[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > Let's not forget the last study putsch: the TM is good for your heart > > marketing campaign. Luckily the BBC caught them on that one, as did > > some physicians reviews.

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > You are assuming a conclusion that > simply can't be assumed. We have no idea as to whether TM > successfully produces enlightenment or "unity consciousness." The > TMO does not say that out of X number of meditators, Y have reach

[FairfieldLife] Interesting approach to economic hard times

2009-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
This UK (I think) student is auctioning off her virginity to the highest bidder to pay for her Masters degree in Family and Marriage therapy. She has received offers of up to 3.7 million dollars. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/4222155/Student-auctions-off-virginity-for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interested in learning Sanskrit?

2009-01-13 Thread cardemaister
http://www.americansanskrit.com/read/a_memory.php by Vyaas Houston, M.A. Imagine! Thousands of years ago, Sanskrit thrived in an age where there was no written word. No books, no magazines, newspapers, no mail let alone junk mail, no signs, no ads, no computers. Vast amounts of information were

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interested in learning Sanskrit?

2009-01-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > In case you are interested in learning Sanskrit, > I think I can recommend Thomas Egenes' Introduction > to Sanskrit Part One. I got Part Two a couple of > Xmas ago. Just started reading it more systematically, > or stuff. It's IMO v

[FairfieldLife] Update on Ted Haggard's gay "cure"

2009-01-13 Thread do.rflex
Asked whether he could define his sexual identity, Haggard said: "The stereotypical boxes don't work for me. My story's got some gray areas in it. And, of course, I'm sad about that but it's the reality." [...] Asked to expand on his attitude toward homosexuality, Haggard said, "I believe all hu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread Vaj
On Jan 12, 2009, at 9:42 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: Let's not forget the last study putsch: the TM is good for your heart marketing campaign. Luckily the BBC caught them on that one, as did some physicians reviews. But it makes me wonder: shou

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > No worries, the Buddhist's are too busy feeling "spescial". > > > > Maharishi would never ask anyone in Enlightenment to publiscise his/her > > state of freedom. >

[FairfieldLife] Dome numbers Drop in FF

2009-01-13 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Big Shift, big-shots abandon their posts to big-wig 12Jan celebration in Europe. 11 January Fairfield/MVC 1711 1938 10 January Fairfield/MVC 1730 1936 09 January Fairfield/MVC 1759 2018 08 January Fairfield/MVC 1732 2063 07 January Fairfield/MVC 1806 2073 06 January Fairfield/MVC 179

[FairfieldLife] War reporting ain't like selling ballcock assemblies

2009-01-13 Thread do.rflex
I've been very lucky in the past to have such conservative superstars as John McCain and Sarah Palin guest post here. Today, another one joins the Jesus' General family. Please welcome Joe the Plumber. -- Gen. JC Christian, patriot ~War reporting ain't like selling ballcock assemblies~ I'm le

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread raunchydog
Requiring natural remedies to produce verifiable research is a bogus excuse to demonize their use. The politics of allelopathic medicine and the globalization Big Pharma push pills for profit and "alternative medicine" cuts into their bottom line. Since herbs and homeopathy, rely on history, case

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 13, 2009, at 3:11 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > So I'm asking out of curiosity. I *understand* the > scientist's/medical doctor's skepticism of home- > opathy -- we are talking substances so diluted in > strength that no trace of them can be found in > the pills prescribed. And yet they work, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican and Limbo

2009-01-13 Thread Duveyoung
"John" wrote: > I've heard that the Vatican no longer believes in the existence of > Limbo. So, those unbaptized babies who died in the past have gone to > heaven, we can assume. John, Not sure if you're posting with relief or with sarcasm -- probably sarcasm -- but if anyone reading this thi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican and Limbo

2009-01-13 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > To All: > > I've heard that the Vatican no longer believes in the existence of > Limbo. So, those unbaptized babies who died in the past have gone to > heaven, we can assume. > What they believe doesn't have much to do with what is.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome numbers Drop in FF

2009-01-13 Thread feste37
In a town of 9,500 people, these numbers are HUGE. Everyone deserves congratulations for doing what it takes to maintain superradiance, now in its 30th year. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" wrote: > > Big Shift, > > big-shots abandon their posts to big-wig 12Jan celebrat

[FairfieldLife] PC vs. Mac

2009-01-13 Thread Marek Reavis
http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/linkdump-january-2009/

[FairfieldLife] Barenaked Ladies

2009-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
Sorry to disappoint some here, but this post is not about bare, naked ladies, but the Canadian pop group Barenaked Ladies. They've done some pop- ular songs, including one that was a big hit for them called "One Week," known for its fast-paced rap-like lyrics, under a catchy pop tune. Well, have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican and Limbo

2009-01-13 Thread Duveyoung
"John" wrote: > I've heard that the Vatican no longer believes in the existence of > Limbo. So, those unbaptized babies who died in the past have gone to heaven, we can assume. John, Not sure if you're posting with relief or with sarcasm -- probably sarcasm -- but if anyone reading this thinks

[FairfieldLife] flying is in the air...

2009-01-13 Thread claudiouk
'Anti-gravity' yoga taking off http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7820726.stm Flying cars take to the skies http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7826330.stm and http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/12012009/36/flying-car-takes-skies-0.html meanwhile everyone else is crashing down fast, except TMO thinks eve

[FairfieldLife] Hearing for New Sec. of State

2009-01-13 Thread raunchydog
C-Span Live Video http://tinyurl.com/79dem7

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican and Limbo

2009-01-13 Thread Vaj
On Jan 13, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Duveyoung wrote: How does a religion atone for a mistake that's twisted the dogma of working-folk's daily POV? How many offerings should the church return to all those distraught parents who paid money, time and emotional indulgence in the concept "limbo?" It cann

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread enlightened_dawn11
you are entitled to your uninformed opinion, and your arrogant attitude ("TM apologists", etc.), and that is all it is. the practice of TM, for anyone who stuck with it, turns out to be everything the Maharishi said it was, and more. of course with your limited practice of the technique (30 YE

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread authfriend
There's an assumption being made here that isn't necessarily correct: that the fact that the TMO *does* not produce "representatives" of enlightened TMers means that it *cannot* do so, the corollary assumption being that it cannot do so because there aren't any. There are various reasons why the T

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: This topic rocks and I can't wait for Ruth to weigh in. > > Requiring natural remedies to produce verifiable research is a bogus > excuse to demonize their use. I would prefer putting them in the "I don't know" category rather than demon

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barenaked Ladies

2009-01-13 Thread Duveyoung
Whenever I get a song going in my head that I cannot stop, I go to any of the songs below and listen to (usually only one song is all it takes) them to counterbalance my nervous system's obsession by giving it another song to compete for my brain's attentioning. I use the below list of songs that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread Arhata Osho
Having been in Corporate Sales in Manhattan, I had friends both in Advertising and Pharmaceutical Sales.  Sales is about making money - from idea to finished product, it's about money.  The buyer, should be about 'awareness'.  Awareness, hopefully, creates responsibility in a drugged out world!

[FairfieldLife] New Indian News Service; Maha Media

2009-01-13 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.mahamedians.com/

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
> Thanks for pondering this, and for your reply if > you have one. I'm really not trying to "challenge" > you or put you on the spot, and I *agree* with > your assessment of the NIH Center for Complementary > and Alternative Medicine as it currently works. I'm > just asking because of my friend's

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
billy jim wrote: > He was the pandit with the fan that had > various devabijakshara on the fan folds... > It would seem that the Marshy got confused - instead of extolling the Vedas, he should have been promoting the tantras. Apparently there are no 'bija' mantras memtioned in the Rig Veda. In

[FairfieldLife] The Inquisition gets to ¨certify¨ miracles now

2009-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
Since stories about the Vatican have been in the air on FFL today, here´s another one. For personal reasons having to do with my interest in the medieval period, I follow the history of the Office of the Holy Inquisition with some interest. It lasted for *600 years* and was only eliminated from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barenaked Ladies

2009-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Nothing like oldies but goodies, but I sure wish I could honestly tap > my foot in time with today's music with a passion that long ago was > attenuated by many notches. > > Someone like Curtis may be expected to have had a larger view of

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
> These assumptions and that conclusion may be > correct, but we don't *know* that for sure, and > we shouldn't pretend we do. Maybe there are ways > we could rule out the other possibilities, but > we can't do that if we don't acknowledge their > existence. While I agree with what you have writte

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: > > you are entitled to your uninformed opinion, and your arrogant > attitude ("TM apologists", etc.), and that is all it is. > > the practice of TM, for anyone who stuck with it, turns out to be > everything the Maharishi said i

[FairfieldLife] Evolution of Dance 2 --- was: Re: Barenaked Ladies

2009-01-13 Thread Duveyoung
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inLBPVG8oEU I'm happy to report that, old fogey or not, I apparently have kept up with music enough that the above "compendium of dance styles" is still completely recognizable to meall the songs and all the styles of dance. Sure wish Napoleon Dynamite had this

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Inquisition gets to ¨certify¨ miracles now

2009-01-13 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > Since stories about the Vatican have been in > the air on FFL today, here´s another one. > > For personal reasons having to do with my > interest in the medieval period, I follow > the history of the Office of the Holy > Inquisition wi

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > These assumptions and that conclusion may be > > correct, but we don't *know* that for sure, and > > we shouldn't pretend we do. Maybe there are ways > > we could rule out the other possibilities, but > > we can't do that if we

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Inquisition gets to ¨certify¨ miracles now

2009-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > Since stories about the Vatican have been in > > the air on FFL today, here´s another one. > > > > For personal reasons having to do with my > > interest in the medieval pe

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj wrote: > That was one of MMY's great suits, he > could hunt down and find the best gurus, > pandits and vaidyas... > Maybe it was the pundits that 'hunt down' the Marshy, Vaj - Dr. Dwivedi, Dr. Triguna, Dr. Balaraj Maharishi, Pandit Hariprasad Chaurasia, Debu Chaudhuri, and Pandit Shivku

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > wrote: > > > > you are entitled to your uninformed opinion, and your arrogant > > attitude ("TM apologists", etc.), and that is all it is. > > > > the practice of TM, for

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Inquisition gets to ¨certify¨ miracles now

2009-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > Is the "New Inquisition's" approach to someone > claiming to have had the same experiences that > literally hundreds of saints have had by sil- > encing those who claim such things interesting? > You betcha. > > Is the fact that it's simi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome numbers Drop in FF

2009-01-13 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > In a town of 9,500 people, these numbers are HUGE. Everyone deserves > congratulations for doing what it takes to maintain superradiance, now > in its 30th year. Yeah, what a resounding success the Siddhis program has been, in spite of t

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
billy jim wrote: > We had a discussion at the time about where > Maharishi could have obtained his meditation > bija-mantras... > The Adi Shankara described the yogic path in his vartika on the commentary on Yoga Sutras by Vyasa. Shankaracharya has also explained the mantra and tantra in his

[FairfieldLife] Bogus credit card charge hits millions--check your statements!

2009-01-13 Thread authfriend
Mysterious credit card charge may have hit millions of users By Mitch Lipka, Globe Correspondent | January 11, 2009 Several Internet complaint boards are filled with comments from credit card customers from coast to coast who have noticed a mysterious charge for about 25 cents on their statemen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting approach to economic hard times

2009-01-13 Thread feste37
She is an attractive young lady but I would offer no more than $400, and that would have to be for a whole night. Virginity is overrated, in my opinion, since in all other occupations inexperience is considered a drawback and lowers what one can expect to receive in compensation. I don't see why se

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > While I agree with what you have written, I still > > think it is up to the movement to provide the > > evidence for its claims. They are selling a > > product after all. And it is making very > > substantial claims for that pr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting approach to economic hard times

2009-01-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > She is an attractive young lady but I would offer no more than $400, > and that would have to be for a whole night. This chick is a 3 Chardonnay MAX investment. Sooo true! > in my opinion, since in all other occupations inexperience

[FairfieldLife] Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
It seems to me that many of the threads in the last few days (as, in fact, many of the threads throughout FFL's whole history) have dealt with the same face-off between Faith and Proof. In the realm of "enlightenment," what we've seen is a contingent here who seem to feel passion- ately that req

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Inquisition gets to ¨certify¨ miracles now

2009-01-13 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > Since stories about the Vatican have been in > the air on FFL today, here´s another one. Vaguely related... The BBC recently ran a rather odd supernatural drama called "Apparitions" starring Martin Shaw as a maverick exorcist battling

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Vaj
On Jan 13, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Vaj wrote: That was one of MMY's great suits, he could hunt down and find the best gurus, pandits and vaidyas... Maybe it was the pundits that 'hunt down' the Marshy, Vaj - Dr. Dwivedi, Dr. Triguna, Dr. Balaraj Maharishi, Pandit Harip

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Paul Mason
Does pandit Hari P actually extol TM publicly? He played his flute at a local church a few months back. Image that, this great superstar coming to St Ives Cornwall --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > Vaj wrote: > > That was one of MMY's great suits, he

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread billy jim
Back in the mid-80's Korean Zen master Seung Sahn Nim, while guiding a retreat, was asked whether Master Hsuan Hua was a Zen Master. Seung Sahn Nim described him as a Tripitaka master. He considered him important for his role in inspiring young Americans to take up Dharma practice in a manner s

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > While I agree with what you have written, I still > > > think it is up to the movement to provide the > > > evidence for its claims. They are selling

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Paul Mason
Allegedly, in 2006 journalists were offered backsheesh flights etc to go interview Maharishi at Vlodrop, but there were few takers, in fact I recall only two writers who accepted the King's Shilling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 13, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Richard

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" wrote: > > Does pandit Hari P actually extol TM publicly? > He played his flute at a local church a few months back. Image that, > this great superstar coming to St Ives Cornwall I wish I'd known! That's not far for me http://tinyurl.com/9

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Paul Mason
Allegedly, in 2006 journalists were offered backsheesh flights etc to go interview Maharishi at Vlodrop, but there were few takers for the King's Shilling, in fact I recall only two newpaper columnists popping over at that time and it not known whether they were press- ganged. --- In Fairfiel

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > > wrote: > > > > > > you are entitled to your uninformed opinion, and your arrogant > > > attitu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > It seems to me that many of the threads in the > last few days (as, in fact, many of the threads > throughout FFL's whole history) have dealt with > the same face-off between Faith and Proof. > > In the realm of "enlightenment," what w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > -snip- > And for some, Faith *IS* "enough." They continue > to believe today the same stuff they were told 30 > or more years ago, and they believe it *without* > the benefit of any Proof. And interestingly these > people seem to think th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: > They believed Maharishi when he told > them that TM produced enlightenment... > It's been so long now, that I don't even think you remember what exactly the Marshy said. It's been what, thirty or more years since you even heard the guy speak? According to the Marshy, it is

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > Not according to Maharishi. He seemed to believe > > that TM practice would improve all aspects of a > > person in a measurable way. So I don't think it is > > a category error. > > Yes, but what I'm talking about is whether a per

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > billy jim wrote: > > We had a discussion at the time about where > > Maharishi could have obtained his meditation > > bija-mantras... > > > The Adi Shankara described the yogic path in his > vartika on the commentary on Yo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread yifuxero
-This is a form of Neo-Advaitinism, not the Marshy's teachings. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > They believed Maharishi when he told > > them that TM produced enlightenment... > > > It's been so long now, that I don't even > think yo

[FairfieldLife] Science that makes the TMO research look legit

2009-01-13 Thread mainstream20016
When I read the Wash. Post this morning, I felt spoofed - the graphic :http://tiny.cc/VvXC2 the article: http://tiny.cc/Ihi3Z

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican and Limbo

2009-01-13 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > "John" wrote: > > I've heard that the Vatican no longer believes in the existence of > > Limbo. So, those unbaptized babies who died in the past have gone > to heaven, we can assume. > > John, > > Not sure if you're posting with reli

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: But according to Maharishi's own > standards it has also failed. He set the bar high at mastery of > sidhis and never retracted this objective test for enlightenment. And > saying that guys like Tony can fly but don't choose too i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > They believed Maharishi when he told > > them that TM produced enlightenment... > > > It's been so long now, that I don't even > think you remember what exactly the Marshy > said. It's been what, thirty

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
Paul Mason wrote: > He played his flute at a local church a few > months back. Image that, this great superstar > coming to St Ives Cornwall > Pandit Hariprasad Chaurasia Saturday, February 8, 2003 at 7:00 PM Bates Recital Hall University of Texas at Austin

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > If so, they must have been VERY impressed > > with the TM program. > > Vaj wrote: > Think of them as "paid consultants"-- that's > the impression I get from those familiar. > Yeah, sad that the 'world master of Indian music' was so impressed by the money that he recorded a series of sixteen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > It is NOT the practice of taking that > > direction. NOT THE PRACTICE. It is the > > nature of the mind to move in a direction > > of greater happiness. The practice is not > > needed to reach the goal. > > yifuxero wrote: > This is a form of Neo-Advaitinism, not the > Marshy's teachings. > S

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > It's been so long now, that I don't even > > think you remember what exactly the Marshy > > said. It's been what, thirty or more years > > since you even heard the guy speak? > > boo wrote: > You go and post a quote from "Marshy" from > 37 yrs ago. > > If in fact you've been listening

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
BillyG wrote: > For some on this forum, facts don't matter > if they don't concur with their previously > drawn conclusions. The below information is > largely factual and yet the lies continue, > lies which the media carry with alacrity > and the cowardly so-called Palestinians > manufacture

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread yifuxero
--- So Willytex, why is what Shankara said "the truth". Lakshmanjoo says (p.105 of Kashmir Shaivism): "Vedanta holds that this teaching can only be practiced by "worthy people" such as brahmins which "good qualities". In fact, Samkaracharya holds that Vedanta is meant only for samyasins and

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread authfriend
I'll have to get back to this later for a fuller response, but I just want to make a couple of quick points: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > Again, what I'm after is how to evaluate the claim that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Vaj
On Jan 13, 2009, at 3:41 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: >>> If so, they must have been VERY impressed >>> with the TM program. >>> > Vaj wrote: >> Think of them as "paid consultants"-- that's >> the impression I get from those familiar. >> > Yeah, sad that the 'world master of Indian music' > was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread Bhairitu
Richard J. Williams wrote: > BillyG wrote: > >> For some on this forum, facts don't matter >> if they don't concur with their previously >> drawn conclusions. The below information is >> largely factual and yet the lies continue, >> lies which the media carry with alacrity >> and the coward

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread Arhata Osho
No question.  Can get confusing! Arhata Richard J. Williams wrote: > BillyG wrote: > >> For some on this forum, facts don't matter >> if they don't concur with their previously >> drawn conclusions. The below information is >> largely factual and yet the lies

Re: [FairfieldLife] Aryan migration into India

2009-01-13 Thread Bhairitu
yifuxero wrote: > PBS' Michael Woods traced the origins of the Aryan migration into India > to Turkmenistan, with the assistance of various scholars and indigenous > experts. He cleverly picked up the pieces of circumstantial evidence > (reminding me of the "Reeces Pieces" episode in ET); by fir

[FairfieldLife] Mirror Neurons again

2009-01-13 Thread Vaj
I previously posted about the emerging science on Mirror Neurons: In his recent work _The Mindful Brain: Reflection and Attunement in the Cultivation of Well-Being_, psychiatrist and attachment disorder expert Dan Siegel talks a good bit about how mindfulness meditation is a form of inner at

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > BillyG wrote: > > For some on this forum, facts don't matter > > if they don't concur with their previously > > drawn conclusions. The below information is > > largely factual and yet the lies continue, > > lies which the m

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > You right wingers love the Zionists, because they are right wing > Israelis. To set up the state of Israel where it is makes about as much > sense as if the KKK were to move into East L.A. It was bound to cause > trouble. Before the

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > what thype of "rigorous > requirements" would you suggest for studies done > on homeopathy? > > I'm asking out of curiosity because a friend of > mine is a homeopath, and has clued me in to some > of the recent attempts to demonize that p

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > regarding the achievement of a state of continuous samadhi, > > > and "shouting it

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > There is a strong desire for the doctor to "do something" when a sick > person visits them. Yes, a problem. One effective way around the problem is telling personal experience stories where you as the MD or your kids did not tak

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > > -snip- > > And for some, Faith *IS* "enough." They continue > > to believe today the same stuff they were told 30 > > or more years ago, and they believe it *withou

[FairfieldLife] Re: FF community chanting Shri Shuktam

2009-01-13 Thread dhamiltony2k5
MP3 of the group chanting http://www.vedavishwa.org/mantras/Sri2.mp3 > > Video on YouTube > > Opening pujas & chanting > > youtube at: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-jwfU0LNJw > > > > > > Chanting the Shri Shuktam > > > > > > Ongoing this weekend, > > > > Morning Star Studio on th

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "I am the eternal" wrote: > > > Maharishi has us listen to the Rig Veda to enliven subatomic particles? > Yeah, sure. Round about the Taste of Utopia I would have not believed that > but out of shear exhaustion would have said, "yeah, well, OK". But that w

[FairfieldLife] Words from the Master

2009-01-13 Thread arhatafreespeech
God couldn't have said it more clearly. Love is just a word that has been reduced to using at 'fast food' burger joints. It's meaning needs be backed  by a feeling of unconditionalness. Arhata Words from the Master Nothing is as misconstrued as love is today. Tod

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread Bhairitu
BillyG. wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > >> You right wingers love the Zionists, because they are right wing >> Israelis. To set up the state of Israel where it is makes about as >> > much > >> sense as if the KKK were to move into East L.A. It w

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread I am the eternal
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:53 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > My experience is similar, though I doubt that I have told as many as > you have told that I used to do TM. > > I sure would like to know the drop out rate. > > I've mentioned to hundreds of people on the plane (front cabin or back cabin),

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Jan 12, 2009, at 8:53 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > > My experience is similar, though I doubt that I have told as many as > > you have told that I used to do TM. > > > > I sure would like to know the drop out rate. > > 95%. > > S

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Jan 12, 2009, at 8:53 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > > My experience is similar, though I doubt that I have told as many as > > you have told that I used to do TM. > > > > I sure would like to know the drop out rate. > > 95%. > > S

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread Arhata Osho
Totally proven wrong!> What part of the History of the area do you dispute, that Christ > wasn't a Jew in Judea? "Jesus Christ is the founder of the Christian > Religion. He was a Jew, born in Bethlehem, Judea in approximately 4 > B.C. and died in Jerusalem in 30 A.D." need more History?

[FairfieldLife] OT: My friend can be kept alive just on the POM Pomegranate capsules he's taking

2009-01-13 Thread I am the eternal
http://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/12/13/4018 This is a real, FDA sanctioned phase II study. Yes, Raunch, my friend's fixing to go to MD Anderson once he acquires all the therapies he can before going.

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2009-01-13 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jan 10 00:00:00 2009 End Date (UTC): Sat Jan 17 00:00:00 2009 506 messages as of (UTC) Wed Jan 14 00:11:06 2009 45 enlightened_dawn11 38 authfriend 32 raunchydog 30 TurquoiseB 28 Vaj 28 Arhata Osho 24 I am the eter

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome numbers Drop in FF

2009-01-13 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Now, just in the interest of full disclosure, but really apropos to nothing, you, meaning you Feste, don't still meditate, much less participate in super radiance-right? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > In a town of 9,500 people, these numbers are HUGE. Everyone dese

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > all i am left with is suggesting you try TM for awhile, and draw > your own conclusions. Fair enough. That is all anyone can do. > the so called conventional wisdom is often just conventional, and > not wisdom at all. go out on a l

[FairfieldLife] Re: OT: My friend can be kept alive just on the POM Pomegranate capsules he's taking

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "I am the eternal" wrote: > > http://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/12/13/4018 > > This is a real, FDA sanctioned phase II study. > > Yes, Raunch, my friend's fixing to go to MD Anderson once he acquires all > the therapies he can before

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho wrote: > > Having been in Corporate Sales in Manhattan, Selling my poems and treatises outside of Rockerfeller Center I had friends both in Advertising and > Pharmaceutical Sales. Especially my Asian friends doing caricatures and drawings in T

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Richard Williams
> > Yeah, sad that the 'world master of Indian music' > > was so impressed by the money that he recorded > > a series of sixteen albums for meditation for > > the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. > > Vaj wrote: > It's what I've heard from respected people from > Indian scholars to members of the Shankarach

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > And where in the history of the Roman empire do you find this? Fact is > there is NO such person in their history and they took good records. > Most likely the Jesus myth was concocted by fiction writers for a > morality tales. Some

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