Well the idea is that our default apps already more-or-less behave like this and we're kind of pushing 3rd party devs to follow along.
But it sounds like overall there is a pretty strong desire for the option to re-enable them for now. Which I think is 100% fair considering we're in the very beginnings of this transition period. Rico, would it be terribly difficult to add a key to enable/disable the running indicators instead of relying on setting their size to 0? On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Craig <webe...@gmail.com> wrote: > Isn't that kind of like pulling all street signs/traffic lights in excited > anticipation for the day when cars have traffic data projected onto the > windshield via HUD? > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Sam Tate <s...@mtate.me.uk> wrote: > >> In the long run (L+1 or even L+2), I want there to be no difference >> between an open and closed app. Computers are fast enough now (esp. with >> Luna) that you don't really notice the extra delay when you open an app >> rather than restoring from Minimize. >> I also want apps to save their state for when you re-open them, and for >> the system (not the user) to handle memory management. >> >> However, these are things that need not be addressed now, and I will go >> into in more detail (probably with a blog post) closer to the time. >> >> For now, I much prefer the removal of indicators as it moves us towards >> this vision. >> >> SamTate >> >> >> On 19 September 2012 00:39, ttosttos Sa <ttost...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> +1 on running app indicators unless a simple, _mouse only_ expose for >>> app windows is available (e.g. long hover over dock icon exposing running >>> screens). There are useful apps that don't support tabs and, even for >>> those that do, you may still want to run multiple windows with different >>> parameters (e.g. a browser with private and non-private settings). >>> Switching focus to a particular instance of an app is a bit involved today. >>> >>> --ttosttos >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Daniel Foré <dan...@elementaryos.org>wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Guys, >>>> >>>> I've seen a few mails/reports about the current lack of running app >>>> indicators in Luna. I wanted to get a feel for how people who have been >>>> using Luna for a while feel about it. Namely, is this something people are >>>> complaining about because they expect it and aren't used to it yet, or is >>>> this a real problem? >>>> >>>> Personally, I don't miss them at all. I haven't used them for almost a >>>> year now (When Gala was just a dream haha). Luna is so good on resources >>>> that it hardly matters if an app is open or not and you can easily see if >>>> something is open from Gala's Workspace Overview since minimize isn't part >>>> of our regular workflow. But it also has the added benefit of saving a few >>>> pixels on the bottom of the dock (since our OOTB default is >>>> hide-on-maximize and not intelli or autohide I think keep the dock small is >>>> still important). >>>> >>>> If we do decide that running app indicators are important, would it be >>>> terribly difficult to make this a switch in the desktop plug? We may need >>>> to ask Rico to add a key for this since I think we wouldn't want to have >>>> this update for every user on the system (since the theming is currently >>>> stored globally). Because I do think that there are probably a significant >>>> amount of people for which the running indicators just aren't terribly >>>> useful in Luna and it could still remain as the default. But hey, that's >>>> why I am asking! >>>> >>>> Best Regards, >>>> >>>> Daniel Foré >>>> >>>> elementaryos.org >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org
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