Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-24 Thread Cassidy James
27;re being radical. Thanks in advance for your replies. Sincerely, Victor. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Uday Shankar wrote: I agree with this. Simplicity is what has drawn me to elementary. Let music be music what more? :-) no offense Sent from my Windows Phone From: Cassidy James Se

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-22 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
I suggest sticking to "noise" codename at least for Luna; we can change the name along with the expected refactoring later, and it's be nice to have a way to easily refer to the codebase we have now. The two concurrent LP projects with different codenames would be especially useful in case we choos

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-21 Thread Daniel Foré
t; Thanks in advance for your replies. > > Sincerely, > Victor. > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Uday Shankar wrote: >> I agree with this. Simplicity is what has drawn me to elementary. Let music >> be music what more? :-) no offense >> >> Sent

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-21 Thread Victor Eduardo
be music what more? :-) no offense > > Sent from my Windows Phone > -- > From: Cassidy James > Sent: 11/21/2012 12:01 PM > To: Cody Garver > Cc: xapantu; elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Re

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-21 Thread Uday Shankar
Subject: Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise Music gets a +1 from me as well. Honestly, I think that we either need to keep it Noise or rename it to Music. Changing the name to anything else really seems unnecessary at this point. Regarding the generic name thing, I think that's somethi

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-20 Thread Cassidy James
Music gets a +1 from me as well. Honestly, I think that we either need to keep it Noise or rename it to Music. Changing the name to anything else really seems unnecessary at this point. Regarding the generic name thing, I think that's something we should decide on a per-app basis. Technically its

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-20 Thread Cody Garver
I'm for Music. I also think music is what development should center around and leave podcasts and maybe even radio to separate apps. Podcasts because they really need a store experience, otherwise you'd be better off just subscribing to them in an RSS aggregator. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 20

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-20 Thread Jaap Broekhuizen
I am pretty sure that we already had the Generic Name discussion on this mailing list before? Op di, nov 20, 2012 at 10:15 ,Sam Tate schreef: I'm all for just going the GNOME Direction and calling it "Music". This applies to all other apps (some are already like this, such as Files and Terminal

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-20 Thread Sam Tate
I'm all for just going the GNOME Direction and calling it "Music". This applies to all other apps (some are already like this, such as Files and Terminal). It is just so much simpler for the user to see something like "Web" rather than "Midori" (which has nothing to do with the web). So yeah, "Mus

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-20 Thread Daniel Foré
Just my two cents: It'd be really easy to just call it "Music" and not worry about it any longer haha. I don't think we should translate the name unless we're going with "Music". Translating a "branded" name would kind of defeat the purpose, IMO and (as previously pointed out) could lead to some

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Jose Luis Navarro
@Victor +1 El 19/11/2012 19:42, "xapantu" escribió: > Le 19/11/2012 17:43, Benjamin VanMeggelen a écrit : > > I understand the issue with the translation. From what I understand (as > french being my second language) the translation from Noise to french is > Bruit. I'm not sure if the applicatio

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread xapantu
Le 19/11/2012 17:43, Benjamin VanMeggelen a écrit : I understand the issue with the translation. From what I understand (as french being my second language) the translation from Noise to french is Bruit. I'm not sure if the application titles have been (or will be) translated, but if so "Bruit"

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Jaap Broekhuizen
@David: Just "Midori". But I can recall a discussion on this mailing list about calling certain important apps "File Browser" and "Web Browser" in slingshot, among others. I don't know what the result of that discussion was though. @Victor: Well, we already have a few thousand users, and renamin

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Osman Alperen Elhan
On Mon 19 Nov 2012 07:50:49 PM EET, Victor Eduardo wrote: > Thanks for your replies, I agree with most of the comments. Some > clarifications: > > 1. I'm not proposing Tempo as the new name. We'd still need to > evaluate alternatives. If it were my choice I would have re-named > the player

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Victor Eduardo
Thanks for your replies, I agree with most of the comments. Some clarifications: 1. I'm not proposing Tempo as the new name. We'd still need to evaluate alternatives. If it were my choice I would have re-named the player to "Melody" a long time ago. 2. Currently, the *only reason* mot

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread David Gomes
I thought we were doing it already, what is Midori installed under? On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Alfredo Hernández < aldomann.desi...@gmail.com> wrote: > David, if we did that with Noise, it should be done with every elementary > application. > El 19/11/2012 18:02, "David Gomes" escribió: >

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Alfredo Hernández
David, if we did that with Noise, it should be done with every elementary application. El 19/11/2012 18:02, "David Gomes" escribió: > I wouldn't call this a rename. The App name would be Noise, for all > effects, but it would be installed under the name of Media Player. > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread David Gomes
I wouldn't call this a rename. The App name would be Noise, for all effects, but it would be installed under the name of Media Player. On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva < dardeve...@cidadecool.com> wrote: > I think that translating names would only make sense if the names were

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Benjamin VanMeggelen
Those are pretty much my thoughts as well.. I don't think renaming the app for a third time would be productive at this point... It will probably just lead to more confusion. On Nov 19, 2012 11:57 AM, "Darcy Brás da Silva" wrote: > I think that translating names would only make sense if the names

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Darcy Brás da Silva
I think that translating names would only make sense if the names were like 'web browser, media player, and so on' else they are primary nouns and so not translatable. I think there is no gain in changing the name at this point, else then showing project immaturity. At this point the name already

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Benjamin VanMeggelen
I understand the issue with the translation. From what I understand (as french being my second language) the translation from Noise to french is Bruit. I'm not sure if the application titles have been (or will be) translated, but if so "Bruit" gives the same proper description of what Noise is i

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Corentin Noël
Okay, I disagree with you all then because in my language (french) there is two way to pronounce that : In french, and that word exists and means "problems" In english, and that is really hard because there is an double voyel (no-ise) so it's not that good for us. I let the democracy choose, but

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Benjamin VanMeggelen
I also agree that Noise is an appropriate name for the player. I feel that this naming scheme is most relevant to the player, as opposed to Tempo or some of the others that have been mentioned. Noise seems more generic and straight-forward as to what the app is meant to do. On Mon, 19 Nov, 2012

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Felix Akkermans
I also agree with Jaap. Both names are equal to me in communicational value, so definitely not worth the effort and hassle. On 11/19/2012 03:46 PM, Chris Triantafillis wrote: I agree with Jaap and i'm against rename it... Also i don't like Tempo, Noise is much better... 2012/11/19 Jaap Broekh

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Chris Triantafillis
I agree with Jaap and i'm against rename it... Also i don't like Tempo, Noise is much better... 2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen > Don't we already present Noise in the OS as a music player? Doesn't the > icon have the purpose of showing the user what the app probably does? > > IMO "Noise" relates m

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Jaap Broekhuizen
Don't we already present Noise in the OS as a music player? Doesn't the icon have the purpose of showing the user what the app probably does? IMO "Noise" relates more to music than "Tempo" does. Also, if we are going this way with Noise because the name should directly show people what the app d

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread David Gomes
It's trivial to you because you know what Noise is. It's a media player, you know it. For people who don't, it's better if that name it is installed under in the computer is "Music Player" or something like that. It's easier for most people. On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Jaap Broekhuizen | Mo

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
There's a facebook poll somewhere but I don't have an account so I can't access it. 2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen | Mobiel : > What is "many"? Seems like a trivial thing to me... > > -- > Jaap > > "Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff" schreef: > >>2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen : >>> Is there an actual logical

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Jaap Broekhuizen | Mobiel
What is "many"? Seems like a trivial thing to me... -- Jaap "Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff" schreef: >2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen : >> Is there an actual logical reason to rename Noise? > >"Noise" is perceived as something negative by many (the kind of people >who are not crazy about metal or indus

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen : > Is there an actual logical reason to rename Noise? "Noise" is perceived as something negative by many (the kind of people who are not crazy about metal or industrial), that's it AFAIK. -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: http

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Alfredo Hernández
I suppose it's because of the Noise-Beatbox issue. El 19/11/2012 13:14, "Jaap Broekhuizen" escribió: > Is there an actual logical reason to rename Noise? > > -- > Jaap > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:59 AM, Victor Eduardo > wrote: > >> Hi everybody, >> >> many months ago we were discussing the p

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Jaap Broekhuizen
Is there an actual logical reason to rename Noise? -- Jaap On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:59 AM, Victor Eduardo wrote: > Hi everybody, > > many months ago we were discussing the possibility of renaming > Noiseto something else. If I recall correctly, > there was a Face

[Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-18 Thread Victor Eduardo
Hi everybody, many months ago we were discussing the possibility of renaming Noiseto something else. If I recall correctly, there was a Facebook poll that resulted in *"Tempo"* being the preferred name. The blueprint is here