Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator

2010-09-08 Thread Pid
On 09/09/2010 07:15, Greg Stein wrote: > Just to clarify: I'm assuming you're saying "+1 to the proposal", > rather than to my comment. Correct? +1 indeed, to the proposal +1 actually, to the mailing list comment, too. The Incubator PMC might consider that establishing sufficient interest which

Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator

2010-09-08 Thread Greg Stein
Just to clarify: I'm assuming you're saying "+1 to the proposal", rather than to my comment. Correct? And to clarify for myself: I have no opinion on the proposal itself. I timed out after "Java" and the next few buzzwords. Thankfully, this proposal didn't say "framework" or I may have timed out a

Re: [VOTE] Change name of Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-09-08 Thread Pid
On 08/09/2010 13:44, ant elder wrote: > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: >> Hi, >> >> After much debate both here and on the connectors mailing list, the LCF >> community has voted (see >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-connectors-dev/201008.mbox/browser

Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator

2010-09-08 Thread Pid
+1 (non-binding) Small point: if a Mentor must be a Member, I can't be one, because I'm not. p On 08/09/2010 16:00, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > +1 (Notbinding) > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Greg Stein wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 20:29, Matthew Sacks wrote: >>> ... >> >>> *Mailing

RE: [VOTE] Change name of Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-09-08 Thread Gav...
> -Original Message- > From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsing...@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:18 PM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: [VOTE] Change name of Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache > Connectors Framework > > Hi, > > After much debate both here

Re: [VOTE] Change name of Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-09-08 Thread Glen Daniels
On 9/8/2010 8:44 AM, ant elder wrote: > -0 > > I agree with the comments from David and others such as [1] and the > suggestion at [2] to call it something more abstract like Apache > Connecto. > > Thats IMHO anyway, I'm not sure that the IPMC should be the ones with > binding votes on this but i

Re: [VOTE] Change name of Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-09-08 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Kalle Korhonen wrote: > -0.5 (non-binding), I find the proposed name rather confusing -1. I should probably have listened in (and participated) on the previous discussion, but I agree with Kalle. "Connector" is such a wide term, that I doubt that such community w

Re: [VOTE] Change name of Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-09-08 Thread Michael McCandless
[x] +1 Change the Lucene Connector Framework to the Apache Connector Framework. Mike On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > [x] +1 Change the Lucene Connector Framework to the Apache Connector Framework > > BR, > > Jukka Zitting > > --

Re: [VOTE] Change name of Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-09-08 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, [x] +1 Change the Lucene Connector Framework to the Apache Connector Framework BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apa

Re: [VOTE] Change name of Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-09-08 Thread Kalle Korhonen
-0.5 (non-binding), I find the proposed name rather confusing Kalle On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:18 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: > Hi, > > After much debate both here and on the connectors mailing list, the LCF > community has voted (see > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-connecto

Re: Quick project submission question

2010-09-08 Thread Carl Trieloff
On 09/08/2010 11:06 AM, Scott Wilson wrote: On 8 Sep 2010, at 15:40, Carl Trieloff wrote: > On 09/08/2010 10:29 AM, Scott Wilson wrote: >> On 8 Sep 2010, at 15:13, Carl Trieloff wrote: >> >> >>> What is the view of having a project in Apache that pulls substantial co

Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator

2010-09-08 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Sep 8, 2010, at 1:22 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 20:29, Matthew Sacks wrote: >> ... > >> *Mailing Lists* >> >> kitty-dev >> kitty-commits >> kitty-user >> > > Is there a large user community already? If not, then splitting the > community across dev/user does not make se

Re: Quick project submission question

2010-09-08 Thread Scott Wilson
On 8 Sep 2010, at 15:40, Carl Trieloff wrote: > On 09/08/2010 10:29 AM, Scott Wilson wrote: >> On 8 Sep 2010, at 15:13, Carl Trieloff wrote: >> >> >>> What is the view of having a project in Apache that pulls substantial >>> components >>> that are licensed under ASL as dependencies into the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator

2010-09-08 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
+1 (Notbinding) On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 20:29, Matthew Sacks wrote: >>... > >> *Mailing Lists* >> >> kitty-dev >> kitty-commits >> kitty-user >> > > Is there a large user community already? If not, then splitting the > community across dev/user d

Re: Quick project submission question

2010-09-08 Thread Carl Trieloff
On 09/08/2010 10:29 AM, Scott Wilson wrote: On 8 Sep 2010, at 15:13, Carl Trieloff wrote: What is the view of having a project in Apache that pulls substantial components that are licensed under ASL as dependencies into the code base. I.e. not coping the code, but using components that hav

Re: Quick project submission question

2010-09-08 Thread Scott Wilson
On 8 Sep 2010, at 15:13, Carl Trieloff wrote: > > What is the view of having a project in Apache that pulls substantial > components > that are licensed under ASL as dependencies into the code base. I.e. not > coping the > code, but using components that have been built and maintained elsewhere

Quick project submission question

2010-09-08 Thread Carl Trieloff
What is the view of having a project in Apache that pulls substantial components that are licensed under ASL as dependencies into the code base. I.e. not coping the code, but using components that have been built and maintained elsewhere under ASL but used as dependencies for running. I assu

Re: [VOTE] Change name of Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-09-08 Thread Tim Williams
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: > Hi, > > After much debate both here and on the connectors mailing list, the LCF > community has voted (see > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-connectors-dev/201008.mbox/browser) > and would like to officially change our

Re: [VOTE] Change name of Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-09-08 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: > Hi, > > After much debate both here and on the connectors mailing list, the LCF > community has voted (see > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-connectors-dev/201008.mbox/browser) > and would like to officially change our

[VOTE] Change name of Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-09-08 Thread Grant Ingersoll
Hi, After much debate both here and on the connectors mailing list, the LCF community has voted (see http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-connectors-dev/201008.mbox/browser) and would like to officially change our name to be the "Apache Connectors Framework". We would like the I

Re: No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)

2010-09-08 Thread sebb
On 8 September 2010 12:39, dan haywood wrote: > And another benefit of putting user traffic on the dev list is that > it'll give the devs exposure to any probs that regular users are having with > actually using the framework (ie so we can mature its documentation etc) In ASF projects I would

Re: No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)

2010-09-08 Thread James Carman
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:39 AM, dan haywood wrote: > > For the moment at least the dev community is more active (or at least more > vocal), so their mailing list should be the main focal point.  As I said in > the other email, when we have more user traffic than dev traffic, then > we can vote to

Re: No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)

2010-09-08 Thread dan haywood
On 8 September 2010 12:19, Robert Matthews wrote: > One point against this is that we have had a long-standing user list, ... > > ... People are used to > the user list already. We do, but it's going to change anyway when we make the apache mailing list available. > If we are going to comb

Re: No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)

2010-09-08 Thread dan haywood
On 8 September 2010 12:16, James Carman wrote: > Isn't Isis a different bird though? It has been around for a long time and > is likely to actually have existing users > It has some, but not enough to be sustainable. Hence entry into the incubator to build both its user and developer communiti

Re: No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)

2010-09-08 Thread Robert Matthews
One point against this is that we have had a long-standing user list, and it is the developer list that is new and growing. People are use to the user list already. If we are going to combine the two then I suggest we have a -user list now and let the developers grow out of that. Rob On Wed, 20

Re: No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)

2010-09-08 Thread James Carman
Isn't Isis a different bird though? It has been around for a long time and is likely to actually have existing users On Sep 8, 2010 7:04 AM, "Benson Margulies" wrote: > Well, we could neglect to tell anyone about the user list until we need it. > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Dan Haywood wr

Re: No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)

2010-09-08 Thread Benson Margulies
Well, we could neglect to tell anyone about the user list until we need it. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Dan Haywood wrote: > Isis mentors: > Given we're in the same situation and are still being bootstrapped, should > we follow this advice, ie start off with a combined mailing list for -dev

Re: No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)

2010-09-08 Thread dan haywood
My bad for possibly confusing things, then. Benson got it right when he raised that ticket in the first place. Dan On 8 September 2010 10:33, Gav... wrote: > The private, dev and commits list is all that has been asked for. > > See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2971 > > so your

RE: No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)

2010-09-08 Thread Gav...
The private, dev and commits list is all that has been asked for. See https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2971 so your fine. gav... > -Original Message- > From: mwessend...@gmail.com [mailto:mwessend...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of > Matthias Wessendorf > Sent: Wednesday, 8 Septemb

Re: No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)

2010-09-08 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
+1 especially since incubation is about establishing a developers community -M On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > +1 > > I barely see the users list used in OWB and even in MyFaces ;) > > I'd say an isis-...@incubator.a.o + isis-comm...@i.a.o list would do fine for > now. >

Re: No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)

2010-09-08 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 I barely see the users list used in OWB and even in MyFaces ;) I'd say an isis-...@incubator.a.o + isis-comm...@i.a.o list would do fine for now. LieGrue, strub --- On Wed, 9/8/10, Dan Haywood wrote: > From: Dan Haywood > Subject: Re: No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PR

Re: No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)

2010-09-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Dan Haywood wrote: >  Isis mentors: > Given we're in the same situation and are still being bootstrapped, should > we follow this advice, ie start off with a combined mailing list for -dev > and -user? ... Like Martijn and Greg I think that's a great idea. We ran

Re: No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)

2010-09-08 Thread Dan Haywood
Isis mentors: Given we're in the same situation and are still being bootstrapped, should we follow this advice, ie start off with a combined mailing list for -dev and -user? Dan On 08/09/2010 08:10, Martijn Dashorst wrote: On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Greg Stein wrote: On Tue, Sep 7, 20

No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)

2010-09-08 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 20:29, Matthew Sacks wrote: >>... > >> *Mailing Lists* >> >> kitty-dev >> kitty-commits >> kitty-user >> > > Is there a large user community already? If not, then splitting the > community across dev/user does not make sens