On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 12:57:16AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> But in the OP's case, the situation sounds dire given the limitations --
> limitations that someone (apparently not him) chose, which greatly
> hinder debugging/troubleshooting. Had a heterogeneous setup been
> chosen, the debugg
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 08:59:56AM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> on 01/07/2013 21:50 Jeremy Chadwick said the following:
> > The issue is that ZFS on FreeBSD is still young compared to other
> > filesystems (specifically UFS).
>
> That's a fact.
>
> > Nothing is perfect, but FFS/UFS tends
> > to h
on 01/07/2013 21:50 Jeremy Chadwick said the following:
> The issue is that ZFS on FreeBSD is still young compared to other
> filesystems (specifically UFS).
That's a fact.
> Nothing is perfect, but FFS/UFS tends
> to have a significantly larger number of bugs worked out of it to the
> point wher
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On 07/01/13 09:10, Steven Hartland wrote:
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> This says your running a 8.2-RELEASE-p3 kernel not an 8.4-RELEASE
> kernel.
>
> Did the upgrade fail or is that dmesg / uname from your old
> kernel?
Looking at the context, he used freebsd-update t
On Jul 1, 2013, at 19:04, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> But even stable/X doesn't provide enough coverage at times (the recent
> fxp(4)/dhclient issue is proof of that). It's just too bad so many
> people have this broken mindset of what "stability" means on FreeBSD.
As one of the few persons who h
Am 01.07.2013 um 20:56 schrieb "Steven Hartland" :
> - Original Message - From: "Scott Sipe"
>> So I realize that neither 8.2-RELEASE or 8.4-RELEASE are stable, but I
>> ultimately wasn't sure where the right place to go for discuss 8.4 is?
>> Beyond the FS mailing list, was there a bett
- Original Message -
From: "Scott Sipe"
So I realize that neither 8.2-RELEASE or 8.4-RELEASE are stable, but I
ultimately wasn't sure where the right place to go for discuss 8.4 is?
Beyond the FS mailing list, was there a better place for my question? I'll
provide the other requested inf
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 09:10:45PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> on 01/07/2013 20:04 Jeremy Chadwick said the following:
> > People are operating with the belief that "ZFS just
> > works", when reality shows "it works until it doesn't"
>
> That reality applies to everything that a man creates with
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 02:04:24PM -0400, Scott Sipe wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 12:23:45PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote:
> > > On Jul 1, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> > >
> > > > Of course when I see lines like this:
>
on 01/07/2013 20:04 Jeremy Chadwick said the following:
> People are operating with the belief that "ZFS just
> works", when reality shows "it works until it doesn't"
That reality applies to everything that a man creates with a purpose to work.
I am not sure why you are so over-focused on ZFS.
Ple
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 12:23:45PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote:
> > On Jul 1, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> >
> > > Of course when I see lines like this:
> > >
> > > Trying to mount root from zfs:zroot
> > >
> > > ...this grea
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 12:23:45PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote:
> On Jul 1, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 11:35:30AM -0400, Scott Sipe wrote:
> >> *** Sorry for partial first message! (gmail sent after multiple returns
> >> apparently?) ***
> >>
> >> Hello,
On Jul 1, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 11:35:30AM -0400, Scott Sipe wrote:
>> *** Sorry for partial first message! (gmail sent after multiple returns
>> apparently?) ***
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have not had much time to research this problem yet, so please le
- Original Message -
From: "Jeremy Chadwick"
To: "Scott Sipe"
Cc: "freebsd-stable List"
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: ZFS Panic after freebsd-update
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 11:35:30AM -0400, Scott Sipe wrote:
*** Sorry for part
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 08:49:25AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> - Is there a reason you do not have dumpdev defined in /etc/rc.conf (or
> alternately, no swap device defined in /etc/fstab (which will get
> used/honoured by the dumpdev="auto" (the default)) ?
This should have read "or altern
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 11:35:30AM -0400, Scott Sipe wrote:
> *** Sorry for partial first message! (gmail sent after multiple returns
> apparently?) ***
>
> Hello,
>
> I have not had much time to research this problem yet, so please let me
> know what further information I might be able to provid
*** Sorry for partial first message! (gmail sent after multiple returns
apparently?) ***
Hello,
I have not had much time to research this problem yet, so please let me
know what further information I might be able to provide.
This weekend I attempted to upgrade a computer from 8.2-RELEASE-p3 to
Hello,
I have not had much time to research this problem yet, so please let me
know what further information I might be able to provide.
This weekend I attempted to upgrade a computer from 8.2-RELEASE-p3 to 8.4
using freebsd-update. After I rebooted to test the new kernel, I got a
panic. I had to
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