Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

2012-09-19 Thread Brendan
I think too many distros use generic names like this. I like the current names better. - mamemame187 On Sep 19, 2012 11:36 AM, "Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff" < ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote: > I'm all for using debranded apps too, but switching to showing GenericName > instead X-GNOME-Fullname alo

[Elementary-dev-community] Add option in Gala to disable minimize

2012-09-19 Thread Nishant Agrwal
What do you guys think of this: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/gala/+spec/option-to-disable-minimize -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-19 Thread Daniel Foré
Well the idea is that our default apps already more-or-less behave like this and we're kind of pushing 3rd party devs to follow along. But it sounds like overall there is a pretty strong desire for the option to re-enable them for now. Which I think is 100% fair considering we're in the very begin

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

2012-09-19 Thread Daniel Foré
Haha, how did I know this would spawn a huge discussion? Like Cassidy said, I'm solely asking about how we feel about Geary in particular. I think we still need to come up with a more clear criteria of which apps get generic names and which ones get branded names. But it sounds like the general f

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

2012-09-19 Thread Cassidy James
On Sep 19, 2012 2:20 PM, "Darcy Brás da Silva" wrote: > > Ok. this is a tricky subject. From my perspective, I see a great > advantage on de.branded apps it becomes easier to know what the program > does. > On the other end, That's why icons exist, to represent what the > application is/does. Havi

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Making Switchboard plugs translateable

2012-09-19 Thread Alfredo Hernández
I agree. I think that the proper way to do it is to make a single project with different translatable strings for each plug, as when you translate Ubuntu (e.g., https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+lang/en_GB ). On 19 September 2012 19:38, Ivo Nunes wrote: > I agree, we need to mak

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

2012-09-19 Thread Darcy Brás da Silva
Ok. this is a tricky subject. From my perspective, I see a great advantage on de.branded apps it becomes easier to know what the program does. On the other end, That's why icons exist, to represent what the application is/does. Having that said, I think is far more beneficial to have all apps with

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

2012-09-19 Thread Cassidy James
I just want to re-base this discussion on Geary, as that's what Dan is specifically asking about. I'm +1 on branding it as "Mail" on our desktop. We're sort of in the process of moving in that direction. That would mean its full name would be "Mail" and its generic name could be "Email Client" or

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-19 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
I'm sorry, please disregard the previous message. -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-19 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
2012/9/19 Craig > Isn't that kind of like pulling all street signs/traffic lights in excited > anticipation for the day when cars have traffic data projected onto the > windshield via HUD? > Gala's workspace management provides a sufficient alternative right now. But in the long run BFQ and http

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

2012-09-19 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
I'm all for using debranded apps too, but switching to showing GenericName instead X-GNOME-Fullname alone is not sufficient. Okay, let's say we have debranded apps. Now Totem is "Movie Player" and Audience is too. What happens if elementary OS user installs Totem or Ubuntu user installs Audience?

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-19 Thread Craig
Isn't that kind of like pulling all street signs/traffic lights in excited anticipation for the day when cars have traffic data projected onto the windshield via HUD? On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Sam Tate wrote: > In the long run (L+1 or even L+2), I want there to be no difference > between

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

2012-09-19 Thread Sam Tate
Well the name in the about box is just gonna be "Mail" too. It will probably have some elementary copyrights underneath showing that it is in fact out Mail app, and not Ubuntu or GNOME's. Anyway, it will probably be evident just from looking at it that it belongs to elementary. On 19 September 201

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

2012-09-19 Thread David Gomes
I +1 on Daniel and on Sam Tate too. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Mario Guerriero wrote: > As Sam Tate said, all the apps should be so in elementary OS. > > Mario Guerriero > Sent from iPhone 3GS > > On 19/set/2012, at 19:56, Ivo Nunes wrote: > > +1 > > On Qua, Set 19, 2012 at 6:55 , Sam Tat

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

2012-09-19 Thread Mario Guerriero
As Sam Tate said, all the apps should be so in elementary OS. Mario Guerriero Sent from iPhone 3GS On 19/set/2012, at 19:56, Ivo Nunes wrote: > +1 > > On Qua, Set 19, 2012 at 6:55 , Sam Tate wrote: >> I want all the apps to be named what they do, so Dexter becomes Contacts, >> Noise becomes

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-19 Thread Sam Tate
In the long run (L+1 or even L+2), I want there to be no difference between an open and closed app. Computers are fast enough now (esp. with Luna) that you don't really notice the extra delay when you open an app rather than restoring from Minimize. I also want apps to save their state for when you

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

2012-09-19 Thread Ivo Nunes
+1 On Qua, Set 19, 2012 at 6:55 , Sam Tate wrote: I want all the apps to be named what they do, so Dexter becomes Contacts, Noise becomes Music, Midori becomes Web etc. It's so much easier for the users, and is what they'd expect. iOS and Android, OSX and GNOME all follow this trend, and while

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

2012-09-19 Thread Sam Tate
I want all the apps to be named what they do, so Dexter becomes Contacts, Noise becomes Music, Midori becomes Web etc. It's so much easier for the users, and is what they'd expect. iOS and Android, OSX and GNOME all follow this trend, and while we aren't ones for doing something just because everyo

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Making Switchboard plugs translateable

2012-09-19 Thread Ivo Nunes
I agree, we need to make all plugs translatable. IMO creating a project for each plug we want to translate seems wrong, but it may be the only way to do it. On Qua, Set 19, 2012 at 5:26 , Eduard Gotwig wrote: Hey, we need to make all switchboard plugs translateable. Also we need to know how to

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

2012-09-19 Thread ttosttos Sa
In principle, it sounds like the right thing to do from an user perspective. However, I wonder where you draw the line? Do you run the risk of creating more confusion when the Geary string pops up here and there (e.g. about dialog, help, etc). Where do you draw the line in the substitution? --tto

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

2012-09-19 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
Yeah, we already have a long thread about it in list archives. 2012/9/19 Andrea Basso > I'm not opposed, "Mail" sound good. On the other hand I find it > inconsistent that we both have general names (like Files, Mail, Terminal, > etc...) and proper names (like Noise, Scratch, etc...). Using gene

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

2012-09-19 Thread Andrea Basso
I'm not opposed, "Mail" sound good. On the other hand I find it inconsistent that we both have general names (like Files, Mail, Terminal, etc...) and proper names (like Noise, Scratch, etc...). Using generic names may differentiate default apps from third-part ones. On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:5

[Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

2012-09-19 Thread Daniel Foré
Hey guys, I'd like to propose that in elementary we refer to Geary as "Mail" in Slingshot/Dock/etc. Simply because I feel like "Geary" doesn't really have anything to do with Mail and it's original intention was simply to be a code name. Any objections or strong desire to keep it "Geary"? Best R

[Elementary-dev-community] Making Switchboard plugs translateable

2012-09-19 Thread Eduard Gotwig
Hey, we need to make all switchboard plugs translateable. Also we need to know how to use all translations for imported Gnome Control Center Plugs. Some use translations, some not. Pantheon-Shell Plug needs to be translateable. For this I suggest to create a new project for it. Is that ok? -- M