On Feb 12, 2008 7:38 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 18:32 +, Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves wrote:
> > On 2/12/08, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > So if any, it's made-up by those crazy freedesktop.org guys.
> >
> > Someone find and beat them into a
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Alexander Todorov
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
> I apologize if that's been asked before.
> I couldn't find RPM packages for Sugar or activities except a few made for
> personal use and hosted on the Internet.
>
> My intention is to create rpm package
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Alexander Todorov
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Cool, I've added some comments there.
> Can you please create a list of all packages/activities so we can keep track
> which of them have rpms and which don't?
Commented on the ticket about that.
>
> > If you f
On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Jerry Dunmire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a way to run commands when the Stop button on the ToolBar is
> pressed? I am working on an activity that starts a co-process and I want
> to terminate the co-process when the activity is stopped.
>
> Since I am
2008/3/9 Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Charles -
>
> This sounds like a chunk of code that would fit nicely in the forthcoming
> Sugar Control Panel, which Simon (erikos) has recently started work on. I
> don't know the details, but I assume the control panel will be able to
> transparently
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Hemant Goyal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was thinking while the packaging of speech dispatcher continues I could
> finalize certain UI considerations for speech synthesis. I had a word with
> Tomeu and he advised me to write all the points in a mail to the
Launching activities from another activity is currently not supported.
There are security concerns which will have to be addressed. I hope to
find time to look into this for Update.2.
Marco
On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Joshua Minor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to make a button in my ac
2008/3/12 Dennis Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> There will not be a new build tonight. I need to know what sugar build we
> need pulled in. We need to have at least a patch applied for
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6671 and http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5933
>
> I would be really nice to als
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sayamindu,
>
> I think Victor is asking for something at a higher level of abstraction;
> particularly what goes by the name of a canvas in various toolkits.
>
> I thought we were using goocanvas, or something like that on
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Victor Lazzarini
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> on launching an activity, say a bare one with just the activity
> toolbox and nothing else, I get these warnings in the log
>
> libgnomvfs-WARNING **: unable to create ~/.gnome2 directory ...
>
> I reali
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Victor Lazzarini
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am trying to work out how to access the correct directories
> for writing and I see that SUGAR_ACTIVITY_ROOT is
> supposedly where to look. However is it up to the activity
> to set this variable? I see that the
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Jacob Haddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I know people are busy with Update.1, so forgive the random question.
>
>
> I would like to set up and use Tiddlywiki as my homepage on the OLPC. It is
> a Javascript-only wiki program.
>
>
> I am writing to ask abo
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Jacob Haddon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I looked at about:config, but did not see the setting. admittedly i have
> never used about:config, so i, just now, read up on it. used a version of
> portable firefox here on my computer to test how to add in this prefere
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 7:39 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #6170 ???uwog(shared write crashes)
> #6407 ???marco (Write crashes when sharing and add an image)
#6407 is probably a dup of #6170.
#6170 should be PKG. uwog is going to build rpms.
Marco
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 8:32 AM, John R. Hogerhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Based on observing my daughter, it's not much of an issue with
> a USB mouse. But that's not the usual mode she works with the
> laptop. She pulls it off her shelf and sits on the couch with
> it on her lap. A mouse
Sugar breaks with the standard desktop metaphor by design and doing so
it introduces incompatibilities at several levels. The barrier between
activities and standard applications proved to be a critical problem
in practice. Fortunately most of the current code base is using GNOME
and freedesktop li
There are also dbus bindings for javascript which are being developed,
those would be very useful to integrate with the Sugar services.
Marco
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Urko Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've filled the application to host the project on the olpc git server a
> few days ago but didn't receive any response, shall I write another
> application or just wait? Cheers.
I think it usually takes a few days for
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Paul Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> in a description of how non-sugar apps need some help to run
> properly under sugar, the current front page of OLPC News
> contains the following quote:
>
> "... there is some discussion that Update 1, a forthcoming
>
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > in a description of how non-sugar apps need some help to run
> > properly under sugar, the current front page of OLPC News
> > contains the following quote:
> >
> > "... there is some discussion that Update 1,
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:27 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could someone with some experience with GTK/Gnome themes comment
> briefly on how reasonable it would be to create a theme to make legacy
> applications look as much as possible like our "old" sugar and "new"
> sugar
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1823
>
> Changes in build 1823 from build: 1821
>
> Size delta: -0.40M
>
> -sugar 0.75.14-1.olpc2
> +sugar 0.79.2-1.olpc2
> +sugar-toolkit 0.79.1-1.olpc2
>
Eben are you ok with this?
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 8:37 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Martin Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> ---
> src/view/keyhandler.py |1 -
> 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/src/view/keyhandler.py b/src/view/keyhandler.py
> i
It depends on the contents of the rpm. In some cases you would need to
rebuild...
Marco
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> I am trying to construct an activity that is simple, but depends on a
>
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> | It depends on the contents of the rpm. In some cases you would need to
> | rebuild...
> |
>
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Charles Merriam
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At the risk of low content information:
>
> I heard this rumor that EToys ships with one or rpms embedded. It's
> an untested rumor from an unreliable source. Did I mention it could
> be wrong?
It's not embedded, it'
2008/4/11 Carol Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Thank you for sharing this discussion. Upon reading it I had two questions.
>
> Sugar. I have seen offers on this list from a class ofuniversity graduate
> students to do usability testing. Maybe someone responded to them
> privately. (That would h
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Carol Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Your reference argues not to start with usability tests before doing a
> design. This is not what I suggested, since sugar as a design is largely
> complete at this point. The article also. dismisses usability testing as
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 14 Apr 2008, at 15:04, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
>
> > Personal note: Been running the "new look" Sugar/Joyride for a
> > while. [It does what you describe when an Activity is launched.]
> >
> > I've now trained mysel
In Update.1 the user.js is inside rainbow managed directories and
afaik he path is not predictable.
You could add the proxy prefs to /usr/share/hulahop/prefs.js (note the
use of pref there instead of user_pref).
Marco
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:55 AM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:06 AM, Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>> Can anyone opine as to whether it's possible/feasible right now to
>> estimate number of minutes of battery power remaining?
>
> You could look at gnome-power-manager, which performs a principled
> estimat
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Martin Dengler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I *think* Richard mentioned that he planned to move the
> > gnome-power-manager logic to OHM at some point.
>
> That would be excellent! I was going to look at g-p-m as Chris
> mentioned, on the off (ok, non-existen
Michael,
> In recognition of our limited measurement and release resources, we
> should concentrate our efforts on two minimally coupled topics...
This seems pretty arbitrary and I'm not sure how you are coming to
that conclusion.
I think Greg provides great suggestions on how to reach consensus
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 6:00 AM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, I'm not the authoritative source on this, but I'll toss in my thoughts...
Now... this is getting out of control... designer doing reviews... !?! :P
(Thanks Eben)
Marco
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On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Available at a wiki near you:
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Plan_of_Record-2008/Draft_2
Making quick progresses, yay!
A couple of thoughts about the release process:
* Reducing the scope of the releases is a reasonabl
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I see this too as a hard problem and don't really have experience
> neither. What I would expect is that working on frequent time-based
> releases with features slipping as needed works best for projects like
> linux dis
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 7:39 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> in fact there was a post within the last week claiming that it would be a
> bad idea to make sugar able to use unmodified linux software becouse that
> would mean that the educational software and activities being written for
> suga
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:59 AM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'll say that the impression that I have received as an outsider is that
> > the people working on Sugar have not at all been interested in
> > compatibility with normal linux software.
>
> It's more accurate to say tha
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:59 AM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Somebody who implemented Sugar in the early days clearly didn't
> understand the X11 networked graphics model -- or didn't mind breaking
> it for expediency -- but they only broke it in small ways, which are
> pretty eas
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If someone would like to go ahead and try replacing matchbox with
> metacity, would be great ;)
And I'd be happy to help out whoever attempts it both on the Sugar and
on the wm/X side... :)
Marco
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suspect we're using dbus in some places where we should just be using
> the normal ICCCM/EWMH conventions.
Activities/applications can run fine without DBus right now. The main
problem are a couple of non standard X prope
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Note that this work (should be) the same, no matter what window manager
> we end up using. Window managers have been pretty interchangeable
> throughout X's history. That's what the ICCCM/EWMH's documents are all
> about.
2008/4/22 Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Similarly,
> Journal is much more than just an activity... so that will have to be part
> of systematic testing.
Journal is planned to become part of the Sugar core, perhaps in time
for August release.
Marco
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On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Simon Schampijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> did you update sugar-jhbuild itself (git pull)? There were some changes
> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-April/005215.html
That's not necessary, actually. sugar-jhbuild update itself on buil
Please open tickets about bugs you find... On mailing lists they will
most likely ignored or forgot.
Marco
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Urko Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With latest sugar-jhbuild, I can't download files with browser activity.
> This is what the logfile shows:
>
> 1
Please try with a clean sugar-jhbuild checkout.
Marco
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:21 PM, James Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On my SUSE box I have a sugar-jhbuild installation that is not fulling
> functional (Browser activity doesn't work, Salut doesn't work). I've
> been trying to keep s
2008/5/6 Ankita Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi Tomeu,
>
> I am using fedora 7, and I don't want the sugar environment. I meant the
> firefox browser which is there on the XO. I want to ensure that the browser
> on my machine( i am developing an app with an embedded browser) is exactly
> th same a
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Robert Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Marco,
>
>
> >> > I am using fedora 7, and I don't want the sugar environment. I meant the
> >> > firefox browser which is there on the XO. I want to ensure that the
> browser
> >> > on my machine( i am developing an app
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls
>
> ~/.sugar/default/datastore2/01/012beac5-9d4e-477e-848d-d7ef6a731fca/extra_metadata/
> preview
Are there still good reasons to keep the preview separate? If I
remember correctly the main reas
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Delta compression and version tracking.
I think it would be interesting to have an estimate of the
work/complexity involved in this. In particular I'd like to understand
how it will affect activities. Do you think it wou
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Monitor one dir where legacy apps will be allowed to write files to,
> and move new files to the datastore along with some default metadata.
Monitoring+moving feels fragile/racy. Did you consider using FUSE for this?
M
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Martin Langhoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > For example, we may have a "sugar" build with the latest
> > sugar UI bits, a "security" build which implements Bitfrost more
> > fully, a "printers" build which works on printer support,
>
> That makes sense if (
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 07.05.2008, at 19:36, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
>
> > I'm not really convinced it should be a separate build. Just ship a
> > set of core activities and make it really easy to i
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 7:51 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Note that the meat of this proposal was *not* aimed at @laptop.org
> employees, who I assume are savvy enough to get appropriate changes
> upstream. The real point here was to outline a devel strategy that
> would wor
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:10 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Well, I think we should provide a set of default activities. And I
> > think those should include
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-May/013768.html
(But see the whole thread)
Marco
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Morgan Collett
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Did I miss something? Are we building joyride without activities now?
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Build Announce
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, the title is currently stored in the metadata file next to the
> actual file, so perhaps some ls-ds tool may be easily coded to present
> the files with names based on their title?
I think Jim point was that we need
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Yes, the
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 6:47 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm curious whether you think of this as a quick band-aid or a
> longer-term fix. Also, the existing olpcfs code seems to provide as
> much functionality as your current datastore, was there a reason you
> didn't bui
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 7:55 PM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Clearly she can spend weeks scrolling around in the Journal looking for
> specific things and manually copying them out to a USB stick. But can't
> she export the whole thing in bulk?
As Tomeu pointed out this is already
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 16:06 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> > On 5/8/08, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 13:09 +, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm having trouble understanding what yo
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:43 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Again, in the olpcfs design we provide a vfat-like metadata structure
> (mounted via FUSE) so that the filesystem on the USB key appears to
> the journal code just like the flash does. No FUSE is necessary to
> see t
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The OLPC never encouraged her to use names for her
> > documents, anyway;
>
> How so? Every activity has a field for naming the activity instance
> and individual documents can be named (and tagged) as in the case of
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 9:59 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 7 May 2008, Jim Gettys wrote:
>> We must fix this Help greatfully appreciated. It isn't very much
>> work to get there from here.
>
> at the moment it doesn't seem as if there's agreement yet that this does
> need to get fi
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:39 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> H, sorry, run that past me again. I thought the intention was that
> the Journal was an integral part of the Sugar UI, and the plan was
> that the Journal code was going to be integrated to the Sugar Shell
> for (I think
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what about Sugar software running as well as possible on normal linux
> boxes? without having to install the full sugar package and run
> everything under sugar in one window. this doesn't mean that some
> libraries won't need to be ins
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:35 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> in part the other response to my message that seemed to have the attitude
> that 'fixing' the problem would reduce Sugar to 'just another WM' rendering
> it worthless.
That's not how I read Greg post but anyway...
> there have been ot
Bobby Powers wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> FUSE is great, but...
>>
>> It means interoperability must be an explicit planned-in-advance action:
>> if a datastore is already on a removable device
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Development and Testing community,
>
> We have started planning for the next SW releases. The goal is a bug fix
> release in a few weeks (8.1.1), and then the major August release (8.2.0).
> [NOTE: the release numbers are base
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2) Triage bugs to determine which bugs are critical to fix to meet the
> priorities
I spent quite a bit of time on this today, for the Sugar UI modules.
Lots more to be done though...
Marco
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On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Datastore upgrade
>
> Which are the requirements for the DataStore in the August release?
I think it was proposed to focus on backups for August and "address"
stability concerns that way. At this date and with all t
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> have some doubts about http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Priorities-2008
>
> * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities
>
> Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release?
Perso
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > have some doubts about http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Priorities-2008
> >
>
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * More responsive UI - faster launch of activities
> >
> > Is the solution currently in joyride satisfactory for the August release?
>
> I use a recent Joyride on my G1G1. My average time to launch Browse
> (from
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Greg Smith (gregmsmi)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thinking about the "hot corners" pop-up frame thingy, Nepal asked that
> be deprecated and I agree based on my personal experience and that of my
> kids. The only thing I have heard people use it for is the copy
2008/5/16 Steve Holton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Seth Woodworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> With Walter Bender on his own and dedicated to bringing Sugar to every
>> machine on a FOSS stack, and all OLPC produced software being safely GPL'ed,
>> I feel confident that Sugar
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Greg Smith (gregmsmi)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Simon, Marco, Eben et al,
>
> I think the key decision is to default the frame on or off. In addition
> we should have a long term vision for the frame. For example, is it a
> short cut to find things or a first
Kim Quirk wrote:
> I don't believe this is a one person job.
+1
> Here are some suggestions:
>
> * Marco has led the sugar team bug priorities in the past (do you want
> to do that again?).
Yup. Started to do some work on it last week.
Marco
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Please wikify this! :)
There is a note about something like this at the end of the doc page
which would be good to link:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Documentation
Marco
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Morgan Collett
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been thinking about a better portal for down
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:54 PM, Robert Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh, is there any documentation on 'activity.info'? Different instances
> have different fields and it isn't immediately clear to me what they all
> are supposed to do.
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles
Marco
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First step: data to see if there is a problem.
>
> If no problem; stop.
>
> If problem; fix...
>
> ;-).
>
> DBUS, btw, does not have to be inefficient; the wire protocol is sane
> (distinguishing it from Corba, for example).
AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> First step: data to see if there is a problem.
>>>
>>> If no problem; stop.
>>>
>>> If problem; fix..
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Martin Langhoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What about using HAL? Sugar uses it like this:
>>
>> http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=sugar;a=blob;f=src/model/devices/battery.py;h=853d00ec490a0b58ef7f569ac1c9a9ef75228259;hb=HEAD
>
> Looks like a ton of work. cat
> /sys/cl
-find-by-property hal-lock
Perhaps a combination of hal-find-by-* and hal-get-property.
Marco
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Martin Langhoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> But it works
sugar.gtkrc and sugar/graphics/style.py
Marco
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Waqas Toor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I have changed fullscreen mode of Xephyr into 800x600, but now how to
> change the size of frames and icons ?
> I have tried changing sugar-xo.gtkrc file but noth
Note that afaik Sugar is not starting up at the moment in olpc-3. We
should give dgilmore some help...
Marco
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:45 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> A broken build is not a bad t
The problem is that it's trying to load
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/hippo.so instead of the one built in
jhbuild. I don't really understand why that's happening, since
sys.path is correct as we verified in irc.
Marco
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Waqas Toor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> H
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Waqas Toor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Marco,
>
> some body has this same error
> http://pastebin.ca/raw/1019759
>
> i tried dpkg-reconfigure on each and every module of hippo in my
> system but still no luck
>
> I even reinstalled python-hippocanvas bindings but
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Waqas Toor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Waqas Toor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Marco,
>>
Please post the logs for one on the activities which is failing to start...
Marco
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Waqas Toor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tomeu,
>
>
>> Talking with Joel, looks like hippo-canvas only builds the python
>> bindings if the prerequisites are already installed. If no
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Talking with Joel, looks like hippo-canvas only builds the python
> bindings if the prerequisites are already installed. If not, silently
> omits them.
>
> I added python-cairo-dev to the ubuntu dependencies, but perhaps th
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Waqas Toor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Waqas Toor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Tomeu,
>>>
>>>
Talking with Joel, looks like hippo-canvas only builds
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please reply to this mail with any other subjects that you would like us
> to discuss. I'll see if we can fit them in.
Release process for August. Unless we want to start tackling that
after the stable release is out...
M
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Claims
> --
>
> I. There is no excuse for breaking centralized build streams that
> others depend on when one-off 'topic builds' and dedicated build
> streams are available. Please shout loudly whenever you could use a
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My experience over the last few months has been that a centralized
> unstable build stream is worth less than it costs to maintain using the
> tools we've built today because it tends to aggregate changes of widely
> varyin
Relying on email and irc for this seems fragile to me. If a trac query
would reveal the packages which are staged for inclusion in a certain
release, it would be pretty much impossible that they go unnoticed.
Marco
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > on unstable build
>> > streams under the manual control of individuals and teams,
>>
>> How is this different then joyride? Are these topic streams?
>
> As Scott said, Joyride is somewhere between an unstable build strea
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 03:02:17PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
>> Relying on email and irc for this seems fragile to me. If a trac query
>> would reveal the packages which are staged for i
Right now there are several issues that makes it not work. So I
removed it from the mod list for now...
Marco
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to get jhbuild setup on Ubuntu. I have everything working,
> but the tamtam module won't build, and
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