Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: multilib setup

2011-09-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, September 11, 2011 19:10:26 Duncan wrote: > But somehow, it never happened, and over time, as 64-bit became common > and pretty much everything (at least everything freedomware) was ported > and the existing setup worked better and better, the pressure to leave > what was now working rea

[gentoo-dev] A big thanks to Matt Turner for his hard work on Gentoo/MIPS

2011-09-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
Hey all, I just want to take a minute to thank Matt Turner (mattst88) for all his hard work and leadership in keeping Gentoo/MIPS alive within the project. It has been a long, tough road for the MIPS port of Gentoo. Our hardware is quirky, extremely diversified, sometimes archaic, and not the e

Re: [gentoo-dev] fhs and multilib question

2011-09-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 09/11/2011 17:47, Michał Górny wrote: > Looks like n32 is less '32' than o32 so a little weird classification > but I guess historical reasons. In a way, yeah. The gory details are in the N32 ABI guide here, if your curiosity is morbid enough: ftp://ftp.linux-mips.org/pub/linux/mips/doc/ABI2

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2011-09-11 23h59 UTC

2011-09-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2011-09-11 23h59 UTC. Removals: app-crypt/ekey-egd-linux2011-09-05 19:44:13 flameeyes gnome-extra/gget2011-09-06 19:44:19 pva dev-libs/libots 20

[gentoo-dev] Re: multilib setup

2011-09-11 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger posted on Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:55:49 -0400 as excerpted: > all current multilib systems use the sub-profile > features/multilib/lib32/. > in there, we set SYMLINK_LIB=yes. this causes the 32bit libs to move > from their normal ABI location in "lib" to "lib32" and then symlink > "li

Re: [gentoo-dev] fhs and multilib question

2011-09-11 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:04:44 -0400 Joshua Kinard wrote: > MIPS clarification: > o32 ABI (32bit) -> /lib > n32 ABI (32bit w/ full access to 64bit address space/registers) > -> /lib32 > n64 ABI (64bit) -> /lib64 > > In a full-on MIPS multilib, you can have all three folders present and > fil

Re: [gentoo-dev] fhs and multilib question

2011-09-11 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 09/11/2011 12:50, William Hubbs wrote: > Here is what I've found in fhs [2]. > > - /lib should always exist on all architectures. > - /lib64 should only exist on amd64, ppc64, sparc64 and s390x. It > should hold 64 bit libraries, and /lib should hold 32 bit (or 31 bit > on s390x) l

[gentoo-dev] multilib setup

2011-09-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
i dont care what the FHS has to say on the topic, so i havent bothered looking. below is documentation on the current system, and where i plan on taking things in the future. note that this only applies to amd64, ppc64, sparc64, and s390x systems where people think in terms of "32bit" and "64b

Re: [gentoo-dev] punt app-arch/cpio from system

2011-09-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, September 09, 2011 14:47:56 Mike Frysinger wrote: > anyone have a good reason for keeping cpio around in the system profile ? moved to the bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/382633 any other issues should get posted to the bug -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed mes

Re: [gentoo-dev] fhs and multilib question

2011-09-11 Thread James Cloos
> "WH" == William Hubbs writes: WH> Here is what I've found in fhs [2]. [ the fhs's nonsense about lib vs lib32 vs lib64 ] WH> If there is no opposition, what would it take for us to do this? Please do not break the amd64 status quo; lib -> lib64 is the correct thing to do for both existin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing no-herd?

2011-09-11 Thread Mark Loeser
Michał Górny said: > On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:54:06 +0200 > Michał Górny wrote: > > > On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:22:16 +0300 > > Markos Chandras wrote: > > > > > On 10/09/2011 11:15 πμ, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > > For example, in IRC, willikins tries to look up the members of > > > > "no-herd" when

Re: [gentoo-dev] fhs and multilib question

2011-09-11 Thread William Hubbs
Hi Alexey, On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 08:29:34PM +0300, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: > Hi all, > > There is a draft of fhs-3.0[1] > > Also i think that lib should be symlink to lib64 on 64bit systems its > at least > will be consistent I'm not sure how it makes things consistent, but if fhs 3 allows it

Re: [gentoo-dev] fhs and multilib question

2011-09-11 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
Hi all, There is a draft of fhs-3.0[1] Also i think that lib should be symlink to lib64 on 64bit systems its at least will be consistent My 0.02 $CURRENCY. [1] http://dev.linuxfoundation.org/~licquia/fhs-3.0-drafts/fhs.html On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 11:50:28 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: Hi all,

Re: [gentoo-dev] fhs and multilib question

2011-09-11 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 11:50:28 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been dealing with a bug in openrc which prompted me to look at > our directory structure for libraries on 64 bit systems. The bug will > be referenced below[1]. The problem in the bug isn't the location of > libraries,

[gentoo-dev] fhs and multilib question

2011-09-11 Thread William Hubbs
Hi all, I have been dealing with a bug in openrc which prompted me to look at our directory structure for libraries on 64 bit systems. The bug will be referenced below[1]. The problem in the bug isn't the location of libraries, but the fact that there is a mount point stored under the library dire

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing no-herd?

2011-09-11 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:54:06 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:22:16 +0300 > Markos Chandras wrote: > > > On 10/09/2011 11:15 πμ, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > For example, in IRC, willikins tries to look up the members of > > > "no-herd" when you do !meta -v because the bot lacks