Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005

2005-03-02 Thread Steve Eskow
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Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005

2005-03-02 Thread John Hibbs
Dr. Eskow: Are you saying that reviewing the text of the proposed lecture - or keynote speech - in advance of same is a bad idea? Are you also saying that in today's college (100) classes it is NOT common that there is little or no Question and Answer by the students of the person at the lectern

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005

2005-02-08 Thread Steve Eskow
e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005 Dear Steve: I can't help but

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005

2005-02-08 Thread Steve Eskow
Mr. Hibbs is apparently confused by my gender as well as by the dynamics of good instruction: "perhaps the lady doth protest too much?>> He asked: and answered his own question: <<> >< >listened, in advance, to the lecture at a time convenient to them? Or > >if they had read the text commentary

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005

2005-02-08 Thread Steve Eskow
Taran says: <> Like all advice, Taran, this piece is a mixed blessing. A half truth. At most. I live in a rich community in a rich state in a rich nation. A nation where every message seems to be, throw out something old and try something new every day. So: perhaps we need a counter-movement:

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005

2005-02-08 Thread Taran Rampersad
Steve Eskow wrote: >Taran says: > >route or maybe eating something new. That's the difference between >stagnancy and progress.>> > >Like all advice, Taran, this piece is a mixed blessing. A half truth. At >most. > >I live in a

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005

2005-02-08 Thread John Hibbs
Gee...Steve - what caused the jump from my comment that students and attendees would be more informed if in advance of their time in the classroom, or the lecture hall, they viewed the lecture to a contention (by me? by someone else?) that "technology" is the silver bullet for all the ills in t

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005

2005-02-07 Thread Steve Eskow
MAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005 > At 3:31 PM -0800 2/6/05, Steve Eskow wrote: > > > >My point is that although we call both forms "conferences," they re

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005

2005-02-07 Thread John Hibbs
At 3:31 PM -0800 2/6/05, Steve Eskow wrote: My point is that although we call both forms "conferences," they really have little in common with each other. Better: they ought not to resemble each other, since they are using different technologies with different strengths and weaknesses. The fac-to-f

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005

2005-02-07 Thread Taran Rampersad
Steve Eskow wrote: > >Taran Rampersad writes > > > >>But you see, people are slow to adopt things.< >> >> > >Perhaps this is one of those enduring fictions, helped along as it is by Ev >Rogers' taxonmy of "early adopters" and the like. The speed with which >people all over the world are adop

Re: Question about M2F -- Was Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005

2005-02-07 Thread Taran Rampersad
Kevin Rocap wrote: > You raise an important additional issue, though, around volunteers and > Open Source. I'd say most Open Source solutions do require a bit more > attention to the details of installation than do commercial packages > installed through an Install Shield wizard (or something simi

Re: Question about M2F -- Was Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005

2005-02-07 Thread Kevin Rocap
Dear friends, I initially sent this from a non-subscribed e-mail account, so. Original Message Dear Judy, Hi! Deja vu, eh? I know we reviewed this issue of e-mail-to-forum-to-email on our Community Networking list. This is still the only reference to anyone trying to buil

Re: Question about M2F -- Was Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005

2005-02-07 Thread Taran Rampersad
Judy Hallman wrote: > Kevin Rocap wrote: > >> That saidthere is a module add-in for PHPBB (PHP Bulletin Board) >> called "M2F" designed to crack the nut of "e-mail to forum" and >> "forum to e-mail" communication. The project web page, FYI: >> >> http://m2f.sourceforge.net/ > > > I'm anxious t

Question about M2F -- Was Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005

2005-02-07 Thread Judy Hallman
Kevin Rocap wrote: That saidthere is a module add-in for PHPBB (PHP Bulletin Board) called "M2F" designed to crack the nut of "e-mail to forum" and "forum to e-mail" communication. The project web page, FYI: http://m2f.sourceforge.net/ I'm anxious to try M2F but don't want to be on the blee

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005

2005-02-06 Thread Steve Eskow
Taran Rampersad writes >But you see, people are slow to adopt things.< Perhaps this is one of those enduring fictions, helped along as it is by Ev Rogers' taxonmy of "early adopters" and the like. The speed with which people all over the world are adopting the new technologies is astounding. T

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005

2005-02-06 Thread Taran Rampersad
Steve Eskow wrote: >Steve Eskow wrote: > > >>>The "listserv" is a mode of dialog that fits the genius of the online >>>environment, and thus there are thousands of them, and they will continue >>> >>> >to > > >>>flourish and multiply.>> >>> >>> > >and Taran Rampersad replied: >

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005

2005-02-06 Thread Steve Eskow
Steve Eskow wrote: > > >The "listserv" is a mode of dialog that fits the genius of the online > >environment, and thus there are thousands of them, and they will continue to > >flourish and multiply.>> and Taran Rampersad replied: > > > > > Listservs are self limiting because in propagation, th

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005

2005-02-06 Thread Kevin Rocap
Dear Andy, Tom, et al, Actually Open Source web conferencing systems that also allow interaction via e-mail are hard to find if/when they exist. Actually very few of the commercial packages do this - WebBoard is one commercial product that does - you can actually view and participate in confere

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005

2005-02-05 Thread John Hibbs
Andy's cogitations are always worth hearing about. In this case. as belw, it is a reminder that we should all be very careful about the subject line we use. For instance, I have chosen to continue the subject line "Yale Global Flow..." even though the thread has morfed a long way from the origin

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005

2005-02-04 Thread Taran Rampersad
I agree with defining the functionality. But I would rather define the funtionality without talking about the technologies first. People have a tendency to skew a design by their requirements, and in doing so they leave a lot out. If a person asked me for a vehicle with four doors, I would automat

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005

2005-02-04 Thread Tom Abeles
Hi Andy I would defer to the software experts on this list- I know there are a number of open source asynchronous systems out there. Blogs or weblogs started out as personal journals or musings of individuals. Some have grown a number of similar features to the ones I have suggested and which

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005

2005-02-04 Thread Andy Carvin
Hi Tom, Are any of these tools free or open source? What would you see as the pros and cons of these tools versus having a blog capture DDN list messages? thanks, ac Tom Abeles wrote: Hi Andy Actually, this is done currently in asynchronous conferencing systems where there are a number of option

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005

2005-02-04 Thread Tom Abeles
Hi Andy Actually, this is done currently in asynchronous conferencing systems where there are a number of options. The system can notify a participant that a post has been made and you can "go to" to read and respond, sometimes the post is sent and the system can select how you can respond, eit

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005

2005-02-04 Thread Andy Carvin
Hi Taran, Actually, this is something I've contemplated on and off for the last couple of years. While the current version of the DDN website doesn't allow category tagging in its blogs, we could always use Movable Type, which we have installed on the CMC website (http://cmc.edc.org). Were you

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005

2005-02-04 Thread Taran Rampersad
Steve Eskow wrote: >The "listserv" is a mode of dialog that fits the genius of the online >environment, and thus there are thousands of them, and they will continue to >flourish and multiply. > > Listservs are self limiting because in propagation, they split the attention of people. If all lists

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005

2005-02-04 Thread Steve Eskow
A piece of theory might be useful in thinking about "conferences" online. The time-space geographers and sociologists are teaching us that space and spatial configurations aren't merely containers that hold the events that go on within them, but are "constitutive": that is, they shape, or constitu

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005

2005-02-03 Thread Tom Abeles
John has hit the nail on the head. First, for a "global flow" conference its decidedly being seen through US eyes. Secondly, the home base for the conference organizers is the Yale Law School which further narrows the scope of the conference and finally, as John has so perceptively picked up o

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005

2005-02-03 Thread John Hibbs
At 9:16 AM -0500 2/3/05, Andy Carvin wrote: John, I think that's a little unfair. Arguably, Web based conferences are _different_ than physical ones. Some events work great virtually - others I've seen have been a flop. Forgive me if I left the impressions that virtual conferences should replace

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005

2005-02-03 Thread Sudhir Raghupathy
All: First, please allow me to introduce myself .. my name is Sudhir Raghupathy, and I am a recent MBA graduate from Case Western University in Cleveland, Ohio. I was intrigued by your conversation as it comes at an opportune time to share my view - I agree wholeheartedly with Tom and John :

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005

2005-02-03 Thread Omar Kreger
Gentlemen, This topic to me sounds a bit broad and general. What exactly do you all mean by when you say the flow of information throughout the world. Dose it refer to the media or something else? In many aspects of the world that we live in, the flow of information relating to the media is h

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005

2005-02-03 Thread John Hibbs
At 9:16 AM -0500 2/3/05, Andy Carvin wrote: John, I think that's a little unfair. Arguably, Web based conferences are _different_ than physical ones. Some events work great virtually - others I've seen have been a flop. Forgive me if I left the impressions that virtual conferences should replace

Global Flow of Information [was Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005]

2005-02-03 Thread Taran Rampersad
It's sort of odd to read about technology not being 'comfortable' to many people on the Digital Divide list - there's a definite irony there - and yet it is a reality. It will probably remain a reality in some form or another. But it's also interesting to realize that this lack on the part of peopl

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005

2005-02-03 Thread John Hibbs
With all due respect, Eddan, why do I have to travel to Yale to participate in the conference? Arguably, Web based conferences are better than physical ones. And a whole lot cheaper. Nope, we can't duplicate the warm and fuzzy the comes from shoulder to shoulder linkages at physical conferences

Re: [DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr.1-3, 2005

2005-02-03 Thread Andy Carvin
John Hibbs wrote: With all due respect, Eddan, why do I have to travel to Yale to participate in the conference? Arguably, Web based conferences are better than physical ones. And a whole lot cheaper. John, I think that's a little unfair. Arguably, Web based conferences are _different_ than ph

[DDN] Yale "Global Flow of Information" Conference - Apr. 1-3, 2005

2005-02-03 Thread Eddan Katz
The Information Society Project at Yale Law School is proud to announce that registration is now open for The Global Flow of Information Conference 2005, which will take place on April 1-3, 2005, at the Yale Law School. Please registe