[gentoo-user] Re: Howto share Linux swap partition with Windows XP

2009-01-24 Thread ABCD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Grant Edwards wrote: > One implication of that is that the filesystem is then not > allowed to move blocks around if they are part of an "active" > swap file? Not that I'm aware of filesystems that shuffle > blocks around while they're part of an open

[gentoo-user] Re: Howto share Linux swap partition with Windows XP

2009-01-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-01-24, Stroller wrote: > > 3. Does creating the swapfile on a journaled filesystem (e.g. > > ext3 or reiser) incur a significant performance hit? > > None at all. The kernel generates a map of swap offset -> disk > blocks at swapon time and from then on uses that map to pe

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Howto share Linux swap partition with Windows XP

2009-01-24 Thread Stroller
On 24 Jan 2009, at 17:22, Grant Edwards wrote: I still can't believe that Windows does it's swapping using a normal filesystem -- and by default it's the same filesystem used for system and application files. It seems like the filesystem code would end up being a serious bottleneck. > 3. D

[gentoo-user] Re: Howto share Linux swap partition with Windows XP

2009-01-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-01-24, ABCD wrote: > There actually is a good reason (oddly enough) for Windows > using a file on the filesystem for its swap space. Because it > is a simple file on disk, if Windows realizes that the swap > file is almost full, it can expand your swap without having to > do things like

[gentoo-user] Re: Howto share Linux swap partition with Windows XP

2009-01-24 Thread ABCD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Grant Edwards wrote: > I still can't believe that Windows does it's swapping using a > normal filesystem -- and by default it's the same filesystem > used for system and application files. It seems like the > filesystem code would end up being a serio

[gentoo-user] Re: Howto share Linux swap partition with Windows XP

2009-01-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-01-24, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 24 January 2009 15:35:32 Grant Edwards wrote: > >> I didn't have a spare primary parition to put the swap file >> on. I had a bunch of spare extended partitions but all the >> docs say you can't put the XP swap file on en extended >> paritition..

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Howto share Linux swap partition with Windows XP

2009-01-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 24 January 2009 15:35:32 Grant Edwards wrote: > I didn't have a spare primary parition to put the swap file on. I had a > bunch of spare extended partitions but all the docs say you can't put the > XP swap file on en extended paritition... Ah, I didn't know that. In Win98, I think it

[gentoo-user] Re: Howto share Linux swap partition with Windows XP

2009-01-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-01-24, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 23 January 2009 14:58:32 Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Mainly because I use ntfsclone to keep a bunch of backup copies of the >> NTFS partition, and having a 2GB swap file in every backup copy starts to >> eat up a lot of disk space. > > In the days wh

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Howto share Linux swap partition with Windows XP

2009-01-24 Thread Stroller
On 23 Jan 2009, at 21:10, Paul Hartman wrote: ... From memory it's just to delete it, which is perfect. It would take too long to zero it out - I don't think that's the purpose. ... After further googling, it appears it *does* fill the pagefile.sys with zeros, and adds a significant delay

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Howto share Linux swap partition with Windows XP

2009-01-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 23 January 2009 14:58:32 Grant Edwards wrote: > Mainly because I use ntfsclone to keep a bunch of backup copies of the > NTFS partition, and having a 2GB swap file in every backup copy starts to > eat up a lot of disk space. In the days when I ran Windows I used to have at least one pa

[gentoo-user] Re: Howto share Linux swap partition with Windows XP

2009-01-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-01-23, Stroller wrote: > > On 23 Jan 2009, at 17:09, Paul Hartman wrote: >> ... >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314834 >> >> There is a registry setting in Windows to "clear" the pagefile.sys at >> shutdown. What does "clear" mean? To overwrite with 0? To delete? I >> don't know. > > F

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Howto share Linux swap partition with Windows XP

2009-01-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Stroller wrote: > > On 23 Jan 2009, at 17:09, Paul Hartman wrote: >> >> ... >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314834 >> >> There is a registry setting in Windows to "clear" the pagefile.sys at >> shutdown. What does "clear" mean? To overwrite with 0? To delete? I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Howto share Linux swap partition with Windows XP

2009-01-23 Thread Stroller
On 23 Jan 2009, at 17:09, Paul Hartman wrote: ... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314834 There is a registry setting in Windows to "clear" the pagefile.sys at shutdown. What does "clear" mean? To overwrite with 0? To delete? I don't know. From memory it's just to delete it, which is perfect.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Howto share Linux swap partition with Windows XP

2009-01-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Stroller wrote: > > On 23 Jan 2009, at 14:58, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2009-01-23, Stroller wrote: >>> >>> On 23 Jan 2009, at 05:16, Grant Edwards wrote: ... I found a very slick solution that lets Windows XP use a Linux swap partition for swap

[gentoo-user] Re: Howto share Linux swap partition with Windows XP

2009-01-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-01-23, Stroller wrote: > On 23 Jan 2009, at 14:58, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2009-01-23, Stroller wrote: >>> On 23 Jan 2009, at 05:16, Grant Edwards wrote: ... I found a very slick solution that lets Windows XP use a Linux swap partition for swap/paging/vm/whatever-MS-calls-it:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Howto share Linux swap partition with Windows XP

2009-01-23 Thread Stroller
On 23 Jan 2009, at 14:58, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2009-01-23, Stroller wrote: On 23 Jan 2009, at 05:16, Grant Edwards wrote: ... I found a very slick solution that lets Windows XP use a Linux swap partition for swap/paging/vm/whatever-MS-calls-it: http://db.bme.hu/~surprof/SwapFs-i/ That

[gentoo-user] Re: Howto share Linux swap partition with Windows XP

2009-01-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-01-23, Stroller wrote: > > On 23 Jan 2009, at 05:16, Grant Edwards wrote: >> ... I found a very slick solution that lets Windows XP use >> a Linux swap partition for swap/paging/vm/whatever-MS-calls-it: >> >> http://db.bme.hu/~surprof/SwapFs-i/ > > That looks a really cool & useful idea.