Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-13 Thread Ivan Klymenko
On 12/12/2011 05:47, O. Hartmann wrote: Do we have any proof at hand for such cases where SCHED_ULE performs much better than SCHED_4BSD? I complained about poor interactive performance of ULE in a desktop environment for years. I had numerous people try to help, including Jeff, with

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-13 Thread Andrey Chernov
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:40:48AM +0200, Ivan Klymenko wrote: On 12/12/2011 05:47, O. Hartmann wrote: Do we have any proof at hand for such cases where SCHED_ULE performs much better than SCHED_4BSD? I complained about poor interactive performance of ULE in a desktop environment

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-13 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 13 December 2011 01:00, Andrey Chernov a...@freebsd.org wrote: If the algorithm ULE does not contain problems - it means the problem has Core2Duo, or in a piece of code that uses the ULE scheduler. I observe ULE interactivity slowness even on single core machine (Pentium 4) in very

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-13 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 02:47:57PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: Not fully right, boinc defaults to run on idprio 31 so this isn't an issue. And yes, there are cases where SCHED_ULE shows much better performance then SCHED_4BSD. [...] Do we have any proof at hand for such cases where

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-13 Thread O. Hartmann
On 12/12/11 16:13, Vincent Hoffman wrote: On 12/12/2011 13:47, O. Hartmann wrote: Not fully right, boinc defaults to run on idprio 31 so this isn't an issue. And yes, there are cases where SCHED_ULE shows much better performance then SCHED_4BSD. [...] Do we have any proof at hand for

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-13 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:13:42PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: On 12/12/11 16:13, Vincent Hoffman wrote: On 12/12/2011 13:47, O. Hartmann wrote: Not fully right, boinc defaults to run on idprio 31 so this isn't an issue. And yes, there are cases where SCHED_ULE shows much better

Re: [RFC] winbond watchdog driver for FreeBSD/i386 and FreeBSD/amd64

2011-12-13 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 13. Dec 2011, at 00:01 , Keith Simonsen wrote: On 12/12/2011 12:25, Mike Tancsa wrote: On 12/12/2011 2:49 PM, Keith Simonsen wrote: I've been using 20110718-02-wbwd.diff for a few months now on a project with PC Engines Alix 1.d boards (http://pcengines.ch/alix1d.htm). They have a

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-13 Thread O. Hartmann
On 12/12/11 16:51, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 02:47:57PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: Not fully right, boinc defaults to run on idprio 31 so this isn't an issue. And yes, there are cases where SCHED_ULE shows much better performance then SCHED_4BSD. [...] Do we have any proof

Re: NFS + SVN problem?

2011-12-13 Thread Rick Macklem
Dimitry Andric wrote: On 2011-11-23 19:26, Sean Bruno wrote: On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 09:58 -0800, Rick Macklem wrote: I don't know if Dimitry tried this, but you could also try the nolockd option, so that byte range locking is done locally in the client and avoids the NLM. Good luck

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-13 Thread Steve Kargl
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 02:23:46PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: On 12/12/11 16:51, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 02:47:57PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: Not fully right, boinc defaults to run on idprio 31 so this isn't an issue. And yes, there are cases where SCHED_ULE shows much

8.2-9.prerel: gmirror failed with error 19

2011-12-13 Thread Randy Bush
csup make buildworld make kernel boot single root mount waiting for: usbus4 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/boota [rw]... mountroot: waiting for device /dev/mirror/boota ... Mounting from ufs:/dev/mirror/boota failed with

Re: [CFT] pkgng alpha2

2011-12-13 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 30/11/2011 22:32 Julien Laffaye said the following: [1] : https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng/issues [2] : https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng [3] : http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng [4] : http://people.freebsd.org/~bapt/pkgng-bsdcan2011.pdf [5] :

Re: [CFT] pkgng alpha2

2011-12-13 Thread Julien Laffaye
On 12/13/2011 06:16 PM, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 30/11/2011 22:32 Julien Laffaye said the following: [1] : https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng/issues [2] : https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng [3] : http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng [4] : http://people.freebsd.org/~bapt/pkgng-bsdcan2011.pdf [5] :

Re: grabbing console (syscons) in kernel

2011-12-13 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 11/12/2011 23:45 Andriy Gapon said the following: There are a few cases when the kernel needs to interact with a user via syscons. This is the cases where the kernel not only spews some output but also expects some input. Some examples are: - asking for a root filesystem specification

Re: [CFT] pkgng alpha2

2011-12-13 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 13/12/2011 19:22 Julien Laffaye said the following: On 12/13/2011 06:16 PM, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 30/11/2011 22:32 Julien Laffaye said the following: [1] : https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng/issues [2] : https://github.com/pkgng/pkgng [3] : http://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng [4] :

RC3 won't boot after install

2011-12-13 Thread jeffrey stein
HelloŠat the suggestion of Bjoern i'm using this forum to help resolve and test this issue. I'm using the 9rc3 memstick img file to do an install on a Samsung Chronos 7, brand new. The install booted from the usb and answered defaults for all the install questions. Even went to the shell with no

RC3 won't boot after install

2011-12-13 Thread jeffrey stein
HelloŠ I'm using the 9rc3 memstick img file to do an install on a Samsung Chronos 7, brand new. The install booted from the usb and answered defaults for all the install questions. Even went to the shell with no problem. When it got to the end of the install and asked to reboot, I clicked ok.

mount -u /path/containing/a/symlink broken in 9.0

2011-12-13 Thread Colin Percival
Hi all, I just discovered after upgrading the portsnap buildbox from 8.2 to 9.0-rc3 that # mount -u /path/containing/a/symlink now fails with 'not currently mounted'. Can anyone tell me if this change was deliberate? -- Colin Percival Security Officer, FreeBSD | freebsd.org | The power to

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-13 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 12/13/2011 10:54 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: I have given the WHY in previous discussions of ULE, based on what you call legacy benchmarks. I have not seen any commit to sched_ule.c that would lead me to believe that the performance issues with ULE and cpu-bound numerical codes have been

Re: CVS removal from the base

2011-12-13 Thread Doug Barton
On 12/11/2011 06:14, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Doug Barton wrote: On 12/02/2011 04:35, Adrian Chadd wrote: I think you're missing the point a little. The point is, you have to keep in mind how comfortable people feel about things, and progress sometimes makes people uncomfortable. I think you

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-13 Thread Doug Barton
On 12/13/2011 13:31, Malin Randstrom wrote: stop sending me spam mail ... you never stop despite me having unsubscribeb several times. stop this! If you had actually unsubscribed, the mail would have stopped. :) You can see the instructions you need to follow below.

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-13 Thread Jilles Tjoelker
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:40:48AM +0200, Ivan Klymenko wrote: If the algorithm ULE does not contain problems - it means the problem has Core2Duo, or in a piece of code that uses the ULE scheduler. I already wrote in a mailing list that specifically in my case (Core2Duo) partially helps the

Re: NFS + SVN problem?

2011-12-13 Thread Sean Bruno
On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 07:53 -0800, Rick Macklem wrote: Dimitry Andric wrote: On 2011-11-23 19:26, Sean Bruno wrote: On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 09:58 -0800, Rick Macklem wrote: I don't know if Dimitry tried this, but you could also try the nolockd option, so that byte range locking is done

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-13 Thread Marcus Reid
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 04:29:14PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: On 12/12/2011 05:47, O. Hartmann wrote: Do we have any proof at hand for such cases where SCHED_ULE performs much better than SCHED_4BSD? I complained about poor interactive performance of ULE in a desktop environment for years.

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-13 Thread Ivan Klymenko
В Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:04:42 +0100 Jilles Tjoelker jil...@stack.nl пишет: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:40:48AM +0200, Ivan Klymenko wrote: If the algorithm ULE does not contain problems - it means the problem has Core2Duo, or in a piece of code that uses the ULE scheduler. I already wrote in

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-13 Thread Ivan Klymenko
В Tue, 13 Dec 2011 23:02:15 + Marcus Reid mar...@blazingdot.com пишет: On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 04:29:14PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: On 12/12/2011 05:47, O. Hartmann wrote: Do we have any proof at hand for such cases where SCHED_ULE performs much better than SCHED_4BSD? I

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-13 Thread mdf
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Ivan Klymenko fi...@ukr.net wrote: В Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:04:42 +0100 Jilles Tjoelker jil...@stack.nl пишет: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:40:48AM +0200, Ivan Klymenko wrote: If the algorithm ULE does not contain problems - it means the problem has Core2Duo, or

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-13 Thread Ivan Klymenko
В Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:01:56 -0800 m...@freebsd.org пишет: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Ivan Klymenko fi...@ukr.net wrote: В Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:04:42 +0100 Jilles Tjoelker jil...@stack.nl пишет: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:40:48AM +0200, Ivan Klymenko wrote: If the algorithm ULE

Re: multihomed nfs server - NLM lock failure on additional interfaces

2011-12-13 Thread Rick Macklem
John De wrote: Hi Folks, I have a 9-prerelease system where I've been testing nfs/zfs. The system has been working quite well until moving the server to a multihomed configuration. Given the following: nfsd: master (nfsd) nfsd: server (nfsd) /usr/sbin/rpcbind -h 10.24.6.38 -h

about XHCI_PS_PP

2011-12-13 Thread Kohji Okuno
Hi Selasky, I think XHCI_PS_PP is wrong. - #define XHCI_PS_PP 0x0100 /* RW - port power */ + #define XHCI_PS_PP 0x0200 /* RW - port power */ Could you check it? Best regards, Kohji Okuno ___

Re: CVS removal from the base

2011-12-13 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: From: Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:29:02 -0800 Message-id: 4ee7c39e.6040...@freebsd.org Doug Barton wrote: On 12/11/2011 06:14, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Doug Barton wrote: On 12/02/2011 04:35, Adrian Chadd wrote: I think

Re: NFS + SVN problem?

2011-12-13 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dimitry Andric d...@freebsd.org wrote: A very late addition to this: I got Subversion 1.7 to work properly over NFSv3, by making sure rpc.lockd runs on both server and client. E.g, set rpc_lockd_enable to YES in rc.conf; this is off by default, even if you

Re: CVS removal from the base

2011-12-13 Thread Julian Elischer
On 12/13/11 7:49 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi, Reference: From: Doug Bartondo...@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:29:02 -0800 Message-id: 4ee7c39e.6040...@freebsd.org Doug Barton wrote: On 12/11/2011 06:14, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Doug Barton wrote: On

Re: CVS removal from the base

2011-12-13 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Julian Elischer jul...@freebsd.org wrote: On 12/13/11 7:49 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: which brings up teh possibility of 1st class ports.. which are kept more  as part of the system.. (sorry for sounding like a broken  record..) *jumps back into the fray*