Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 5:00 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 01/11/2013 03:04:01 PM, walt wrote: >> >> This seems to me like very happy news indeed, but I'm interested in >> contrary >> opinions. There's a recent thread discussing how udev-197 breaks lvm2, >> but >> that's a trivial fix once you

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-12 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 01/11/2013 03:04:01 PM, walt wrote: This seems to me like very happy news indeed, but I'm interested in contrary opinions. There's a recent thread discussing how udev-197 breaks lvm2, but that's a trivial fix once you know about it. The problem is caused because many apps including lvm2

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 05:33:30PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > > The systemd defenders are using "separate /usr" as a "wookie defense" > in an attempt to divert attention form the main issue. Separate /usr > is actually a secondary issue. The main issue is whether or not we get > systemd ramme

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:42:37AM -0600, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote > >> No, because the problem has never been in udev (nor systemd, for that >> matter). It fixes how *Gentoo* packages udev; probably the devs read >> the following comment fr

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 06:04:01AM -0800, walt wrote: > This seems to me like very happy news indeed, but I'm interested in contrary > opinions. There's a recent thread discussing how udev-197 breaks lvm2, but > that's a trivial fix once you know about it. > > The problem is caused because many a

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:42:37AM -0600, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote > No, because the problem has never been in udev (nor systemd, for that > matter). It fixes how *Gentoo* packages udev; probably the devs read > the following comment from Lennart (note it was written almost a month > ago): > >

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Sascha Cunz wrote: >>> [...] >>> But it fixes how udev it's packaged in Gentoo, which is very good news. I haven't upgraded, sin

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Sascha Cunz wrote: >> [...] >> >>> But it fixes how udev it's packaged in Gentoo, which is very good >>> news. I haven't upgraded, since I need systemd-197 also (which wasn't >>> yet in the tree yesterd

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Sascha Cunz wrote: > [...] > >> But it fixes how udev it's packaged in Gentoo, which is very good >> news. I haven't upgraded, since I need systemd-197 also (which wasn't >> yet in the tree yesterday), and I don't use LVM, but I'm wondering if >> the LVM problem ha

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Sascha Cunz
[...] > But it fixes how udev it's packaged in Gentoo, which is very good > news. I haven't upgraded, since I need systemd-197 also (which wasn't > yet in the tree yesterday), and I don't use LVM, but I'm wondering if > the LVM problem happens when you use an initramfs. I'm guessing it > doesn't,

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 8:04 AM, walt wrote: > This seems to me like very happy news indeed, but I'm interested in contrary > opinions. There's a recent thread discussing how udev-197 breaks lvm2, but > that's a trivial fix once you know about it. > > The problem is caused because many apps inclu

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread Douglas J Hunley
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:04 AM, walt wrote: > This seems to me like very happy news indeed, but I'm interested in contrary > opinions. There's a recent thread discussing how udev-197 breaks lvm2, but > that's a trivial fix once you know about it. > > The problem is caused because many apps inclu

[gentoo-user] udev-197 moves from /usr/lib to /lib

2013-01-11 Thread walt
This seems to me like very happy news indeed, but I'm interested in contrary opinions. There's a recent thread discussing how udev-197 breaks lvm2, but that's a trivial fix once you know about it. The problem is caused because many apps including lvm2 install their udev config scripts in /usr/lib