Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-25 Thread Chris Douglas
> I meant, purely in terms of Hadoop putting forward the TLP motion to the > board, with incubator's endorsement.  But let's let options play out and > find out what incubator recommends first.  I wasn't suggesting that Hadoop > would have some additional responsibilities here, in terms of mentorin

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-25 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/25/2010 12:40 PM, Chris Douglas wrote: >> >> But the Incubator doesn't just say yes/no. We can refer this back to Hadoop >> proposing this as a TLP, and even offer the list of mentors as observers, or >> members of the initial PMC. > > The Hadoop PMC is wholly unqualified to manage Chukwa. I

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-25 Thread Chris Douglas
I agree with the analysis from Jerome and Greg. All three of Chukwa's current committers are its original contributors. An important- and often difficult- part of Apache community is growing and managing the developers working on the project. Some experience adding people in the Incubator would be

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-25 Thread Jerome Boulon
Hi, As one of the initial contributor, I still think that the incubator road is the good one even if it's just for a short period of time. The incubator will gives us the ability to get some committers outside of the initial group of people and to mature the project. When we will have reach that

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-25 Thread Greg Reddin
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:34 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > Yes, it seems that Hadoop PMC should supervise the vote for the chair, with > a slightly frustrating cc list of all of the actual committers to chukwa. > That way, nominations and votes for chair are archived on a private list. > > But

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-25 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/25/2010 3:55 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 21:21, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > >> Is anyone in agreement with ant? Otherwise we should just move ahead >> and can hold a separate vote on allowing tlp resource creation at this >> time. >> >> If the proposers want (Eric

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-25 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 21:21, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 6/23/2010 8:12 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 14:45, ant elder wrote: >> >>> IMHO we should insist on using the incubator naming for the Chukwa >>> website/svn/MLs because I think Chukwa should just go directly

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-25 Thread Eric Yang
+1 for 1. Regards, Eric On 6/24/10 12:21 PM, "William A. Rowe Jr." wrote: > On 6/23/2010 8:12 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 14:45, ant elder wrote: >> >>> IMHO we should insist on using the incubator naming for the Chukwa >>> website/svn/MLs because I think Chukwa sh