On 7/22/10, Mark S. Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:16 PM, David Flanagan
> wrote:
>
>> Allen,
>>
>> The host vs. native distinction has long bothered me as well. Thanks for
>> a
>> particularly lucid explanation. In the next edition of the spec, perhaps
>> you could go further and el
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:16 PM, David Flanagan wrote:
> Allen,
>
> The host vs. native distinction has long bothered me as well. Thanks for a
> particularly lucid explanation. In the next edition of the spec, perhaps
> you could go further and eliminate the use of the word "host" altogether,
>
Allen,
The host vs. native distinction has long bothered me as well. Thanks
for a particularly lucid explanation. In the next edition of the spec,
perhaps you could go further and eliminate the use of the word "host"
altogether, leaving you with only native objects and non-native objects.
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Allen Wirfs-Brock <
allen.wirfs-br...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark S. Miller [mailto:erig...@google.com]
> > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:02 PM
> > >
> >> Do we?? What do you think "host object" means?
> >
> > Objects that a
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark S. Miller [mailto:erig...@google.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:02 PM
> >
>> Do we?? What do you think "host object" means?
>
> Objects that are not native objects. I.e., the categories are disjoint and
> Garrett's
> isHostObject method is correct.
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Allen Wirfs-Brock <
allen.wirfs-br...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark S. Miller [mailto:erig...@google.com]
> ...
> > Is the following one of those cases:
> >
> > > The value of the [[Class]] internal property of a host object
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark S. Miller [mailto:erig...@google.com]
...
> Is the following one of those cases:
>
> > The value of the [[Class]] internal property of a host object
> > may be any String value except one of "Arguments", "Array",
> > "Boolean", "Date", "Error", "Function"
On 7/18/10, Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Garrett Smith [mailto:dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com]
>>
>> I hope the same can be said for the bug related to catch clauses and scope
>> in
>> IE9.
>>
> Bugs are for reporting and fixing...it's been reported but if you're ever
>
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Allen Wirfs-Brock <
allen.wirfs-br...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> So essentially, they are two kinds of host objects: native host objects
> and non-native host objects. The spec. doesn’t explicitly talk about native
> host objects because their hostness is semantical
> -Original Message-
> From: Garrett Smith [mailto:dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com]
>
> I hope the same can be said for the bug related to catch clauses and scope in
> IE9.
>
Bugs are for reporting and fixing...it's been reported but if you're ever
unsure it never hurts to report it via http://co
On 7/18/10, Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote:
>>> The more important issue is our intent regarding the definitions of
>>> "host" and "native" objects.
>
> First regarding, alert in IE. Historically it is what it is and nobody
> should make any assumptions concerning the future based upon previous
> versio
lt-in object "class" instance)
can be a host object but if it is, it must be a native host object. That is, it
most fully implement the specific semantics for that kind of object.
Allen
From: Mark S. Miller [mailto:erig...@google.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:52 AM
To: Allen Wirfs-Br
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>
> Allen
>
>
>
> *From:* es-discuss-boun...@mozilla.org [mailto:
> es-discuss-boun...@mozilla.org] *On Behalf Of *Mark S. Miller
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:54 PM
> *To:* Garrett Smith
> *Cc:* es5-disc...@mozilla.org; es-discuss
> *Subject:* Re: [[Class
, July 17, 2010 12:54 PM
To: Garrett Smith
Cc: es5-disc...@mozilla.org; es-discuss
Subject: Re: [[Class]] Property of Host Object
In short, I largely agree with you about the language in the ES5 spec text. My
interpretation of that text derives in large part from my memories of the
conversations
In short, I largely agree with you about the language in the ES5 spec text.
My interpretation of that text derives in large part from my memories of the
conversations that led up to it, and my sense of the intent we were trying
to capture. In the absence of that context, I would probably arrive at
On 7/17/10, Mark S. Miller wrote:
> [+es5-discuss as a possible errata issue arises below]
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Garrett Smith
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/16/10, Mark S. Miller wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Garrett Smith
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have a question reqarding [
[+es5-discuss as a possible errata issue arises below]
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Garrett Smith wrote:
> On 7/16/10, Mark S. Miller wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Garrett Smith
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I have a question reqarding [[Class]] property as defined In ES5:
> >>
> >> |
On 7/16/10, Mark S. Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Garrett Smith
> wrote:
>
>> I have a question reqarding [[Class]] property as defined In ES5:
>>
>> | The value of the [[Class]] internal property of a host object
>> | may be any String value except one of "Arguments", "Array",
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Garrett Smith wrote:
> I have a question reqarding [[Class]] property as defined In ES5:
>
> | The value of the [[Class]] internal property of a host object
> | may be any String value except one of "Arguments", "Array",
> | "Boolean", "Date", "Error", "Function",
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