi folks, > > trying to upload a new release of elixir, I am butting into something that > looks and smells

Re: F24 / drop dependency on php-pear

2016-02-10 Thread Jan Kurik
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Remi Collet wrote: > Despite I'm a bit late with schedule, can you please check the F24 self > contained change proposal > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/drop_pear_dep Has just been announced: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@list

F24 Self Contained Change: Drop php-pear dependency for pecl modules

2016-02-10 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Drop php-pear dependency for pecl modules = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/drop_pear_dep Change owner(s): * Remi Collet All PECL packaged modules (php-pecl-*) have a unneeded runtime dependency on php-pear, for module registration in package scriptlets.

F24 / drop dependency on php-pear

2016-02-10 Thread Remi Collet
Despite I'm a bit late with schedule, can you please check the F24 self contained change proposal https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/drop_pear_dep Notice: the change is "done", so mostly to give it a bit more visibility. Thanks, Remi. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Erlang busted on i386 on rawhide... workaround for erlang-based packages?

2016-02-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 12:10 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Hi folks, > > trying to upload a new release of elixir, I am butting into something that > looks and smells a lot like BZ#1240487 -- the (noarch) rpm builds nicely on > x86_64 but the erlang runtime segfaults every time on i386. > > This F

Re: F24 System wide change: sed - move /bin/sed to /usr/bin/sed

2016-02-10 Thread Petr Stodulka
Hi Eric, yes, /bin is a symlink to /usr/bin already. However this doesn't matter if it is just symlink or different folder. When provides of /bin/sed will be removed, dependency tree will be broken due to packages which require /bin/sed. If you ask about that. Change was done because /usr/bin sho

Re: F24 System wide change: sed - move /bin/sed to /usr/bin/sed

2016-02-10 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 10.2.2016 v 07:19 Eric Griffith napsal(a): > Functionally, whats the effect of this change? If someone has Requires: /bin/sed It will stop working. Just the dependency. The call in shell will still work. -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCA Red Hat, Senior Software Engineer, #brno, #devexp, #fedora-bu

Re: DNF pains

2016-02-10 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 3.2.2016 v 23:28 Felix Miata napsal(a): > Problem #1: > NAICT, DNF, like Yum before it, offers no option I can recognize from its man > page to download less than all the to-be-updated/installed packages before > proceeding to install any packages. Thus it downloads (typically hundreds of > pac

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: System Python

2016-02-10 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
W dniu 10.02.2016 o 09:13, Colin Walters pisze: The OpenEmbedded project has been doing this for quite a while: Note that distributions built using OpenEmbedded are meant for storage limited devices. Years ago I had to squeeze kernel, Python, gstreamer and working system into 16MB of flash.

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: System Python

2016-02-10 Thread Colin Walters
The OpenEmbedded project has been doing this for quite a while: http://cgit.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/meta/recipes-devtools/python/python-2.7-manifest.inc -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org