On Oct 7, 2008, at 9:25 PM, Martin Dengler wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 07:45:13PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> You bring up a good point. It would be good if the developers used
>> XO and Sugar.
> [...]
>> To get developers eating dog food with the XO you would need the
>> following:
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 07:45:13PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You bring up a good point. It would be good if the developers used
> XO and Sugar.
[...]
> To get developers eating dog food with the XO you would need the
> following:
[...]
> 2.) An IMAP client Activity and corresponding IM
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 10:02:57PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> marco pesenti gritti wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > CCing the Sugar list.
>
> and adding devel.
>
> > >
> > > It seems that one of the problems we will be encounteri
As if discussions on this list aren't lively enough, here's another
issue to look at.
While I was in Jamaica, I met with several people who work with their
school districts, and many pointed out that if a server was to stay
physically resident at the school, it will need a lot of physical
security
You bring up a good point. It would be good if the developers used
XO and Sugar. We would see more progress in software efficiency
amongst other things. I use Sugar most of the time as a G1G1 user
when I am home and testing the latest bits. I do have Ubuntu on an
SD card but rarely boo
marco pesenti gritti wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > CCing the Sugar list.
and adding devel.
> >
> > It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering with generic
> > spins is footprint. Even a standard Ubuntu without Sugar was s
> Tagging isn't as much of an issue as being able to save files
> to a USB key easily.
I'm trying to think of why a kid would want to save files to a USB
key. Normally, except for off-loading objects to a school
repository (a process about which I know nothing), 'files' would be
kept at the XO
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Simon Schampijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> someone at university here is currently planning an activity and asked me
>> which pygame version Sugar is currently using.
>>
>> Neither he nor I couldn't really find any i
Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> someone at university here is currently planning an activity and asked me
> which pygame version Sugar is currently using.
>
> Neither he nor I couldn't really find any information on it on [[Pygame]] or
> [[Software components]] or the more recent archi
This thread on the ejabberd list has detached itself from
server-devel, so for the record I'll point to a couple of interesting
messages:
In http://lists.jabber.ru/pipermail/ejabberd/2008-October/004316.html,
Evgeniy Khramtsov of ProcessOne writes:
> Douglas Bagnall wrote:
>
>> Does ejabberd use
Hey all,
someone at university here is currently planning an activity and asked me
which pygame version Sugar is currently using.
Neither he nor I couldn't really find any information on it on [[Pygame]] or
[[Software components]] or the more recent archives...
Any pointers and help are apprecia
> Fully qualified names (file names) are simple. They are misused to the
> extent that users give things strange or confusing names. But, the
> names are qualified and the users can encounter their work simply by
> remembering most components of the name. The concept is
> straightforward: given
is there anything like a poster/flyer in high resolution PDF?
p.
Samuel Klein wrote:
> This year's G1G1 program will start November 17 in the US. Please
> help us spread the word. Below is a short email blurb about this
> year's program ( from [[G1G1 2008/text]] ). We are coordinating some
> c
This year's G1G1 program will start November 17 in the US. Please
help us spread the word. Below is a short email blurb about this
year's program ( from [[G1G1 2008/text]] ). We are coordinating some
community art and outreach on the grassroots list as well
(http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/gras
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 12:59:23PM -0700, John Gilmore wrote:
> > > (This knowledge
> > > is becoming quite common in at least one of our deployments. Just
> > > yesterday a kid from Uruguay came into #olpc-ayuda to ask exactly how to
> > > do this. And this morning a user spontaneously wrote rm
> Don't know where you have read that. The Journal is intended to give a
> better way to deal with the results of the interaction with the
> machine than a folders-based system inspired on office workers.
Please quit making the kids the guinea-pig for somebody's untested pet
theories about how to
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| a) In response to the question about the Mesh - there are a whole
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| computers can be on at a time so it makes the tool almost impossible
| to use in a class or
Hey Gang -
Please excuse my absence from this discussion - I think it's really
cool how passionate you all are about what you are building. It's
really obvious that you all care about what you are doing - I know
your work will inspire a generation of kids in developing countries to
be this excite
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2512
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On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 11:20:04AM -0400, elana langer wrote:
>> Hey Tech Community-
>>
>> I just wanted to give y'all some feedback from my experience in
>> Mongolia. Feel free to contact me with any questions. Please excus
I've updated my page:
http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/olpc_install_sugar_activities_usb.php
This now uses joyride-2511 and 767. The G1G1 activities are those
listed on this page: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1
The script I run to build the zip files uses this directory for G1G1
activit
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 12:14:13PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:17:16AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>> >> On Thu, Sep
Volunteer Infrastructure Group meeting today, irc.oftc.net:#olpc-admin
October 7, 2008 5:15 pm EDT -04:00 UCT
Agenda
Need secretary
Wiki and website scalability/mirroring -- deployments + G1G1 are coming!
download.l.o scalability/mirroring
Google, archive.org
others?
Lfaraone committee on sing
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2511
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-xulrunner 1.9.0.2-1.olpc3
+xulrunner 1.9.0.2-2.olpc3
+xulrunner-python 1.9.0.2-2.olpc3
-xulrunne
Hey everybody, I was looking at the [[Upgrading Firmware]] page today and I
noticed that it was listing 711 as the latest stable release. It's
transcluding the value: {{Latest_Releases/stable}}. The last editor was
Cscott and before that Greg Smith.
This is a really minor thing to update, is it
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 06:05:41PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > How are we going to rectify the general slowness of our user interface?
>
"Marco Pesenti Gritti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In my mind the fundamental problem is that users aren't required to
>> fully qualify names for their work. Doing so seems to lie outside of
>> one of the core points of
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In my mind the fundamental problem is that users aren't required to
> fully qualify names for their work. Doing so seems to lie outside of
> one of the core points of Sugar's design ("There are no files, folders,
> or appli
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 06:05:41PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How are we going to rectify the general slowness of our user interface?
> > It may not be enough to work on the performance problem from within the
>
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Oct 7, 2008, at 7:20 AM, Gary Oberbrunner wrote:
>
>> Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:17:16AM +0200, Tomeu Vizos
On Oct 7, 2008, at 7:20 AM, Gary Oberbrunner wrote:
> Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:17:16AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Erik Garrison
<[EMAIL PROTECT
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How are we going to rectify the general slowness of our user interface?
> It may not be enough to work on the performance problem from within the
> existing framework. How will we know if this is the case?
We will spend mo
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am concerned that focusing on such systems is breaking simple use
> cases and causing problems for users in the field. I believe that this
> functionality is important, but do not agree that it should comprise the
> base
Hi Eben,
I had in mind the first case, in the sense that's definitely an entry/exit
point
of contents into/from the Sugar ecosystem.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I start to see those in/out interaction
mainly at a formal transformation between two different spaces: the Journal
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 10:49:25AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > mikus wrote:
> > > - First off, every Activity has a 'Name Field' in its top menu.
> > > When running any Activity, the user should enter there a short
> > > "Title"
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Carlo Falciola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let's add Upload/Download from a website, too.
Let's hash that point out a bit further, because I can see it in two
ways. The primary discriminator is whether by "a website" you mean
"any website" or "a particular websit
Some comments:
- some people have made arguments assuming that "IO time" is
separable from "CPU time". In the current hardware, we need to busy
wait for IO in Linux (long story, ask dwmw2, basically the delay
required by the hardware is short enough that it slows down IO by
tenfold if we have to
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Hal Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Here we come against "initial expectations".
>
>> The whole concept of Sugar is that the user doesn't need to
>> explicitly "save files". They are automatically kept in the Sugar
>> datastore, and are accessed through the J
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> mikus wrote:
> > - First off, every Activity has a 'Name Field' in its top menu.
> > When running any Activity, the user should enter there a short
> > "Title" to identify the resulting Journal entry from all others.
> >
> > -
On Oct 7, 2008, at 3:06 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 4:17 AM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>In existing deployments (not trials) content filtering
>> is being done upstream in the internet connection.
>
> Interesting! I didn't know that -
>
>> Content
and maybe a fourth: uploading/downloading files from the web.
-walter
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Gary Oberbrunner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:17:16AM +0200, Tomeu
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 10:20:48AM -0400, Gary Oberbrunner wrote:
> Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:17:16AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROT
Let's add Upload/Download from a website, too.
Carlo
Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Erik Garrison wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:17:16AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Erik Garrison wrote:
...
>> 3) "How do I share files to/from
Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:17:16AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
>> 3) "How do I share files to/from an XO?" "I just di
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:13 AM, S Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On September 8th, Michael Stone wrote:
>>> Kim, Greg, and I have concluded that the instability we experience under
>>> memory-pressure in 8.2-759 and sim
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 12:14:13PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:17:16AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > When I w
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:50 PM, S Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>
>> Read has serious memory problems because renders whole pages
>> into memory, regardless of what is the viewed area. Any chance the
>> first pages of the PDF you opened contained big images?
>
> Nope, it's
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> is joyride open for 9.1 development now?
Also, should we start work on rebasing on F10?
Regards,
Tomeu
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Hello,
is joyride open for 9.1 development now?
Marco
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On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:17:16AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > When I was in Uruguay more teachers asked me about issues with the
>> > Journa
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 09:56:10AM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:02 AM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > /usr/share/sugar/shell/view/devices/battery.py
> >
> >#TODO: make this less of an wild/educated guess
> >minutes_remai
Does anyone see any inconsistency between these statements?
> Sugar reinvents how computers can be used for education. ...
> Everything is saved automatically.
> Our goal is to make it almost impossible to lose any data.
and
> 1. YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR FILES. Back up personal files that
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:02 AM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> /usr/share/sugar/shell/view/devices/battery.py
>
>#TODO: make this less of an wild/educated guess
>minutes_remaining = int(current_level / 0.59)
>remaining_hourpart = minutes_r
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